Page mover

User:Nihonjoe

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I often move pages when globally renaming editors and when working on articles. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:21, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Automated comment This user has had this permission revoked in the past 180 days ([1]). — MusikBot ^talk 17:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Only because it was part of the admin package. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:32, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Global renaming overrides page mover anyway, the right isn't required for that. Black Kite (talk) 23:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done per Black Kite. You already have this right. -Fastily 03:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Black Kite, I seem to recall (and pppery can I believe back me up on this) that it is generally frowned upon to use Global Renamer rights on enWiki for generic page moving; I genuinely cannot remember the user but there was a GR a couple of years back who had to get PGM because of this. That being said, I just checked the last two years of move logs and see nothing that indicates article-space moves that would require PGM, so the GR tools are likely sufficient here for user-renaming-related moves. Primefac (talk) 12:24, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you've conflated Global Rename and Global Rollback here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:23, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're absolutely correct, thanks. Primefac (talk) 18:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Xkalponik

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I'm an Articles for Creation reviewer and I need this right to make things easier. One of my recent submission reviews needed a move without redirect, but I couldn't as I didn't have that right yet. There have been many such incidents and will be in the future. I wish to be granted this right and I believe I meet the requirements now (was declined previously). Thank you. X (talk) 19:21, 15 April 2024 (UTC) X (talk) 19:21, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Automated comment This user has had 1 request for page mover declined in the past 90 days ([2]). — MusikBot ^talk 19:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done, as I am not seeing a regular need for this right. One RM participation and no RM/TR requests, and a single need to delete a redirect (which upon further review was not even necessary) does not indicate a habit. Primefac (talk) 11:35, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:DaniloDaysOfOurLives

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I am requesting this right for the following reasons:

1. ) To perform non-controversial page moves
2. ) To undo incorrect/non-discussed controversial page moves
3. ) To help move discussed moves
4. ) To be able to move my sandboxes into articles when they are ready (as some are currently redirects)
5. ) To assist with moving categories
6. ) To help others with moving pages

I have participated in various requested moves and I have performed some myself in order to acquire to naming conventions (both within pages in the main space and from my sandboxes to the main space), and I have also started a few move discussions too. I know about Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, including naming conventions, and I often take part in AFD and other discussions, and I also have created articles and categories. I am happy to answer any questions or do a trial run. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 13:38, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now, as I do not really see a large need for this permission. You have barely a dozen article-space moves in the last two years, and while you do have a reasonable amount of RM participation I don't see much in the way of closing those moves (which you do not need this perm for doing). In other words, you say you want to continue doing a half-dozen different things, but I don't really see any evidence of you doing them now. Primefac (talk) 11:42, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Primefac: Regarding #5 and #2, these are not possible without the permission - there have been many examples of me wanting to move pages and categories to meet the naming conventions but I have been unable to as I do not have the permission. The same is also true for the others - for example, yesterday I wanted to move John McBain (character) to John McBain (One Life to Live) to meet the correct naming conventions, but I am unable to do so as a redirect for the latter already exists. Regarding #4, there is a lot standing in the way of me moving multiple pages from sandboxes to the main space if the redirects already exist. Yes, it is possible to ask admins to delete the redirects or move the pages, but this often takes a while and adds more work to me and the admins and that is partially why I was requesting it. Regarding closing the moves, I have actually never had the chance to as they have nearly always been closed by other editors beforehand (and also, I have been told by other editors that it is discouraged to close moves which you comment on). Had I had the permission, the amount of articles I would have moved in the past 2 years would be much higher (both my own articles and others, including undoing undiscussed/controversial moves). Hence, that is why I suggested a trial run in order to illustrate my need for the permission and how I would do it correctly. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 15:50, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to go point-by-point through your arguments, but generally speaking we don't grant this permission because someone might find it useful, we grant it because they have demonstrated that they have been going through the proper (non-perm'd) channels and it's getting to be tiresome for them. So far you have said that it would be nice to be able to do all of these things, but as of right now you do not appear to be doing all of these things.

As a minor note about "moving sandboxes" - if there's a redirect, just edit the page and overwrite it. Unless there were multiple editors editing your sandbox, there is no reason to move the entire page. Primefac (talk) 16:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]