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- I'm glad to see the coverage of the sidebar update. For anyone just coming across the conversation now, some of the proposals look to me to be ready to close, with SNOW in some cases. If you are uninvolved and feel confident assessing consensus, please consider making some closes rather than just adding on to the pile. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 22:01, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
- There's also a discussion at VP Proposals on whether to grant
editcontentmodelto template editors and mass message senders. — Wug·a·po·des 01:12, 27 April 2020 (UTC)- Thanks for pointing this out! Sometimes things slip through the cracks so it’s good that other people are following these discussions closely as well. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 15:33, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Why do designers refuse to understand that white space is wasted space which could have been filled with useful information? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:43, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- Because that is an incorrect opinion not borne out by decades of usability research or other sciences. The fact is that a measure of 72 characters is best and healthiest for the eyes. White space allows for users to quickly distinguish various elements in a screen, reducing eye strain and recognition fatigue. A better question is "why do Wikipedians refuse to understand that their personal use case or preference is not the only one that should be, and that there are many users with different needs?--Jorm (talk) 19:27, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- That comment would have been better without that last sentence. --Yair rand (talk) 19:42, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- Personally, I’d like to see page width capped at 1280px (or maybe less). Reading isn’t too bad on my 1280×800 laptop screen but I’ve read WP on desktops and it’s much more annoying. Probably wouldn’t be too hard to code. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 18:46, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Jorm, Yair rand, and Pythoncoder: there's certainly a lot more usability work to be done on Wikipedia. Perhaps once the sidebar redesign concludes, we can try to reinvigorate WP:WikiProject Usability and take on other tasks. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 19:22, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- I'm over being shit on by the community for trying to improve Wikipedia's usability. But ya'll have fun.--Jorm (talk) 19:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Jorm, Yair rand, and Pythoncoder: there's certainly a lot more usability work to be done on Wikipedia. Perhaps once the sidebar redesign concludes, we can try to reinvigorate WP:WikiProject Usability and take on other tasks. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 19:22, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Because that is an incorrect opinion not borne out by decades of usability research or other sciences. The fact is that a measure of 72 characters is best and healthiest for the eyes. White space allows for users to quickly distinguish various elements in a screen, reducing eye strain and recognition fatigue. A better question is "why do Wikipedians refuse to understand that their personal use case or preference is not the only one that should be, and that there are many users with different needs?--Jorm (talk) 19:27, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
- "April Fools' Day: have we gone too far with the pranks?" lol, literally EVERY april fools since I joined. :D —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)