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[edit]- Venezuela men's junior national softball team (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:NTEAM. The only sources are mere listings/summaries of game results and standings, while a WP:BEFORE didn't reveal anything better. Let'srun (talk) 22:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Agree with nominator. No available sources to prove WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG or WP:NTEAM. Prof.PMarini (talk) 00:37, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ciesse Piumini (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Promotion. Fails WP:NCORP. CresiaBilli (talk) 12:06, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep WP:AFDNOTCLEANUP. There are at least two reliable, independent sources showing significant coverage of the subject in the article: [1][2]. This is enough to satisfy WP:NCORP without even needing an additional WP:BEFORE search. CresiaBilli can you maybe better motivate your nomination? Broc (talk) 12:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Broc. The references are present to establish passage of NCORP and any concerns regarding promotional content can be addressed via editing. Frank Anchor 15:18, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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- PTV Sports (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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References do not show how this is notable. Plenty of unreliable sources and NEWSORGINDIA but nothing in-depth. Recommend a redirect to parent Pakistan Television Corporation. While I did not do so prior to the AfD, programming also needs to be removed per WP:NOTTVGUIDE. It appears that the notability of the page is attempted to be heightened by the mentions of the programs it shows. CNMall41 (talk) 23:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: I will reserve a !vote for now but for those who may not be aware, PTV Sports is country's state-owned channel dedicated to sports, much like DD Sports in India. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- When searching for references, make sure to weed out those that apply to PTV Sports (TV program) as well. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- PTV Sports (TV program) is a Filipino TV program, so obviously editors searching in Pakistani sources won't encounter such references. 2A00:F29:248:C1E5:69B9:937C:A897:D420 (talk) 16:36, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- When searching for references, make sure to weed out those that apply to PTV Sports (TV program) as well. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Keep I have added more RS.--Ameen Akbar (talk) 21:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- These "reliable sources" seem to fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Can you point out the specific ones that show notability?--CNMall41 (talk) 05:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- There are many news articles show controversy or negitivity about channel. So, WP:NEWSORGINDIA may not apply here. This may apply when all are praising. Ameen Akbar (talk) 12:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- That is not how that works. NEWSORGINDIA has to do with the context of the article (who wrote it, is it churnalism, etc.), not whether it is positive or negative. --CNMall41 (talk) 07:18, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- There are many news articles show controversy or negitivity about channel. So, WP:NEWSORGINDIA may not apply here. This may apply when all are praising. Ameen Akbar (talk) 12:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- These "reliable sources" seem to fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Can you point out the specific ones that show notability?--CNMall41 (talk) 05:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep NEWSORGINDIA cannot possibly apply to this article (and I'm surprised the nom hasn't received blowback for even mentioning that country's name in this nom for a Pakistani subject and network); it has enough sources within to easily pass WP:N and is by default Pakistan's main sports channel. Cull back the programming list to only cricket and soccer as a simple list and source it; that's the only true issue with this article. Nate • (chatter) 00:46, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Your comment is a little uncivil but I understand your concern as it has been raised several times in the past. NEWSORGINDIA has been applied to the entire subcontinent in both articles and AfD discussions. --CNMall41 (talk) 00:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with Nate. The RfC consensus ([3]) was just about Indian mainstream media, and there was no discussion that we can apply this to whole Indian subcontinent countries (i.e., Bangladesh, Bhutan, the Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka). As far as I can see, only CNMall41 is trying to extend that consensus to whole South Asia as if they are part of India or these countries are in some sort of union like EU, which is not the case. I'd recommend seeking a similar consensus about Pakistani sources with evidence on WP:RSN first and then adding similar wording as a note for our reference. This is how this should work. 94.201.21.216 (talk) 16:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, you seem not to be familiar with the discussions. In fact, it was suggested to change the name as having "India" in the NEWSORGINDIA heading makes it seem like it is singling out a specific country and/or nationality which I don't think is proper. You are more than welcome to start a discussion but as stated, this has been applied in many AfD discussions. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:38, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with Nate. The RfC consensus ([3]) was just about Indian mainstream media, and there was no discussion that we can apply this to whole Indian subcontinent countries (i.e., Bangladesh, Bhutan, the Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka). As far as I can see, only CNMall41 is trying to extend that consensus to whole South Asia as if they are part of India or these countries are in some sort of union like EU, which is not the case. I'd recommend seeking a similar consensus about Pakistani sources with evidence on WP:RSN first and then adding similar wording as a note for our reference. This is how this should work. 94.201.21.216 (talk) 16:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Your comment is a little uncivil but I understand your concern as it has been raised several times in the past. NEWSORGINDIA has been applied to the entire subcontinent in both articles and AfD discussions. --CNMall41 (talk) 00:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Nate and WP:HEY. It is literally a state-owned monopoly and the only broadcaster of international events in Pakistan (Dawn covered it in detail). It has been operational since the 1970s as a sports division of PTV, similar to BBC Sports, which is a division of BBC. There is a large amount of offline and online coverage about the topic and some of them have been added already to the article. Meets WP:GNG. 2A00:F29:249:8243:E4E0:CA6C:D0E7:378B (talk) 16:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Amazing coincidence. Back to back IP addresses commenting. But, here we are. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:38, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Other than Dawn, can you link to more in-depth coverage?--CNMall41 (talk) 16:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Greater Ozarks Conference (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG. The few sources which mention the subject do not constitute significant coverage of it. Gödel2200 (talk) 02:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Per WP:AVOIDCOI, making mention that I created the article. Additional information and sources added. Meets GNG's description of significant coverage, "... addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material." Even when the article had one source, it sufficiently addressed the topic directly and in detail. Regardless, I have added more information to the article, as well as additional citations from additional secondary sources - all of which meet GNG's definition of significant coverage. I have also added an external link, on the article, to the press release report released by the founding schools when it was established - one of the cited sources also links to it. GuyBanks (talk) 03:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Unless the decision is made to delete all the other articles on individual Missouri high school conferences:
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- Unless the decision is made to delete all the other articles on individual Missouri high school conferences:
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- Comment: Local coverage, such as what has been added here thus far, is usually not permitted for organizations per WP:AUD. Let'srun (talk) 18:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Joe Phillips (English cricketer, born 2003) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject person played only 1 List-A and 2 First class match. Does WP:GNG surpasses WP:NCRICK? Twinkle1990 (talk) 15:42, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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- @Twinkle1990: - can I just point out NSPORT states that "Failing to meet the criteria in this guideline means that notability will need to be established in other ways (for example, the general notability guideline...) - so all NSPORT is saying that people who meet those criteria are considered notable, but not meeting those criteria doesn't automatically make them non-notable. Mdann52 (talk) 20:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - meets GNG. Mdann52 (talk) 20:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't appear on the cricket delsort - tryingto add that again first Blue Square Thing (talk) 05:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- At worst this is an obvious redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players where his name needs to be added. A note should also be added, as has been done for others. Beyond that I have no particular view here - there are some sources, but not so many. I suspect he is likely to be covered in others as well fwiw Blue Square Thing (talk) 05:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players. He does not meet GNG - this is the one qualifying source. Gloscricket is obviously not independent coverage. -- asilvering (talk) 18:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, but he may be notable in the future, i.e. WP:NOTNOW. SWinxy (talk) 01:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @SWinxy, in this case, wouldn't a redirect be more appropriate? That way, if he becomes notable in the future, someone won't have to start the article from scratch. -- asilvering (talk) 18:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, borderline decision but given the rhythms and vagaries of the English county cricket season we are approaching the part where younger players are used to a greater extent, precisely the time this page will be useful to people who follow the game to refer to. Hildreth Gazzard (talk) 06:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players. References are currently insufficient for GNG. Frank Anchor 18:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Passes WP:NCRIC as a cricketer who has played at the highest domestic level. I would add [4] and maybe [5] to the references. Tau Corvi (talk) 14:18, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Alex Guerrero (lineman) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. - Although subject may meet WP:NGRIDIRON as stated in the last AfD (2011), this does not establish sufficient notability. C679 06:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- There is a good deal of SIGCOV. e.g., [6], feature pt 1/ feature pt 2. Cbl62 (talk) 16:41, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I added an initial piece of WP:SIGCOV. Cbl62 (talk) 19:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The Idaho Statesman feature now in the article is certainly WP:SIGCOV, combined with sources such as [[7]] I'd say there is enough to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 13:56, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Let'srun: Did you mean to mention a second source, other than The Idaho Statesman? C679 11:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- I meant to add [[8]] in addition to the other Idaho Statesman source. Let'srun (talk) 14:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ainer Cleve (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC #5 (Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources.")
I created the article in 2020 when the old WP:NGRIDIRON presumed notability for NFL players -- we have database sources showing that Cleve appeared in 19 NFL games as a back and end from 1921-1924. When the presumption was reversed, User:Hey man im josh correctly tagged the article due to the need for additional sources. I thought that someone who appeared in 19 NFL games would have WP:SIGCOV, but my follow-up searches in 2022 didn't find any. I searched again today but didn't find anything rising to the level of SIGCOV. (FWIW: I did find some passing references where his given name was listed as "Ainar" [9] and others as "Einar" [10] [11].)
Despite my efforts, the article still does not comply with our guidelines, so it's time for me to throw in the towel -- unless someone can dig up SIGCOV that I've been unable to find. Cbl62 (talk) 00:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Newspapers.com is unavailable and will continue to be unavailable for the vast majority of users (including me) for an unknown amount of time. Could we at the very least draftify this? I can't even search for sources. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- No objection to that. Cbl62 (talk) 14:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify per nom and Beanie’s comments above. Beanie and Cbl62 both have a reputation of working very hard to find coverage of lesser-known topics if it’s available, so if either (or both) of them are interested, this is a very reasonable ATD. Worst case is there is no coverage available when newspapers.com is back online and the draft gets abandoned/deleted. Frank Anchor 02:20, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify: Finding sources about Ainer Cleve that meet WP:SPORTBASIC and WP:GNG is proving difficult. This approach would allow more time for research to prove that Cleve is notable (which is better than removing the content from the platform).--AstridMitch (talk) 06:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify: Searching newspapers.com and the LOC, I'm not finding the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. The only sources in the article are stats databases, and all I could find after trying multiple searches with different spellings was passing mentions such as [[12]] and [[13]]. Draftify as a WP:ATD to allow for interested editors to find more time to find significant coverage. Let'srun (talk) 14:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- (Discuss) – Ray Brown (Negro leagues pitcher) → Ray Brown (baseball) – Per WP:INCDAB a move discussion is necessary. INCDAB states:
In individual cases consensus may determine that a parenthetically disambiguated title that is still ambiguous has a primary topic, but the threshold for identifying a primary topic for such titles is higher than for a title without parenthetical disambiguation. As with any other term with a primary topic, it should either be the title of the article for that topic or redirect to it.
There are 2 Ray Brown baseball players, both pitchers: this one, a Hall of Fame Negro league pitcher; and Ray Brown (National League pitcher) who pitched 1 game for the Cubs in 1909. The pageviews (Negro league pitcher & Natinal League pitcher) over the last year are 3428:170, or ~20:1, which is about what it takes according to List of reported partially disambiguated article titles and their characteristics. I am arguing this Ray Brown is the primary baseball player topic (under WP:PT1) becauseit is highly likely [...] to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term
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[edit]- The Coliseum (West Georgia) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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- Delete: The page is a very short stub. While it does have a full table, there is nowhere near enough information on the page due to the lack of history and, presumably, lack of coverage on the construction and events at the venue. I actually considered constructing a Wikipedia article for The Coliseum back in November 2023, but I chose Halenbeck Hall instead due to the former's lack of resources. Centennial Center (Georgia College & State) would have certainly been a better choice for making a Wikipedia article. Wjenkins96 (talk)
- Comment This page was created without the {{afd2}} tag and never transcluded to a daily log. Fixed now—I am neutral at this time. @Wjenkins96: For future nominations, please follow the instructions at WP:AFDHOWTO. Thanks. --Finngall talk 06:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep for now per WP:DONOTDEMOLISH. Nominator does not cite any policies, and it is a notable venue given its status as a Division I arena and as the region's premier concert and special events venue. This is the Wolves' first season in Division I; if it was deleted, it would be the only Division I arena not to have its own article. Let's leave it up for a bit to give other editors a chance to improve it and fix what's lacking. Tom Danson (talk) 17:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ilya Syrovatko (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet verifiability guidelines per WP:SPORTSPERSON. 333fortheain (talk) 04:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment Does not fail WP:V thanks to various databases, but an article cannot be built on databases only. Geschichte (talk) 12:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The article needs to add more information and sources. Passes WP:SIGCOV, it’s easy to find reliable secondary sources in Russian that talk about his career and personal life [14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22] Tau Corvi (talk) 15:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete article lacks in sources and in any information. The sources i found, including the ones presented by @Tau Corvi (Thank you for providing those) are, in my opinion, not enough to prove notability as per WP:SPORTCRIT - those are just narration of transfers, some tabloid coverage and game results. Vorann Gencov (talk) 15:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Lacks notability and reliable sources, the article does not meet Wikipedia's standards and therefore should be deleted. Yakov-kobi (talk) 13:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Ravindra Lakmal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Although subject may be covered by WP:NCRICKET (Additionally, cricketers who have played at the highest domestic level [...] may have sufficient coverage about them to justify an article, but it should not be assumed to exist without further proof), with a single appearance for a club side more than 20 years ago, there is no indication the subject has received significant coverage to pass the general notability guideline. C679 10:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- I am also nominating the following related page for the same reason:
- Hewage Jayaweera (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) C679 10:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - either one article is the problem or thousands. And if we isolate individual articles - in both English and non-English speaking countries - this does nothing to solve the problem we've landed ourselves in. Bobo. 17:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I haven't found any WP:SIGCOV confirmation. Tau Corvi (talk) 15:12, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Archie Vaughan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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So what exactly makes this guy notable? Being the son of Michael Vaughan, is all I can tell. He hasn't played cricket at a senior level and hasn't done anything of note in cricket to warrant inclusion. No amount of WP:ROUTINE refbombs can hide that he is a WP:GNG fail. AA (talk) 17:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Not notable, fails WP:GNG. Delete. Go4thProsper (talk) 19:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I don’t understand whether he has already played for Somerset and the England U19 to pass WP:NCRIC, but signing a contract with the club and being called up to the U19 team is being covered in the media, which indicates the passage WP:SIGCOV. I will list several secondary sources, you can easily find more [23][24][25] Tau Corvi (talk) 14:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- But why is that notable? Plenty of people get signed by major sports teams and never go onto do anything. Is the bar really set this low? Again, if his father wasn't a famous cricketer, he would not get any coverage. AA (talk) 22:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Article was moved to mainspace via Afc. Subject has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Hildreth gazzard (talk) 00:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)- Keep Widespread coverage in established media including BBC, Sky Sports, The Times, The Daily Telegraph The Independent, ESPNCricinfo etc. Yes the articles often mention his father in the headline or the article themselves but that is going to be the case his entire life unless he manages to totally surpass what his father achieved which is a high bar to set. The articles themselves are about him, not his father, and as such he easily passes the coverage test. Shrug02 (talk) 20:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Martin Liška (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to Slovakia at the 2004 Summer Olympics as ATD because I could not find any in-depth coverage of this athlete to meet WP:GNG.
This AfD might be exactly the same issue as with Peter Kondrát I nominated back in January under my old username (CuteDolphin712). Since Martin Liška was born in Brno, Czech Republic, but represents Slovakia, I don't know which language of source is primary.
- The only decent site I found in Slovak language is SME but it looks nowhere near significant.
- Oddly enough, Czech media IDNES (2016, 2018, 2022) and Czech Television have articles of a horseback rider of the same name. However, the first source by IDNES tells said jockey turned 39 thus clearly not the same men as this cyclist. Without evidence of cyclist Liška being a horse jockey in his hometown, this case fails WP:V.
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[edit]- Rudy Orea (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Only one source, which is partly a primary source, about him "going back" to amateur football. Only made one cup appearance for Bordeaux as a regular B team player. Paul Vaurie (talk) 11:52, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Vladimír Kinier (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to 1990 FIFA World Cup squads#Czechoslovakia because I could not find any in-depth coverage of this former men's footballer to meet WP:GNG. I've checked Wikipedia articles in other languages, but most of them only provide database sources. Corresponding article on Slovak Wikipedia, which may help copy over English article, is slightly longer and listed the clubs he has/had played for... but SKwiki likewise does not provide any decent coverage. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 09:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. The WP:BEFORE on this AFD looks quite pitiful. The top Google hit is one example of the FIFA World Cup player meeting WP:GNG and WP:SUSTAINED. Geschichte (talk) 10:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Esmaeil Gholizadeh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of wp:notability under GNG or SNG (which says that these must meet GNG) Of the sources, 2 are just database listings and the other is about a game where he is mentioned. North8000 (talk) 20:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 08:36, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - the only remotely RS I can find are brief mentions of him in reports of matches. It sounds like he might become notable as his career progresses, but right now is TOOSOON. StartGrammarTime (talk) 12:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Helmut Michel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't seem to have received significant coverage. All I could find on this player was a 1961 Chicago Tribune newspaper article that he was playing in goal for an amateur team participating in the National Amateur Cup, which is barely a passing mention. Another site suggests a date of birth for this player, but that's all I could find, other than a Czech namesake who ran for political office in 1989. C679 13:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of United States men's international soccer players as possible search term. GiantSnowman 17:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Mostafa Makhlouf (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No indication the subject meets the general notability guideline. Only source indicates he is the fifth-choice goalkeeper for his club and he has not played at senior level. C679 11:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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- He was in the first team in the past 2 years
- And entered the African list for Al Ahly this year so he must have a Wikipedia page Mohamedmokhtar22 (talk) 11:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or Draft According to soccerway he hasn't played any games. So those trophies? Are they really earned? If the article was improved with better sourcing I might send to draft, in it's current state I would delete. Also @ Mohamedmokhtar22 Why do you have two accounts? Govvy (talk) 13:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Not enough coverage for this individual. All I can find [26], a few brief words about him. Oaktree b (talk) 16:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- First, I have only One account but I changed the username.
- Second, In African Championships if he entered the saquad in any match the whole championship it will be earnd for him Mohamedmokhtar22 (talk) 17:04, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 17:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.yallakora.com/egyptian-league/2795/news/447474/%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%AA%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%87-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B3-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%87%D9%84%D9%8A-%D9%85-%D9%86-%D9%87%D9%88-%D9%85%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%88%D9%81-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B0%D9%8A-%D8%B8%D9%87%D8%B1-%D8%A8%D8%B3%D8%A8%D8%A8-%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B3-
- This link from Yallakora the famous site about Mostafa Makhlouf Mohamedmokhtar22 (talk) 22:08, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Zahir Vasquez (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am unable to find enough coverage of this American soccer player to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 20:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- • Delete. I didn't find any articles about him in RS, only statistics and news on the website of the club for which he plays. Tau Corvi (talk) 14:55, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keiichi Misawa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. Previously deleted by PROD. C679 03:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment A "small" HTML tag was left unclosed. This has been fixed. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Not enough accomplishments or sources for an encyclopedic article. Geschichte (talk) 07:57, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Eric Iloski (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am unable to find enough independent coverage of this American soccer player to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 02:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:25, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. He hasn't played at the highest level and doesn't pass WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 15:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Chris Driver (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. 2 sources provided are primary. Found nothing searching ["Chris Driver" mauritius -wikipedia] LibStar (talk) 01:18, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I haven't found RS that could confirm his notability. Tau Corvi (talk) 16:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- 2006 Categoría Primera A season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I couldn't find sources to add confirming the information and showing it meets WP:N. Boleyn (talk) 15:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep presumably the RSSSF archives would be a source for the statistical data, they are also on ESPN [27]. Generally Wikipedia has article on top-flight football leagues of countries of the size (and football-enthusiasm) of Colombia. There is no non-statistical sourcing; I expect there is some in Spanish but without finding some there is a clear argument for deletion here. Walsh90210 (talk) 15:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep It's absolutely notable as a top flight football league. Spanish Wikipedia has sources, but no direct link because it breaks the seasons up into Apertura and Clausura, which contains links to sources: [28] [29] But there's a 100% chance this is notable: I was able to find [30] very quickly, and ESPN Deportes has all of the statistics on their website as well. SportingFlyer T·C 17:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, but change the list of games to the home-away game table which is standard in all league articles today. Geschichte (talk) 07:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per sources/arguments above which show notability. GiantSnowman 20:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – top level Colombian football championship, and with sufficient sources in Spanish (due to the date of 2006, both online and offline sources are assumed) to be maintained. Svartner (talk) 19:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Kodjo Aziangbe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Contested PROD; subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. Sources are limited to databases and routine match coverage. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. Much of the sourcing would be in Arabic, Ukrainian and Japanese. Not exactly easy for an English speaker to search Geschichte (talk) 07:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. GiantSnowman 20:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- I would accept draftify as an AtD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify – Per above. Svartner (talk) 19:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- 2015–16 Harburger TB season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Clear failure of WP:NSEASONS. Wikipedia is not a database of amateur sports. Geschichte (talk) 14:14, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no indication of how this would meet WP:GNG and, since it's not a top-level professional season, it doesn't get a 'free pass' that might have been given if it met WP:NSEASONS. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 17:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:30, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- @GiantSnowman: might I be able ask you all to stall this discussion so I can add some sources to establish notability. MintyFresh201 (talk) 02:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- MintyFresh201: No other teams playing on the same level has had season articles written about them, ever. It would have to be an overwhelming depth of coverage, and not routine coverage from local news outlets. Geschichte (talk) 03:30, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could you clarify what you mean by that? MintyFresh201 (talk) 15:35, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- You have this week to improve the article. GiantSnowman 17:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, I appreciate your consideration. MintyFresh201 (talk) 18:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- You mean adding more sources to establish notability, correct? MintyFresh201 (talk) 19:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- You have this week to improve the article. GiantSnowman 17:25, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could you clarify what you mean by that? MintyFresh201 (talk) 15:35, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- MintyFresh201: No other teams playing on the same level has had season articles written about them, ever. It would have to be an overwhelming depth of coverage, and not routine coverage from local news outlets. Geschichte (talk) 03:30, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Too low down in the leagues and nothing of note happened in the season from that what it appears. Govvy (talk) 18:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- So what would be an appropriate level in a football league system to write individual articles on a season for a club? MintyFresh201 (talk) 18:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment judging from a quick look, the third tier of Germany or above would be an appropriate level, but a key consideration is the availability of reliable independent sources covering the subject in depth. C679 17:50, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Per nom. No notability expected for an amateur team season. Svartner (talk) 19:13, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete due to lack of significant coverage. C679 17:51, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Rudi Mahmutaj (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Mahmutaj never played in a professional league and the coverage to date isn't enough for WP:SIGCOV, in my view. Panorama 1 is just an announcement of being released, Panorama 2 is just a direct quote from Mahmutaj with no third party analysis and Sport Ekspres represents the best source on him but it still only confirms that he scored 19 goals for Luftëtari and played at under-17 level for Albania, which I would say falls just short of the depth required. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment – I was wondering... Since interview sources fail WP:GNG, do ones with third-party analysis count to demonstrate the person's notability? If so, what are some examples from websites? ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 14:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- This interview is an example of one that would count as having at least some third party analysis (of the tennis player Carlos Alcaraz). Clariniie I am aware that that's a different sport, though. Good interview sources for football look like The Guardian (Leah Williamson interview) and BBC (Aitana Bonmatí interview). Notice how the articles are written outside of a normal Q&A format and how most of them start with some background info on the interviewee first, which automatically pushes it to SIGCOV. The articles do more than just merely regurgitate the interview. If someone can find similar calibre sourcing for Mahmutaj, I will happily withdraw my support for deletion. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 17:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ervis Koçi (footballer, born 1998) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No top tier appearances, no meaningful prose and no evidence of WP:SIGCOV. The only source that I can find is Panorama, a mere squad listing. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, played some football games on a tier that was not fully professional, and no relevant sources. To the closer: remember to move Ervis Koçi (footballer, born 1984) to the non-disambiguated title afterwards. Geschichte (talk) 13:12, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Delete – Poorly-formatted article without significant coverage and major updates :( I also agree with Geschichte for the article rename once this nomination has been closed. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 14:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: not even a claim of notability. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 17:34, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Granuel Lika (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lika played only 97 mins in the Superliga and there is no evidence of WP:SIGCOV. My own searches yielded only Panorama, a passing mention, and Durrës Lajm, a squad listing. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Egli Trimi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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His professional career was extremely brief by the looks of it. My own searches didn't yield any non-database coverage, therefore WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC don't seem to be met. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedy delete, not even a credible claim to notability at this point. Geschichte (talk) 13:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Delete – Lack of major edits with only database sources listed, this article is clearly not notable. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 14:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Marlon Campbell (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails both WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC. No significant coverage of him at all. — YoungForever(talk) 23:29, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-notable footballer, who doesn’t pass WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 22:36, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I could only find some routine coverage in match reports for the Montserrat national team after he scored 2 goals in the team's first win for 17 years. [31] [32] Not enough to satisfy WP:SIGCOV. C679 10:30, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG. I made this article at a time when WP:NFOOTY was a thing. Paul Vaurie (talk) 16:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-notable semi-professional footballer, who doesn’t pass WP:SIGCOV. All I found is statistics. Tau Corvi (talk) 14:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Marek Gajdošík (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Yet another long-unsourced article of a Slovak men's footballer who seems to have a minor career. According to Soccerway, his career in higher level clubs lasted between 107 and 800 minutes. He went missing from 2015 until 2023, but came back to play for third tier club FK Beluša, then disappeared again. I can't find any better source than passing mentions and database from my searches. Article fails WP:GNG overall. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 13:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Not notable by any stretch of the imagination. Athel cb (talk) 14:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I didn't find any secondary sources. He is also not mentioned in the articles of the clubs he played for, so there is nowhere to redirect. Tau Corvi (talk) 16:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- 2019 CAFA U-16 Championship (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG, no significant coverage Mdann52 (talk) 08:40, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- 1. the initial delete nomination (lack independent sourcing):
- Link 1 by Khovar.tj National Information Agency of Tajikistan/ not related to CAFA
- Link 2 Tasnim News Agency an Iranian new agency Independent from CAFA
- Link 3 Turkmen news agency which is also Independent from CAFA
- Link 4 Sport.kg an Information Agency; Sport.kg is the only specialized portal in Kyrgyzstan
- and many more; that i will add to the article to enhance it sourcing
- 2. The tournament is organized by the Central Asian Football Association (CAFA), which oversees football in Central Asia. CAFA is a member of the AFC and, therefore, FIFA. As an international competition between member nations, the tournament holds significant notability. This is particularly relevant now, as some footballers who participated in the tournament are becoming prominent figures in Central Asian football and across Asia. The tournament shall be cited as the beginning of their international careers, further emphasizing its importance. Lunar Spectrum96 (talk) 09:31, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
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- I included more resources from other independent sources such as:
jomhornews.com, m.kun.uz, trt.net.tr, and sport.kg. Lunar Spectrum96 (talk) 10:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- I included more resources from other independent sources such as:
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 11:00, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- GiantSnowman can you please specify what's make a tournament notable enough; so i can send the sources that adresse it ? Lunar Spectrum96 (talk) 12:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Significant coverage - the sources above are WP:ROUTINE. GiantSnowman 13:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Matchday 1:
- Tajikistan v Uzbekistan at sports.uz
- Kyrgyzstan v Afghansitan at sport.kg
- Matchday 2:
- Uzbekistan v Iran at Tasnimnews.com
- Uzbekistan v Iran at Sports.uz
- Tajikistan v Kyrgyzstan at avesta.tj
- Matchday 3:
- Iran v Afghanistan at Irannewsdaily.com
- Iran v Afghanistan at farsi.alarabiya.net
- Iran v Afghanistan at avapress.com
- Kyrgyzstan v Uzbekistan at sport.kg
- Matchday 4:
- Turkmenistan v Kyrgyzstan at Turkmenportal.com
- Turkmenistan v Kyrgyzstan at sport.kg
- Turkmenistan v Kyrgyzstan at Kabar.kg
- Afghanistan v Uzbekistan at sputnik.af
- Afghanistan v Uzbekistan at dzen.ru
- Matchday 5:
- Kyrgyzstan v Iran at Tansimnews.com
- Tajikistan v Afghanistan at sputnik.af
- Iran
- All matches reports at toopball.com
- Kyrgyzstan
- Kyrgystan at for.kg
- Other tournament reports
- Champion at rus.ozodi.org
- Championship at nm.tj
- Schedule at ilna.ir
- Should I add more? The tournament's matches were covered by all the top news agencies in Central Asia.
- Also Asian Football Confederation did post all these covering the tournament
- Lunar Spectrum96 (talk) 05:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Matchday 1:
- Significant coverage - the sources above are WP:ROUTINE. GiantSnowman 13:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- GiantSnowman can you please specify what's make a tournament notable enough; so i can send the sources that adresse it ? Lunar Spectrum96 (talk) 12:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment International level competition and there are sources, however they are very young. So I am not sure at what level wikipedia should be keeping these. Govvy (talk) 10:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep
- let us remember that The Central Asian Football Association (CAFA) was only formed in 2015, and with the tournament being the 8th tournament organised, CAFA has shown significant progress in promoting and developing football in the region. Over the years, CAFA has developed its media coverage and reporting capabilities, making the tournaments more accessible and notable. While the first editions may have had limited coverage due to CAFA's emerging stage and limited experience, the organization's growth and increased attention highlight the importance of these early stages articles being there.
- Furthermore, for Central Asia, where international sports events are relatively scarce, CAFA's tournaments hold notable significance. The early editions of the tournament are crucial for understanding the development of football in the region and providing a better statistical context. As CAFA continues to grow and attract more attention, the historical records of all editions, including the first ones, will be valuable for researchers, fans, and anyone interested in the football in Central Asia.
- Therefore, despite its relatively young age, CAFA's tournaments are notable and deserving of coverage on Wikipedia, as they contribute to the broader narrative of international sports in Central Asia. Lunar Spectrum96 (talk) 19:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect must be redirect to the Central Asian Football Association.Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 21:18, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- 2014 Schalke 04 Cup (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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As a friendly tournament, the matches were of no consequence. Thus, 10 years later, we can clearly see that the tournament was not noteworthy, wasn't important in the world of football and got a corresponding lack of coverage (apart from reports of the matches). The level of detailed coverage on display (goalscorers, match kick-off times, table) is therefore not needed, with the entry failing WP:NOTINHERITED (notability not being inherited from the participating teams), WP:MILL, WP:SUSTAINED and WP:NOTSTATS among others. Geschichte (talk) 20:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep – It is self-evident that a friendly tournament will not change the course of football history, but the record of a competition that brought together four top-tier clubs in Europe does not seem impertinent to me, and the records of the matches and other relevant information are all available for verification. As there were no more editions to stabilize the competition, as occurred with the Audi Cup, I understand the nomination, but I do not see sufficient reason to eliminate the article. Svartner (talk) 08:08, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete no evidence of WP:SUSTAINED coverage
Brief bursts of news coverage may not sufficiently demonstrate notability
, and thus doesn't meet WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:23, 5 July 2024 (UTC) - Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 15:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect and part merge to 2014–15 FC Schalke 04 season, there is a bizarre notion that pre-seasons have no bering on club seasons, well they can, from injuries to key players, a club debut for another player. I don't see a need for this AfD at this level. There is a scattering effect of information and then there is no information. How in-depth to you want an article to be. It could easily be kept with good coverage. But I don't see the point here. Clearly no thought to a redirect or adding certain information to the other club season articles. Govvy (talk) 20:22, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete An insignificant one-time local tournament with no evidence of lasting notability. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 05:46, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Kristofer Karlsson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. The links provided are all primary. Could not find third party coverage of this individual. LibStar (talk) 01:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Delete: No independent sources available. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC)Keep: After Julle's additions, enough WP:SIGCOV for WP:GNG. (I wonder how many articles are deleted because of wrong language settings) — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)- Delete: Doesn’t meet WP:GNG, no reliable references, the author should consider seeking more references, a lot is written on the article but nothing to show or prove notability.Madeforall1 (talk) 14:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I've expanded the article and added references from Yle, Vestmanlands Läns Tidning, sv:Enköpings-Posten. Some of these are shorter news pieces, but a couple of them have more substance. /Julle (talk) 21:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ping Alien333 and Madeforall1 in case you want to take another look. These sources were a bit difficult to locate if one doesn't speak Swedish (and in a couple of cases required access to newspaper archive to find them). /Julle (talk) 21:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Per sources from Julle 🤾♂️ Malo95 (talk) 17:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep: Did a quick Google Translate on the snippet from the YLE source added, it seems to talk about this person. I'll assume the others are of a similar quality, we have enough for a basic article anyway. Oaktree b (talk) 00:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Julles additions AlexandraAVX (talk) 16:26, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Hayate Usui (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I have carried out WP:BEFORE on this article about a martial artist, and added two references, though one is a passing mention. I do not think Usui meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:NMMA. Tacyarg (talk) 08:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as per nom. Lekkha Moun (talk) 16:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Fails to meet WP:NMMA and I didn't find the significant independent coverage required to meet WP:GNG. Fight results and databases are not enough to show WP notability. Papaursa (talk) 02:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NMMA. Highest Rank: #60 acc. to FightMatrix [33]. Vorann Gencov (talk) 07:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- 2025 GT World Challenge Australia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete per WP:TOOSOON. Or possibly redirect to Australian GT Championship as an ATD. CycloneYoris talk! 20:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: If you got rid of this one page youd have to get rid of all of these pages too Category:Scheduled motorsport seasons Multiple of those articles lack in real infomation and are full of TBCs. MotoGP and WRC dont even have the race calendar on them, but rather contracted races. There is sources about what tracks are holding what. And the dates. AidenT06 (talk) 22:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: This championship is a GT championshio just like the British GT Championship and Intercontinental GT Challenge, in which this championship has also valid pages for the 2025 seasons right now. And the race calendar was already published for the next year. So, this page should be kept. And I really agree @AidenT06 for his opinion. There are two important categories already including the next seasons of motorsport championships, and . So, if you got rid of this page, why did not you get rid of the pages of all 2025 seasons, also for F1, WEC, and so on? Apeiro94 (talk) 05:18, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Kris McLaren (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. C679 07:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: no significant achievements either in a very short career. ww2censor (talk) 09:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Zaine Kennedy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Almost all the sourcing is not third party but speedway related. LibStar (talk) 01:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. The fact that the sources are related to the speedway does not make them non-independent. Per WP:GNG "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. These sources could be considered affiliated with him if, for example, he were their owner. I would add a few more secondary sources [34] [35] [36] Tau Corvi (talk) 22:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have set up a discussion here Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Speedway_related_sources. LibStar (talk) 23:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I saw the RSN discussion first, so I do not plan to vote, but to give my opinion from my limited perspective. Having taken a look at Scunthorpe Scorpions, which looks like two different teams on one article, I can count about five dozen riders that have articles. Of the "Notable riders," most of them use "speedway related sources" in their articles with British Speedway cited between two and three dozen times. (More problematic, but farther outside of the discussion is that at least one article is citing sources that are MREL and GUNREL.)
- Overall, the issue over the specific sources is going to have an effect on other articles. If deemed a problem, then there will need to be more AfD discussions in the near future; while if deemed acceptable could lead to additional article creations. I am of the opinion that redirects to the team articles could be more preferred than deletion and that some information might be includable in the various team articles. That said, I am unsure if the sources are a problem on these rider articles. --Super Goku V (talk) 06:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- 2022 NRL pre-season results (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I want to propose that the 2022 NRL pre-season results be redirected to National Rugby League#Pre-season or deleted, in addition to the 2023 NRL pre-season results and 2024 NRL pre-season results articles being renamed to 2023 NRL Pre-season Challenge and 2024 NRL Pre-season Challenge respectively. A collection of independently organised friendlies grouped on to one page is a trivial list and the information is better suited on the "2022 [team] season" pages. As for 2023 and 2024, these were organised by the NRL and the title of those pages should reflect the official name "Pre-season Challenge".
I understand muti page move would have likely been a better format for this discussion, however the template did not seem to function properly. Mn1548 (talk) 10:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- An alternative could be to merge/redirect to 2022 NRL season#Pre-season, adding details from the background but not the fixtures section. There are only four NRL teams without 2022 season articles, Raiders, Roosters, Tigers, and Warriors, so all the matches apart from 2 (Roosters against Raiders and Tigers) are covered by these articles. EdwardUK (talk) 13:01, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- That would be a more appropriate redirect, thanks. Mn1548 (talk) 14:41, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Disagreeing with the contention to rename the 2023 and 2024 articles. Both include additional information (trials, All Stars etc) that don't quite fit into the NRL's "Pre-season Challenge" nomenclature. I think the article in question here is a reasonable fork from the 2022 NRL season results article, which effectively captures the intention of these pre-season results articles. If anything (and this is especially true in the WP:RL space), these articles just require more prose. Storm machine (talk) 23:45, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Generally agree with most of this, though it still doesn't cover my main issue with the page - its title. "2022 NRL season results" implies there is some sort of formal organisation by the NRL, which there wasn't until 2023 and the pre-season challenge. Re 2023 and 2024, the non pre-season challenge information is minimal, and can be moved to the pre-season section of the respective NRL season page leaving the pre-season page as purely pre-season challenge information. Mn1548 (talk) 10:06, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was merge to USA Rugby League#New England Immortals. Star Mississippi 12:30, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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No evidence of passing WP:GNG or WP:NSPORT WP:SIGCOV in independent, secondary, reliable sources. Sources in the article are primary and/or affiliated. Does not turn up any news media coverage in WP:BEFORE search. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:01, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to USA Rugby League#New England Immortals. Mn1548 (talk) 13:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I would accept that merge as an AtD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect - it looks like this could perhaps have been WP:BLARed rather than being brought to AfD. signed, Rosguill talk 17:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Rosguill I thought it had been PROD'd but maybe I misread the history. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:56, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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Article has minimal sources and said sources only talk about exhibition games ahead of planed launches of the competition. Google search only bring up the Wikipedia page, Facebook page, and USARL Page which has nothing on it. Fails WP:GNG. Mn1548 (talk) 11:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Auckland in the 2009 Air New Zealand Cup (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of the notability of the subject. No indication of any interest in keeping it up to date (no updates in the last 15 years). – PeeJay 15:01, 14 July 2024 (UTC) I am also nominating the following related pages:
- Manawatu in the 2009 Air New Zealand Cup (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- This article consists only of a squad list
- Wellington in the 2009 Air New Zealand Cup (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- This article has not been updated since 2009
- Canterbury in the 2008 Air New Zealand Cup (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- This article is completely unreferenced
- Manawatu in the 2008 Air New Zealand Cup (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- This article is completely unreferenced
- North Otago in the 2008 Heartland Championship (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Delete no evidence of notability and all are unreferenced. If any of these do meet notability they may as well be recreated due to lack of anything to work with currently. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- FWIW the Wellington one is referenced. Aircorn (talk) 11:20, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete no evidence of notability and all are unreferenced. If any of these do meet notability they may as well be recreated due to lack of anything to work with currently. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:12, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Delete the North Otago one as that is a lower tier competition and as far as I can tell the only one of its type. Not fussed too much either way on whether the rest are kept or not, but am not sure how relevant the "not updated" argument is. The articles are about a competition that occurred 15 years ago, so there is unlikely to be any new information to add in the following years. Quality wise the Wellington one seems the most developed so maybe a weak keep that one and weak delete the others. Aircorn (talk) 18:13, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- If there's no sustained coverage of them after the fact then they are not notable. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- That’s not how notability works. Aircorn (talk) 11:18, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- WP:NSUSTAINED, also articles are meant to be based primarily on secondary sources. How can something be notable for our standards if it received no secondary coverage? Traumnovelle (talk) 02:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- That’s not how notability works. Aircorn (talk) 11:18, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- If there's no sustained coverage of them after the fact then they are not notable. Traumnovelle (talk) 06:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Venezuela men's junior national softball team (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:NTEAM. The only sources are mere listings/summaries of game results and standings, while a WP:BEFORE didn't reveal anything better. Let'srun (talk) 22:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Agree with nominator. No available sources to prove WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG or WP:NTEAM. Prof.PMarini (talk) 00:37, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]- Rudy Orea (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Only one source, which is partly a primary source, about him "going back" to amateur football. Only made one cup appearance for Bordeaux as a regular B team player. Paul Vaurie (talk) 11:52, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Vladimír Kinier (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to 1990 FIFA World Cup squads#Czechoslovakia because I could not find any in-depth coverage of this former men's footballer to meet WP:GNG. I've checked Wikipedia articles in other languages, but most of them only provide database sources. Corresponding article on Slovak Wikipedia, which may help copy over English article, is slightly longer and listed the clubs he has/had played for... but SKwiki likewise does not provide any decent coverage. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 09:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. The WP:BEFORE on this AFD looks quite pitiful. The top Google hit is one example of the FIFA World Cup player meeting WP:GNG and WP:SUSTAINED. Geschichte (talk) 10:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nick Floyd (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Nominating based on lack of notability. Only references are with brief text in minor and local sports news coverage, biography external link is dead. User:WoodElf 16:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Esmaeil Gholizadeh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of wp:notability under GNG or SNG (which says that these must meet GNG) Of the sources, 2 are just database listings and the other is about a game where he is mentioned. North8000 (talk) 20:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 08:36, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - the only remotely RS I can find are brief mentions of him in reports of matches. It sounds like he might become notable as his career progresses, but right now is TOOSOON. StartGrammarTime (talk) 12:05, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Lisa-Anne Smith (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 13:09, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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Doesn't seem to have received significant coverage. All I could find on this player was a 1961 Chicago Tribune newspaper article that he was playing in goal for an amateur team participating in the National Amateur Cup, which is barely a passing mention. Another site suggests a date of birth for this player, but that's all I could find, other than a Czech namesake who ran for political office in 1989. C679 13:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of United States men's international soccer players as possible search term. GiantSnowman 17:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Mostafa Makhlouf (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No indication the subject meets the general notability guideline. Only source indicates he is the fifth-choice goalkeeper for his club and he has not played at senior level. C679 11:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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- He was in the first team in the past 2 years
- And entered the African list for Al Ahly this year so he must have a Wikipedia page Mohamedmokhtar22 (talk) 11:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or Draft According to soccerway he hasn't played any games. So those trophies? Are they really earned? If the article was improved with better sourcing I might send to draft, in it's current state I would delete. Also @ Mohamedmokhtar22 Why do you have two accounts? Govvy (talk) 13:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Not enough coverage for this individual. All I can find [37], a few brief words about him. Oaktree b (talk) 16:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- First, I have only One account but I changed the username.
- Second, In African Championships if he entered the saquad in any match the whole championship it will be earnd for him Mohamedmokhtar22 (talk) 17:04, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 17:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.yallakora.com/egyptian-league/2795/news/447474/%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%AA%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%87-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B3-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%87%D9%84%D9%8A-%D9%85-%D9%86-%D9%87%D9%88-%D9%85%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%88%D9%81-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B0%D9%8A-%D8%B8%D9%87%D8%B1-%D8%A8%D8%B3%D8%A8%D8%A8-%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B3-
- This link from Yallakora the famous site about Mostafa Makhlouf Mohamedmokhtar22 (talk) 22:08, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Zahir Vasquez (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am unable to find enough coverage of this American soccer player to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 20:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- • Delete. I didn't find any articles about him in RS, only statistics and news on the website of the club for which he plays. Tau Corvi (talk) 14:55, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Martin Liška (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to Slovakia at the 2004 Summer Olympics as ATD because I could not find any in-depth coverage of this athlete to meet WP:GNG.
This AfD might be exactly the same issue as with Peter Kondrát I nominated back in January under my old username (CuteDolphin712). Since Martin Liška was born in Brno, Czech Republic, but represents Slovakia, I don't know which language of source is primary.
- The only decent site I found in Slovak language is SME but it looks nowhere near significant.
- Oddly enough, Czech media IDNES (2016, 2018, 2022) and Czech Television have articles of a horseback rider of the same name. However, the first source by IDNES tells said jockey turned 39 thus clearly not the same men as this cyclist. Without evidence of cyclist Liška being a horse jockey in his hometown, this case fails WP:V.
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Although subject may be covered by WP:NCRICKET (Additionally, cricketers who have played at the highest domestic level [...] may have sufficient coverage about them to justify an article, but it should not be assumed to exist without further proof), with a single appearance for a club side more than 20 years ago, there is no indication the subject has received significant coverage to pass the general notability guideline. C679 10:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- I am also nominating the following related page for the same reason:
- Hewage Jayaweera (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) C679 10:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - either one article is the problem or thousands. And if we isolate individual articles - in both English and non-English speaking countries - this does nothing to solve the problem we've landed ourselves in. Bobo. 17:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I haven't found any WP:SIGCOV confirmation. Tau Corvi (talk) 15:12, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Kris McLaren (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. C679 07:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: no significant achievements either in a very short career. ww2censor (talk) 09:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Alex Guerrero (lineman) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. - Although subject may meet WP:NGRIDIRON as stated in the last AfD (2011), this does not establish sufficient notability. C679 06:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- There is a good deal of SIGCOV. e.g., [38], feature pt 1/ feature pt 2. Cbl62 (talk) 16:41, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I added an initial piece of WP:SIGCOV. Cbl62 (talk) 19:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The Idaho Statesman feature now in the article is certainly WP:SIGCOV, combined with sources such as [[39]] I'd say there is enough to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 13:56, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Let'srun: Did you mean to mention a second source, other than The Idaho Statesman? C679 11:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- I meant to add [[40]] in addition to the other Idaho Statesman source. Let'srun (talk) 14:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keiichi Misawa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. Previously deleted by PROD. C679 03:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment A "small" HTML tag was left unclosed. This has been fixed. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Not enough accomplishments or sources for an encyclopedic article. Geschichte (talk) 07:57, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Eric Iloski (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am unable to find enough independent coverage of this American soccer player to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 02:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:25, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. He hasn't played at the highest level and doesn't pass WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 15:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. 2 sources provided are primary. Found nothing searching ["Chris Driver" mauritius -wikipedia] LibStar (talk) 01:18, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I haven't found RS that could confirm his notability. Tau Corvi (talk) 16:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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Redirect to Czech Republic at the 2022 Winter Olympics#Luge as I could not find enough in-depth coverage of this athlete to meet WP:GNG. I've checked corresponding Wikipedia article in other languages, especially the Czech one that might help copy over English article, but none of them provide significant coverage on him. One-time Olympics participant, Lejsek was not even one of the three luge medalists in pre-mentioned tournament either. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 15:34, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. World Championships participant in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023. European Championships participant in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023. (According to Whatlinkshere, haven't clicked them yet.) Geschichte (talk) 20:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect as above. I also didn’t find any RS that would show passing WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 16:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hayate Usui (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I have carried out WP:BEFORE on this article about a martial artist, and added two references, though one is a passing mention. I do not think Usui meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:NMMA. Tacyarg (talk) 08:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as per nom. Lekkha Moun (talk) 16:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Fails to meet WP:NMMA and I didn't find the significant independent coverage required to meet WP:GNG. Fight results and databases are not enough to show WP notability. Papaursa (talk) 02:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NMMA. Highest Rank: #60 acc. to FightMatrix [41]. Vorann Gencov (talk) 07:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC #5 (Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources.")
I created the article in 2020 when the old WP:NGRIDIRON presumed notability for NFL players -- we have database sources showing that Cleve appeared in 19 NFL games as a back and end from 1921-1924. When the presumption was reversed, User:Hey man im josh correctly tagged the article due to the need for additional sources. I thought that someone who appeared in 19 NFL games would have WP:SIGCOV, but my follow-up searches in 2022 didn't find any. I searched again today but didn't find anything rising to the level of SIGCOV. (FWIW: I did find some passing references where his given name was listed as "Ainar" [42] and others as "Einar" [43] [44].)
Despite my efforts, the article still does not comply with our guidelines, so it's time for me to throw in the towel -- unless someone can dig up SIGCOV that I've been unable to find. Cbl62 (talk) 00:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Newspapers.com is unavailable and will continue to be unavailable for the vast majority of users (including me) for an unknown amount of time. Could we at the very least draftify this? I can't even search for sources. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- No objection to that. Cbl62 (talk) 14:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify per nom and Beanie’s comments above. Beanie and Cbl62 both have a reputation of working very hard to find coverage of lesser-known topics if it’s available, so if either (or both) of them are interested, this is a very reasonable ATD. Worst case is there is no coverage available when newspapers.com is back online and the draft gets abandoned/deleted. Frank Anchor 02:20, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify: Finding sources about Ainer Cleve that meet WP:SPORTBASIC and WP:GNG is proving difficult. This approach would allow more time for research to prove that Cleve is notable (which is better than removing the content from the platform).--AstridMitch (talk) 06:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify: Searching newspapers.com and the LOC, I'm not finding the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. The only sources in the article are stats databases, and all I could find after trying multiple searches with different spellings was passing mentions such as [[45]] and [[46]]. Draftify as a WP:ATD to allow for interested editors to find more time to find significant coverage. Let'srun (talk) 14:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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Contested PROD; subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. Sources are limited to databases and routine match coverage. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. Much of the sourcing would be in Arabic, Ukrainian and Japanese. Not exactly easy for an English speaker to search Geschichte (talk) 07:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. GiantSnowman 20:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- I would accept draftify as an AtD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify – Per above. Svartner (talk) 19:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. The links provided are all primary. Could not find third party coverage of this individual. LibStar (talk) 01:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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Delete: No independent sources available. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC)Keep: After Julle's additions, enough WP:SIGCOV for WP:GNG. (I wonder how many articles are deleted because of wrong language settings) — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)- Delete: Doesn’t meet WP:GNG, no reliable references, the author should consider seeking more references, a lot is written on the article but nothing to show or prove notability.Madeforall1 (talk) 14:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I've expanded the article and added references from Yle, Vestmanlands Läns Tidning, sv:Enköpings-Posten. Some of these are shorter news pieces, but a couple of them have more substance. /Julle (talk) 21:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ping Alien333 and Madeforall1 in case you want to take another look. These sources were a bit difficult to locate if one doesn't speak Swedish (and in a couple of cases required access to newspaper archive to find them). /Julle (talk) 21:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Per sources from Julle 🤾♂️ Malo95 (talk) 17:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep: Did a quick Google Translate on the snippet from the YLE source added, it seems to talk about this person. I'll assume the others are of a similar quality, we have enough for a basic article anyway. Oaktree b (talk) 00:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Julles additions AlexandraAVX (talk) 16:26, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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Mahmutaj never played in a professional league and the coverage to date isn't enough for WP:SIGCOV, in my view. Panorama 1 is just an announcement of being released, Panorama 2 is just a direct quote from Mahmutaj with no third party analysis and Sport Ekspres represents the best source on him but it still only confirms that he scored 19 goals for Luftëtari and played at under-17 level for Albania, which I would say falls just short of the depth required. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment – I was wondering... Since interview sources fail WP:GNG, do ones with third-party analysis count to demonstrate the person's notability? If so, what are some examples from websites? ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 14:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- This interview is an example of one that would count as having at least some third party analysis (of the tennis player Carlos Alcaraz). Clariniie I am aware that that's a different sport, though. Good interview sources for football look like The Guardian (Leah Williamson interview) and BBC (Aitana Bonmatí interview). Notice how the articles are written outside of a normal Q&A format and how most of them start with some background info on the interviewee first, which automatically pushes it to SIGCOV. The articles do more than just merely regurgitate the interview. If someone can find similar calibre sourcing for Mahmutaj, I will happily withdraw my support for deletion. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 17:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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No top tier appearances, no meaningful prose and no evidence of WP:SIGCOV. The only source that I can find is Panorama, a mere squad listing. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, played some football games on a tier that was not fully professional, and no relevant sources. To the closer: remember to move Ervis Koçi (footballer, born 1984) to the non-disambiguated title afterwards. Geschichte (talk) 13:12, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Delete – Poorly-formatted article without significant coverage and major updates :( I also agree with Geschichte for the article rename once this nomination has been closed. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 14:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: not even a claim of notability. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 17:34, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Šárka Sudová (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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With only database references listed, this article fails WP:GNG. The closest significant coverage in reliable sources I found is iDNES. Unlike her sister Nikola, she has not received any medal record. Notability is not inherited from relatives; as ATD, should we consider redirect this article to her sister or Czech Republic at the 2010 Winter Olympics? ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 11:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. She is definitely notable enough. Article expanded. FromCzech (talk) 12:06, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Updated article after edits from FromCzech passes the notability guideline. C679 13:42, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. There still isn't enough WP:RS for GNG: apart from the iDNES ref, the article as of now relies on database references and texts written by herself (author profile pages). I was unable to find better. (N.B.: I do not speak Czech and my assessment of sources is based on machine translation of them, which means it may be very flawed). — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 18:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- I added several other references. FromCzech (talk) 16:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, per the expansion by FromCzech. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
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Lika played only 97 mins in the Superliga and there is no evidence of WP:SIGCOV. My own searches yielded only Panorama, a passing mention, and Durrës Lajm, a squad listing. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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His professional career was extremely brief by the looks of it. My own searches didn't yield any non-database coverage, therefore WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC don't seem to be met. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedy delete, not even a credible claim to notability at this point. Geschichte (talk) 13:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Delete – Lack of major edits with only database sources listed, this article is clearly not notable. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 14:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails both WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC. No significant coverage of him at all. — YoungForever(talk) 23:29, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-notable footballer, who doesn’t pass WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 22:36, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I could only find some routine coverage in match reports for the Montserrat national team after he scored 2 goals in the team's first win for 17 years. [47] [48] Not enough to satisfy WP:SIGCOV. C679 10:30, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG. I made this article at a time when WP:NFOOTY was a thing. Paul Vaurie (talk) 16:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-notable semi-professional footballer, who doesn’t pass WP:SIGCOV. All I found is statistics. Tau Corvi (talk) 14:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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Yet another long-unsourced article of a Slovak men's footballer who seems to have a minor career. According to Soccerway, his career in higher level clubs lasted between 107 and 800 minutes. He went missing from 2015 until 2023, but came back to play for third tier club FK Beluša, then disappeared again. I can't find any better source than passing mentions and database from my searches. Article fails WP:GNG overall. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 13:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Not notable by any stretch of the imagination. Athel cb (talk) 14:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I didn't find any secondary sources. He is also not mentioned in the articles of the clubs he played for, so there is nowhere to redirect. Tau Corvi (talk) 16:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Almost all the sourcing is not third party but speedway related. LibStar (talk) 01:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. The fact that the sources are related to the speedway does not make them non-independent. Per WP:GNG "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. These sources could be considered affiliated with him if, for example, he were their owner. I would add a few more secondary sources [49] [50] [51] Tau Corvi (talk) 22:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have set up a discussion here Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Speedway_related_sources. LibStar (talk) 23:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I saw the RSN discussion first, so I do not plan to vote, but to give my opinion from my limited perspective. Having taken a look at Scunthorpe Scorpions, which looks like two different teams on one article, I can count about five dozen riders that have articles. Of the "Notable riders," most of them use "speedway related sources" in their articles with British Speedway cited between two and three dozen times. (More problematic, but farther outside of the discussion is that at least one article is citing sources that are MREL and GUNREL.)
- Overall, the issue over the specific sources is going to have an effect on other articles. If deemed a problem, then there will need to be more AfD discussions in the near future; while if deemed acceptable could lead to additional article creations. I am of the opinion that redirects to the team articles could be more preferred than deletion and that some information might be includable in the various team articles. That said, I am unsure if the sources are a problem on these rider articles. --Super Goku V (talk) 06:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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So what exactly makes this guy notable? Being the son of Michael Vaughan, is all I can tell. He hasn't played cricket at a senior level and hasn't done anything of note in cricket to warrant inclusion. No amount of WP:ROUTINE refbombs can hide that he is a WP:GNG fail. AA (talk) 17:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Not notable, fails WP:GNG. Delete. Go4thProsper (talk) 19:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I don’t understand whether he has already played for Somerset and the England U19 to pass WP:NCRIC, but signing a contract with the club and being called up to the U19 team is being covered in the media, which indicates the passage WP:SIGCOV. I will list several secondary sources, you can easily find more [52][53][54] Tau Corvi (talk) 14:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- But why is that notable? Plenty of people get signed by major sports teams and never go onto do anything. Is the bar really set this low? Again, if his father wasn't a famous cricketer, he would not get any coverage. AA (talk) 22:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Article was moved to mainspace via Afc. Subject has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Hildreth gazzard (talk) 00:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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Does not meet verifiability guidelines per WP:SPORTSPERSON. 333fortheain (talk) 04:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment Does not fail WP:V thanks to various databases, but an article cannot be built on databases only. Geschichte (talk) 12:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The article needs to add more information and sources. Passes WP:SIGCOV, it’s easy to find reliable secondary sources in Russian that talk about his career and personal life [55][56][57][58][59][60][61][62][63] Tau Corvi (talk) 15:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete article lacks in sources and in any information. The sources i found, including the ones presented by @Tau Corvi (Thank you for providing those) are, in my opinion, not enough to prove notability as per WP:SPORTCRIT - those are just narration of transfers, some tabloid coverage and game results. Vorann Gencov (talk) 15:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Lacks notability and reliable sources, the article does not meet Wikipedia's standards and therefore should be deleted. Yakov-kobi (talk) 13:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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Subject person played only 1 List-A and 2 First class match. Does WP:GNG surpasses WP:NCRICK? Twinkle1990 (talk) 15:42, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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- @Twinkle1990: - can I just point out NSPORT states that "Failing to meet the criteria in this guideline means that notability will need to be established in other ways (for example, the general notability guideline...) - so all NSPORT is saying that people who meet those criteria are considered notable, but not meeting those criteria doesn't automatically make them non-notable. Mdann52 (talk) 20:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - meets GNG. Mdann52 (talk) 20:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't appear on the cricket delsort - tryingto add that again first Blue Square Thing (talk) 05:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- At worst this is an obvious redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players where his name needs to be added. A note should also be added, as has been done for others. Beyond that I have no particular view here - there are some sources, but not so many. I suspect he is likely to be covered in others as well fwiw Blue Square Thing (talk) 05:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players. He does not meet GNG - this is the one qualifying source. Gloscricket is obviously not independent coverage. -- asilvering (talk) 18:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, but he may be notable in the future, i.e. WP:NOTNOW. SWinxy (talk) 01:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @SWinxy, in this case, wouldn't a redirect be more appropriate? That way, if he becomes notable in the future, someone won't have to start the article from scratch. -- asilvering (talk) 18:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, borderline decision but given the rhythms and vagaries of the English county cricket season we are approaching the part where younger players are used to a greater extent, precisely the time this page will be useful to people who follow the game to refer to. Hildreth Gazzard (talk) 06:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players. References are currently insufficient for GNG. Frank Anchor 18:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Passes WP:NCRIC as a cricketer who has played at the highest domestic level. I would add [64] and maybe [65] to the references. Tau Corvi (talk) 14:18, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Non-notable skater; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:50, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. NSKATE is wrong and should never have been adopted. So many articles about champion skaters are being deleted. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 19:47, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 18:39, 13 July 2024 (UTC)- Redirect to 2011-2012 figure skating season#Ice dance 4 or to 2011–12 ISU Junior Grand Prix#Ice dance, possibly to another table in those articles. Doesn't pass WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 13:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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Redirect to Slovakia at the 2014 Winter Olympics#Luge as ATD because I could not find any in-depth coverage about this luger to meet WP:GNG. All I found on news websites were passing mentions of his participation at the tournament. He was not even on top three luge winners. This article has been deleted from Slovak Wikipedia on 18 November 2018, possibly due to BLP concerns. The only interlanguage wiki available is Norsk Bokmål (Norwegian) Wikipedia but it listed exactly the same sources as the English article. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 11:20, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep the article meets the notability criteria for athletes, having competed in the Winter Olympics and achieved notable rankings in World Championships and World Cups.Yakov-kobi (talk) 20:09, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Slovakia at the 2014 Winter Olympics#Luge: Unable to find any WP:SIGCOV from independent, reliable sources to meet the WP:GNG. Participating in the Olympics no longer grants inherent notability. Redirect as a WP:ATD per the nom. Let'srun (talk) 02:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Slovakia at the 2014 Winter Olympics as the subject doesn’t meet WP:SPORTCRIT. Could not find any WP:SIGCOV Vorann Gencov (talk) 11:50, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect as above or to Luge at the 2014 Winter Olympics – Doubles#Results. Doesn’t meet WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 17:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect as suggested as an AtD. We've been presented with sporting results, and from that we're supposed to build a biography of a living human being? WP:SPORTSPERSON requires at least one source which directly details the subject. Nothing like that here. BusterD (talk) 11:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)