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Category:Salitas FC[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only contains a players category and the main article, which are now interlinked directly. – Fayenatic London 21:13, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 10:48, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Conservative Party Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom (etc.)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. ✗plicit 03:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Conforms to MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 19:50, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - these do conform with MOS:JOBTITLES and the naming of other categories such as bishops. Oculi (talk) 01:56, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as proposed by the nom. Georgethedragonslayer (talk) 07:29, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose most -- "Prime Minister" is a title and is only correctly spelt when capitalised. There is only one of them at a time in each country. The analogy with bishops is a bad one as "Bishop of Lichfield" is similarly a unique title, hold by one person at a time; bishops of Liverpool might be correct because there are both Anglican and RC bishops, though I think the RC one is an archbishop. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:15, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment That there's only one PM at a time per country doesn't apply since these categories are repositories of all past and current prime ministers (Theresa May wasn't uncategorized from Category:Conservative Party Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom upon Boris Johnson replacing her). Plus, the manual of style clearly shows that plurals must (almost) always be lowercase. --Woko Sapien (talk) 19:57, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. The description is not about the title but the function. As Woko Sapien clarified it's not one in a time of high office holder but just a job title, so manual of style. --Just N. (talk) 21:56, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support MOS:JOBTITLES in plural -- DaxServer (talk) 17:27, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Murdered Russian Americans[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Overcategorization#Trivial_characteristics_or_intersection and WP:EGRS, this category represents "characteristics that are unrelated or wholly peripheral to the topic's notability." User:Namiba 19:03, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Football (soccer) in Niue[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 19#Category:Football (soccer) in Niue

Category:19th-century Prime Ministers of Nepal (etc.)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. ✗plicit 03:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Conforms to MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 17:55, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - these do conform with MOS:JOBTITLES and the naming of other categories such as bishops. Oculi (talk) 01:56, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose most -- "Prime Minister" is a title and is only correctly spelt when capitalised. See fuller comments on another nom above. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:16, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Except these categories use "Prime Ministers" (plural), which the manual of style clearly shows must be lowercase. --Woko Sapien (talk) 19:58, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Low-power FM radio stations[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Low-power FM radio stations in the United States. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 09:54, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No foreign stations on list; consistent with proposed renaming of LPTV category. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:21, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support as more explanatory. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:53, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question: Are there any Low-Power FM radio stations outside of the US? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 20:47, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Neutralhomer, not as a unique class of station. I can name off the bat Mexican FMs with ERPs of 4, 5 and 27 watts: two are commercial and one is a tiny noncom that serves a mining village. But the point is that the categorization coincides with a unique US legal classification that isn't quite there in other countries. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:36, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's what I was wondering. If there were other countries with LPFMs, then yes, it should be renamed. If there weren't, then I didn't think it was necessary. So, in accordance with your answer, Rename per Sammi. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:53, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename for Now with no objection to recreating a category under this name if non-US articles ever appear. - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:36, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Of course there are low power/reach FM radios still in a lot of countries even if a tendency to change into internet radios is rising. Likewise most of them are small local community broadcasters (e.g. campus radios) and unlikely to ever get an article. --Just N. (talk) 22:23, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The main issue is that "low-power FM" is a distinct radio service (with separate rules) only in the United States. Other countries have community radio classifications, but this is different. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:41, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Children of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom (etc.)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. There isn't particularly strong support for deletion, so defaulting to rename as nominated. ✗plicit 03:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Conforms to MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 17:08, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I would think deletion would be better as clearly not defining to the subject. MilborneOne (talk) 21:07, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:NONDEF. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:09, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have no strong opinion either way, but if there's consensus that these should be deleted, should all the subcategories of Category:Children of national leaders be deleted as well? Just asking.--Woko Sapien (talk) 13:40, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and rename per nom. While people under these categories must also be notable for other reasons, it's inevitable that them being a child of their country's head of government will have had contributed to public coverage of them, becoming a defining characteristic at least for some part of their lives. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:47, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and rename per nom. I can't imagine any article on Mark Thatcher failing to mention his mother. Oculi (talk) 21:07, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose most -- "Prime Minister" is a title and is only correctly spelt when capitalised. If a person deserves an article and is the child of a head of government, we should allow it and categorise accordingly. If the child is NN, there should be no article, so that it could not be in a category. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:20, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment You're correct about "Prime Minister", but these categories use "Prime Ministers". The manual of style clearly shows that plurals must (almost) always be lowercase. --Woko Sapien (talk) 19:52, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Digital low-power television stations[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Low-power television stations in the United States. bibliomaniac15 05:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The current category is redundant in a US context after all remaining analog TV stations (with 15 remote exceptions in Alaska) were shut down on July 13. It should either be converted to a category for LPTVs (with stations that failed to transition removed) or deleted as redundant if such a category is not desired. Changing the scope to US and removing CFTV-DT and CHMG-DT will create a parallel to Category:Low-power FM radio stations. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:47, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support; then sort into state sub-categories like in the LPFM category ("Low-power television stations in Alabama", "Low-power television stations in Alaska", etc.) Mvcg66b3r (talk) 17:23, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also a note: 3,286 of the 4,167 pages in the category are redirects, so there would be fewer than 1,000 pages were these to be removed from the cat. There are likely also some pages that would be added throughout. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:40, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman bishops[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Bishops in the Roman Empire. bibliomaniac15 05:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: They were not all Roman citizens or Roman nationals. But they did serve their episcopacy in the Roman Empire (as opposed to the Persian Empire for example). Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:30, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support "by century" per actual category content. Comment on "Roman" versus "in the Roman Empire": the whole tree of Category:Romans are intended for people of the Roman Republic and Roman Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:28, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I struck support by century. Reconsidering this, it would not make sense to have a "by century" category without a top Category:Roman bishops and two category layers would be unneeded here. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1st-century bishops in Greece[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:1st-century bishops in Roman Achaea. bibliomaniac15 05:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There was no Greece in the 1st century. All the current occupants of the category are now in the Roman province of Achaea. Others (those in Macedonia etc) I have distributed to Category:1st-century bishops in the Roman Empire. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:06, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support this. Rathfelder (talk) 16:07, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not quite the same issue. This nom is specifically about in Greece whereas the main tree is Greek. So one might be Greek but not notable as working in Greece. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:17, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Technically true, but in practice it will not make a lot of difference. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The question really is, would Greece mean anything at all in the Roman period? There had never been a Greek country, only a Greek civilization. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support we need to categorize by something we can define in a clear way. What is and is not "Greece" in the first century is not clearly definable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:30, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Neighborhoods in Kathmandu[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename Category:Neighborhoods in Kathmandu to Category:Neighbourhoods in Kathmandu, keep Category:Neighbourhoods in Pokhara (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I'm not an expert on whether Nepalese categories are expected to follow British or American spelling conventions for the word "neighbo(u)rhood", so I've listed both of the possibilities here, but we can't have Kathmandu using one spelling with Pokhara at the other — either way, they need to both be at the same spelling, so one or the other of these has to be renamed for consistency. Bearcat (talk) 15:37, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment given the influence of (Commonwealth English using) India, I suspect that neighbourhoods is right. Note that the parent is also Category:Neighbourhoods in Nepal.Grutness...wha? 02:13, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Neighbourhoods: Nepal is next to India where British English is the norm. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:29, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Neighbourhoods British Commonwealth. --Just N. (talk) 22:36, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sechelt, British Columbia[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Sechelt. bibliomaniac15 05:10, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a municipality without the volume of spinoff content necessary to warrant an eponymous category. Other than the head article itself, the only other thing here is one school, which is not sufficient. Bearcat (talk) 15:08, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Some of your choices of how to populate it were bad ones, including an individual person who happened to live there for a couple of years but wasn't defined by that fact (and people never belong in "City" categories for any place that doesn't have a "People from City" subcategory anyway, so even if he'd been born in Sechelt he still wouldn't belong in this category), a radio station whose community of license is Gibsons and thus isn't defined by Sechelt, a company not based in Sechelt that happens to have previously acquired a defunct company that was based in Sechelt, and a university that has a satellite campus in Sechelt but whose main campus is in North Van (and thus is defined only by North Van, and not by every location where there's a satellite campus that doesn't have its own separate article from the parent institution). There isn't a particularly strong basis for having to keep this at all if you're having to clutch at that many straws to get it to any significant size. Bearcat (talk) 15:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thise were just from the first 50 articles that mentioned Sechelt, out of round 1200, and I disagree with some of your comments - a radio station whose main studio is in Sechelt, for example - and this is the first time I've ever heard a rule about people not going into a place category if there isn't a "people from place" subcategory. In any case there are now eight articles in the category, which is more than enough to justify keeping it. Grutness...wha? 23:45, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The physical location of a radio studio is not a defining characteristic of a radio station — radio stations are defined and categorized by their legal community of license, which does not actually have to be the same place as the physical location of the studio where the hosts actually sit but is still a more important characteristic than the latter regardless. Bearcat (talk) 16:40, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete With no objection to recreating when there are 5+ articles about the town. Except for École du Pacifique, the added articles all appear to be outside the town but near the similarly named Sechelt Inlet. (Certainly rename if kept.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 23:40, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename, most articles are about things in the district municipality of Sechelt. The university and the ship may be purged though. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per Marcocapelle & Grutness. --Just N. (talk) 22:41, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Spouses of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom (etc.)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. ✗plicit 03:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Conforms to MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 13:31, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose "Prime Minister" is a title and correctly capitalised. Each country only has one at a time. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:31, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The manual of style clearly states "Offices, titles, and positions such as president, king, emperor, grand duke, lord mayor, pope, bishop, abbot, prime minister, chief financial officer, and executive director are common nouns and therefore should be in lower case when used generically." When these positions are written in the plural (as they are in the these categories) they are being used generically, and therefore cannot be referring to any one specific individual.--Woko Sapien (talk) 19:44, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all per nom. Same case as above. --Just N. (talk) 22:43, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename all per nom and per MOS. 'Prime Minister' is a title, 'prime ministers' is not. Oculi (talk) 22:50, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support MOS:JOBTITLES in plural -- DaxServer (talk) 17:28, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment added two more entries I originally missed to this proposal.--Woko Sapien (talk) 21:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hinduism and atheism[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. ✗plicit 03:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently one article. A dual merge is not needed, the article is also in another subcategory of Category:Religion and atheism. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Countries that end in stan[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: has already been deleted (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 15:37, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Wikipedia:Overcategorization --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 00:58, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Textbook WP:SHAREDNAME. Stan literally means "land", so this as trivial and useless as "countries ending in -land" or "towns ending in -ville" or "place-names beginning with the letter G". --Animalparty! (talk) 02:24, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - countries don't end in anything, and the category is empty. Oculi (talk) 09:31, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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