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The result was delete. ✗plicit 01:38, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Michalis Karas[edit]

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Stats entry on a subject that only marginally scrapes an WP:NFOOTBALL pass with two professional games in 2013, after which he disappeared from the professional game. Cup games in 2014 don't count as he was playing in the semi-pro 2013–14 Cypriot Second Division.

A Google News search yielded nothing at all while this Greek language search failed to find any WP:SIGCOV. All I could find was EPSM24 announcing his release - this article tells us nothing that we don't already know from reading his Soccerway page. Sports Up also has an article mentioning him but this also contains no detailed coverage of Karas. Clear consensus from Loizos Papasavva, Sotiris Fiakas and others that such footballers don't meet the requirements for an article. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:26, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Cyprus. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:26, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions.CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:32, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - there is longstanding consensus that scraping by on NFOOTBALL with a handful of appearances is insufficient when GNG is failed so comprehensively, as is the case here. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:40, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete we really need to go to at least a 3 game minimum for passing of football notability. I also think we need to seriously question why we have such an insanely long list of leagues that give default notability. The current set up is flooding Wikipedia with articles on footballers. These articles are almost always very low quality. Something fundamentally has to change.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:39, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Three is just an arbitrary number, a number of people who've played three games also woefully fail WP:GNG. The current setup of "if they've played at least one game, they're usually notable, but if not, we can delete them" is fine. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:41, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete fails WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:41, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete No reliable sources present, fails GNG. Timetraveller80 (talk) 10:25, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.