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The result was keep‎. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 03:28, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jack McDaniels[edit]

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Non notable coach/player with only affiliated sources and social media posts used to establish article. After a search I cannot find any non-affiliated sources regarding the subject.

Additionally, it appears the article may have been created by the own individual. Grahaml35 (talk) 19:45, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Non-notable individual likely writing his own WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:15, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete : Coverage is all primary sources from schools/post-secondary institutions. This is all I could find and I don't think it's the same person [1]. delete regardless. Oaktree b (talk) 20:19, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Sources. A simple google search turns up this, this, this, this. Cbl62 (talk) 20:19, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• There appears to be arguable SIGCOV in the following sources (some mentioned above): "Freshman McDaniels promising quarterback for Hornets" and "McDaniels to start at quarterback in DSU opener, Black also will play" from the Delaware State News; "McDaniels right at home with UWA" from The Tuscaloosa News; and "Virginia football notebook: South County’s Jack McDaniels-to-Dillon Spalding connection is clicking" from The Washington Post. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:42, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Muboshgu and Oaktree b: Just letting you both know of the sources uncovered, in case either of you want to see. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:04, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Is a football coach at a US university notable? They don't attract much attention in Canada. Oaktree b (talk) 21:08, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Sources are fine, if the position is notable, it could be a !keep. Oaktree b (talk) 21:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Eh, generally the head coaches at each level are notable, then coordinators and some position coaches in FBS are often notable as well; that said, McDaniels is only a position coach in an FCS (i.e. second-level) program. That is why I haven't taken a stance, as his position isn't really that notable but the sources are more than I expected for such a topic. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Anyone can be notable, if they are the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources independent of themselves. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I will re-review. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: It lacks a single credible source and nothing noteworthy in the entire article. FreshTec843 (talk) 01:07, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep based on the explanation above. 14:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot to sign my last post. Oaktree b (talk) 15:54, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per sources found by Cbl62 and BeanieFan. It appears to be enough SIGCOV to get past GNG. Not by much, but it is a pass. Frank Anchor 17:55, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Looking for more feedback on newly presented sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 01:26, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Sources presented so far are all ROTM and fail the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 19:11, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. ROTM is an essay and the sources plainly cover McDaniels "directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content" – which is all that is necessary. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:21, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which is why I cited the GNG. Having the name appear in the Washington Post doesn't grant anyone inherent notability. Let'srun (talk) 23:00, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of course a plain WaPo mention doesn't grant auto-notability; but significant coverage in multiple sources does (usually), and more weight generally should be given when one of those sources is one of the US's nationally prominent newspapers. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:19, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep (a bit weak). Isn't the strongest pass, but the fact that we have in-depth stories focusing on McDaniels from three newspapers, including the nationally prominent Washington Post, shows that this meets WP:GNG with sufficient WP:SIGCOV. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:21, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 22:50, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep passes WP:GNG with the above mentioned significant coverage. Alvaldi (talk) 13:30, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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