The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Consensus to keep per NUNI established. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:44, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hellenic Mediterranean University[edit]

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Fails WP:ORG and no WP:RS available. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as per above. Xegma(talk) 15:09, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools, and Greece. Shellwood (talk) 15:23, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Probably keep - unless shown to be a fake, it is hard to believe that a degree-awarding institution with more than 12 thousand students is not notable per advice at WP:NUNI JMWt (talk) 20:37, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• del no independent in-depth coverage. - Altenmann >talk 23:57, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• keep, is is notable (WP:NUNI) and replaced the TEI CRETE in 2019 (source: Hellenic Parliament). This is also mentionned in List of universities in Greece. - Guillaume Faye-Bédrin (talk) 19:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I've also !voted Keep, but to point out from WP:NLIST: Because the group or set is notable, the individual entries in the list do not need to be independently notable. Being included in a list doesn't justify a standalone article. IgnatiusofLondon (talk) 02:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. We generally keep universities established by statute per longstanding consensus. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Existing is not the same as notable. At the moment this looks like a promo piece. And no, "normal editing" will not suffice, as that never happens after an article is kept. The Banner talk 18:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't think the article, at least as I am seeing it, qualifies as WP:PROMO. It gives factual details on courses and departments, and while there's definitely a WP:PROPORTION issue, this is not uncommon among articles of this type and interest, and would likely be resolved with further article expansion that, for example, details the reasons for the university's foundation, its history, and any notable staff. The bigger problem is the reliance on sources published by the university, but so long as independent sources can be shown to exist, I don't think this is so big an issue to require the article's deletion. In other words, the non-independent sources aren't doing any harm and can stay until someone takes enough interest in the topic to find better sources, or if they really are unpalatable, the article can always be cut back to one or two sentences only using independent sources. IgnatiusofLondon (talk) 01:57, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep I'm quite surprised by how quickly the delete !votes have been accepted here. The law mentioned in the article checks out (article 31). I took the university's name in Greek, and the first gsearch turned out quite a bit of coverage: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. It wasn't exactly hard to find these sources. Nonetheless, knowing nothing about the Greek language, I feel I can offer little more comment than to say that this university clearly exists and has been covered in multiple Greek newspapers as well as Greek law. It's also worth remembering that it's only been around 5 years, half of which were through Covid, which might explain why we might expect a few more sources than perhaps are immediately visible. IgnatiusofLondon (talk) 01:48, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep- Sources raised by @IgnatiusofLondon look strong and support WP:NUNI per previous comments. Article could use some clean-up, though.

TLA (talk) 02:28, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.