The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Spartaz ^Humbug! 21:19, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

First swearing-in ceremony of Narendra Modi[edit]

First swearing-in ceremony of Narendra Modi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Second swearing-in ceremony of Narendra Modi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

WP:NOTNEWS. These articles are like press reports, and are not useful or encyclopedic. This is also not the first swearing-in of this man, as he was also the Chief Minister of Gujarat before. So, he had a couple of these ceremonies before as well. Peter Ormond 💬 04:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 05:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 05:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 05:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete both per nom. I swear these are ridiculously trivial. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:28, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Meh. Yes, the articles are strings of event details, that, in a vacuum, I would call non-encyclopedic. But we have these articles for most (all?) recent US presidents, as far as I can tell, and certainly the inaugurals listed here match them for ceremony and repetitious press coverage generated. If I had my way I'd delete all of them; we have a tendency to write cruft about political figures, and these are prime examples; but when we have inaugural articles for the king of the Netherlands, and the President of Uruguay (two nations that, put together, have a smaller population than the city in which Modi was inaugurated), and even the wartime inauguration of Harry Truman that wasn't the result of an election at all, I think deleting these pages, that were each a consequence of the largest elections in human history, is a bad look. And before anybody starts citing WP:OSE at me; I make this argument because the OP argues to delete on general principles, not based on the volume of coverage generated. If we are arguing to disregard all news coverage of such an event under NOTNEWS, that argument very much applies to other inaugurals. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Looking a little further, there's over a hundred pages in Category:Presidential inaugurations. I'd gladly dispense with all of them (with exceptions for where there's substantial coverage outside contemporary press reports), but I struggle to believe that the most recent inaugurals in the most populous country represented therein are the least notable. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:30, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Agree with Vanamonde93. For the moment, I'm going with keep on the grounds that India is huge and vastly important, so it would look downright silly (and parochial) to delete this while retaining all the other examples above. I would lose no sleep if the entire class of articles disappeared, but I'm not sure I care enough to fight for their removal either. "Meh" is indeed the most reasonable reaction. Elemimele (talk) 22:26, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure someone will nominate the other articles at some point. In the meantime though WP:OTHERSTUFF isn't a valid reason to vote keep. Otherwise nothing stops people from making the same circular argument when the other articles are eventually nominated. --Adamant1 (talk) 05:58, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep I will also support preserving the article. It meets all the minimum criteria for WIKI and yes we can talk about setting a standard to delete such inaugural events of other countries as well. Shrikanthv (talk) 16:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:37, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per the nominator. This is clearly mindless trivia that could just as easily have a paragraph in the article for Narendra Modi. Same goes for similar articles. In the meantime their mere existence doesn't make this one magically worth keeping. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:53, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  It does when most of these articles have a weaker claim to notability than this page. A mass nomination would be more appropriate, or alternatively, batch nominations beginning with the least notable. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:07, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can almost guarantee if they were mass nominated that people would come along to vote procedural keep and complain that they should have been nominated individually. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:15, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps, but that's a problem with our procedures that doesn't affect my point. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:38, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly does that have to do with the procedures? People can nominate articles individually or in a batch. There isn't really a preference procedurally. It mostly comes down to personal preference and people deciding to use however the nomination is done as an excuse to keep the article/articles, nothing else. In this case there's literally zero reason that a batch/mass nomination would be better. --Adamant1 (talk) 05:49, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:58, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Presidential inaugurations are a whole different type of ceremony than that of a prime minister taking office, where universally, it's usually it's done with much less pomp and circumstance in order to get to work, while a presidential inauguration is an exchange of power to an entirely new executive branch. Previous PM's have little to no details about their ceremonies, and Modi is clearly an aberration in wanting large ceremonies. Nate • (chatter) 22:36, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  You are aware, I presume, that in India the Prime Minister has all effective power over the executive branch, and that the inauguration of a prime minister is also when the executive branch is replaced in its entirety, excepting the president and vice-president, whose positions are essentially ceremonial? Vanamonde (Talk) 22:44, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Fully aware; please don't try to condescend my rationale. But there are no other articles dealing with other Indian PM ceremonies, as they were minimal or done under circumstances which don't call for it. This is an outlier article among all Indian PM articles, thus my call for deletion. Nate • (chatter) 02:06, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.