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The result was keep. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:42, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apocalypso (novel)[edit]

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Novel is not notable Uwsi (talk) 01:41, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 01:45, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 02:44, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Robert Rankin (with the history preserved under the redirect), the author, per Wikipedia:Deletion#Alternatives to deletion. I found one source that provided significant coverage about the book:

  Wilson, Andrew (1999-07-31). "On the couch with a computer". The Scotsman. p. 11. ProQuest 326792833.

  The book review is of two books: "Gateway By Frederik Pohl Millennium, GBP 6.99 Apocalypso By Robert Rankin Corgi, GBP 5.99".

  The book review notes:

  ... Apocalypso is the story of a belated invasion by a sprout-headed alien and the desperate race to prevent the creature from conquering the world.

  Of course, a good shaggy dog story is never as simple as that. The book also tells the story of Porrig, a foolish young man who has inherited a very peculiar bookshop from his deceased Uncle Alph. But as he was once Apocalypso The Miraculous, the greatest stage magician of his day, he may not be dead for long.

  Rankin stirs his ingredients into a ridiculous souffle and serves up a thoroughly silly book. The jokes don't always work, but his enthusiasm for his material is infectious. Rankin even manages to evoke some real empathy for his hopeless shower of characters as they try to defeat the monster. It's a stroke of luck that the alien is almost as pathetic as the rest of them.

  Cunard (talk) 11:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Per the ISFDB there are two reviews floating around out there, one from Interzone (magazine) and another from The Zone and Premonitions. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 19:35, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 02:33, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Robert Rankin (which is actually a generous solution). I find nothing significant about this book in reviews. Note that there are similar articles for many other of his books. Some have synopses that provide a fair amount of text, but I haven't found any with sources that I would consider sufficient for a separate article. Lamona (talk) 21:29, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Changed to keep per the sources found by ReaderofthePack (talk · contribs). Thank you for finding those sources! Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria says:

  A book is presumed notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the following criteria:

  1. The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.

  Since Apocalypso has been reviewed in The Scotsman, Interzone and The Zone and Premonitions, it meets Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria.

  Cunard (talk) 05:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, meets WP:NBOOK and WP:GNG, has multiple reviews as brought out by editors above. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:10, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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