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:Workshop discussions should utilize the existing evidence presented. [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color: #cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color: #cc6600;">talk</span>]]</small></sup> 17:03, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
:Workshop discussions should utilize the existing evidence presented. [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color: #cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]] <sup><small>[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color: #cc6600;">talk</span>]]</small></sup> 17:03, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks. --[[User:Mhhossein|<span style="font-family:Aharoni"><span style="color:#002E63">M</span><span style="color:#2E5894">h</span><span style="color:#318CE7">hossein</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mhhossein|<span style="color:#056608">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 14:25, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
::Ok, thanks. --[[User:Mhhossein|<span style="font-family:Aharoni"><span style="color:#002E63">M</span><span style="color:#2E5894">h</span><span style="color:#318CE7">hossein</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mhhossein|<span style="color:#056608">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 14:25, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
:::Hello [[User:David Fuchs|David Fuchs]]. I wonder if [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Iranian_politics/Workshop&diff=prev&oldid=1041484509 this] is a Workshop comment. I don't know if I should even respond to these accusations? I think this would make the case more complicated than before. Best. --[[User:Mhhossein|<span style="font-family:Aharoni"><span style="color:#002E63">M</span><span style="color:#2E5894">h</span><span style="color:#318CE7">hossein</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mhhossein|<span style="color:#056608">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 12:10, 31 August 2021 (UTC)


== Discussion on User talk:L235 ==
== Discussion on User talk:L235 ==

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Placement of comments

I have a question about placement of comments. I'm a party to this case. Am I correct in understanding that if I respond to an arbitrator or "other" the comment must remain in the "parties" section and not be threaded? But if I respond to a comment by another party, can it be threaded (because they are in the same section)? Courtesy ping to @Moneytrees:.

Also these comments[1][2] by @Stefka Bulgaria: (courtesy ping) might be in the wrong place. VR talk 14:18, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vice regent, If you want to respond to something an arbitrator said in the "Arbitrators" section it should be in the "parties" section. If you respond to something said in the "others" section, it doesn't really matter whether it's in the "parties" or "others" section. Moneytrees🏝️Talk/CCI guide 22:40, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Vice regent: I would prefer if participants kept their comments in their own appropriate section, regardless of whether they're responding to someone in a different section. This isn't a huge deal – clerks can fix it when it comes up, no warnings needed – because the sections here (arb, party, non-party) are for identification and convenience, not for conflict-reduction as other sectioning requirements are. However, the drafters may have a different view. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 01:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pings to possibly unaware users

Since lots of folks (including myself) are not very familiar with arbitration, I just want to ping everyone who provided evidence but has not participated at Workshop yet. The workshop closes on Aug 24. @Mhhossein:, @Idealigic:, @Eostrix:, @MarioGom:, @Ghazaalch:, @Red Phoenix:, @Adoring nanny:. This current page that you see right now is the Workshop talk page. The actual Workshop page is here where I encourage everyone to participate.

To arbs and clerks, I apologize if the above pings are inappropriate. I notice that the workshop closes in a mere 4 days!VR talk 14:38, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request to extend the deadline

I kindly request arbitrators to extend the deadline of the Workshop phase. This will allow uninvolved users a greater chance to participate who might be battling a backlog or otherwise busy. Barkeep49 asked a very important question that merits a full discussion but right now we only have 4 days. I have been making proposals for which I would like more feedback from uninvolved users. Thanks for considering this request.VR talk 19:07, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is ultimately up to the drafters, but personally I'd be open to an extension. The workshop for this case has been unusually fruitful and productive relative to the average case, especially related to the MEK RfCs. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 19:22, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The drafting arbitrators have approved a one-week extension to the workshop phase; I will update the case dates shortly. GeneralNotability (talk) 02:06, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks!VR talk 02:45, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New evidences allowed?

Can an Arb please tell me if new evidences are allowed to be inserted here during the discussion course. I am talking about comments like this. I am asking this in light of this comment, specifically. I know one needs to refer to some new diffs when participating the workshop stage, but the question is if there is a borderline for it. Thanks. --Mhhossein talk 12:58, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Workshop discussions should utilize the existing evidence presented. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 17:03, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks. --Mhhossein talk 14:25, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello David Fuchs. I wonder if this is a Workshop comment. I don't know if I should even respond to these accusations? I think this would make the case more complicated than before. Best. --Mhhossein talk 12:10, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion on User talk:L235

For transparency, see this discussion at User talk:L235. I'll try to remember to update this link later if necessary.VR talk 00:16, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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