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The RfC resolves primarily around this diff: [1] and whether the origin of the breed should be listed as Morocco or North Africa (or any alternative location). Traumnovelle (talk) 06:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2024

Should the "Controversies and incidents" section contain a section on Israel votes and media reports in connection to this which relate to more individuals than expected or individuals which would not usually have voted. PicturePerfect666 (talk) 16:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2024

Should this article's lede mention controversies that arose surrounding the song contest? If yes, please explain to what extent, i.e. should it mention that there were controversies in general or should any specific controversies be detailed?

Please note that as a prominent controversy is related to the Israel-Hamas war, it is subject to WP:ARBECR. Accordingly, accounts with fewer than 500 edits and 30 days' tenure may not participate. Any comment violating ARBECR may be removed by any editor, and edit warring will not be tolerated. Please keep the discussion respectful: comment on the matter in question, not on other editors. Thank you. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 13:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Joe Biden

Should Biden's building of a port to facilitate American aid to Palestinians be mentioned in the lead?

Option #1: No.
Option #2: Yes.
Option #3: Aid in general should be mentioned. Not the port itself.

Does it merit inclusion? KlayCax (talk) 20:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Ben Roberts-Smith

Should Ben Roberts-Smith be referred to as war criminal in the first sentence of the lede?

05:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Barkley Marathons

Should Female finishers be recorded separately for the Barkley Marathons?

Re-listed. ―Mandruss ☎ 13:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Havana syndrome

There is ongoing discussion about how to best present the content of the Insider investigative report on a Russian connection to Havana Syndrome. Two versions have been proposed, and we seek wider community input on which should be included in the article. The discussion has raised concerns about the due weight of content relating to allegations of secret weapons use by Russian military intelligence's GRU Unit 29155.

Version 2.1:

On March 31, 2024, The Insider, in collaboration with 60 Minutes and Der Spiegel, published an investigative report reigniting speculation that hostile Russian action was responsible for the syndrome.^[1]^[2] The Kremlin Press Secretary dismissed the report as "nothing more than baseless, unfounded accusations by the media." In response to the report, the White House Press Secretary said that a "foreign adversary is very unlikely." Following the report, several U.S. Senators, including Susan Collins, Jeanne Shaheen, and Mark Warner, sent a letter to the President calling for further investigation into the cause of the anomalous health incidents.

Version 3.1:

On March 31 2024, The Insider, in collaboration with 60 Minutes and Der Spiegel, published an investigative report claiming that the syndrome was caused by actions of Russian military intelligence.^[1]^[2]^[3] The report states that members of the GRU Unit 29155, known for undertaking foreign operations^[2], received awards and promotions for work related to the development and deployment of "non-lethal acoustic weapons", and that telephone and travel data pinpointing the locations of these agents correlated with the timings and locations of Havana Syndrome incidents worldwide.^[4]^[5]^[6]

The Kremlin Press Secretary dismissed the report as "nothing more than baseless, unfounded accusations by the media."^[1] In response to the report, the White House Press Secretary said that a "foreign adversary is very unlikely."^[7]

Following the report, in a letter addressed to the President several U.S. Senators called for further investigations into the causes of the anomalous health incidents.^[8]

Please provide your opinions and rationale for supporting either version 2.1 or 3.1 and please ensure your responses are based on Wikipedia's content policies and guidelines. (FailedMusician (talk) 02:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:SpaceX Starship flight tests

Hi everyone, this RfC is to retrieve consensus regarding the addition of mission outcome to the Orbital/Intergated launch wikitable, as well as adding the associated chart in the same section.

Context: IFT-3 has ben the subject of confusion and debate here in Wikipedia. The confusion between Launch outcome and Mission outcome has led editors to think of the two as one, despite those being different things. This article also doesn't show the launch outcome alongside mission outcome, meaning editors and readers alike might see the green "success" entry in the launch column/chart and believe the mission succeded, not reading the other text to learn that the mission wasn't a full success. This factor will lead to confusion among Wikipedia editors, and confused editors can't properly write a wiki.

The question: Should we list the mission outcome as clearly as we list the launch outcome?

If you wish to dispute this RfC, please raise your concerns over at the appropriate WP:DRN and WP:PUMP noticeboards. You may also bring this discussion up at WP:DfD and WP:AN, and if all discussions go wrong or end up with no real result, you can contact the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee. But bear in mind, contacting the Arbitration Committee is a last resort option that should not be done for minor reasons, so only contact them if the discussions go very wrong. Thanks, 179.251.80.181 (talk) 22:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

^ ^a ^b ^c https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-dismisses-report-russia-behind-havana-syndrome-2024-04-01/
^ ^a ^b ^c "Havana syndrome: Report links mystery illness to Russian intelligence unit". www.bbc.com. Retrieved 2024-04-02.
^ Cite error: The named reference guardian-report was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Cite error: The named reference Dobrokhotov was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Cite error: The named reference :3 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Cite error: The named reference SpiegelMarch2024 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Cite error: The named reference us-not-moved was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Chasan, Aliza (2024-04-17). "Senators call for renewed Havana Syndrome assessment after 60 Minutes report - CBS News". www.cbsnews.com. Retrieved 2024-04-24.

[kremlin-dismisses-1] ttps://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-dismisses-report-russia-behind-havana-syndrome-2024-04-01/

[:4-2] "Havana syndrome: Report links mystery illness to Russian intelligence unit". www.bbc.com. Retrieved 2024-04-02.

[guardian-report-3] Cite error: The named reference guardian-report was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[Dobrokhotov-4] Cite error: The named reference Dobrokhotov was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[:3-5] Cite error: The named reference :3 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[SpiegelMarch2024-6] Cite error: The named reference SpiegelMarch2024 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[us-not-moved-7] Cite error: The named reference us-not-moved was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[letter-request-senators-8] Chasan, Aliza (2024-04-17). "Senators call for renewed Havana Syndrome assessment after 60 Minutes report - CBS News". www.cbsnews.com. Retrieved 2024-04-24.

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+The RfC resolves primarily around this diff: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aidi&diff=1224350851&oldid=1224349117] and whether the origin of the breed should be listed as Morocco or North Africa (or any alternative location). [[User:Traumnovelle|Traumnovelle]] ([[User talk:Traumnovelle|talk]]) 06:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)}}
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+Should the "Controversies and incidents" section contain a section on Israel votes and media reports in connection to this which relate to more individuals than expected or individuals which would not usually have voted. [[User:PicturePerfect666|PicturePerfect666]] ([[User talk:PicturePerfect666|talk]]) 16:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)}}
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+Should this article's [[WP:LEDE|lede]] mention controversies that arose surrounding the song contest? If yes, please explain to what extent, i.e. should it mention that there were controversies in general or should any specific controversies be detailed?
+Please note that as a prominent controversy is related to the Israel-Hamas war, it is subject to [[WP:ARBECR]]. Accordingly, '''accounts with fewer than 500 edits and 30 days' tenure may not participate'''. Any comment violating ARBECR may be removed by any editor, and '''edit warring will not be tolerated'''. Please keep the discussion respectful: comment on the matter in question, not on other editors. Thank you. [[User:Ivanvector|Ivanvector]] (<sup>[[User talk:Ivanvector|Talk]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Ivanvector|Edits]]</sub>) 13:38, 22 May 2024 (UTC)}}
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+Should Biden's building of a port to facilitate American aid to Palestinians be mentioned in the lead?
+* '''Option #1:''' No.
+* '''Option #2:''' Yes.
+* '''Option #3:''' Aid in general should be mentioned. Not the port itself.
+Does it merit inclusion? [[User:KlayCax|KlayCax]] ([[User talk:KlayCax|talk]]) 20:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)}}
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-The fourth paragraph of the lede currently contains the following sentence:<br>
-"In March 2022, The New York Times and The Washington Post reported that some of the emails found on the computer were authentic."<br>
+'''Context:''' IFT-3 has ben the subject of confusion and debate here in Wikipedia. The confusion between Launch outcome and Mission outcome has led editors to think of the two as one, despite those being different things. This article also doesn't show the launch outcome alongside mission outcome, meaning editors and readers alike might see the green "success" entry in the launch column/chart and believe the mission succeded, not reading the other text to learn that the mission wasn't a full success. This factor will lead to confusion among Wikipedia editors, and confused editors can't properly write a wiki.
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-'''[[Talk:Free Democratic Party (Germany)#rfc_940F768|Talk:Free Democratic Party (Germany)]]'''
+'''The question:''' Should we list the mission outcome as clearly as we list the launch outcome?
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-[[User:Prcc27|Prcc27]] ([[User talk:Prcc27|talk]]) 22:31, 19 April 2024 (UTC)}}
-'''[[Talk:Climate change#rfc_2957C75|Talk:Climate change]]'''
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-Which of the following sections should be used in the '''Food and health''' section?
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