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nn "agitator and theoretician" [[User:Zoe]]|[[User talk:Zoe|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 06:22, 26 November 2005 (UTC) |
nn "agitator and theoretician" [[User:Zoe]]|[[User talk:Zoe|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 06:22, 26 November 2005 (UTC) |
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*No. While not a celebrity this man is a participant of both a hugely important current event as well as a pathblazer in Iraq veteran military resistance. Imagine saying in the 70's that John Kerry (then only a member of Vietnam Veterans Against War) was unimportant. --[[User:Michan|Michan]] 07:01, 26 November 2005 (UTC) |
*No. While not a celebrity this man is a participant of both a hugely important current event as well as a pathblazer in Iraq veteran military resistance. Imagine saying in the 70's that John Kerry (then only a member of Vietnam Veterans Against War) was unimportant. --[[User:Michan|Michan]] 07:01, 26 November 2005 (UTC) |
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**Note to closing admins: Above poster clearly voted '''Keep''' - please add this to your tally. [[User:Zordrac|Zordrac]] [[User_talk:Zordrac|(talk)]] <small>[[M:AWWDMBJAWGCAWAIFDSPBATDMTD|Wishy Washy]] [[M:Darwikinism|Darwikinian]] [[M:Eventualism|Eventualist]]</small> 00:29, 3 December 2005 (UTC) |
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*I agree with the above poster, this article should not be deleted. --65.96.10.143, 2005-11-26 |
*I agree with the above poster, this article should not be deleted. --65.96.10.143, 2005-11-26 |
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**Note to closing admins: Above poster clearly voted '''Keep''' - please add this to your tally. [[User:Zordrac|Zordrac]] [[User_talk:Zordrac|(talk)]] <small>[[M:AWWDMBJAWGCAWAIFDSPBATDMTD|Wishy Washy]] [[M:Darwikinism|Darwikinian]] [[M:Eventualism|Eventualist]]</small> 00:29, 3 December 2005 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''', just some random non-notable bugger. Also can IP's even vote? [[User:Private Butcher|<font color="black">'''Quentin'''</font>]] [[user talk:Private Butcher|<font color="brown">'''Pierc'''</font>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">'''e'''</font>]] 06:49, 26 November 2005 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''', just some random non-notable bugger. Also can IP's even vote? [[User:Private Butcher|<font color="black">'''Quentin'''</font>]] [[user talk:Private Butcher|<font color="brown">'''Pierc'''</font>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">'''e'''</font>]] 06:49, 26 November 2005 (UTC) |
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**THey can vote (it's acutally "discuss") but the closing admin can discount them. [[User:Zoe]]|[[User talk:Zoe|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 07:03, 26 November 2005 (UTC) |
**THey can vote (it's acutally "discuss") but the closing admin can discount them. [[User:Zoe]]|[[User talk:Zoe|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 07:03, 26 November 2005 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep'''. A cursory google search comes up with plenty of references, so this guy clearly exists and most of the basic information in the article appears verifiable. Controversal? Yes. Biased? Yes. POV? Yes. But that just means the article needs work, not that it should be deleted. --[[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] 23:34, 26 November 2005 (UTC) |
*'''Keep'''. A cursory google search comes up with plenty of references, so this guy clearly exists and most of the basic information in the article appears verifiable. Controversal? Yes. Biased? Yes. POV? Yes. But that just means the article needs work, not that it should be deleted. --[[User:RoySmith|RoySmith]] 23:34, 26 November 2005 (UTC) |
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*'''Don't Delete'''. He's a locally well known veteran standing up for a cause he believes in. He's been on the news and has hundreds of google search results. The bandwidth/serverspace taken up by this guy is minimal and is defenitely worth the information. Anyways, this article looks like it has potentially. Also, the quote section is pretty funny. --[[User:FluteyFlakes88|FluteyFlakes88]] 23:49, 27 November 2005 (UTC) |
*'''Don't Delete'''. He's a locally well known veteran standing up for a cause he believes in. He's been on the news and has hundreds of google search results. The bandwidth/serverspace taken up by this guy is minimal and is defenitely worth the information. Anyways, this article looks like it has potentially. Also, the quote section is pretty funny. --[[User:FluteyFlakes88|FluteyFlakes88]] 23:49, 27 November 2005 (UTC) |
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**Note to closing admins: Above user clearly voted '''Keep''' - please add this to your tally [[User:Zordrac|Zordrac]] [[User_talk:Zordrac|(talk)]] <small>[[M:AWWDMBJAWGCAWAIFDSPBATDMTD|Wishy Washy]] [[M:Darwikinism|Darwikinian]] [[M:Eventualism|Eventualist]]</small> 00:29, 3 December 2005 (UTC) |
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**User's only edit. [[User:Zoe]]|[[User talk:Zoe|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 00:07, 28 November 2005 (UTC) |
**User's only edit. [[User:Zoe]]|[[User talk:Zoe|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 00:07, 28 November 2005 (UTC) |
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***Actually I've worked on quite a few pages before but never bothered to use a username until now. I was prompted to register one becuase of your comment above about how ip's can't vote. For a two paragraph article you seem to care quite a bit that this gets deleted. --[[User:24.60.246.181|24.60.246.181]] 02:11, 28 November 2005 (UTC) |
***Actually I've worked on quite a few pages before but never bothered to use a username until now. I was prompted to register one becuase of your comment above about how ip's can't vote. For a two paragraph article you seem to care quite a bit that this gets deleted. --[[User:24.60.246.181|24.60.246.181]] 02:11, 28 November 2005 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' - blogger with fairly weak [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Sholom+Keller%22&btnG=Google+Search Google hits]. Also the sock puppet voting isn't helping my opinion either. [[User:HackJandy|HackJandy]] 07:05, 28 November 2005 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' - blogger with fairly weak [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Sholom+Keller%22&btnG=Google+Search Google hits]. Also the sock puppet voting isn't helping my opinion either. [[User:HackJandy|HackJandy]] 07:05, 28 November 2005 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' - has interviews, is notable (P.S. I changed the 3 above "don't deletes" and "no" votes to "keep" to aid in counting). Its important for the sake of balance to include people like this. So that the encyclopaedia overall conforms with [[WP:POV]]. [[User:Zordrac|Zordrac]] 12:54, 1 December 2005 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' - has interviews, is notable (P.S. I changed the 3 above "don't deletes" and "no" votes to "keep" to aid in counting). Its important for the sake of balance to include people like this. So that the encyclopaedia overall conforms with [[WP:POV]]. [[User:Zordrac|Zordrac]] 12:54, 1 December 2005 (UTC) |
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=====Note to closing admins:===== |
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3 users voted "No", "I agree with the above" and "Do not delete". These should be counted as "Keep". I added "Keep" to their vote to avoid confusion in tallying, but this has been amended by Splash, so am making a note to ensure accuracy in tallying the votes. [[User:Zordrac|Zordrac]] [[User_talk:Zordrac|(talk)]] <small>[[M:AWWDMBJAWGCAWAIFDSPBATDMTD|Wishy Washy]] [[M:Darwikinism|Darwikinian]] [[M:Eventualism|Eventualist]]</small> 00:29, 3 December 2005 (UTC) |
Revision as of 00:35, 3 December 2005
nn "agitator and theoretician" User:Zoe|(talk) 06:22, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- No. While not a celebrity this man is a participant of both a hugely important current event as well as a pathblazer in Iraq veteran military resistance. Imagine saying in the 70's that John Kerry (then only a member of Vietnam Veterans Against War) was unimportant. --Michan 07:01, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with the above poster, this article should not be deleted. --65.96.10.143, 2005-11-26
- Delete, just some random non-notable bugger. Also can IP's even vote? Quentin Pierce 06:49, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- THey can vote (it's acutally "discuss") but the closing admin can discount them. User:Zoe|(talk) 07:03, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- Speedy A7. NSLE (讨论+extra) 08:30, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - completely lacking in unbiased source material. --דוד ♣ D Monack 10:47, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- Weak delete - just because the article looks pretty neat Renata3 22:15, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. A cursory google search comes up with plenty of references, so this guy clearly exists and most of the basic information in the article appears verifiable. Controversal? Yes. Biased? Yes. POV? Yes. But that just means the article needs work, not that it should be deleted. --RoySmith 23:34, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
- Don't Delete. He's a locally well known veteran standing up for a cause he believes in. He's been on the news and has hundreds of google search results. The bandwidth/serverspace taken up by this guy is minimal and is defenitely worth the information. Anyways, this article looks like it has potentially. Also, the quote section is pretty funny. --FluteyFlakes88 23:49, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
- User's only edit. User:Zoe|(talk) 00:07, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- Actually I've worked on quite a few pages before but never bothered to use a username until now. I was prompted to register one becuase of your comment above about how ip's can't vote. For a two paragraph article you seem to care quite a bit that this gets deleted. --24.60.246.181 02:11, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- Just done some research and I think Zoe has a personal bias against this article. Seeing as this guy is anti-war and a self proclaimed anarchist, and Zoe declared that Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mussolini are "heroes"... Decide for yourself though what his motivations are. --24.60.246.181 02:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- Your "research" is highly flawed. I never said any such thing. I said that some people consider them heroes. My motive has solely to do with the lack of notability of this person, whose views I personally support. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:08, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- If that's really the case then fair enough. --24.60.246.181 03:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- User's only edit. User:Zoe|(talk) 00:07, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - blogger with fairly weak Google hits. Also the sock puppet voting isn't helping my opinion either. HackJandy 07:05, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- Keep - has interviews, is notable (P.S. I changed the 3 above "don't deletes" and "no" votes to "keep" to aid in counting). Its important for the sake of balance to include people like this. So that the encyclopaedia overall conforms with WP:POV. Zordrac 12:54, 1 December 2005 (UTC)