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Hi Steve, I'm Su Min and am currently working on the Singapore International Energy Week 2011 event. I'm still a n00b in terms of editing Wikipedia pages, so while I see I am able to make edits on the page, wanted to check what I needed to run by the page editor first and what edits I may be able to make on my own.

As we start working on SIEW 2011, wanted to check on the below edits:

1. Create a new section on SIEW 2011 - to include facts such as the dates of the event and the events held during the week.

2. Under the 2010 section, the description starts with Panasonic being listed in the first line as a sponsor - being cognizant that it does seem rather promotional, does it make sense to move that line to the end of the section?

3. In the box on the right side, are we able to include an external link (saw this in other Wiki pages) that points to the SIEW official website? http://singapore.iew.com.sg/

4. Intro paragraph refers to SIEW as "an energy conference for interested parties". Would it be possible to make this more specific and describe SIEW as a conference for "policymakers, thought leaders, academics and industry professionals on issues centred around the smart energy economy and corresponding actions needed to build a sustainable future in Asia and the rest of the world"?

5. We have photos from the SIEW 2010 event (copyright belongs to us) - are we able to put these up? Won't be promotional in nature - more general event shots.

Greatly appreciate your help while I learn more about being part of the Wikipedia community. Hope to hear from you soon, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssumin (talk • contribs) 13:18, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Su Min, and thanks for contacting me. Firstly, anyone can add anything to an article (it's not my article! In response to your specific queries above:

1. Yes, this would be OK - but it will need references. This should be ideally at a reliable independent source (such as a newspaper), but initially your own website could be OK. However, an independent source (which is reliable) would be preferred.
2. I have re-jiggled it slightly. I do not believe that this information is overtly promotional - and I have no connection with either SIEW or Panasonic!
3. I have added the official website to the infobox
4. To be honest, I feel that the current text explains that there are political, commercial and academic involvement, and that it's about key issues within the energy industry. Your suggested wording looks (to me) like "ad-speak". However, we can discuss a compromise, perhaps?
5. To add photographs would be possible, but you need to read "Donating copyrighted materials", which explains the conditions under which materials are donated, and how to give permission. It is important to realise that any images which are donated can be re-used by anyone for any purpose whatsoever (including commercial) - you can request that they are attributed to you, but you cannot stop them being used.

A couple of other points: firstly, I must plead ignorance, and ask whether "Su" is your given name or your family name? In future, I'd like to use your first name, but I wouldn't want to use the wrong one! Secondly, you might want to read Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines - you shouldn't have any problems, as it is obvious from what you have said that you want to be neutral and non-promotional!

If you have any other queries, please feel free to contact me - I have been helping Matthew Lim with the previous events being added to the article, so you might want to also liase with him! Regards, PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 06:18, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Steve - many thanks for your feedback and the edits made! Let us work on a draft of the other edits we're thinking of - will share it with you for review first before making any changes.

Anyway, my given name is Su Min and family name is Sng, so just call me Su Min. :) We did get some advice from Matthew on working on this article as well as looked at the past correspondence wrt this article. Will read up on the Wikipedia guidelines too - in the meantime, greatly appreciate your help and advice! 202.90.250.22 (talk) 04:22, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Steve,

1. Noted on your comments about need for references before creating a SIEW 2011 section. Hence we will not do this at least until the official website itself is refreshed with more complete information.
2. If there are no issues with you, may I go ahead and delete the line on Panasonic being a sponsor in the 2010 section? Reason we'd like to delete it - sponsors not mentioned in the previous years, so we'd like to be consistent and as neutral as possible. (Aside: is this considered a minor edit that I can go ahead and make without bothering you?)
3. Thanks for being open to a compromise on the intro line. To make it a little more specific on the issues discussed at the conference (while trying to avoid ad speak), how about this: "SIEW is an annual week-long energy conference for businesses, industry experts, policy makers and academia to come together and discuss sustainable solutions for the global energy crisis."
4. Regarding photos, does it work to link to the official SIEW Flickr account, so that Wikipedia readers know where to go to view event photos? Or is the only way of putting photos on the Wiki page via uploading the photos on Wikimedia Commons?

Once again, many thanks for your help and advice on this. :) Ssumin (talk) 14:43, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Su Min, I will look at your points above in the next couple of days, and get back to you! PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 18:08, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Steve, just wondering if you've had a chance to review the above yet? Many thanks! Ssumin (talk) 08:45, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry, life has been busy....

OK, here are my thoughts:

1. That sounds perfect!
2. I'd keep the reference to Panasonic - there is a reference. If you want to add the previous sponsors (I never found mention of any, that's why I didn't add them to the article), then they can be added, but will need references
3. That sounds like a perfect compromise - you can change that, or I will when I get a chance to in a few days!
4. You could certainly add an external link to the Flickr page - although others might argue that it is promotional, I'd certainly not think so. If anyone objects, let me know and I'll discuss it with them! You would not be able to upload them, as they are all clearly labelled on the Flickr account as "© All rights reserved" - and there are also too many to upload to put in the article!

I hope that answers your queries, but feel free to come back and pester ask me more! I am always happy to help, it's part of my job as an admin and fellow editor PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 12:37, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Steve. I've edited the intro line as agreed - my first wiki edit ever made. :) Some other points:

1. Tried to include the SIEW official Flickr account to the 'external links' section, however this was "reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline from Wikipedia". Any workarounds? Know I can undo this edit, but don't want to do anything 'illegal'.
2. Number of participants stated in the infobox is 5,000. Can I update this to the latest figure of 14,000, as stated in the 2010 section?
3. Know you have no issues with sponsor mentions. But ok if I removed the Panasonic reference? We hadn't included sponsor mentions in previous years and it does seem biased to have only one sponsor mentioned.

Thanks for being open to me pestering checking in with you on edits and feedback! Have a great weekend. Ssumin (talk) 08:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A quick reply before I get ready for work...

1. If you try again, it should work - the 'bot only removes it once. If it doesn't let you, let me know.
2. Definitely you can change that, as the information is in the sources I used in the 2010 section!
3. I do not think you should remove the reference. I'd prefer you to find a reference to the previous sponsors - who were the sponsors for the first 2 by the way?

Regards, PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:32, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Steve. I've edited the number of participants in the infobox and added the Flickr URL to the external links section.

I think the issue with the sponsor mention is that it isn't full representative. For example, besides Panasonic, Accenture was also a platinum sponsor for SIEW 2010. And there was a whole list of other sponsors and partners too. So to keep it neutral, thought it would make sense to remove the sponsor mention, rather than add a whole paragraph on sponsors and partners. Is there any particular issue with removing the sponsor reference? Just wanted to understand this better, as I really did think that removing it made the article more neutral.

As always, many thanks for your help! Ssumin (talk) 14:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(Update to above message) Hi Steve, all the edits I've previously made have been reverted by Orangemike, citing "reverting series of seriously COI entries by SIEW employee". Know Wikipedia entries are meant to be neutral/ non-promotional - in line with that, I've been transparent that I'm working on SIEW 2011 and also making sure to check back with you on any edits made. Hence may I trouble you to discuss this issue with Orangemike and see if the factual edits we've made so far can be restored?

Really appreciate if you could advise on how to move forward from here. Many thanks, Steve - grateful for all your help and guidance. Ssumin (talk) 14:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've been a bit busy lately, but I will look into this next week - I'm working all weekend - and will get back to you PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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