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Wow, you can type in Lao? It will be good to have someone here who can do that. Badagnani (talk) 08:36, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I am only a student of the language, but it seems desperately unrepresented here. Mostly I work over at Wiktionary, so I have a particular pleasure in linking up foreign-language words if it seems helpful. If there are pages you want me to look at, please feel free to let me know! Widsith (talk) 16:52, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:96.229.179.106 seems to be on a counter-offensive against you, inserting Vietnamese into a host of articles about Chinese districts. DHN (talk) 17:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt they have anything to do with Vietnam. I've seen some located in Hebei province. DHN (talk) 18:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look. But its simply the dried crusty layer of rice from cooking rice in a wok over direct heat. Sjschen (talk) 20:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not too sure, fact is most of the east asian cultures consume many of the same things. While few consider it to be a dish on its own, it is a item that is used in Chinese cuisine, and commonly served with soups or stews. In fact, the stuff is commercially manufactured in China due to demand. Sjschen (talk) 21:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll let you do the honours since you we first to find this info :) Sjschen (talk) 02:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Guoba Sjschen (talk) 03:23, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/smalldapan/446722183/ is probably the best. Sjschen (talk) 03:57, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jewelchang/2041191780/ is probably more representative of "tradition" guoba though. Sjschen (talk) 03:58, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That should be okay, though it would be great if we got both of the above pictures Sjschen (talk) 04:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Really, the CJK versions of this scorched rice food is all the same. Should we just make one article for it instead of having three? Sjschen (talk) 01:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe start a gallery? btw why do you think zhajiang mian and Jajangmyeon should be different articles? Really they are the same thing but with minor regional variations. No? Sjschen (talk) 21:09, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it all depends on the perception of differences, but I guess it's something that can be debated forever and ever. Merging the articles in these cases can becomes rather political and "heated", such as referring sushi as "Japanese Gimbap" or gimbap as "Korean sushi". With that in mind, what should this guoba/nurungji article be called then? Sjschen (talk) 21:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ANI#Long time abusing Wikipedia by Japanese editors from 2channel meat/sock puppets

Hi, Badagnani, I just come to inform you that you have been exposed to 2channel, Japanese famous bulletin board. Unfortunately, many Japanese editors seem to have abused Wikipedia with the threads for a long time. The discussion set up three days ago, but I let you know of this now. You remember the fruit revert warring around Korean fruits? That case is also related to this matter. Azukimonaka (talk · contribs) has been indefinitely blocked for his abusive sockpuppetry and you had met him to discuss Japanese or Korean cuisine related articles several times or his supposedly past socks. I translated some of information regarding you, but the threads are too many, so if you have a time to look at it, please visit the links listed there. I also add the diff in case you come to the page much later. If it is archived, you would find it in No. 380 or 381. Or use Special:Whatlinkshere Thanks. --Appletrees (talk) 02:04, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you're mentioned a lot because you have been editing Korean related article a lot especially on Korean cuisine and culture which are Azukimonaka and other sock/meats' interests (?). If you leave your thought on this to the ANI, I would appreciate your response more. Thanks. --Appletrees (talk) 10:35, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. I'm curious why you rolled back my revert on Long Xuyen. I had previously removed the WP:NN folks that were redlinks (per WP:BIO) and noted that in my edit summary. An anon IP had restored them. and I addressed that on his/her talk page. Toddst1 (talk) 01:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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No one writes 'Karnatak Sangeetha' in South Indian Languages. All write either "Karnataka Sangeetha' or 'Karnataka Sangeetham', I am not sure how 'Karnatak' came to English. I think accuracy in representing information using original word is more important than popularity. E.g. use of Indian words Anecut, Bungalow in English. Please post the details with evidences that why you think 'Karnatak' has to be included in the Carnatic Music Article. Also please give the reason why you deleted all corrections instead of adding 'Karnatak'. I will modify my future edits based on your response. Thanks.Naadapriya (talk) 10:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The evidence is above. Most of the primary ethnomusicologists focusing on this music use the term to refer to the music. Thus, it needs to be included. Changes should be made very gradually and there was no consensus for the large set of changes implemented earlier. We can change each thing deliberately once there is consensus. Badagnani (talk) 17:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the input. The new edit includes 'Karnatak'. The changes are very moderate and they have been discussed by 6-7 editors in detail since Feb 3, 2008. And all changes are strongly inter dependent and needed same time. The edits do not change the current template. Therefore further changes with discussions and consensus should be be made through edits. Sorry for the inadvertent typo of your name in the edit summary. I have fixed it with redirect.Naadapriya (talk) 09:34, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your justification is not clear for recent 'undo'. I have included your suggestion of adding ' Karnatak'. The template is there since beginning and I have followed it. It is not clear why you are using 'Undo' of my edits to fix an issue that is nothing to do with my consensus based edit. New format issue is an item to discuss than 'Undo' unrelated valid edits.Naadapriya (talk) 21:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed your discussions. Still I cannot find a valid objective evidence regarding 'Karnatak' by west accepted by Karnataka (Carnatic) music scholars. Please identify if you have already posted it. Otherwise please provide one with evidence that it is a scholarly article at least recognized by a reputed University that has department of Karnataka (Carnatic) music.Naadapriya (talk) 21:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to message posted on Naadapripya's talk page: The revised lead paragraph was concise. It is important to tell readers about different names that the original name 'Karnataka Sangeetha' has. Also article is for all Wikipedia users not just for ethnomusicologists. Answer to previous comment about scholarly evidence is still needed to continue constructive editing.Naadapriya (talk) 22:35, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to message posted on Naadapripya's talk page: My edits are nothing to do with 'etymology'. The current article that you were also involved for long time in editing does not have a section on 'etymology'. You never brought up the issue in discussions. Also many other articles do not have 'etymology' section. The names quoted in the first paragraph are names used in parallel today which readers need to know in the very beginning. Except for the original name 'Karnataka Sangeetha' no one knows how other names came. Neither you have provided any scholarly evidence to date unless I have somehow missed it. If you think an 'Entomology section is needed then you should discuss not execute unrelated 'undo' of my edit. Still I do not understand the purpose behind your 'Undo' of my edits. With 'undo' now the article is left with incorrect statements contradicting the real evidences and it is giving wrong information to readers. Your random undos arestalling the progress towards posting accurate information. Please stop such 'undo'.Naadapriya (talk) 08:30, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Answer to earlier inquiry about scholarly evidence is still needed to continue constructive editing.Naadapriya (talk) 08:30, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reply does not answer why 'undo' my edit which is not related etymology. Also please identify the correct reference for real evidence since many current ones in the article as identified by others editors are weasels.Naadapriya (talk) 09:04, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Still reply does not answer why 'undo' my edit which is not related etymology. Saying 'Absolutely' without giving specifics is a vague answer. Also please identify the correct reference for real evidence since many current ones in the article as identified by others editors are weasels. Please read discussions.Naadapriya (talk) 09:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All looking good :-) I added the definite article to the Arabic name because I seem to be getting more google hits with it. — Zerida ☥ 23:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, it's the name of the qanun player. It would be spelled Fahmy Awad, BTW. — Zerida ☥ 23:41, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, your Arabic seems quite good to me. With regard to Awad, while he himself was Egyptian and the ensemble here is done in distinctly Egyptian style, I don't believe the singer is and the scene doesn't look very familiar. My earlier google search indicated that Awad had helped set up the Tunisian orchestra in the 60s, so the clip may be of a performance from there. — Zerida ☥ 19:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update, Badagnani. I will certainly defer to Prof. El-Dabh here :-) — Zerida ☥ 02:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've listed an arbitration case under this tentative name to resolve the longstanding conflict basically surrounding this issue. This is a message to inform you that you're listed a party there. Maxim_(talk) 00:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if I could convince you to restore my edit which removed the list of genres from the lead in this article. Here's why I think my way is better. First of all, lists like that here (in Wikipedia in general) are always contentious things and tend to attract disproportionate amounts of flotsam and jetsam, as every passing editor wants to add their favorite item that simply must be in that list. Second, what I wrote was absolutely true: that the bass is used in many genres of popular and folk music world-wide. Notice I didn't claim that it's used in all genres, or that it's widely used in many modern types of music (which it isn't, as you correctly pointed out, compared to the electric bass). I'll watch here and see what you have to say about this. +ILike2BeAnonymous (talk) 23:58, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is, I think that list does cover the bases as far as "popular" genres go. Badagnani (talk) 00:02, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But what about folk genres? other traditional types of music? Do you see the problem? Someone will always be able to come along and say "but such-and-such isn't listed here, so I'll add it". Better to keep it general than invite an endless stream of additions. +ILike2BeAnonymous (talk) 00:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have eaten it but am not sure if it's in Vietnamese cuisine. It's called "tôm khô" (dried shrimp). DHN (talk) 03:54, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, ga is the Vietnamese word for "train station", derived from the French gare. DHN (talk) 10:02, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to be Boletus felleus. DHN (talk) 10:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bacopa monnieri seems to be called "rau đắng biển" (sea bitter herb) in Vietnamese. I think the more well-known version of "rau đắng" in Vietnamese is grown in people's back yards, not near the ocean, I'm not sure if it's applicable to Bacopa monnieri. By the way, it seems that this picture is of "rau đắng", not rau rang as the caption suggests. DHN (talk) 10:39, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

She has 4 names because her parents can afford 4 names (seriously...richer people like to give longer names to their daughters). Since she is known by the stage name Phuong Vy, I guess she should be sorted as such. DHN (talk) 23:44, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The name is a single unit. Think of it as something like "Ma-don-na" DHN (talk) 23:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sort it under "Phuong Vy". DHN (talk) 00:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like it's also known as "cải ná". I doubt rổ is a Sino-Vietnamese word; as with most food influenced by Cantonese immigrants, they are rarely known by their literary names. DHN (talk) 07:28, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rổ means "basket"; I think in this case it's a corruption of some Cantonese term. DHN (talk) 07:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Badagnani, I don't like putting sources on a subpage. As we're saying right now at Talk:Waterboarding, hardly anyone bothers to read the sources--putting them on a supage makes it that much more unlikely that anyone will look at them.

One thing that occurs to me is that we could create Talk:Waterboarding/Sources, which could then be transcluded onto the main talk page. That way there would be no risk that the sources get archived, they would be visible on the main talk page, and we could have a numbering system. What do you think of that? --Akhilleus (talk) 03:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Tamil page is not an article, it is a disambiguation page. I am not sure that the WikiProject banner belongs on its talk page. There is enough problem with people putting all sorts of irrelevant material on the disambiguation page. Think about it. --Bejnar (talk) 07:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sinseollo is a variety of jeongol, although it has also various derivatives. Jeongol is a generic term encompassing elaborated stews cooked in a specific pot. --Appletrees (talk) 15:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jeongol is not even mentioned in the text of jeongol What do you mean by this? You mistyped jeongol with sinseollo ? You can add the information if you like. Whenever I remove your hidden comment on articles, you write "blanking", so I explained the reason in advance. --Appletrees (talk) 19:08, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've slightly expanded it and did some wikification. I also uploaded an image from one his books al-Maqamat. I only used two reference though. --Al Ameer son (talk) 20:31, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The painter. --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:22, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was the 43d edition. --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is the entire written source from the image's caption in Brittanica Encyclopedia: "Discussion near a village, from the 43rd maqāmah of the Maqāmāt (“Assemblies”) of al-Ḥarīrī, miniature painted by Yaḥyā ibn Maḥmūd al-Wāsiṭī, 1237; in the Bibliothèque Nationale, Paris." --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:52, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Really, thats great! Do I need to know how to write in Arabic though? --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much, I was about to ask you for the link. I'll be sure to install it immediately. Shukran ktheer! --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect, lets add it. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its been changed. Also, do you have any idea why adding the Arabic translation of al-Hariri make incompatible with the years of his birth and death? --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Sarsi (drink). DHN (talk) 01:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Believe it or not, the common word for "motorcycle" in Vietnamese is "Honda". This is an example of a genericized trademark. DHN (talk) 01:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I take it back. I am not aware of any word that corresponds to "root beer". According to vi.wiki, "xá xị" can mean several things:

• A name of several plants in the genus Sassafras
• The name of Smilax regelii
• The name of Aralia nudicaulis
• The soft drink made from Smilax regelii; a corruption from the Cantonese. DHN (talk) 02:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I asked around, the name used is indeed "xá xị". It's also known as "Thums Up", a brand name of a Coca-Cola product that has appeared in Vietnam in the past 2 years[1]. The dictionary definition you found is a description of what it is ("soft drink made from tree roots"), since there is no direct equivalence. DHN (talk) 16:41, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The word "nước" in "nước xá xị" is acting as a classifier. DHN (talk) 15:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the Thai Malay talk page for discussion....Thanks.Mr Tan (talk) 06:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate you making the image request :) If that edit hadn't show up on my watchlist, I would have never remembered to check commons to see that this image was uploaded about two weeks back. Once again, thanks! Puchiko (Talk-email) 19:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The edit in question is [2]. Puchiko (Talk-email) 19:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice picture that you added! WriterHound (talk) 16:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Give me one good reason for including those characters, please. Tony (talk) 00:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm keen to explore different ways of doing this, since (1) including inline non-Latin text is disruptive to the reader and looks messy on the screen—certainly to the extent that is done so in that article; (2) non-Latin text is totally inaccessible to all but a tiny minority of English-speakers; and (3) is of questionable use even to those who do read Chinese. Some editors, you may have guessed, decide to do this to the hilt, providing the original where there's highly questionable utility even in searching on the Internet for an item, or verifying it in the original language.

Why is it not preferable to give a glossary at the bottom of the article, listing the Chinese character equivalents for some of the items used in the main text? Read the version I created and seriously ask yourself whether that, or your gobbleygook, crowded, messy, foreign-looking version, will make more sense to all but the chosen few who speak and read Chinese.

Another issue is that the pinyin and audio representations are provided without saying which Chinese language they are in: while Putonghua may be the default, hardly any non-expert readers will know that. Tony (talk) 01:35, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You haven't said why any of the Chinese characters should clutter the text, rather than being sequestered in their own section at the bottom. And while they might be useful for you, you are one in a half a million users. Think of others, particularly the generalist readers. Or perhaps you intend that only experts read this text? Tony (talk) 01:49, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Badagnani - I have reverted your edit to Hiroshima (band) - neither AsianAmerican-stub or LosAngeles-stub is appropriate for a stub on a band. No other bands have stubs relating to either the race of the people involved (imagine the huge number of bands which would flood any stub category for African-Americans. Bands are only stubbed according to either genre or nationality. Neither are bands stubbed according to the city in which they are based, unless their location is officially sanctioned/supported by local authorities (e.g., Anaheim Brass Band, City of Los Angeles Symphony Orchestra). A jazz band should be stubbed only with the appropriate nationality-band-stub and genre-band-stub. Grutness...wha? 06:28, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please try to understand why stubs are sorted the way they are before mindlessly reverting an incorrect stubbing. Also, please realise that part of the reason for the removal was the deletion of {{Los Angeles-stub}}, per the decision at WP:SFD. You might like to check Category:Asian American stubs and Category:Los Angeles stubs, where you will see that no other bands are stubbed in this way. This article should NOT get AsianAmerican-stub, nor should it get LosAngeles-stub. Grutness...wha? 06:44, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I respectfully disagree. Asian American bands are a rarified item, and the purpose of stubs is to bring editors with a particular interest or expertise to articles which they may improve. African American bands are just not comparable, because Asian American bands are so much less numerous. This is why blanket rules such as you are reverting (more blindly than I) are often not helpful to our project. The discussion page was the proper place to ask for the removal of the stubs through calm discussion, not reversion and use of all capital letters in edit summaries.

What you're discussing is the use of a stub template for something for which it is not intended. Stub templates aren't meant to be for the benefit of the search by a specific WikiProject - that's what talk-page banner templates are for. If you wish the article to be listed by your wikiproject, I'd suggest using them - something that is already done, if the talk page is anything to go by. Stub templates are intended for use across Wikipedia by all editors, and as such are intended to be as uniform as possible for that reason. Which means that yes, African-American bands are exactly comparable, irrespective of numbers. So use an Asian-American banner template for your wikiproject on the talk page (which is appropriate), but don't use AsianAmerican-stub on the article itself (which isn't). As to using capital letters in edit summaries, I have not done so, as a quick check of the history of that article, its talk page, and this talk page, will show. Grutness...wha? 07:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds right. I've heard of "xá xíu" and "síu mại" but have no idea what they are. DHN (talk) 08:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it fits more with shaomai; the only place where I've seen it used is "banh minh siu mai". DHN (talk) 18:12, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I just created Hans Hickmann and wonder if you know in which neighborhood of Cairo 1 Seket El Fadl was located in the 1940s. Badagnani (talk) 20:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to this reference ^[1] it is in Downtown Cairo and according to this one ^[2] it is near the French consulate, hope this will be of help--Ghaly (talk) 22:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC).[reply]

That t'rưng photo I took in a rong house (in Vietnam Museum of Ethnology) of Bahnar people. According to this article in Vietnamese Wikipedia, T'rưng is a musical instrument of many ethic groups in Tay Nguyen, especially by Gia Rai and Bahnar. I fixed my mistake in that picture's desciption.--Bình Giang (talk) 04:50, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Seems to be mai vàng (5 petals). Mai núi (Ochna integerrima (lour.)Merr.) has between 5 and 9 petals. DHN (talk) 05:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed your {{move}} template from the above category, as category moves are not handled by WP:RM. If you are interested in moving this category, please complete the procedure as outlined at WP:CFR. JPG-GR (talk) 19:30, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have once again removed this tag. In order for a category to be moved (actually, renamed), you have to follow the procedure as outlined at WP:CFR. JPG-GR (talk) 19:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, can you help me create an article about Faggala? Badagnani (talk) 19:53, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you confirm that 22 Malika Nazly Street (where the Congres du Caire was held) is in Faggala? Badagnani (talk) 19:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This ref ^[1] gives it as Ramses street and the area where it was hel is part of Azbakeya , will try to hel with Faggala--Ghaly (talk) 20:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

the old word for journey in Arabic is سفرة and you can check it in the dictionary as for the conference that was held in the duilding that is still standing in Ramsis street and that is about three hundred metres from Azbakeya police station in Downtown Cairo, best wishes--Ghaly (talk) 21:04, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

سفرة is pronounced as Safrah or Safratan depending on circumstances , maybe your word is more accurate , but this is the word I knew , best wishes , --Ghaly (talk) 21:09, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. It does currently mention at the end of the previous paragraph that Cage was a student of Cowell's during the era. Do you have a source that states Cage specifically took the "Music of the World's Peoples" course (and perhaps specifically where)? Best, Dan.—DCGeist (talk) 07:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man, what's up?! look, i was hoping you could help me a little with the Eftekasat article! Any suggestions would be more than welcome... thanks anyway! Maged M. Mahfouz (talk) 17:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

lol, ok! thanks anyway man! :) Maged M. Mahfouz (talk) 18:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Badagnani. The "Bibliography" you moved to "Films" is actually a documentary video made in 2000. Choi Seung-hee did appear in films, and those should rightly go in a "Filmography" section. I think the documentary is more of a source/reference/bibliography though, and not really a "Choi Seung-hee" film. Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 23:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Here is my gift for you. Please support Tibet and Tibetan people. Please share this image to your friends. Good luck!

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 19:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You shockpuppet of Han tu, I already tell you that I don't listen to your dirty words, You don't scare me, who do you think you are. If you want me to stop then you have to stop adding ugly Han tu into Vietnamese-related articles.

And you did the same thing as I do, you also reverted the same edit many time. JacquesNguyen (talk) 04:12, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tell me why my edit in Vietnam in the time of the Second World War doesn't make sense. It's written in perfect English. JacquesNguyen (talk) 04:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you upload the rectangle picture in here into wikipedia with the name as Image:Carve images on Dong Son Bronze drums.jpg (or you can use this). Bugeaud (talk) 05:46, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved a ton of dishes from the Category:Chinese cuisine into their respective cuisine. Please do not move them back. I am basically trying to organize them some more. Before, everything was lumped into one category. I am still no where close to done. I'll continue it later. Basically the Chinese cuisine category shouldn't have dish items. Benjwong (talk) 05:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Badagnani. Your edit taking back the lead to earlier accepted version is OK with me. But your edit has removed the new subsection on' Ugaaboga' that was discussed and supported with no opposition. I assume you did not intend to remove it. Unless I hear otherwise from you I will add the new subsection on 'Ugaabogas' needed for the article. It is a very important element of Carnatic Music. ThanksNaadapriya (talk) 21:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK I will make it brief and add a separate article for 'Ugaaboga'. Many sections are too long in the article. Please make English corrections if needed.Naadapriya (talk) 06:35, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for editing my addition on Ugaabogas. It looks better now. I have added a new article to build this important item of Carnatic musicNaadapriya (talk) 07:14, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Viruthams have existed for thousands of years, like slokams. They're like a raga alapana, but are lyrical by nature. Some Tevarams are sung as Viruthams, as are certain other forms...such as Ugabhoga. Ugabhogas are devotional by nature, much like the other forms, so it doesn't even belong in the CM article. Purandaradasar did NOT introduce the Ughabhoga - it was introduced by the Haridasa movement. The concept of virutham wasn't introduced by Papanasam Sivan - it existed thousands of years ago. Papanasam Sivan merely composed more, much like composers prior to his existence, including Gopalakrishna Bharathi, Muthu Thandavar and Arunachala Kavi. The editor pushing for the introduction of material has deliberately introduced factual errors. Ughabhogas are NOT integral to a concert. In fact, you can handpick which concerts actually have had ughabhogas sung in them. I request you raise these concerns at the relevant pages. Ncmvocalist (talk) 07:29, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would you please explain your revert? What do you mean by "links seem good"? If you mean that they're working (as in not dead), then there's simply would be no end to dumping links there. None of those I removed would qualify as RS and are merely private websites of individuals. They are not authorities, they are not official sites and for all practical reasons, they're as good as blogs. Sarvagnya 19:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to say thanks for fixing the Korean cold noodle and Korean spicy noodle "mess" (see User_talk:Peterjhpark#Korean_Noodle). On an unrelated note, you have Zhu (percussion instrument) listed twice on your userpage. Happy editing! ~EdGl 14:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• _{I copied it from user talk:Appletrees so use this page for the further discussion. Thanks --Appletrees (talk) 14:32, 30 March 2008 (UTC)}[reply]

Hi, at this site I need to evaluate the following for inclusion in the Korean wine article (I haven't run into any of them before and don't know where to include them):

• 처음처럼
• 설화
• 수복골드
• 군주
• 국향

Badagnani (talk) 01:00, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to butt in here uninvited, and I'm currently under the influence of a strong dose of cheongha, but thought I'd put in my two-cents. I do drink Korean wine, often, and enthusiastically. The names you list are all brands of drink made by the Doosan company. 처음처럼 (Cheo-eum cheoreom) is soju. 설화 (Seolhwa) I'm not sure about, but looks like a version of Nigori sake or makkoli. 수복골드 = Soobok Gold. It's 14% alcohol and looks like Cheongha, which I see links to nigori, but should probably more properly link to Sake, served cold. 군주... (Goonju) not sure. Looks like something I had in Korea called okmiju-- booze made from corn. All I can say with certainty about it is that it's tasty, and I'd like some to follow my cheongha... 국향, again, looks like cheongha... This probably doesn't help much, but I hope it does.... Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 04:56, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You mean 국향 is like cheongha, but with added scent of chrysanthemum flowers? Or is that just the name? And why is the 군주 so orange in color? I think there must be some citrus in there. Badagnani (talk) 05:25, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above comments were pretty much guess-work on my part based on some years in Korea, much of that time spent enjoying the local liquor. I would guess your chrysanthemum theory is also correct, though again, just a guess. My guess that 군주 is something like okmiju was based on the color-- okmiju was orange-ish. As usual, I've got some other articles I'm planning to work on at present, but if I get time I'll look into the Korean wine article later and see if I can find some sourcing/information to help out. Cheers! Geonbae! Uihayo and all that... Dekkappai (talk) 18:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The google results provided by Endroit only shows "plum blossom" --Appletrees (talk) 18:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

People are disputing over whether the name 'ume' is not a common English name or not.

As I say countlessly before, your hidden comment on articles is not helpful to draw people's attention. Your doubt is also related to our ongoing discussion. Please use talk page instead. --Appletrees (talk) 18:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Badagnani. I don't know who put in the Chinese at the article, but I noticed the traditional & simplified were the same... which can't be right. As to dialect, she spoke Taishanese. Whether that's reflected in the Romanization, I don't know. Dekkappai (talk) 22:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Badagnani, I am playing the piano Sonata No. 1 by Alberto Ginastera, and I would like to know how to correctly pronounce the "G" in his name. I noticed your revisions on his article. Would you please verify to me how you know the proper pronunciation? I would very much appreciate knowing your source. Thank you! Dan (talk) 18:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

_{copied from WP:KO--Appletrees (talk) 21:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)}[reply]

I do not believe the dishes on "to-do list" Badagnani (talk · contribs) added are Koreanized Chinese foods, so spent some time searching relevant info. Indeed these are just Chinese dishes not to have become such dishes like jajangmyeon, jjamppong, or tangsuyuk. Therefore, I removed the dishes except ulmyeon, because I'm not sure whether the dish, a similar to da lu mian (打滷麵) in Chinese cuisine is Koreanized or not in Korea. The rest of dishes are transliterated in Korean. Badagnani, I think you should request your list to Chinese project. You can add Korean name for the dishes if articles regarding them are ever created. I put their original Chinese name and hanzi, so you can find needed info over the web.

• wēnlŭmiàn (溫滷麵 / ulmyeon 울면 in Korean) noodles, seafood, and vegetables in a chowder-like soup. It is similar to da lu mian (打滷麵)
• laziji (辣椒鷄 / rajogi, 라조기 in Korean) sliced chicken and vegetables with garlic and chili pepper[4]
• ganpengji (乾烹鷄 / kkanpunggi, 깐풍기 in Korean) chicken and vegetables sauteed with garlic-flavored sauce
• babaocai (八寶菜 / palbochae, 팔보채 in Korean) mixed seafood with hot sauce
• liang zhang pi (兩張皮 or 洋張皮 / yangjangpi, 양장피 in Korean) peeled lamb gut, seafood, and vegetables in mustard sauce)

--Appletrees (talk) 21:50, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above dishes are not as much familiar and moderate price as jjangnyeon, or tangsuyuk in Korean. Due to its cheap price and new taste, jajangmyeon has gotten into Korean culture deeply and Korean has tried to make Korean version of the dishes. However, the recipe of the above dishes are not much different from the original. Therefore, they're just Chinese dishes. However, the dishes are mostly from Shandong region, and I don't know they're popular there.--Appletrees (talk) 22:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've noticed your great work over the years. Since I live in China, I've only been able to access Wikipedia by proxy and haven't been able to edit for a long time. Finally, the Great Chinese Firewall is letting Wikipedia through and I want to start editing again. Can you help me??? Do you know of a China city project or any spcific formatting issues for Chinese cities? The city stuff, say Guangzhou for example, is a mess. Can you point me in the right direction?Mike (talk) 07:01, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the welcome. I went to work on the to-do-list for the China Project and started the List of Chinese Cuisine Names. Most of the regional cuisine pages are neat and tidy with just a few representative dishes listed. However, I looked at the Beijing Cuisine page and noticed a huge list. What do you think about just leaving 5 to 10 representative dishes and moving the rest to the cuisin name list? Or, we could follow a format similar to Cantonese which retains many dish names but icnludes more info, making it more encyclopedic rather than "list"? Mike (talk) 05:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are right about the counties over cuisine. Geography is my thing... I was just really hungry.Mike (talk) 12:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Traditionally, yeast was the leavened, but I would be surprised if there were no added chemical leavening. Sodium or ammonium bicarbonate comes to mind. I have doubts about added aluminum, but who knows? Sjschen (talk) 23:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt they use baking powder. But baking soda in the form of sodium bicarbonate, and possibly ammonium bicarbonate is used. The first is very safe for consumption but leaves a salty taste. The latter is not as safe when food is not completely cooked, but quite safe when the food is heated for prolonged periods since this drives off ammonia. Ammonium bicarbonate also does not leave the salty taste that happens with sodium bicarbonate. Sjschen (talk) 23:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's yeast[5]. As such natural fermentation with wild yeast may not be out of the question, perhaps this is why it's not on the ingredient list? Sjschen (talk) 23:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The previous is 4 ingredient (flour, wheat gluten, water, yeast), this one uses 3 (wheat gluten, water, yeast). Sjschen (talk) 23:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess that depends on the subject of matter ;) Sjschen (talk) 15:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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玖 is "9" in the other set of Chinese numerals for financial use. See Chinese numerals. HkCaGu (talk) 01:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't believe that South West Syndicate should be included - needs to be notable (there should at least be an article created on the band first).Dan arndt (talk) 08:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you consider that they are notable then you should create an article on either them or Brothablack. Dan arndt (talk) 00:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I changed all the links to inline citations, because I think this deserves to be a featured article. Can you help advance it?--Parkwells (talk) 21:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Tan Crone, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tan Crone. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. asenine ^t/_c 01:11, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure. I used to have a box that said I contributed to the Arabic Wikipedia, but it started to mess up my user page so I removed it recently. But you're right, I should put some kind of box on my page regarding that. -- Slacker (talk) 21:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have upload picture before but it no accept my picture, it have problem about license. How should i do? I am very glad to be one who make free encyclopedia of the world. But I don't know a lot in how to make it.

How i find friend who edit in wikipedia too to talk about how to do it?

Manzzzz talk

Yes! I am thai. I play many thai instruments. I also have it. I have ever go competition and other work like playing in marriage party or festival party with my school. I am very pround of it. I want thai instrument know world wide! What instrument u play?

Manzzzz talk —Preceding comment was added at 05:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! great! both of you and userbox. how i get en level 2 , how know my en level?

Re:AfD

Thanks for helping out by editing Ranat ek. I noticed that also Saw u and Saw duang were possibly copied from the same website. (EhJJ)^TALK 06:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow great work mate -about time too, a shame WiseKwai isn't here to join in the celebrations. I'd suggest you speak to User:John Carter who has done a lot in setting up various wikirpojects and fixing banners, so perhaps he could give you a hand with that, I'll help you with any preliminaries or whatever needs doing later, just ask. Regards and well done! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 10:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comment.
Now i feel very good with wiki editing and i will keep going
I wonder there are program that help to make wikipedia like Dreamweaver make webpage ?
Can I edit my editing page to arrage my tool by myself?
I wonder at the first that I make change articles or make new article how you know it ?

Manzzzz^(talk) 02:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How I join it? Can I talk with you in msn chat for better ? Manzzzz^(talk) 09:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder , do you what i am editing ? Do you get money from wiki? Manzzzz^(talk) 17:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh it's really great work! You make so many article! God bless you! When i make first article or edit, how do you know there are new article or some change?Manzzzz^(talk) 17:32, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! It's really big problem. I met this problem in many word like ranad and ranat also. I offer ranad. Most of thai people will search for glong or klong following writing and sound in thai.Manzzzz^(talk) 18:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manzzzz (talk • contribs) 17:45, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! You play so many. What's your main occupied?Manzzzz^(talk) 17:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! It is great of you about music. You can play and know so many! How great are you! I wonder if there are some program that help to edit wiki for more quick and comfort? Can i add auto sign username? Are there some? Manzzzz^(talk) 18:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bot. i see. What is WPTHAILAND template? What you request it for? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manzzzz (talk • contribs) 18:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for add thai template in user page. WoWManzzzz^(talk) 18:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes madam, Fongnaam You really know them wow.Manzzzz^(talk) 19:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you make link for ranat to ranat (thai instrument) ? Now it's about starwar.Manzzzz^(talk) 03:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At present mahori also are played. This photo show clearly number instrument.Manzzzz^(talk) 03:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh i see. Do some big thing must ignore some little thing. It's my mistake, not wikipedia. It's so hard to take right photo for me. I want other see content or picture.Manzzzz^(talk) 04:04, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh you are so grateful! It's really so busy if find photo->request->when say yes->upload->content photo->edit content. wow! Manzzzz^(talk) 04:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ranat ek is made from Ching chan wood. Not bamboo wood.Manzzzz^(talk) 05:48, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would you please help watch Template:History of Burma? User:JacquesNguyen changes it several times a day, accusing me of vandalism in the edit summary (I wrote the template, I am not vandalizing it, I assure you), and has never once justified his slander or changes. I see you have also had dealings with him, and would appreciate your help. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:35, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey I love Cambodia and Angkor too! But yes I can see you copied the Cambodian template, easy mistake to make. I'll see if I can find a better image but it looks ok I think . Regards ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 09:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just had to save River City Shopping Complex from deletion ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 09:57, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1784 is definately several hundred years out. I said this to the creator but he isn't responding ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 10:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yup 1984 thats what I thought according to the officil site. I believe I have been there, but my memory is slightly fuzzy ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 10:04, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not bad work eh? Perhaps you could reword the lower "Shop" section to River City Shopping Complex I suspect they may have been copied. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 10:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've cut out a bit and reworded to avoid direct copywright, may still need a bit of work but its better ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 11:07, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support in my RFA, that didn't quite make it and ended at 120/47/13. There was a ton of great advice there, that I'm going to go on. Maybe someday. If not, there are articles to write! Thanks for your support. Lawrence § t/e 18:00, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plz rewrite my article and some change in 13/4/2008 because i c o p p y from ref. Thanks.Manzzzz^(talk) 05:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Solid call. I just wanted to get those four articles subdivided out of "String Instruments" and into some sort of category, but I'm totally open to the name. The four articles currently listed mainly mentioned the one-string aspect, but I can see how that's not necessarily a defining characteristic. We at least have those four grouped together now, so the only question is what to call the subcat and where to file it. I'm open to any ideas. MatthewVanitas (talk) 07:21, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. There will be some instruments which positively are in multiple subcats, or positively cannot go in a subcat, and I'm cool with either option. Since "Washtub bass" has at least four related articles, I think there will eventually be a mutually-agreeable name for a subcat for them.

Do you think we can get a quorum to make any sweeping decisions about how to sort out Musical Instruments, or has the project died down to just a few hardcore organizers?

MatthewVanitas (talk) 07:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello. I'm wondering about your repeated removal of the String Instruments category link from the Harp article. Since you didn't provide an edit summary, I'm not clear why you think the harp's inclusion in this category shouldn't be noted on its article page. Rivertorch (talk) 16:14, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, you shockpuppet of Han tu Chu nom, stop writing on others' user page. 96.229.126.4 (talk) 23:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly what I thought, you're a coward who try to scare others like braggart, who bothered others like kids, who followed others kust like detective. In the end, you're a waste matter. 96.229.126.4 (talk) 23:54, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia rules allow users to delete their talk pages. Read this: "Policy does not prohibit users, including both registered and anonymous users, from removing comments from their own talk pages". "If a user removes a comment from their own talk page, (legitimate or not), it should remain removed." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_page#Ownership_and_editing_of_pages_in_the_user_space 96.229.126.4 (talk) 23:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Abusive anon user now blocked. --Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων (talk) 00:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did to Jerry Lee Lewis. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Ward3001 (talk) 00:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do not accuse editors of vandalism when they make legitimate edits. When you made your original edit about where Lewis lives, you did not include a source. Thus, I reverted it as unsourced. You later restored it with a source, stating in the summary "revert vandalism". Let me suggest that you read WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL. Thank you. Ward3001 (talk) 02:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here you added the information unsourced (and it doesn't matter whether this was previously added by someone else; you added it this time). Immediately after I deleted it, here you added it again with a citation and made the statement "rv vandalism". Stop making false accusations of vandalism. Case closed. Ward3001 (talk) 02:18, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plz add ranat ek for Thailand in National instrumentManzzzz^(talk) 06:31, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

it seems you followed me today. Thanks. The List of museums in South Korea page needs a lot of help. We'll get there. DaronDierkes (talk) 10:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

thank you Badagnani for your interests in improving our article, however you are in an edit war on our page. WE in the Wiki Project Florida State University look after our pages and edit them with great care. We use the Discussion page to better our articles to avoid these conflicts. This is how the Bobby Bowden/Paterno issue was resolved. Thank you--UkrNole 485 (talk) 14:48, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i am being civil, please allow for discussion before you impose your will--UkrNole 485 (talk) 20:22, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

your sugestions will be considered thank you, now i ask you to stop the edit war--Nolephin (talk) 20:45, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes thank you but right now its 3-1 in favor of the footnote idea. I think as well as Nolephin and UkrNole 485 that that is a fair trade.--68.35.201.31 (talk) 23:43, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Contrary to the NCAA’s statements, the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma is on record as unopposed to the use of the Seminole name. This past July, the Seminole Nation General Council, the legislative body for the Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, resoundingly defeated a motion to denounce the use of Native American nicknames and images in sports and other events. The vote was 18-2."

"On June 17, 2005, the Tribal Council of the Seminole Tribe of Florida voted unanimously in favor of a written resolution to reaffirm its ongoing support of the university’s use of its name and symbols. The significance of putting this resolution in writing is enhanced by the fact that traditionally the Seminole Tribe of Florida has not seen the need to commit these kinds of relationships or agreements to writing. Their word is their bond. During the presentation of that resolution to me at the Tribe’s Big Cypress Reservation, Tribal Council member Max Osceola said, “We have to respect each other’s views, and in the Seminole Tribe of Florida’s view, you honor us by using the name Seminole.""

This was found by another user. Sorry i admire your tenacity--UkrNole 485 (talk) 00:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for noticing. I'm having fun contacting people at Flickr and getting many photos released for use here. I've really unearthed some surprising photographs. I think there may be a Coltrane in the works...crosses fingers. Check out the new Taj Mahal (musician) photo at the opening. That thing is smoking hot. Anyway, thanks for contacting me. Keep up the good edits. (Mind meal (talk) 04:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Yeah, I do tell them about how frequently visited we are. Most seem to already be aware of this. Wikipedia is really the #1 source for information people come to. Also, most are happy to have their photos so widely viewed. Every once in a while someone gets a bit prickly, but I have it set up where I provide all relevant info on licensing and such in my intro request so that they know the rationale for needing the required licenses. It is real fun actually. Take care. (Mind meal (talk) 04:48, 15 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

I haven't found one of Blackwell, no. Some of the old school guys are hard to track down. However, I did find a woman with a lot of old school cats today that released a bunch; they are old and grainy, but they do the trick. These were folks like Red Holloway and Flip Phillips. Maybe I'll try finding one of Blackwell outside of Flickr. Get one under a GNU license. (Mind meal (talk) 04:52, 15 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Regarding the B&W photos, that might have been me uploading them. Perhaps you mean photographer Tom Marcello, who released several photographs in this vein: Sonny Stitt or Zoot Sims. Or, the cream of the crop: Charles Mingus. (Mind meal (talk) 04:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Yeah, that was me. He claims to not be a professional photographer, but I disagree. His photos are unreal. That one of Mingus is now one of my favorite photos of a jazzman ever. (Mind meal (talk) 05:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

I have no idea what building that is. Scratches head. (Mind meal (talk) 05:08, 15 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

The discussion has already been had. For over a year now, it has been WP:PLANTS policy to distinguish between plant taxon and plant product, and to have separate articles for each. I don't think it is necessary to duplicate the discussion over and over again for every vegetable this applies to.

Please be so kind as to explain to me what is so illogical about distinguishing between a fruit and the plant that it grows on. They are, after all, completely different concepts.

Hesperian 05:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm am not sure if our messages crossed or what. It has most certainly been discussed. Hang on a sec and I'll dig up some links. Hesperian 05:45, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants/Archive6#Plant Naming Convention Proposal draft
2. Point 2 of Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants#Plant article naming conventions
3. And the same text, duplicated at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (flora)
   • But of course, you're well aware for this convention.[6]

So, now that I have provided evidence that there is broad consensus to keep these distinct concepts as distinct articles, I think the most appropriate way to proceed is for you to revert your reversion of my split, and then start a discussion on whether we should make an exception for this article.

Hesperian 05:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now you're stalking me; go away. Hesperian 05:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And celery too?

I clearly have the weight of published convention, and the agreement of WP:PLANTS, behind me.

Why don't you step aside until you've figured out whether your actions represent the opinion of more than just yourself.

Hesperian 06:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's the standard and it works well, preventing any confusion. Says Badagnani. I've just shown you that the standard is to split these articles. Does the view of Badagnani trump consensus? Does Badagnani get to stonewall, pending a discussion that has already been had, just because Badagnani disagrees with consensus? Hesperian 06:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love to see you over at Wikipedia:Five pillars arguing there's no consensus for any this so-called "policy", amongst "editors specializing in celery-related topics."[7]

What is the point of establishing consensus on how to handle a general situation if that consensus counts for nothing in specific cases; if the conversation has to be had again and again and again every time someone wishes to apply it to a specific case. I think the reality is you don't like the consensus, so you've decided to pretend it doesn't exist.

Hesperian 06:28, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A predictable response. You don't like the consensus, so you'll declare it not well thought out. Never mind the fact that I've pointed you at two weeks of discussion totally 60kB. Never mind that fact that the convention has been in place for 18 months, and working nicely. The consensus can't possibly be right, because then Badagnani would be wrong. Heaven forfend!

What this boils down to, is you don't like the consensus so you refuse to let it be applied.

Hesperian 06:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bagadani, as the above editor has pointed out, there is clear consensus to split these articles. I suggest that you revert your changes as requested. As an uninvolved admin, I warn you that continuing this crusade will result in a temporary block for disruptive editing. —Moondyne click! 06:11, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My so-called "threat" is just statement of fact. If you continue to revert against consensus this can only be construed as being disruptive and will incur consequences. —Moondyne click! 06:19, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Moondyne here, summarily reverting Hesperian was the wrong thing to do. Stan (talk) 13:16, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've put in a request. We'll see what happens. There are a few that would likely be released as a last resort, though i've started with this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/christian_sahm/281251303/. Volume 12 and some of the others I have found to be unresponsive to requests. RE: John Tchicai, I almost secured one but have not heard back from the person in a while. We'll see. (Mind meal (talk) 07:48, 15 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Ha! Expert my ass. I've not seen that film—it looks interesting. I'll have to see if I can get it in at the library. I guess Zen and jazz have a bit in common, such as the spontaneity integral to the two. I'm listening to Where is Brooklyn? by Don Cherry (jazz) right now. He makes sounds I never knew a cornet could make. Some might call it noise—great stuff. (Mind meal (talk) 07:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

We got a photo! (Mind meal (talk) 19:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Please be considerate of the consensus of the pages, users feel threatened when someone enters and edits the hard work already placed. Also your personal beliefs on the Native American mascot issue has allowed you the skew a POV to that side just as you feel "we have love for our school". It would be best in the future to discuss changes to be made to gain such consensus. You are an editing machine and i dont ask you to stop just be considerate.--UkrNole 485 (talk) 12:34, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked users, IPs or accounts, can still edit their own userspace in order that they may make an appeal with the unblock template if they want to. What Jacques was doing was editing the template to make it look like he had unblocked himself. He hadn't edited anywhere else than his talk page, though (my rollback on Vietnamese tiền was undoing an old edit of his that was missed originally). If enough of that kind of nonsense goes on, an admin will eventually protect the page so the unblock template (which shows up other places once added) will not be abused. The talk page in question has since been so protected. Cheers! --Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων (talk) 13:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Mãng cầu" is the southern terminology for species of the genus Annona. This includes "mãng cầu tây" ("western", Annona cheirimola), "mãng cầu xiêm" ("Siamese", Annona muricata) and "mãng cầu ta" ("our", Annona squamosa). The latter is also known as "mãng cầu dai", "na", "sa lê", and "phan lệ chi". DHN (talk) 15:51, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen Xiem both capitalized and not. DHN (talk) 00:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why did You revert the article on Tamburica? I made some usefull changes. --— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanjagenije (talk • contribs)

• I've only removed doble photos, as there wer two different photos for each type of tamburica. I'vr explained it in discussion. That was confusing. I also added captions for each photo, added ane nes usefull photo and missing links. Please don't revert it. Vanjagenije (talk) 01:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's someone else. This person seems to be interested in other topics and isn't interested in removing Chinese characters. DHN (talk) 02:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think this user is making good-faith edits and would stop removing Chinese characters if you explain to the user clearly why they're there. This user has begun editing in vi.wiki and appears to be a newbie. DHN (talk) 03:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See user:JzG/unreliable sources. Free republic is going on the blacklist. Guy (Help!) 17:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are over the WP:3RR limit and be assured if you revert again you will be reported. Thanks, SqueakBox 18:21, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I always find that after I've really put my foot in it and done something so clearly wrong-- especially if I've falsely accused another editor of wrong-doing, and threatened him in the process-- that a quick and sincere apology helps things all around too, SB. <end sarcasm> Since neither of these two appear to be ready to do it any time soon, Badagnani, let me thank you for finding a reliable source to replace the other. Great work! Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 21:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please explain your recent reversion to Pasta fagioli? There was no edit summary. On the other hand, my edit did have a summary explaining what I was doing. --Macrakis (talk) 18:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't add comments when I haven't asked for comments yet. There will be a time when that occurs. Thank you. miranda 21:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please review WP:EL and discuss on Talk before adding external links to this page? Recipes and photos with no particular claim to being authoritative or reliable are discouraged by WP:EL, and links to search results pages are especially discouraged. Otherwise every article would have a link to the Google Web or Image or other search results page. --Macrakis (talk) 21:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Badagnani, I have pointed you to the WP policy saying not to make external links to search results, yet you re-inserted two external links to flickr search results. This is not good, and saying that it would be nice to have photos is not an excuse. --Macrakis (talk) 03:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just signed in after a couple of days travelling and saw your note. I agree that it is a likely sock of Jacques N., but someone else beat me to the block. Cheers! --Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων (talk) 00:18, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I'm just using the categories as a reference point. I'm getting a lot of photos, but there are still a ton I either can't find or folks are unwilling to release. In my mind I like to fantasize that I can get a photo of every jazz musician, though. Lmao! One day...one day! (Mind meal (talk) 04:37, 19 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Well, we have John Surman not blowing, John Tchicai, Hamiet Bluiett and even Wadada Leo Smith. I have a pretty good batting average so far. Now if only I can find George Lewis (trombonist). Oops, looks like I did! Hope your having fun editing! (Mind meal (talk) 08:25, 20 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Howard Levy will be coming sometime in the coming days. (Mind meal (talk) 11:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

I asked Dmcdevit to run a CheckUser. Doremon's IP was not a proxy and he was in a different country than Bugeaud, Mamenchisaurus and JacquesNguyen. Bugeaud, Mamenchisaurus and JacquesNguyen all operated on the same IP as well. For now, we'll have to keep monitoring Doremon's edits as is. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not love)} 18:20, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mamenchi was confirmed by CheckUser as a sock of JacquesNguyen. I did notice the similarities between Jacques and Doremon's editing, but for now...CheckUser has exonerated him. As far as I know, a proxy is by far the most frequently used method to make it appear you are editing from a different geographic location. Doremon was not using a proxy. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not love)} 18:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: "The term "electric bass" is presented as an alternate name in the very first sentence of this article. Should we put in bold or italics (or a different color) to make it stand out even more?":

I think the answer should depend entirely on Wikipedia protocol. If Wikipedia articles customarily do this, we should; if they don't, we shouldn't--and I'm not sure if they do (well, I'm pretty sure they don't do the color).

The reason I'm addressing this question here rather than in the bass guitar article, though, is that I very much doubt boldface or italics or color--or neon lights, for that matter--will do any good. Despite what I and Grove said about bass and electric bass being abbreviations for bass guitar and electric bass guitar, it seems clear that there is a sizable contingent of players who are effectively using these terms as euphemisms. Why euphemisms should be felt necessary I don't quite grasp, but it may have something to do with perceived prejudices about the guitar (that it's supposedly easy to play and so on). I don't know what the cure for instrumental low self-esteem might be, but it's hard for me to imagine Wikipedia could (or should) disperse it.

(I thought your Fender patent documents super-cool by the way. I actually made a print-out of one and put it on my refrigerator. Thanks.) TheScotch (talk) 05:36, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I took the original seasonal assignments from Japanese Wikipedia [8]:

春は蘭、夏は竹、秋は菊、冬は梅と、四季を通じての題材となる

I couldn't find much at all on the Internet to support this. This Chinese site [9] does give:

春兰、夏竹、秋菊、冬梅是国人心目中的四君子

While the above is not conclusive, I'd like to see some decent evidence before the article is changed.

Bathrobe (talk) 10:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think thus far on the bagpipe sections? Fit into the overall direction that Wiki:Music needs to be going? Anything in particular I should keep my eye out for while bouncing things around? MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:18, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help on getting the bagpipe section cleaned up! Had a couple quick issues: -Italics: What's the justification for italicizing the Arabic script equivalents? The purpose of the italics in the Latin script is to denote a foreign word, and the Arabic terms are already clearly foreign words. The italics also makes the words that much harder to read, so it seems counter-productive. -Arabic terms: The lettering you found for Ghaita looks good, but the term for Jirba seems odd. It's really hard to read that font, especially italicized, but the first letter looks like an "f" or a "q", and I can't tell if the third letter is a "y" or a "b". It could well be that the actual spelling is far from the Gulf Arabic pronunciation, but are you quite sure about the spelling? -Ghaita/Raita: I know the current Wiki article lists it as an oboe or hornpipe, but I keep running across references mentioning the ghaita as a bagpipe. Is this a confusion with the mizwad, people calling a circular-breathed oboe a bagpipe, or is there a variant of the ghaita which includes a bag? MatthewVanitas (talk) 12:56, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I just spent several hours reading through the Talk:waterboarding archives. I commend you for you dogged insistence on a good article in the face of so many sockpuppets and concern trolls. Well done. 134.10.125.184 (talk) 19:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

does not make any sense and you're completely ignoring the consensus from the CFD. You've never have hotteok in your life and never been to South Korea and how could you conclude that your original research is referenced? The rapsberry hotteok should not place on it. You claim that your insistence is helping the article but actually is not. You said my English is so poor that you can not properly understand it, address it at Talk or fix it for you with your so-good English. Not place it to annoy readers or other editors who in future edit the page for other occasion. I will fix it at any minutes. You also introduced factual errors with the season category at Naemyeon. I will fix your error when I have my time. --Appletrees (talk) 22:49, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dog meat is usually eaten as tang not as jeongol. The clumsy food in the picture is jeongo that should be inserted to here? I don think so. That is also no text info. I sense that why you created this article and request yukgaejang article to be made because they're somewhat related to dog meat. You know that I'm the one who creates Korean related articles in these days, so your unhelpful hidden message on the article is just annoying. Melonbarmonster's previous comment on your POV is so right. Don't say that 'our readers" cliche, because you're not representative those people and your recent edits on Korean cuisine is really pushing your unconfirmed insistence and introducing factual errors just like the hanja of seolleongtang. --Appletrees (talk) 23:11, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is how Westerners conviniently call the food in their language. Tteok can be made with barely powder, buckwheat, white wheat or potato flour. Tteok is not syllable to refer to cake made with "rice". Why I do I always have to explain to you whenever you introduce factual errors to Korean cuisine articles? --Appletrees (talk) 00:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why would I? Bye.--Appletrees (talk)

are you familiar with this user? I have the feeling that it may be a sockpuppet of JacquesNguyen, what do you think? Sennen goroshi (talk) 10:42, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you take a second look at this entry. It is unclear to what other post it responds. It presently breaks up the continuity of the discussion. __meco (talk) 17:37, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please reconsider the restoration of that ref. It was added by the owner of that blog, whose work on wiki largely revolves around putting a link to his blog innocuously in references, external links, see alsos, and image gallery captions. /Carson 22:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this edit to User talk:Miranda, see Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars which, while only an essay, generally has broad consensus. Thanks. - ✰ALLSTAR✰ ^echo 00:25, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for experimenting with the page Veena on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. --122.107.188.19 (talk) 02:11, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

छौंक is the correct spelling for the chaunk,and चौंक means shock--59.94.147.159 (talk) 05:34, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

done —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.94.154.194 (talk) 10:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The word in Tamil should be Thalitthal which should in the script be தாளித்தல். Anyways, wait till other users have their say too. Cheers Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 18:16, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should have been a mistake. There is no Tamil word that goes by as Thalchi. The person who added there should have wanted to write as Thalichi, which is just a slang of everyday usage and not fit for an encyclopdia. 18:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 18:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, you are right. Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 18:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry mate! I don't know any that would fit your needs, but I can direct you to a few male editors who may be of help. For Kannada you can contact User:Sarvagnya or User:Naadapriya, and as for Malayalam I just know one user User:Tinucherian who is a Malayali. These people might be of help, or at least would be able to guide you to the right person or place. BTW are you interested in food related entries? Wiki San Roze ^†αLҝ 19:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know it has been a while since you asked the question but I just posted and answer to your comments at Talk:New Thought#Animism. Please feel free to respond there if you would like to discuss further. -- Low Sea (talk) 19:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

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You'll be able to find the project at WP:HAU. If you would like to join, make sure you meet the criteria for voulunteers and then just add your name and details to the correct continent. Some of the continents have a schedule set up, so please add yourself to that as well. Useight (talk) 05:18, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Don't know if you saw this and this - the main page for 5/4/08 omitted mention of Kent State, apparently because of the ref tag in the May 4 section. I had objected last year to the wording that appeared and again this year to proposed wording that read "1970 – The Ohio National Guard shot at students in Kent State University protesting the United States invasion of Cambodia", as I think to say they "shot at students" is a serious understatement. But we won't get any wording in unless we can remove the tag. So - I think we need to do some work on that section and improve the references. I'm writing to you, because I had the impression that you have access to the archives. I'm also not clear on when that tag was added or if the section refs have improved since it was added - I'll take a look at that. As I'm sure you agree, it is important for this event to be remembered. I was surprised yesterday to see Fox News mention it, and I must say, they did so in a non-partisan and fair way, at least in the report I saw. All best Tvoz/talk 04:50, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, neither am I sure what needs to be added, but apparently someone thought that references needed improving. I guess we need to add citations for the basic facts. I'll see what I can cull from the Eszterhas book "Thirteen Seconds", but I htought the archives might be a good source for citations. Tvoz/talk 05:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I found you by looking at users who are on WP:KOREAK, anyway, I was wondering if you were able to translate this image. It has been uploaded by a user who has been uploading other rather nonsensical images t. Can you tag it as nonsense if it is, or perhaps explain what possible purposes it could fulfill? I can't translate this. Kind regards User A1 (talk) 08:56, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is well known that all chemical articles will or should have a chemical structure. So adding tags requesting structures accomplishes nothing. Its great to see that you care about this need, but your obvious skills might be better spent on projects related to adding content to these articles, vs simply asking for images, some of which are non-trivial. --Smokefoot (talk) 13:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Badagnani, I wanted to say I am pleased that the double bass article seems to be fairly stable, and that we have managed to suppress repeated efforts to put "bull fiddle" into the lede. One area of the article that is weak is the long list of composers of bass repertoire. I think that we should either develop it (by converting the list to prose, and fleshing out each composer with the dates they were active, the style they write in, the types of pieces they write, and putting it in a chronological order). Failing that, I think we might want to just relocate the list into a separate list article. One of my concerns with having a long list in the article is that these lists are a great way for BadFaith editors to sneak in nonsense or POV stuff, which hurts the credibility of the article. To make my point, I bet you that if I added in a minor 1950s composer who never penned a single double bass work, it would stay there for years. By converting it to prose, it "raises the bar", and makes it harder for people to add nonsense. I have fact-checked similar lists and found that people have added all sorts of random stuff, ranging from seeming self-promotion of non-notable people to straight-out vandalism-style nonsense....................................By the way, here is the list:Other composers to have written solo works for the double bass in the 20th and 21st centuries include Reinhold Glière, Paul Hindemith, Luciano Berio, Christian Wolff, Fernando Grillo, Sofia Gubaidulina, Jacob Druckman, Iannis Xenakis, Elliott Carter, Salvatore Sciarrino, Vincent Persichetti, Mario Davidovsky, Samuel Adler, Bright Sheng, Oliver Knussen, Giacinto Scelsi, Charles Wuorinen, Renaud Garcia-Fons, Lowell Liebermann, Georges Aperghis, Ana Maria Avram, Philippe Boivin, Aldo Brizzi, Gualtiero Dazzi, James Giroudon, Ramon Gonzalez Arroyo, Karim Haddad, Pierre-Alain Jaffrenou, Pierre Jodlowski, Michael Levinas, Martin Matalon, Horatio Radulescu, Kaija Saariaho, Sylvano Bussotti, James Dillon, Pascal Dusapin, Brian Ferneyhough, Philip Glass, Bruno Maderna, Philippe Boivin, John Cage, Tom Johnson, and Franco Donatoni.OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 04:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I agree...it would be good to consider a separate list article similar to your oboe repertoire article. ThanksOnBeyondZebrax (talk) 04:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Badagnani. Template:Reqimage has been depreciated for the last two years. For Talk:Fantasy on Japanese Woodprints, Op. 211 and Talk:Jins, please consider using a different graphics request template from Category:Image request templates. For example, {{Reqdiagram}} can be used for diagrams and {{Reqequation}} would seem to work for score fragments. {{reqimageother}} is used for a graphics request that is not a map, a diagram, or a photograph. GregManninLB (talk) 05:38, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're defending for original researches and unofficial name of the tteok by an editor with no source. Besides, as I wrote it at edit summary, huitteok is garaetteok. Even more popular and culturally important tteok articles are not made yet. Huin means "white", nothing else. What is your reason to urge to make such article with the unofficial name? So if you can't search and create an article by yourself, why don't you ask somebody knowledgeable of Korean food first.--Appletrees (talk) 17:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you even don't read "tteok"? Why did you insist on putting it? Tteok is NOT NOODLES!!!!!!!--Appletrees (talk) 17:18, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Listen, what are you thinking? You too know well that I'm not a native speaker of English, then what did you do on doljanchi article? If you found that simple grammatical error, you could've fix it by yourself, but you left the weird hidden mark on the article. Besides as you already saw the two lists of museums in South Korea are marked "incomplete". The lists miss about 200 more museums to be added on the list. Did you even see the museum template by city, province and institution. Your behaviors obviously appear to some sort of childish retaliation. I sincerely suggest you to learn Korean because that can you find desirable sources by yourself not introducing false and original researches to Korean related articles. --Appletrees (talk) 17:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is not my last question, That is the concern about museum lists. Whenever I find something dubious or illegible from articles here, I usually search sources by myself and fix it or ask the editor who introduced information. You know too well that I wrote the article and tend to feel very irritated by your hidden remarks, but you always choose to do so. That behavior is ntentional, and not good faith. Before concerning my tone, you should not repeat your past errors again and again. And stick to reliable sources. If you can't, please let articles others with reliable source edit. --Appletrees (talk) 17:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your comments on User talk:Appletrees: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.

Please stop your disruptive editing. If your vandalism continues, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Appletrees (talk) 18:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would you kindly provide the diffs to show the conduct to which you are referring? That way, I would be able to evaluate whether your claims have any merit. Badagnani (talk) 18:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your templatings absurd warnings are ALL PERSONAL ATTACKS AND VANDLAISM on my talk page. You're the one who vandalise my talk page. I highly doubt that you're not even qualified to edit Korean related articles. --Appletrees (talk) 18:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you have removed all comments I have made on your talk page. Why do you do that? Please provide diffs so that I may evaluate whether your claims have merit, thanks. Badagnani (talk) 18:14, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Appletrees&diff=prev&oldid=211696135#May_2008

You're also spamming the same message, after you even restored it? Did I revert after you revert to your insisted version. You already forgot what you did? That is really sad for you.--Appletrees (talk) 18:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I ask that you please moderate your tone. I'm sorry that I can't understand your above message. Can you please provide diffs so that I may evaluate your assertions? Thank you, Badagnani (talk) 18:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, you did not even remember what you did. That is so tragic for you. (even the attached link is invisible? too sad) I sincerely sympathise your misfortune. --Appletrees (talk)

Thank you; would you kindly moderate your tone? The two warnings were due to your having removed a merge tag, twice, from an article. Badagnani (talk) 18:29, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You gave "TREE SPAMMING warnings" which are perfectly personal attacks against me. Your original researches/ introducing false information, personal attacks, spamming are big no-nos for Wikipedia. --Appletrees (talk) 18:35, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would you kindly refrain from using all capital letters, and also provide diffs so that I may evaluate your claims? Thanks very much, Badagnani (talk) 18:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please try to REMEBEMBER what you did to others. That is my generous advice to you. --Appletrees (talk) 18:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would you kindly refrain from the use of all capital letters? Thank you, Badagnani (talk) 18:57, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I left the following on User talk: Camaron --"User:Appletrees is persistently accusing me of "making personal attacks" just as he did against User:Badagnani, but now he's claiming that my personal page is "directed at him." He tells me that his "Watchlist" is clearly proof that I am editing articles "directed at him," but I can state categorically that I have never read or seen his Watchlist--I simply don't care. Any assistance you can provide would be appreciated. -WikiSkeptic (talk) 17:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)" -WikiSkeptic (talk) 17:48, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]