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Welcome!

Hello, CarolSpears, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Thanks for the welcome and the little bits of helpful information found around this wikipedia was an enlightening read this morning. I have one question, who is {{{art}}} and what did I do for him? -- Carol 18:59, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

That little bit of code allows the bestower of the welcome message to optionally include an article name (hence "art") which would then recognize a particular contribution. So, the basic template, as I typed it in, looks like this:

{{subst:welcome}} ~~~~

And, when I save the page, it expanded out to what you see above, along with my sig. However, I could have left one like this:

{{subst:welcome|art=1984}}, which would then become:

Welcome!

Hello, CarolSpears, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially what you did for 1984. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

• The five pillars of Wikipedia
• How to edit a page
• Help pages
• Tutorial
• How to write a great article
• Manual of Style

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!

The kinds of code that can be programmed into these templates can get quite complex, and I don't pretend to know how to create it, but it's fun to use! AKRadecki^Speaketh 22:56, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Heheh, so in short, at least in my case, {{{art}}} was a few days ago "remembering the Reagan years" while today it would be more like linking "Raisin_bran to Bran". These templates are perhaps more fun than I first imagined. I think I get it! Thanks again! Carol 23:24, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot 23:30, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Carol! Thanks for adding pictures to Commons and to Wikipedia article -- you've got some good photos of less visited places, which are especially welcome.

A couple of ideas that may help you:

• You can use the {{commonscat}} template to link directly to a Commons category, instead of using {{commons|Category:Whatever}} so readers don't have to see "Category:" in the commons thingy.
• When you add new stuff to commons, you may wish to add new articles, instead of new categories. Don't worry, either is acceptable! You don't have to change what you've done. But, when you add an article, you can add your own informative captions to each photo using the <gallery> command, like this:

• 
  Larch Mountain with the Mount Hood National Forest
• 
  Mounument Rock Wilderness in the Malheur National Forest
• 
  Lower Strawberry Lake in the Malheur National Forest

• If you are interested in contributing to articles about Oregon, Montana, Arizona, or about Mountains in general, check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon, Wikipedia:WikiProject Montana, Wikipedia:WikiProject Arizona, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Mountains, respectively. WikiProjects are voluntary groups of editors who are all interested in a particular subject, and discuss what needs to be done to improve articles on that subject.

Welcome again! hike395 14:33, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The first thing that I read about how to show that there is an image collection available at the commons was Tip #13 which itself was confusing because it said to use one template via another template. As a user, I really dislike the gallery pages at the commons. As a contributer, I was told (warned or kindly reprimanded) that the commons is not for encyclopedic text. As a more seasoned contributer, I find the gallery pages very daunting. For example, if I take a very nice photograph of (for example) a flower I know to be a goldenrod, if I want to upload it properly to the commons, I seem to need the equivalence of a biology Phd to be able to put the image into the proper domain, class, fil-whatever and sub-genre there in the gallery. Probably there are enough biology Phd's with a lot of time on there hands to do this -- but all I wanted to do was to contribute a photograph that might have been good for use somewhere.

I was only briefly in Oregon and never in those other states. I wanted to move images from here to the commons. Possibly, the reason that no one had done that is because they now have their own wiki?

Personally, I find the Name_of_City_(State_Name) convention to be just plain wrong. While I will not make an effort to change it, I will probably not contribute much to it and definitely I appreciate this little space here to have my say about it. I can see no value to this other than giving a few hackers with regrex experience something to do once. It is awkward for computers and wrong syntax for language. Here is an example from my own life. When I was seventeen years old, I had a roommate in the college dorm from Yemen. She was just learning English and when she would leave, I would consider what it would be like to move through that little corner of the world without knowing much of the language. I would wish her "Good Luck" as she departed everyday and really really mean it. Then, 3 to 6 months later, she started to wish me the same thing when I would leave. I felt bad because I had presented something as a typical saying to her and it wasn't. Possibly through the lens of time, I can give her some credit and know that I probably needed some of the same luck that I was wishing for her -- but that is not the reason I write about it now. The point is that a wrong, awkward and stupid convention is being used here. I find it wrong, awkward and stupid.

Thanks for taking the time to help me work through it!

After all of that, I must say that shortly after I sign this and leave this page, there will be an example of perhaps the coolest thing that wikipedia has to offer a new user like me -- SineBot, my only friend here! SineBot a blessed companion who seems to understand and fixes my signature thingie! -- Carol 22:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

And then I am confused about which advice I am getting is for what wiki. I would type a smilie here if I knew in advance what it would do. I was definately confused between the template to mark for deletion and the template for the commons box and typing boldly while confused here. Sorry. -- Carol 04:59, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: your upload of this picture to Commons. Good call. Dr.K. 23:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, thanks and now I am nervous that I should leave word with people when I do these things. In an effort to not lose information, I am not mentioning the original uploader. Is this a problem? If it is, I might have a lot of problems.... -- Carol 00:46, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

No way. There is no obligation on your part to mention the original uploader. This is not an article that you edit and there is no requirement for crediting any previous uploader, except I would think if the picture was their own. I only commented because your idea to upload it to Commons was excellent, not because I wanted any credit. Uploading it to Commons helps many more people in various projects around the world and this happens to be a picture of great historical importance. Keep up the great work. Take care. Dr.K. 01:37, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, CarolSpears.
Thank you for your message and for nice words about my writings. To tell you the truth I'm not sure what writings did you mean. I'm afraid I'm not exactly the right person to ask such questions. My English is very limitted. I think you've done a great job with the image and the article and I do not think it is April fool day. In my opinion FP mostly cares about quality while the value of the image falls much behind. Best regards.--Mbz1 22:35, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They are kind of funny there, actually. Here, I got to think that I am the lady with the brochures. This one intertwined with the television and another 'strike' I have been on, and I actually considered that perhaps someone was fired for being a thoughtless anti-smoker where he/she shouldn't have been. Then on the day that I uploaded two images of grease pencils I was treated to two grease pencils and nested measuring spoons as well; most definately not Quality or Featured images and, by the definition there, very boring.

There was an earthquake here where I am staying. It was not big, 5.6 but it was close, about 15 miles away and it felt like a car hit the house I am in. There is a rumor I heard about animal behavior -- that the animals know before the earth quakes and leave the area and it certainly looked like the real photographers (those usually present at commons:Category:Zoology darn, that Category used to be where the Featured Pictures Candidates were 'filed') left before that day as well.

My question about the satellite -- NASA has several images that I am certain are fake beyond what was ever necessary and one that is just plain wrong. It is so very very wrong. About the satellite; I was searching for information when I found this APOD from an April Fools day. Look at this EPOD 2007-04-01, this EPOD 2006-04-01, this EPOD 2005-04-01, this EPOD 2004-04-01, etc.

In real life, people seem really nice and mostly honest. -- Carol 02:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot 03:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did make it there once, but the lighting wasn't the greatest. I found a couple more on Commons:

• 
  Here is the best that I could do
• 
  Better light, but unfortunate crop
• 
  Another ok shot
• 
  Here is the bridge that is visible at the top of my photo.

Hope you enjoy. The next time that I am near there I will be sure to give it another go. Thanks, Cacophony 05:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the photographs and the search. Such a beautiful collection, and an interesting destination for the year 2031 for a camera :) -- Carol 05:40, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

After seeing your note on my talk page I looked at your user page. I noticed a "sock puppet" template that appears to be used to address behavioral issues in users. I looked at the history of your page to see who added it and realized you put it there. Judging by your edit summary I assume the purpose of this addition was to let people know the account you used in another wiki in the project.

I would suggest that you replace it with a custom written note, because as it is it makes it appear that you have been labeled as someone who has violated the Wikipedia:Sock puppetry policy. I do not think this was your intention. Sam Barsoom (talk) 01:00, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is kind of fun though. Often a bot follows me around, telling me to use the four tilde and I did use the four tilde. I was thinking that they could fix the template so it doesn't break my signature. -- Carol 02:58, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Btw, I am a sockpuppet here. I could write with reliability about a 1973 Cheech and Chong album (I suspect that my parents would have bought it even if it had had the Parental Advisory label on it then) because I really am one of the probably rare people who saw the first edition of that album and is still young enough to keep at it on wikipedia. Other than that, even at commons, I am not so good with identifying image altering problems as I should be given my 10 years with GIMP. Sorting and categorizing images is good for me right now. -- Carol 03:08, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, I asked a philosophically oriented question of you on my talk page in response to your comment. Sam Barsoom (talk) 01:00, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I really enjoyed those few moments spent on your talk page. Whenever I start thinking about red is red problems, I also think about Germans because after seeing only a few of their movies, my theory for the reason that there is no German comedy that the rest of the world considers comedy is because their language is so literal and the only thing that makes them laugh is reducing something to 'red is red' -- which others find disturbing and not funny by the time the evolution of the story takes you there. -- Carol 02:58, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Up His Nose requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Merenta (talk) 20:20, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lets take Mona Lisa out of the Louvre and off from wikipedia because the painting is so small also! -- Carol 20:36, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

You first! :) Seriously, I've addressed this on Talk:Up His Nose. There's nothing wrong with the subject matter - it just needs context. Merenta (talk) 20:54, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can't revert a delete, but an improved article would be fine.

"Up His Nose" is a short yet eloquent commentary on either the expense of putting drugs in ones nose, or observations made while babysitting. First appearing on the 1973 album Los Cochinos, the listener is allowed to infer their own experiences to enhance the comedic editorial of this track. “ Trains and planes and boats he put:

Up his nose. ”

That was the gist of the article. Happy editing.

Thank you! -- Carol 01:47, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I saw that you needed help with your userpage and I would be happy to. Just tell me what you want in it. Bernstein2291 10:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was kind of a joke, actually. I put the sockpuppet template on it and that template broke my signature here -- or at least I thought it was that template. So I put the 'fix my page' template on it because it was the closest template I could find to say, 'can you please fix the templates because they break my signature?' Then, somebody removed the sockpuppet template and told me not to use the admins templates for personal use like that. I am a sockpuppet here of myself at the commons, and it wasn't clear when I was looking at the user templates that some were for admins and some weren't. Honestly, I have been reprimanded often in my life, but that was one of the more fun times of reprimand that I can remember.

I actually spent some time on the commons user page commons:User:Carol and I really don't want to spend a lot of time with stuff like that, so anything you want to do, feel free.

That is an interesting offer. Thanks. -- Carol 10:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi carol, you're here too, I see. I like your user page, it made me laugh. Thank you for doing my work by the way on the "matrimonial" flower. -- Slaunger (talk) 14:12, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your pretty little chickweed was very easy to find a place for here. Alves blue mosquito was a challenge, especially when reading about that one particular species. Thanks for noticing. -- Carol 14:17, 13 December 2007 (UTC) <-- I might be the only one here who enjoys the broken signature. Carol

Re: User talk:Black Falcon#intro is no longer missing from redtop page

Wow! I didn't expect an immediate reply – it is usually several weeks to a few months from the time a cleanup/maintenance tag is placed on an article to the time the issues are addressed – and I am pleasantly surprised. :) Anyway, I've taken off the template and made some other minor changes, mostly with regard to text formatting. All in all, I commend you for a well-written article! Black Falcon ^(Talk) 17:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]