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Articles created/expanded on December 8

Critical Foreign Dependencies Initiative

... that information on the Critical Foreign Dependencies Initiative list leaked by WikiLeaks was stated by some companies on the list to be "out of date and full of errors"?

Created by Wnt (talk). Nominated by Silver seren (talk) at 02:10, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Wnt and I have worked really hard on expanding and referencing this article over the past few days and we're proud to bring it here now. Silverseren^C 02:10, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. As an administrator monitoring this article, I would point out that there continue to be active disputes about the sourcing of this article, which disputes have overflowed to multiple dispute noticeboards. Many of the disputes involve sourcing, and the article continues to contain a great deal of information that is either unsourced, or from questionable sources. Considering the active nature of the disputes, I do not think it would be wise for this article to be a DYK candidate at this time. --El onka 04:42, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I ask the reviewing DYK user to look over the article and determine themselves whether there is "unsourced information". The only information that is currently unsourced is from the factual list from the primary source (the factual list is also supported, however, by two secondary sources at the beginning line of the list, so it doesn't really matter). User:Elonka has been actively pursuing the removal of the primary source in the article (please see here), however, the primary source has nothing to do with the "unsourced sections" or whatever "questionable sources" that Elonka is referring to. And please note that all of the overflowing disputes, save the original one at ANI that isn't active anymore, since there haven't been any new responses for an entire day (see here), have been initiated by User:Elonka. Furthermore, the discussion at AN is currently about the use of links to classified documents on Wikipedia. An RfC will likely be drafted soon, but that has little to do with this article. If you would like the primary source to be removed from the article for the period that this DYK nomination is up, I am okay with that as well. Silverseren^C 05:10, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. The use of "as an administrator" is very unadministrator-like, since there is no current consensus for your opinion on classified document links, so please don't try and push your rank at DYK. You should be asking things as a user here. Silverseren^C 05:10, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another user has made a fairly good summation in terms of User:Elonka's above comment. You can find that user's summation on Elonka's talk page, here. Silverseren^C 05:36, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, Elonka needs a {{trout}} for using that as ammunition for their POV; terrible behaviour. Most of the source arguments are just wiki-lawyering at this stage I think. The others have done extensive work sourcing the article. --Errant ^(chat!) 09:34, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The comment that "all of the overlowing disputes ... have been initiated by User:Elonka" is not accurate. For a complete list of where the sourcing issues are being discussed, see Wikipedia:AN#On linking to classified documents. --El onka 14:46, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I wish to assure people that there is no unsourced information in the article. Some people believe that the full text of the "2008 Critical Foreign Dependencies Initiative (CFDI) list", a document prepared by the Department of Homeland Security in collaboration with other federal agencies, should be counted as a primary source. It is still a source. We cite it via original Wikileaked cable to the Secretary of State which included it, a Business Insider article which reprinted it in full (and two others more obscure), and a host of sources that Silverseren collected which list the items in one country or province. However, I disagree with Silverseren about any compromise involving removing the primary source while the DYK is up - it is the most definitive source. We should not make a new article worse while exposing it to new editors, nor accede to calls for censorship with no basis in law nor policy nor current practice. Wnt (talk) 15:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Wnt, this has nothing to do with censorship, it has to do with proper sourcing, and creating an article which reflects positively on the project. There have been strong concerns expressed by multiple editors about the sourcing on the article, as well as about the large amounts of "laundry list" information. Rather than continuing to argue that you are right and any dissenters are wrong, better would be to listen to the concerns, and modify the article accordingly in an attempt to find a compromise. --El onka 16:11, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone back and forth with you in several forums about whether a primary source is a source. I think WP:Primary is clear enough. Many articles like U.S. State Department list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations use a list based entirely on one single primary source, without demands that each and every organization on the list has to be cited to a newspaper. WP:Notability is applied to articles, not to each and every item on a list. Even so Silver seren heroically dug up reams of secondary sources -- and then the argument becomes that because a secondary source quotes a primary source the information is still primary anyway, which means it's not a source! Just not true. Wnt (talk) 18:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To be clear, I am not an editor of this article, and am simply trying to ensure that the article stays in accordance with Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Right now the article is attempting to reproduce, pretty much verbatim, a section from a leaked classified document. Concerns have been raised by other editors both as to whether it is appropriate to use that document as a source, and whether it is appropriate to include all of the information from that document on Wikipedia, especially considering that the classified document is the only source for some sections, and that those sections did not receive any coverage in reliable secondary sources. Discussions are ongoing at the talkpage, and a new Centralized RfC was just opened: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Use of classified documents. Because the sourcing of the article is in dispute, and because there are questions of legality of using the classified document, I think it would be extremely unwise to banner this article on the mainpage of Wikipedia in the DYK section until after the disputes are resolved. --El onka 17:59, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the most recent consideration of this issue at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Use of classified documents appears to be strongly supporting the legitimacy of the Wikileaks source, like many such discussions before it. Wnt (talk) 18:29, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that the RfC was just launched a few hours ago, it's a bit premature to say that it's supporting one thing or another. I am also very concerned by this demeanor that you are using this article, and Wikipedia, to make some kind of political point.[1] Wikipedia is not a battleground, and DYK should not be used to promote controversial views. --El onka 21:01, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's a response to a different sort of conversation on my talk page, and expresses my hopes for publication of the article. I did not impose that point of view into the article. I believe every editor has a personal point of view, and should not feel afraid to admit it. Wnt (talk) 04:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Elonka, it's obvious to uninvolved bystanders that you are on a crusade to stop or limit the use of the Wikileak documents, and to limit their visibility in cases where you have failed to stop their use. Avoiding editing of the article does not make you uninvolved. The RfC so far strongly endorses use of the documents. You may act in what you feel is best for the encyclopaedia, but either your definition of "best" is not shared by the community, or we disagree on the impact of using these documents. Please stop spreading this discussion beyond the 25 fora it already is in, and in particular, please stop waving your adminship around like a magic wand in a content dispute. Admins have no special privileges with respect to content discussions. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 17:04, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the best approach here will be to wait and see how the RFC turns out, as we do for AFDs. Gatoclass (talk) 12:09, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LOL does Elonka work for the CIA?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:21, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, I've verified the hook and think the article is good to go. It looks as if the RfC is pretty clearly going to decide using classified docs is ok and unless I'm mistaken, the article doesn't even directly reference any material from WL. Does anyone have any specific objections to this being promoted? SmartSE (talk) 17:29, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anything that's got coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources is of course fine, but the unsourced elements should be removed, and there have been requests on the talkpage that some of the list parts would be better presented as prose. --El onka 07:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Which parts are unsourced? The list is referenced off the Business Insider AFAICT and then has extra references for a lot of it as well. Maybe prose would be better, feel free to fix it, but this isn't GAN or FAC and it clearly meets all of our selection criteria. SmartSE (talk) 11:30, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Business Insider is a blog, and not a particularly solid source. As for fixing the article, editors have tried to remove unsourced and poorly sourced information, and they just get reverted. Warnings have been issued to the editors who were re-inserting unsourced information, but it's clear that the article is not yet in a stable state. Regarding the RfC, participation in it has been limited so far, with substantial participation by editors who are involved in the Wikileaks disputes, so I don't believe it would be wise to say that it yet reflects a broad community consensus. For example, look at this discussion at WP:ELN, where the general consensus among uninvolved editors seemed to be that the links to Wikileaks documents should be removed. As for why the RfC is so far saying something different than WP:ELN, I am guessing that this is because there are more involved than uninvolved editors participating, perhaps because many established editors are away for the holidays, so haven't had time to participate at the RfC yet. Ultimately, as regards the DYK question, there is no deadline, so I am in agreement with Gatoclass that the wisest course of action here might be to simply wait for the RfC to run its course. --El onka 19:09, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't there a discussion at RSN which said that BI was ok to use though? You're saying there is unsourced material, but aren't pointing out what it is... can you please state what is unsourced so that something can be done? Your claim that it is unstable is false, there have been 7 edits to the article in the last week and regardless, rightly or wrongly, stability isn't a criterion for DYK. Regarding the ELN and the RFC - as I thought I made clear before, they are irrelevant to this article, as it does not contain any links to cables, only secondary sources which discuss them. WP:DEADLINE is about completing the project, when it comes to DYKs there is indeed a deadline, otherwise it wouldn't be right to say "From Wikipedia's newest articles:" (there are notable exceptions, but this doesn't seem to be a case to apply one to me). SmartSE (talk) 20:00, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion at RSN about Business Insider was mostly between involved editors, and there weren't sufficient uninvolved voices to really point to a consensus either way. My own opinion that it is a blog comes from the fact that, as can be seen at the Business Insider article, it has won "best blog" awards. As for the unsourced elements, these are in the list section of the CFDI article: elements which have no sources, and there are even comments at the talkpage stating that secondary sources could not be located for those sections. If the unsourced and poorly sourced (meaning to challenged primary sources or dubious sources such as blogs) sections are removed, I think that would help to address concerns. --El onka 06:06, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A "blog" is not inherently unreliable and there are criteria for determining reliability. The Business Insider is apparently notable, professionally operated and edited, and is quoted by other reliable news sources (such as The New York Times) leading me to believe that it's a sufficiently reliable source. This is not the place to dispute an RSN consensus just because you don't like it. - Dravecky (talk) 09:58, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, it's not as if it some random person's blog. We need to also consider whether it is an RS for what it is referencing anyway, rather than whether the whole site is an RS or not. When I do so, it is clearly an RS since it is copying a primary source, which officials have indirectly confirmed is real. As I'm now trying to explain for the third time, the whole list is referenced to BI (ref 21) and then there are extra references for many of them as well. It could be argued that the article is in fact a linkfarm since we could get away with most of them and only reference BI for the whole of the list. Removing sections like that about Japan would create a bias towards coverage in western media which is clearly not appropriate. As I still can't find any problems with the article and because the RfC is irrelevant to this article at present, I am boldly approving the article.

SmartSE (talk) 17:49, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that you yourself are an involved editor in the Wikileaks topic area, Smartse, I do not think that you should really be the one making that decision. There are many agenda-driven editors in this topic area right now, there is an ongoing RfC, and edit wars at multiple articles. It is not appropriate for you to force one of the disputed articles onto the Wikipedia mainpage, over objections by other editors. --El onka 18:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't forced anything anywhere, I've just indicated that there are no reasons why this shouldn't be displayed on the main page and it's up to others to move it to prep and then the main page. The fact that I've edited WL articles is irrelevant to my ability to review an article against DYK criteria and nearly all the edits I have made in the area have been general maintenance, rather than trying to push some POV as your comment insinuates. You appear to be the only editor who doesn't agree, but you don't seem to be able explain why, other than that you don't like the idea. SmartSE (talk) 20:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have explained multiple times: (1) There are editors who disagree with the state of the article, but who get reverted when they try to change things; (2) There is an ongoing RfC; (3) The RfC has a great deal of participation from involved editors, but is not matching up with other discussions that occurred among uninvolved editors, such as at WP:ELN; (4) There appears to be decreased participation in the RfC right now because of the holidays; (5) I am not the only one who has suggested waiting (see above comment by Gatoclass); (6) There appears to be an attempt by some editors to use Wikipedia as a battleground to make a political point, by reproducing contents of classified documents here. It's one thing for there to be a dispute about this, it's another for something as controversial as leaked classified information, sourced only to primary sources, suddenly appearing on Wikipedia's mainpage in the DYK section. I am of the strong opinion that this would be extremely unwise, especially since there have been prior discussions strongly objecting to the use of classified documents as sources, the RfC is still ongoing, and the WMF has not yet weighed in on the issue of legality. So rather than pushing this article through to the mainpage over objections, let's please take our time and make sure we're getting things right. --El onka 03:09, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There's a difference between "caution" and "stalling". Can we please come to a decision on this nomination? - Dravecky (talk) 03:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Given that there's an open RfC that directly relates to this, it seems reasonable to continue to wait, just as we would if there were an open AfD discussion. It certainly seems to me that the RfC is likely to be closed in a manner that will support us running this, but I see no reason not to continue to wait for the actual closing. cmadler (talk) 13:35, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, since that RfC opened on December 14, in all likelihood it will close thirty days later on January 13, 2011, while most AFDs close in a mere 7 days. Could we at least have a carefully crafted hook ready to go on that distant day? - Dravecky (talk) 14:11, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am in agreement that we should probably wait until after the RfC. However, there is another possible compromise: simply remove the information from the article that is in dispute, and then it would probably be fine to proceed to DYK. The issues, as I understand them, revolve not around the prose of the article, but the "laundry list" section that is reproducing the classified section verbatim, as well as the link in the External links section that directs to an IP which is supposedly mirroring the stolen classified document. If those were removed (the list and link), at least temporarily, I doubt there would be any objections to the article appearing on the Wikipedia mainpage. That way the DYK could proceed, and the RfC could proceed on its own. --El onka 16:33, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since those are whole sections, do you think it would work to just comment them out, even just for the time it's linked from the Main Page? If the problem can be solved so easily, it would be nice to go ahead and run this hook. cmadler (talk) 20:20, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I think that would be fine, but we should probably check with the editors at that article's talkpage (I am not one of the editors). So I'd say go ahead, and mention it at the talkpage. If no one objects in a reasonable amount of time, then we could proceed with the DYK. One of my concerns is that the commenting out might just result in another revert war, but it's worth a try! --El onka 00:12, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What section is in dispute? The only parts of the list that don't have references as of yet is Japan, some of China, and then one or two others here and there in the list. Everything else is referenced to reliable sources. I strongly object to commenting out the list just because of User Elonka's dislike of it, when so many other users have expressed both here and in the RFC that there isn't a problem with it. Silverseren^C 02:02, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They are referenced though aren't they - just to a secondary source Elonka says is unreliable, even though we can be fairly sure it is correct. I've noticed that the BBC linked directly to the cable using the same link that we have in the article at the moment. If such a strong source has done so, I don't really see why we shouldn't, they evidently consider it reliable as well, so we could use this as a primary source for the list (as was done before). I don't see how hiding the content that isn't liked for the time it is on DYK would help either - sure we should make sure that articles on the main page meet proper standards, but that means that the content either belongs in the article or doesn't, not that it is hidden for 6 hours when most people will read it. SmartSE (talk) 11:57, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC did not reproduce the cable verbatim. But that's not the point here, to re-debate the issue of whether the link is appropriate, that's something for the RfC and/or the WMF to figure out. For now, is it really worth prolonging the dispute and stalling the DYK over this? Why not simply comment out the sections that are in dispute, let the DYK proceed, and then see how the RfC turns out as to whether those sections should be re-included? --El onka 20:12, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So...we're going to comment out Japan and China? That seems a little weird. Though I suppose it must be done, since all of the other places have reliable sources in abundance and those two countries just didn't feel like making news reports on the subject. Their loss, I suppose. (Hint: This is sarcasm) Silverseren^C 23:03, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 11

Sino-Burmese War (1765-1769)

... that Burmese army under King Hsinbyushin and General Maha Thiha Thura inflicted over 70,000 casualties to a much larger force of Qing Dynasty during Sino–Burmese War (1765–1769)?

Alternate suggestion for the hook ALT1 ... that Qing invasions of Burma claimed the lives of more than 70,000 Chinese soldiers and assured independence of Burma and the rest of South East Asian nations?

Created by Soewinhan (talk), Hybernator (talk). Self nom at 12:25, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Created in 11th, expanded more than two times (to 7,000 words) and, created and added several images during the last five days. (24-29 Dec).. By the way, the war started in December and ended in December. Soewinhan (talk) 13:55, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 16

V-2 rocket facilities of World War II

... that there were multiple V-2 rocket facilities in World War II?

Created by Target for Today (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 14:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, although would be more compelling if it hooked the fact that the facilities had to be moved several times. Suggested alternative hook:

... that Nazi Germany moved their V-2 rocket facilities several times during World War II due to Allied action?

however this would require the addition of a couple more in-line references

Ivolocy (talk) 12:20, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree that either of these so-called "hooks" are worth knowing (the fact that the bunkers were abandoned is more notable than some facilities were moved--few of which were ever operationally used). The most notable fact associated with the article is that

...'Nazi Germany's V-2 rocket facilities of World War II extended from France (Cherbourg) to the Ukraine (Pinsk Marshes), yet all Robot Blitz V-2 launches were from transportable firing tables used by mobile batteries.'

Also, there are ~30 citations already, so it is not clear to what particular "couple more" would be needed for the vague "hooks", above. Perhaps the "couple more" claim is regarding that A, B, ... F, ... Z level I've seen associated with some articles, but I doubt the wikicommunity will be updating the article for such a better assessment anytime soon. In my case I've noticed some articles that are highly inaccurate and need work to support readability, so that is my priority for editing. For example, I have quite a bit of Georg Rickhey info ready to post as an article, but I just noticed that appears to be prohibited because of a 2007 administrator's deletion for some reason. Ah, bureaucracy ... Target for Today (talk) 17:46, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Target for Today, if you have good materials for a new Georg Rickhey article to replace the old, unwanted version, please be encouraged to (re)start the article. If it's longer than 1500 characters, don't forget to nominate it for DYK. If you self-nom, you can make up your own hook, a hook to your liking. Please note that we volunteers at DYK don't know the materials as well as you do, so please help us out and place the footnotes at the end of the sentences which contain the same facts in the hook. This helps us verify facts before the hooks go on MainPage. If they are superfluous, you can remove them later. If the footnotes are not there at the time of the DYK nomination, someone will ask for a "couple more" -- often, it's more about placement of footnotes than adding more refs. Hope this helps. --PFHLai (talk) 22:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response, but based on all the wikibureaucracy I've seen so far, I'm confident there's a wikirule about subverting an administrator's action. Nevertheless, please feel free to notify the admin who deleted Georg Rickhey. I good sign that I won't be admonished or punished is if a redirect is created to Mittelwerk or Mittelbau-Dora, which have the notable fact about him:

...Georg Rickhey was the World War II General Director of Nazi Germany's Mittelwerk V-2 rocket factory and was acquitted of war crimes against forced laborers in the 1947 Andrae Trial.? Target for Today (talk) 14:08, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2: ... that Nazi German V-2 rocket facilities extended from Cherbourg, France, to the Pinsk Marshes, Ukraine, yet all Robot Blitz V-2 rockets were launched from transportable firing tables with mobile batteries? --PFHLai (talk) 22:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that the change from the bold fact (above) to the ALT2 recommendation changed the meaning to a claim which is not entirely true. Target for Today (talk) 14:08, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William Shernoff and Hurricane Val

... that the payout of $86.7 million related to William Shernoff's case against an insurance firm who failed to accept the damage of Hurricane Val (pictured) in American Samoa was stated to be "the largest insurance bad faith verdict in the state of California in 1995"?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 12:22, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Img added

Probably needs shortening, if somebody could reword it..♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:28, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate suggestion for the hook ALT1 Hook ... that an insurance firm who refused to honour damages of Hurricane Val (pictured) in American Samoa in the case of William Shernoff known as "the largest insurance bad faith verdict in the state of California in 1995” paid up $86.7 million? -- N.V.V. Char ^Talk. 23:44, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article for Severe Tropical Cyclone Val checks out ok in regard to length and date and is clearly ready to appear on the main page. The issue I have with the hook and with the article about William Shernoff is that the claim regarding "the largest insurance bad faith verdict in the state of California in 1995" appears to come directly from the website for Shernoff's law firm and most of the rest seems to be based on a puff piece from a publication called the Beverly Hills Times that does not appear to be the most discriminating of sources. The Shernoff article should have better sources and the claim in the hook needs to be based on a more reputable and independent source, in addition to working on rewording the hook to make it a bit clearer. Alansohn (talk) 01:40, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate suggestion for the hook ALT2 Hook ... that Severe Tropical Cyclone Val caused $250 million in damage? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:13, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 (as renumbered) checks out. Is there any way we can resolve the issues with William Shernoff to get the double hook? Alansohn (talk) 23:24, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Even after thorough search could not locate better references than what are used in the Shernoff article. Hence, the single article hook has been proposed.--Nvvchar. 13:08, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A dual hook should be possible, with a different hook. Let's try for ALT3:

ALT3 ... that a lawsuit brought by William Shernoff against an insurance firm that refused to pay claims for damage from Hurricane Val (pictured) in American Samoa yielded penalty payments of $86.7 million? --Orlady (talk) 14:20, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3 passes muster, and both articles are fine in terms of length and sourcing. Is there any reason to pipe Severe Tropical Cyclone Val to Hurricane Val, other than for length purposes? Alansohn (talk) 22:23, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The piping is based on the sustained winds of the Hurricane and has been piped by User:Jason Rees who is a specialist in Hurricanes.--Nvvchar. 02:12, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe ive got this wrong but i think He/She means in the hook is there any reason to call Val a hurricane bar the character limit, in which case i would personally say No but im not fussed either way.Jason Rees (talk) 02:32, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Biham-Middleton-Levine Traffic Model

Template:DYK Watch

... that the Biham-Middleton-Levine traffic model is the simplest model that has both phase transitions and self-organization (video right)?

Created by Purpy Pupple (talk). Self nom at 09:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

interesting! Victuallers (talk) 16:35, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The source for the statement says "is perhaps the simplest system...". Should the hook be modified to say something like "...is believed to be..." ? --İnfoCan (talk) 23:00, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a suggested ALT hook that would both soften the language and clarify that this is not claimed to be the world's simplest model of anything:

ALT1... that the Biham-Middleton-Levine model may be the simplest model of traffic flow that has both phase transitions and self-organization (video right)? --Orlady (talk) 16:26, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That seems perfectly fine to me, although it might be a bit redundant to specify "the simplest model of traffic flow", since the title of the article already makes it clear that it is a traffic model, and also the source only mentions that it "is perhaps the simplest system exhibiting phase transitions and self-organization," and not just the simplest traffic model. Purpy Pupple (talk) 03:33, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My concern is that phase transitions, self-organization, and models all exist in realms that have nothing to do with traffic. (For example, consider chemistry.) For me, putting the words "traffic flow" in the hook, but outside the noun-cluster article title, makes the hook sufficiently understandable that I am willing to click on the article link. Without that tiny amount of context, the hook is off-putting.
The hook is good (lengths, dates, and hook-fact source are OK), with the caveat that hook wording in the form "may be the simplest model" is needed. Also, I prefer ALT1 for reasons noted above. However, before this can go to the main page, the first paragraph of the article section "Phase transitions" needs an inline citation. Notably, a source is needed for the statement "Typically, the transition density is when there are around 32% as many cars as there are possible spaces in the lattice." --Orlady (talk) 04:56, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Inline citation added. Purpy Pupple (talk) 01:31, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 17

Sandy Eisenberg Sasso

... that Sandy Eisenberg Sasso is the first woman to have been ordained a rabbi in the Reconstructionist movement of Judaism?

5x expanded by Genevieve2 (talk). Nominated by CordeliaNaismith (talk) at 03:23, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, sourcing and history for article and hook all check out. Article is subject of AfD, which has been withdrawn by the nominator, but still must be resolved before migrating to the main page. Alansohn (talk) 04:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AfD has ended with article kept. OK to go now. Alansohn (talk) 01:29, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Aristotelis Goumas

... that the death of Aristotelis Goumas sparked outrage throughout the predominantly ethnic Greek region of Himarë?

Created by Athenean (talk). Self nom at 06:46, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article length and date both check out. However I have NPOV concerns about the hook; it is not really saying much, and uses the charged phrased "sparked outrage". It is difficult to gage "outrage" and while the reactions were rather fierce judging from the article, the phrase "sparked outrage" might be too strong, especially as the incident is relatively recent and the suspects have not yet been convicted. Intelligentsium 03:21, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"cause riots" instead? Athenean (talk) 02:17, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"in Albania" needs to be added! Johnbod (talk) 04:06, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That definitely, yes. It should be noted that the article is currently at WP:AFD, where, unfortunately, not arguments but the number of Greek or Albanian users that vote will decide its fate. I have NPOV concerns not only with the hook (it's overall tone and choice of words appears opinion-loaded to me), but also with the article itself. A particular problem is that mostly Greek sources have been used to reference important facts and only opinions from the Greek side seem to be represented in the Reactions section. Personally, I'd like to hear more opinions before we decide on the hook. — Toдor Boжinov — 16:14, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 18

When We Die As Martyrs

... that the song "When We Die As Martyrs" performed by Arab children choir Birds of Paradise has became a world-famous hit song?

Created by Jalapenos do exist (talk) and by Brewcrewer (talk). Self nom at 04:34, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have invited comment from the IPCOLL WikiProject here. Articles about songs where Arab children extoll the virtues of matyrs killing Israelis strike me as a place where we need to be extra careful about neutrality and invite wide participation in our deliberations. I make this comment without having come to any view of the article or the proposed hook. EdChem (talk) 12:07, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have some concerns about the claims made in the hook and the article, they do not seem adequately sourced. I would expect a "world-famous hit song" to have more news hits than news.google shows. un☯mi 13:18, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What a reasonable observation! BTW why it should be in a news? Not to compare the Beatles to birds of paradise, but is the Beatles "Yesterday" a world-famous hit song? Why there are so little news about it? --Mbz1 (talk) 15:00, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The cited claim "world-famous hit song" is dubious, and a poor description of the cited text "the song is a hit on Arabic and worldwide websites," which is quite frankly purely subjective. So the DYK fact is not clear, nor frankly is the notability of a YouTube phenomenon. The cited sources seem to make Bird of Paradise notable, however.--Carwil (talk) 14:07, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alt 1 ... that the song "When We Die As Martyrs", performed by Arab children's choir Birds of Paradise, has swept Arab satellite channels, becoming some of the most popular programming for Arab children?

Alt 1 is supported by this source--Mbz1 (talk) 15:00, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alt 2... that the song "When We Die As Martyrs" is performed by the Arab children's choir Birds of Paradise?

Alt 2 is supported by all the sources.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:00, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I took the liberty, Mbz1, of making minor grammatical changes to your ALT1 and ALT2. "Becoming some of" in ALT1 strikes me as off, but I don't know how to change it. Also, maybe "song" in ALT3 should be changed to "hit song" (supported by the Haaretz source and by others, I think). Jalapenos do exist (talk) 21:09, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Date, size and hook are verified. I like Alt1 the best. Good to go.--Broccoli (talk) 17:26, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Returned from queues. Reasons: (i) Christmas is not a good timing for this hook, (ii) these comments, (iii) I vaguely recall we decided that Broccoli is not to approve nominations by Mbz1, (iv) I also recollect that we should pay attention to noms contributed by Jalapenos do exist. Materialscientist (talk) 13:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I object to this censorship. Please restore the hook as scheduled. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 16:46, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quibble about ALT 1, may need re-wording: My reading of the hook is that the phrase "becoming some of the most popular programming for Arab children" is meant to refer to the choir but the present construction has it referring to the song. Perhaps I am incorrect. I leave it to others to consider. By the way, to repeat my view from WT:DYK, I am concerned about the balance of the article, which I leave for others to judge - and for the record, I think that Jalapenos' edits are a definite improvement. If others are satisfied with the policy compliant nature of the article, then of course it should be promoted into the queues. However, I remain of the view that after Christmas is more appropriate timing that during Christmas. EdChem (talk) 08:43, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the quibble: in the sources, "some of the most popular programming" does refer to the choir and not to the song. The original hook or ALT2 should be used, or the last part of ALT1 ("becoming...") can be removed. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 07:30, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 19

Zakopane Style architecture

... that Zakopane Style architecture became so popular that designs inspired by it were built in Warsaw, Łódź, and even a train station in Saldutiškis, Lithuania?

Created by Orestek (talk). Self nom at 02:56, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length verified. There is a footnote for the Zakopane building in Warsaw, but Łódź and Saldutiškis are unreferenced. What's the source for those two? --Dbratland (talk) 04:28, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a reference to the train station in the Polish Version of the train station in the Polish version of Saldutiskis's name, Sylgudyszki:

http://www.gnatowski.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=116&Itemid=118&lang=pl

As for the Łódź entry, I couldn't find references in English, However, the Zakopane Style building has not only plenty of references in Polish, but also its own Wikipedia article on Polish Wikipedia:

"Kamienica Jana Starowicza"

References from that page:

↑ Sławomir Krajewski, Jacek Kusiński, Ryszard Bonisławski, Spacer Drugi. Ulica Piotrkowska, Warszawa: Instytut Europejski, 2007, ISBN 978-83-924446-3-3.

http://www.mmlodz.pl/1147/2008/7/13/kamienica-pod-goralem-jak-nowa--Orestek (talk) 17:28, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please put the citations in the article, not here. Non-English sources are acceptable. IMHO, the nomination is close enough to 5 days to be accepted (see below) -- see Wikipedia:Did you know/New article. But first cite the hook. --Dbratland (talk) 17:57, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

... that Zakopane Style architecture, now seen as the traditional style of the Górals of Podhale in Poland, was invented as recently as the late 19th century?

Created by Orestek (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 23:09, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, age, content verified. Sources verify it was created in the 19th century, but the hook implies that it was extraordinary that it was created as recently as the 19th century. I'm not sure I get why that is extraordinary or which source says it was unusual for being created so recently. The Oxford Companion to Architecture says Zakopane 'speaks an unmistakable language of Polishness'. Maybe that could be made into a better hook? --Dbratland (talk) 02:12, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article was created on Dec.19th, and the article creator has self-nom'ed in the Dec.19th section above. --PFHLai (talk) 03:53, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've merged both discussions and hooks together. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 11:08, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not nominated within five days of creation/expansion. - PM800 (talk) 12:18, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Per D9, this can still be considered, and considering the definite lack of a backlog at the moment, probably should be considered. cmadler (talk) 18:37, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm now satisfied that the first hook is now cited per AGF, and it was nominated close enough to 5 days. --Dbratland (talk) 21:50, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Koor, Indonesia

... that Koor in West Papua has been proposed to become part of a protected nature reserve protecting important leatherback sea turtle nesting grounds?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 07:40, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x, date and references verified, tweaked the hook wording a little bit. You're at 1432 characters, however, please expand it just a little bit further :) An unusual case of a 5x under 1500 chars. — Toдor Boжinov — 14:06, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nono. If you check the text, it is the prose which has been expanded more than 5 fold. Yep just checked expansion from 331 bytes to 4,116 bytes with is at least a x13 prose expansion. The infobox doesn't count. Oh you mean the length of the hook is actually undersized? Wow, that's unusual!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:09, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Er, no. TodorBozhinov means that the article is undersized. The number of bytes doesn't matter, it's the characters of prose. And in addition to the 5x expansion rule, articles also need to have at least 1500 characters. This article currently has 1432. - PM800 (talk) 14:28, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, 70 characters short of the 1500 minimum characters of prose, sorry I couldn't explain it better. Add a few more words and it will be all good :) — Toдor Boжinov — 15:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've made some amendments to the text to fix a few issues and clarify a couple of points. However, I'm uncertain about the source being used about the nature reserve proposal. I thought at first the source was something to do with the Indonesian government, but it just seems to be some bloke's personal website about sightseeing in Indonesia - see http://www.indonesiatraveling.com/index.htm . It doesn't look like a great source to me, and the lack of updates on the site's news page suggests that he's no longer updating it. Prioryman (talk) 21:21, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. It looks like a personal website to me, too. - PM800 (talk) 15:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 20

Frederick Jelinek, Milena Jelinek

... that the help of Cyrus Eaton, Jerome Wiesner and Nikita Kruschev was needed so that Frederick and Milena Jelinek could marry?

Comment: Frederick is my work (5x expansion, hopefully). Milena is a new article by Vejvančický. Circéus (talk) 01:01, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Circeus (talk), Vejvančický (talk). Self nom at 01:01, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed articles were Cootes Store, Virginia and Richmond Theatre fire, from December 15 (both have now gone on MP). Circéus (talk) 20:41, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Thomas M. Carnegie, now in the Template:Did you know/Queue. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:06, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Helixanthera schizocalyx

... that the hairless half-meter parasite Helixanthera schizocalyx was discovered by lepidopterist Colin Congdon on the lookout for loranths near the summit of Mozambique's Mount Mabu?

Created by Medeis (talk), JuneGloom07 (talk). Self nom at 00:51, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Currently under nomination at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#New species of Mistletoe The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 04:37, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That nomination was made by an editor who mentioned the discovery from a press release but took no action toward creating an article. I created this article and am entitled to nominate it for DYK.μηδείς (talk) 06:19, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, it seems highly unlikely the ITN nom will succeed. Circéus (talk) 01:19, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is not clear to me from the source that Congdon was specifically looking for mistletoe on Mount Mabu; it rather appears that he was part of a general biodiversity exploration expedition and that he recognized the shrub as new because he knows much about loranth plants. I also edited the hook to make clear what kind of parasite it is. Ucucha 12:59, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your good faith desire to correct the hook by adding the word "shrub", but it is fully accurate as written and was purposefully worded to increase curiosity in the reader. As for Congdon looking for mistletoes, the source says "Colin Congdon, a renowned East African butterfly specialist, who realised it was different from anything he had seen on mountains in Malawi and Tanzania. Lepidopterists pay particular attention to members of the Loranthaceae family as many species are specific hosts for a group of interesting butterflies." I am changing the word mistletoe to loranths to reflect that. μηδείς (talk) 22:07, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I read that, of course; it does not explicitly say he was looking for any plants there. Why not just remove the part "on the lookout for loranths" from the hook, which does not add anything? Ucucha 11:18, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Blauberge

... that the crest of the Blauberge (pictured), a mountain range in the Bavarian Alps, forms part of the border between Austria and Germany?

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 20:32, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could we get a cite on this statement? Also, the link to the Austrian mapping service doesn't seem to work.Mangoe (talk) 17:35, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The first 3 references all confirm the hook, but I have added them immediately after the relevant line in the article. The refs are:

Austrian Map Online by the Federal Office of Weights and Measures. Centre the map on the coords given in the article and zoom in to 1:50,000. It shows the crest of the Blauberg running from Wichtlplatte to Halserspitz along the Austro-German border.
Bayern Viewer by the Bavarian State Govt should display a clear map of the Blauberge, again showing the border running along the crest of the mountains.
Blauberge - Halserspitze at summitpost.org states "The northern limitation of Blauberge is Tegernsee valley, Weißach valley and Langenau valley ... Another borderline runs along the ridge crest: the German - Austrian border, marked with many white boundary stones."

Hope this clears it up. --Bermicourt (talk) 18:57, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

David L. Shirk Ranch

... that David Shirk, owner of the historic David L. Shirk Ranch (pictured) in southeastern Oregon, killed an employee of cattle baron Peter French in a dispute over a land claim?

Comment: See last paragraph on p. 58 for hook source.

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 02:18, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The hook source checks out. However, since he was acquitted in the death, I find that hook slightly problematic. How about this one:

ALT1... that the owner of the historic David L. Shirk Ranch (pictured) in southeastern Oregon, together with his brother, acquired about 50,000 acres (200 km2) of land and controlled much of the water in the valley? --Orlady (talk) 16:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't seem like ALT hook is as interetsing (i.e. "hookish") as orig hook; also, orig didn't say "murdered", it said "killed"; nevertheless, ALT version is fine with me.--Orygun (talk) 04:19, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I, too, find the first hook more interesting. Consider changing "killed" to "shot to death" for accuracy, however, the current wording may draw-in more readers. Location (talk) 01:02, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 21

British Institution

... that John Constable called the Superintendant of the British Institution (pictured) "a much greater man than the King—the Duke of Bedford—Lord Westminster—Lord Egremont, or the President of the Royal Academy"?

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 02:53, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

208 char hook is a problem. Please trim it. Suggested the 2nd pic, which IMO will look better. 5x expansion verified. 14KB well-referenced article. Lead article candidate, though the hook needs to be finalized.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 16:26, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I make the hook 198 chars - the "pictured" & leading ... are not counted I thought. The quote can't really be cut which doesn't leave much wiggle room. I suppose one could say ...William Seguier instead of "the Superintendant", but it's not as clear I think, & only saves about 2 chars. Would it help if I did a cropped version of the 1st pic, which is certainly the stronger image? Johnbod (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, crop would help.. if you wanted to shorten it then the middle three could be replaced by an ellipsis Victuallers (talk) 14:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That would rather destroy the hook! I see additional and uncertain rule E5 covers "(pictured)", so I'll stand on that. I've cropped the picture; to be clear we should go with the interior view imo. Johnbod (talk) 18:03, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lewis Strong Clarke

... that Lewis Strong Clarke established his innovative sugar plantation Lagonda in St. Mary Parish, Louisiana, and named it for a creek in Ohio?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 05:20, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, and hook are good, and the hook is supported by citation #1, which is what I'd call a reliable source. However, multiple segments of the article are unreferenced, and (more seriously) the sections based on citation #1 are very close to that source, which isn't PD. Even if the unreferenced segments are cited, I must oppose this article's appearance at DYK unless the citation #1-based parts are rewritten to avoid an excessively close paraphrase. Nyttend (talk) 16:34, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Text rewritten and rearranged. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:59, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Palace of Cortes, Cuernavaca

... that the Palace of Cortes in Cuernavaca, Mexico is the oldest conserved civil building in the continetal Americas, over 450 years old?

Created by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 01:44, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty cool, but isn't this the same as Palacio de Cortés? And any particular reason for the "Cuernavaca" disambiguation in the title? Are there other palaces of Cortes? Also, I can't see where in the body the hook is mentioned or cited, I can only find it in the lead, where there is no footnote. — Toдor Boжinov — 15:34, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, its the same. That page did not come up when I did a search. I merged the two articles and this still qualifies under 5x expansion. Sorry about that!Thelmadatter (talk) 20:21, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, that happens :) Can you please add a footnote for the hook reference (I can't find one). Also, why "Palace of Cortes, Cuernavaca" and not simply "Palace of Cortés" (with "é" and no city name)? — Toдor Boжinov — 12:00, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Its cited in the second paragraph of the "The colonial building" section. I put it with the name of the city because there are other buildings in central Mexico known and the palace or house of Cortes (see Coyoacán) As for the accent, it's always been a problem for me to put them on place names in English, although Hernan Cortes redirects to the page with the accents. If anyone wants to move it to a verion with the accent mark, no problem by me.Thelmadatter (talk) 01:06, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the belated response. I was only able to look at the two online sources you have provided for the statement, and they only say it is the oldest civil building preserved in Mexico, and one of the sources even says something along the lines of "oldest Hispanic civil building". Does "Ecos de Viaje/ Fortalezas de Mexico" support the "oldest conserved civil building in the continetal Americas" claim? My main concern is that pre-Columbian sites like Machu Picchu include many civil (as in "non-religious") buildings. Perhaps it would be safer to go with a less sensational hook :) — Toдor Boжinov — 19:13, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Larry Detwiler

... that after film work as a miniature effects and visual effects supervisor, Larry Detwiler progressed to serve as television director on the program CSI: Miami?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I reviewed entry O. E. Price under 12 December. -- Cirt (talk) 20:28, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is currently at 1528 prose; however, over 200 characters of it is quoted text, bringing it under the minimum required, Also, the hook is stated in the header, but not within the body of the article and is not yet cited Calmer Waters 05:43, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Spruce Production Division

... that the Spruce Production Division produced nearly 54 million board feet of spruce in Oregon for aircraft in World War I?

Created by Esprqii (talk · contribs), Tedder (talk · contribs), Orygun (talk · contribs), Valfontis (talk · contribs), Jsayre64 (talk · contribs), Another Believer (talk · contribs). Nominated by Jsayre64 (talk) at 18:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note this was moved to mainspace on 21 December 2010. The huge number of creators is because it was a special anniversary collaboration. tedder (talk) 19:06, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that during World War I the United States Army recruited over 28,000 soldiers for the Spruce Production Division and used them to harvest Sitka spruce in the Pacific Northwest? --Esprqii (talk) 19:30, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Length, history and sourcing for article have been verified. ALT1 is fine. The original hook needs to have a reference added in the article. Additionally, the article mentions both aircraft and ships as a use for the spruce, while the original hook only mentions aircraft. These issues should be readily addressable. I added a wikilink to explain the board foot as a unit of measurement to all of us non-lumberjacks / forest rangers. Alansohn (talk) 23:42, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added citations to the fact, but in reading them, it looks like the number was actually not quite 54 million, so I corrected the hook. I still like ALT1 a little better... --Esprqii (talk) 18:53, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I like ALT1 since it highlights Army's role in spruce logging operation, and that's what makes SPD unique; orig hook misses that connection.--Orygun (talk) 19:06, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would have had the original be ALT1, but at the time I had forgotten that it was ever on the talk page and I didn't remember what the hook was. :-) Jsayre64 (talk) 19:47, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Both hooks are fine now, thanks to the tweaks. Alansohn (talk) 01:31, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1st Provisional Marine Brigade

... that during its operational history, the 1st Provisional Marine Brigade has ranged in size from 1,200 men to almost 10,000?

5x expanded by Ed! (talk). Self nom at 05:54, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Great work! — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 18:07, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 22

Scutalus mariopenai

... that the orthalicid land snail Scutalus mariopenai (pictured) was described from Peru in 2010?

Created by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 12:21, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fails rule 1: most of the text derives from a free data source. Ucucha 12:54, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This rule is currently under discussion at WT:DYK#Inclusion of free data sources, and this hook nomination should not be removed until that discussion is concluded. Thanks, cmadler (talk) 21:02, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George Edmundson

... that the English clergyman George Edmundson worked for the British Government on the Boundary Arbitration between British Guiana and Venezuela?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 03:25, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The hook states that Edmundsom represented the British Government in the 2 disputes mentioned, which tends to imply that he was the arbitrator. While this may be the case, the reference is less explicit, stating only that he was employed in the disputes (employed by Government in British Guiana-Venezuelan Boundary Arbitration, 1896–99; also in British Guiana-Brazilian Boundary Arbitration, 1901–04). Is there another source that clarifies his role? To comply with the rules the citation should also be directly after the fact, not in the following sentence. Ivolocy (talk) 11:39, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair comment. I've added some more material and citations and corrected the hook to read "worked for". Moonraker2 (talk) 00:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 23

Evgenia Obraztsova

... that Evgenia Obraztsova, who appeared as a ballerina in the film The Russian Dolls, really is a principal dancer at the prestigious Russian Mariinsky Theatre?

Created by Elonka (talk). Self nom at 16:43, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Every paragraph needs a citation. - PM800 (talk) 16:53, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In particular, there is no citation for either the list of awards or the repertoire. Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 17:43, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Sources added. --El onka 01:13, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The assertion about her relationship with Vladimir Shklyarov appears to fail WP:BLP as potentially "contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced". Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 17:48, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Done Agreed. I had translated that from the French Wikipedia. I did find a source in the St. Petersburg Times that talked about their "intimate partnership", but that wasn't enough to justify the relationship section, so I have removed it. --El onka 01:13, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Reference [4], ballet.co magazine January 2007 is cited for, but does not support, the assertion "[Juliet] became her best known role". Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 17:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. I could have sworn I saw that term somewhere, but on looking for the sources, I couldn't find a specific quote, so I changed it to "one of her favorite roles." --El onka 01:13, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Common Sense Media

... that Common Sense Media protested the ESRB's rating downgrade of a revised version of Manhunt 2 from "Adults Only" to "Mature", since that version was still banned in the UK?

Created by BluWik (talk), MuZemike (talk). Nominated by MuZemike (talk) at 01:57, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed wording. Daniel Case (talk) 17:50, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(checked using DYKcheck) Everything checks out. --Dylan620 ^{(t • c • r)} 18:30, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Katima Mulilo

... that the Namibian town of Katima Mulilo saw its first car in 1940, long after the first plane landed there, and five years after it became the regional capital of the Caprivi Strip?

5x expanded by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 23:47, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: DYKCheck reports no 5x expansion but my manual count (1607 chars on Nov 8) does. --Pgallert (talk) 23:47, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expansion is fine (DYKCheck is now reporting it), but I have a few other concerns. The article says that the SWAPO Party regional office "was the only building at Katima at this time when the area consisted exclusively of pristine forests" but goes on to say "Katima Mulilo was very sparsely populated at that time. It had a missionary school run by the Seventh–day Adventists, and the small settlements were connected only by sleigh tracks." Did the missionary school operate outdoors? Also, more directly relevant to the hook, the article states that "All military supplies, people, and goods had to be flown in. The first car of the town came in 1940 and belonged to the air strip operator." We are never told when the first plane landed there, but it seems unlikely that it can have been more than 5 years before, since the town was just founded in 1935. cmadler (talk) 21:16, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi cmadler, thanks for your detailed review. The existing buildings were made from mud and grass. I would speculate that the school also operated in huts like these, and I have clarified in the article that the regional office was the first brick building. Regarding your hook concern, you're right, the "long" was not supposed to mean "longer than 5 years". I tried to make the hook interesting, in fact, the source does not say when the first plane landed. I deducted (without violating WP:OR, I hope) that building an airstrip in such a remote area and without much machinery would take several months, possibly a few years, and therefore "long". Perhaps the suggestion below that follows the available sources closer (although I would still prefer the original hook, thinking it is not too much of a stretch)? --Pgallert (talk) 09:24, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT 1 ... that the area around the Namibian town of Katima Mulilo is so remote and inaccessible that it had air traffic before it had cars?

How about ALT2 ... that the administrative offices of the Caprivi Region were once located beneath a giant baobab in Katima Mulilo that today is known as the "Toilet Tree"? If that works for you, please add an in-line citation supporting it at the end of the third sentance of the "History" section. cmadler (talk) 14:03, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reworded the article such that the reference is directly behind the hook claim. Tweaked ALT2 because there is no indication that the tree got its name already at that time. Thanks for the suggestion, ALT2 is fine for me. --Pgallert (talk) 18:19, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting second reviewer because ALT2 was suggested by cmadler, and neither s/he nor me should approve that one. --Pgallert (talk) 18:19, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Caves of Aruba

... that in the past, Arubans used the Caves of Aruba (pictured) for performing sacrificial services and holding confabulations, and sometimes also to hide in the caves during enemy attacks?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 02:18, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Nationalist Citizens' Party. --Rosiestep (talk) 08:49, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm leaning towards accepting this on the grounds of {{DYKtickAGFwithscript}}, but I just have one request: since the book used to cite the hook is on Google Books, how do you access its text? --Dylan620 ^{(t • c • r)} 01:56, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Timothy F. O'Keefe

... that although Timothy F. O'Keefe and his son Richard both participated in the Vietnam War, only Timothy survived?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 00:14, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is almost entirely uncited. 97198 (talk) 07:28, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:Did you know#Selection criteria, "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". Article is a very close paraphrase of http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/tfokeefe.htm. - Dravecky (talk) 23:13, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This rule is currently under discussion at WT:DYK#Inclusion of free data sources, and this hook nomination should not be removed until that discussion is concluded. Thanks, cmadler (talk) 18:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cited! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The so-called "Arlington National Cemetery" website is an unofficial site, as proclaimed on its home page, so what makes it a reliable source for the purposes of Wikipedia? - Dravecky (talk) 06:03, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also, article is "cited" almost entirely (14 of 17 cites) to the article of which it is a close paraphrase. - Dravecky (talk) 07:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Egyptienne (ship)

... that between 1799 and 1804, warships of the Royal Navy captured one French frigate and five different French privateers all with the name Egyptienne?

Created by Acad Ronin (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The sources and creation date of the article check out and the overall length of the article is ok, but it is a list, and technically only the non-list part of the article would qualify for DYK, which is only 300+ characters. I would be willing to let this one pass to DYK since I think it is an interesting fact, but maybe someone can give a second opinion? Also wikilinked privateer in hook. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 23:28, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree with the above. This is a new type of article that is based on the idea of a list. DYK will accept lists and is pleased to have them but there must be 1500 characters of clear text. It would be possible to rearrange this article to have 1500 chars that are not in bullets but I'm not sure if that would undermine its position as a "set index article" ... so "no" it needs 1500 chars of simple reffed text and then no problem. Victuallers (talk) 10:28, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Best I can do is to remove the bullet points. If that doesn't work, and it looks like it won't, then let's simply revert my changes and drop the article. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 22:32, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Horace M. Wade

... that Horace M. Wade is the former Vice Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Entire article is uncited. - PM800 (talk) 11:52, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's sort of implied that I took it from a public domain source. I can fix this to indicate which article but it would be redundant to add inline citations. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:Did you know#Selection criteria, "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". "Try to" may not sound like a firm rule, but I would reject this hook because the article is copied from http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=7486. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:02, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Citations are required; but yes, I would agree with Mandarax that this should be rejected anyways. - PM800 (talk) 20:11, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I can add citations later. I have gotten two articles on DYK though that were copied off of the source though so that is why I am mass creating articles then placing them here. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:55, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That two such entries had been allowed to slip by speaks to a weak review, not a change in policy. It would be better if you did not "create" a mass of articles by copying from public domain sources then expect a reward for creating them. - Dravecky (talk) 22:39, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't, I'm just wondering why I'm only being told about this now. Oh well. It's also cited by the way. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's "cited" almost entirely to the single article of which it is a close paraphrase. The only other citation is a single minor reference to an award named for him. - Dravecky (talk) 06:05, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Christian

... that in 1959 Baton Rouge Mayor Jack Christian moved Halloween to Oct. 30 to accommodate the LSU Tigers football game in which Billy Cannon scored an 89-yard touchdown against Ole Miss?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that in 1959 Baton Rouge Mayor Jack Christian moved Halloween to October 30 to accommodate the LSU Tigers football game against the Ole Miss Rebels?
(too much detail in original hook, mayor could not have known in advance about Cannon's run so it was not a factor in the decision to move Halloween) - Dravecky (talk) 20:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ascaridole

... that ascaridole (structure pictured) is an explosive and a major constituent of the oil of Mexican Tea?

Comment: ALT1 ... that ascaridole (structure pictured) is an explosive chemical? other suggestions are welcome - it is a fun nomination :-) Materialscientist (talk) 11:50, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 11:50, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x verified. Image needs a reference (a better source) IMO. "the primary constituent of the oil of Mexican Tea" is not cited. "Ascaridole is also present in epazote (or Mexican Tea, Dysphania ambrosioides formerly Chenopodium ambrosioides) where it constitutes between 1 and 70% of the plant's essential oil" is cited, but when it is 1% in some varieties, it may be a primary constituent. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 16:36, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Cited image, fixed article. 1% was wrong in two ways - it was 2% and it was content in the plant; whereas one source quotes 16 and some 40% in oil, others say 60-70%, thus "a major", not "the major", but I thought ALT1 is better. The fact is in the body, its copy in the lead is uncited per MOS. Materialscientist (talk) 00:05, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Verified ALT. When it is just 2%, saying it is a "a principal constituent"/"a major" may be an overstatement and needs an explicit reference. The image got a reference. But which page no gives explicitly the structure? Where are the C's, the H's and O's in the structure? --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:48, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References were always there. (i) 2% refers to a single specimen (from questionable US location - most other sources study Central American plants), most other sources (including 2 other measurements from the same source) give about 10x higher value. It is fine with me to drop the main hook if there is no belief in the explanation. (ii) Skeletal formulas do not to mark carbon and hydrogen atoms. There are simple rules to figure that out, which I would be glad to explain.

Added specific page number to the figure file, explanation why the ascaridole content varies in the plant, and extra refs that it is a major component. Materialscientist (talk) 23:00, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Admit it, you just picked this compound because it looked like a face. O_O shoy (reactions) 20:27, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Off course. I was expanding peroxide, stumbled upon it, rotated the image 90°, and expanded ascaridole :-). Materialscientist (talk) 00:35, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

... that ascaridole () is an explosive and a major constituent of the oil of Mexican Tea?

... that ascaridole () is an explosive chemical?

John Rice Irwin

... that John Rice Irwin founded the ~~infamous~~ Museum of Appalachia?

5x expanded by CrowzRSA (talk). Self nom at 17:48, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infamous? Such a pronouncement is rather POV, and anyway I don't see anything (whether in the Irwin article or in the museum article) that anyone would see as a justifiable reason to call the museum "infamous". Nyttend (talk) 22:05, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the infamous part. CrowzRSA 22:26, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:

... that John Rice Irwin, founder of the Museum of Appalachia, recently turned 80 years old?

Online sources are good, but the large majority of the article is dependent on a print source; AGF on that, since it appears to be a reliable newspaper article. No problems with date or length or either hook. I'd advise that we go with the original-minus-infamous hook, since it's much more interesting than the alternate. Nyttend (talk) 03:55, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I pulled this out of the queue and brought it back here. Having met this man on several occasions, been to his museum, and read a lot of print material about him, I KNOW we can come up with a more interesting hook than the date of the founding of the museum. (I also restored the "infamous" with a strikeout, so that the issues with the original hook would be apparent.) --Orlady (talk) 20:48, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's one possibility for an alt hook:

ALT2... that an experience at an auction in the early 1960s led John Rice Irwin to start the Museum of Appalachia? --Orlady (talk) 22:54, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 24

Batavia Club

... that the Batavia Club building (pictured) in Batavia, New York, is one of only two extant works in the state by Hezekiah Eldredge?

ALT1:that the Batavia Club building (pictured) in Batavia, New York, was originally a bank and is now an arts center?
ALT2:that during recent renovations to the former Batavia Club building (pictured) in Batavia, New York, an old safe was found that so far no one has been able to open?

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 17:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Baldino, Jr.

... that founder and CEO Frank Baldino, Jr. led Cephalon to $2.2 billion in annual sales, its best-known product being Provigil, a narcolepsy medication that the company wants to market to treat jet lag?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:57, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Henry S. Baird

... that Henry S. Baird, the first lawyer in territorial Wisconsin, bought a small Greek Revival former land office building to serve as his law office (pictured) as he felt its style befit his position?

Above, double DYK with Baird Law Office, with nice pic by Royalbroil, is maybe better than alt:

... that Henry S. Baird, the first lawyer in Wisconsin and later its first attorney general brought his 14 year old bride to the Wisconsin territory by ship?

Created by Doncram and RFD. --(talk). Self nom at 17:26, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I did a review on the article on Charles Edward Jenkins III; I hope I am doing this right-Thank you-RFD (talk) 22:51, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I added a sentence with citation about Henry Baird taking his wife to Wisconsin Territory by ship.This will take care of the hook-Thank you-RFD (talk) 20:59, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neither article qualifies on length -- both are below 1500 characters of prose, according to DYKcheck. Can you expand them? --Orlady (talk) 22:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RFD expanded Henry S. Baird and i just expanded Baird Law Office. Sorry i did not check length properly before submitting; i was just guessing about length. Now i have DYKcheck working and it shouldn't happen again. Thanks! --Doncram (talk) 18:47, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

LaVerne Butler

... that the Kentuckian LaVerne Butler was a leader in the "Conservative Resurgence" within the Southern Baptist denomination in the 1970s and 1980s?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Waveney class lifeboat

... that the Waveney was the first class of lifeboats built for the Royal National Lifeboat Institution capable of speeds in excess of 10 knots (19 km/h)?

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Nominated by Geof Sheppard (talk) at 08:46, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William V. McBride

... that William V. McBride was the military assistant of Secretary of the Air Force Eugene M. Zuckert and Harold Brown?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 07:41, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Entire article is uncited. 97198 (talk) 07:25, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:Did you know#Selection criteria, "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". Article is a very close paraphrase of http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=6340. - Dravecky (talk) 23:15, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cited. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's "cited" almost entirely (14 of 15 cites) to the article of which it is a close paraphrase. The only other source is verification of a single date. - Dravecky (talk) 06:09, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Louis T. Seith

... that Louis T. Seith flew fifty two combat missions during World War II?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 04:50, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Entire article is uncited. 97198 (talk) 11:12, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:Did you know#Selection criteria, "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". Article is a very close paraphrase of http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=7105 - Dravecky (talk) 23:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cited. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's "cited" almost entirely (12 of 13 cites) to the article of which it is a close paraphrase. The only other source is used to "verify" this sentence: "At some point, the Air Force Aid Society named an award after him." - Dravecky (talk) 06:11, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Louis L. Wilson Jr.

... that Louis L. Wilson Jr. commanded Operation Babylift, the airlift evacuation of orphaned children, at the end of the Vietnam War?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 03:00, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is almost entirely uncited. 97198 (talk) 07:10, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:Did you know#Selection criteria, "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". Article is a very close paraphrase of http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=7618 - Dravecky (talk) 23:19, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cited. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's "cited" almost entirely (12 of 14 cites) to the article of which it is a close paraphrase. The only other source is a paid death notice, not generally acceptable as a reliable source. - Dravecky (talk) 06:14, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adrienne L. Kaeppler

... that Dr. Adrienne L. Kaeppler, curator of Oceanic Ethnology at the Smithsonian Institution, created a special exhibition at the Tongan National Museum, for the 80th birthday of King Taufa'ahau Tupou IV?

Created by Elonka (talk). Self nom at 15:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1:

... that Adrienne L. Kaeppler is curator of Oceanic Ethnology at the Smithsonian Institution, and is an expert on the voyages of the 18th century explorer James Cook?

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on December 25

Quetzaltenango Department

... that territory now included in the Quetzaltenango Department of Guatemala was the scene of a decisive battle between Spanish conquistadors and the army of the K'iche' Kingdom of Q'umarkaj?

5x expanded by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 21:48, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook is in the Early history section. Simon Burchell (talk) 21:48, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tsa Yig

... that Tsa Yig refers to the legal code enacted by the founder of Bhutan, Shabdrung Ngawang Namgyal, around 1629?

Created by JFHJr (talk). Nominated by Spongie555 (talk) at 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Perry Mason syndrome

... that some defendants chose to appear pro se because of the Perry Mason syndrome?

Created by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 04:40, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

May not be the most exciting hook in the world, so feel free to tweak it or suggest new ones as you see fit. I reviewed the Thomas Spreiter / Inkamana Abbey nomination. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 22:58, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not long enough yet. Daniel Case (talk) 06:18, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is currently 1654 characters of readable prose. - Dravecky (talk) 07:30, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Vale of Avoca

... that The Vale of Avoca bridge was opened in 1924, replacing an iron bridge built in 1888 (both pictured)?

Created by Floydian (talk). Self nom at 02:54, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is long enough and expanded enough, but the hook is not cited, except by a footnote which asserts only part of the hook, and there are no actual citations in the article at all. For DYK it needs to be fully cited – viz., at least one citation per paragraph. Moonraker2 (talk) 03:05, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This would mean using the same reference for each paragraph, which is the reference at the bottom, in the bibliography section. This article is fully cited to a reliable secondary source published by the Deer Park Library; it just lacks inline citations. If I were to use them, it would be the same ref three times. I was instead waiting until I retreived more reliable sources since there is only clutter to be gained when using a single source. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 03:19, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, what is given there is single title, without other information, such as the name of the author, date of publication, or page number. That isn't a citation, it's a title, and hooks need to be verifiable. Please see Wikipedia:Did you know. Moonraker2 (talk) 03:44, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The information given is all that is necessary. There is no given author or publisher, so the Library defaults as the publisher of that information (it is given). The location of the item is given (local history reference), and the fonds in which it is contained (bridges). It is a single sheet, printed front and back; there are no page numbers, no author, no date, and nothing else besides a title and two pages of text. I'd be happy to scan the item in full and publish that in my own webspace. As it is, however, this is referenced to a secondary source created by a government archive. We do not have a citation template to appropriately display such a reference to the best of my knowledge. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 04:15, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I also noted your edit summary "Unfortunately the paper lacks a proper publisher; most likely a Deer Park Historical Society, if it exists". See Secondary source. Moonraker2 (talk) 04:33, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I also notice you continue to ignore everything I am writing and drawing your own baseless conclusions. This is a paper made available in the local history archives of a very well-established and reputable public library system. I am well aware of wikipedia policies on verifiability and reliable sourcing to secondary sources. The point is, what should I do about a situation which A) does not warrant using an inline citation, as the whole article is sourced to one place, and B) is provided by a type of source that has generally been overlooked on wikipedia (secondary sources created by archivists and historians that are stored in a government archives or library reference section), and thus is difficult to present using our citation templates? - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 05:06, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't shoot the messenger. A single sheet of paper which lacks author, date, publisher, and any sign of having been peer reviewed, won't stand up as the only source for a new article offered to DYK for the Main Page. I think it would be better for others to carry on this discussion. Moonraker2 (talk) 03:21, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, being in the local archives = Peer reviewed and verified as fact. This is far more reliable than a published book where the publisher and editor have no way of verifying the historical accuracy of the authors text. This a government run insistution. I will try to uncover at least one author and perhaps a second secondary source, but the publisher is the public library branch. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 18:46, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Having placed materials into local archives, I can assure you that it can not be considered peer reviewed or verified. It's certainly possible that was done in this case, but I would definitely not make such an assumption without some information from and about the library in question. cmadler (talk) 20:56, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added a few new sources, including one from Lost Rivers Toronto (a website of the Toronto Field Naturalists) and from an article out of the Deer Park Newsletter. These two sources back up all of the facts in the hook. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 19:45, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Moses Bloom

... that Moses Bloom, mayor of Iowa City, Iowa from 1873 to 1875, was the first Jewish mayor of a major American city?

Created by Mhym (talk). Self nom at 02:34, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is well written and researched. I added some citations from the Iowa General Assembly website of a database of members of the Iowa General Assembly to the article about Moses Bloom's legislative involvement. Thank you-RFD (talk) 18:13, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good article. Regarding the hook, I could not find "major" in the citation provided in the article. Does this mean he was the first Jewish mayor? Location (talk) 07:12, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Several references mention "First Jewish mayor of an American city" (see e.g. ref in the article or [2] mentioned in the article), while Bailey Gatzert mention "major". I find the latter more conservative and is probably more prudent, as it is impossible to list all (possibly, very tiny) American towns and find if they had Jewish mayors. Feel free to edit the hook and/or the article to phrase it better. I am not really sure how to do that. Mhym (talk) 08:23, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The weight of the claim is substantial, so I can understand being conservative with it. The assertion in Bailey Gatzert is also not sourced, so I would disregard it. If we have reliable sources that state Bloom was the first Jewish mayor of any American city and none that state someone else was, I think it would be OK to drop "major" in this case. Location (talk) 19:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I just found a reference referring to the first Jewish mayor in Georgetown, South Carolina (1818), so that contradicts the claim to Bloom being the first Jewish mayor of any American city. Iowa City is certainly now larger than Georgetown, SC (not sure about 1818 or 1873), but "major" is still open to interpretation in the absence of a reliable source. Location (talk) 19:46, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I just found another reference referring to the first Jewish mayor of Shreveport, Louisiana (also 1873). Shreveport may have likely been larger than Iowa City in 1873, but now this is getting into the territory of WP:OR. Also found that David Naar of Elizabeth, New Jersey was the first Jewish major in the United States. Location (talk) 19:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I just found this reference referring to Adolph Sutro of San Francisco as the "first Jewish mayor of any major U.S. city"; his Wikipedia article states that he was the second Jewish mayor of SF. Without a specific, credible reference stating that Bloom was the first Jewish mayor of a major American city, I think there is enough to suggest that the hook be changed. Sorry. Location (talk) 20:15, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Right. Adolph Sutro was the second Jewish mayor of SF mayor (1894-1896), while Washington Bartlett was the first SF mayor (1883–1887), i.e. both were *after* Bloom, so this is not an issue. However, Cohen from S.C. was much earlier (the ref gives 1818), and I don't know the definition of a "major city", but given that Iowa City was established by a decree, it probably was not all that large in 1873. I say this is too close to WP:OR so I will refrain from further pushing this issue. The DYK nomination should be withdrawn. Mhym (talk) 22:52, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need to withdraw the DYK. He was the first Jewish settler in Iowa City and the first Jewish member of the Iowa Senate. One of those might be less contentious. Location (talk) 22:57, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William G. Moore Jr.

... that William G. Moore Jr. flew 240 combat missions during World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 23:54, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Entire article is uncited. 97198 (talk) 11:15, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:Did you know#Selection criteria, "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". Article is a very close paraphrase of http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=6526 - Dravecky (talk) 23:22, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cited. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's "cited" almost entirely (15 of 16 cites) to the article of which it is a close paraphrase. The only other source cites this sentence: "Him and his wife also lived in Franklin, Tennessee." - Dravecky (talk) 06:22, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John W. Roberts

... that John W. Roberts was a recipient of the United States Air Force's Order of the Sword?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 22:21, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Entire article is uncited. 97198 (talk) 11:16, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:Did you know#Selection criteria, "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". Article is a very close paraphrase of http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=6931 - Dravecky (talk) 23:25, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cited. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's "cited" almost entirely (10 of 12 cites) to the article of which it is a close paraphrase. One reference has been inserted in such a way that the surrounding sentence fragments are not comprehensible. - Dravecky (talk) 06:29, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cliff Ammons

... that the freshman Louisiana State Rep. Cliff Ammons in the early 1960s pushed to fruition legislation to create Toledo Bend Reservoir?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:35, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The primary source for this article is findagrave.com, which is not a very reliable source. - PM800 (talk) 02:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The primary source is "Ammons, Cliff". Louisiana Historical Association, A Dictionary of Louisiana Biography (lahistory.org). Retrieved December 24, 2010. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help); Source 7 refers to the building of Toledo Bend; Find-a-grave was used for three family obits to get the names of the relatives straight. Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:50, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eissee

... that the Lower Eissee, a lake which lies in a shallow cirque in the Dachstein Mountains, was left behind when the Hallstätter Glacier retreated?

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Seems good to me. The image in the article could be added to the DYK. --Crusio (talk) 20:59, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I linked cirque in the hook. Moonraker2 (talk) 03:29, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fadjar Harapan

... that the Indonesian pioneer movement Fadjar Harapan was subjected to an enforced merger with Sukarno's Scouting Association in 1961?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 19:23, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

F. Michael Rogers

... that F. Michael Rogers was the commandant of the United States Air Force's Air University?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 07:31, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Entire article is uncited. 97198 (talk) 11:17, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:Did you know#Selection criteria, "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". Article is a very close paraphrase of http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=6955 - Dravecky (talk) 23:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cited. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's "cited" almost entirely (12 of 13 cites) to the article of which it is a close paraphrase. Remaining reference cites a single sentence about his career after retiring from the military. - Dravecky (talk) 06:35, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

William J. Evans

... that William J. Evans has flown planes ranging from the P-51 Mustang to the B-1A Lancer?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 01:54, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Entire article is uncited. 97198 (talk) 11:17, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:Did you know#Selection criteria, "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". Article is a very close paraphrase of http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=5376 - Dravecky (talk) 23:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cited. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's "cited" entirely (15 of 15 cites) to the article of which it is a close paraphrase. - Dravecky (talk) 06:40, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 26

James E. Dalton

... that James E. Dalton was a director of the Air Reserve Personnel Center?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 00:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is copied from http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=5150. This issue is currently being discussed here. - PM800 (talk) 00:54, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is "cited" almost entirely (11 of 12 cites) to the article of which it is a close paraphrase. - Dravecky (talk) 06:46, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Albert Estopinal

... that Kenilworth, the sugar plantation of U.S. Rep. Albert Estopinal in St. Bernard Parish, Louisiana, was originally a Spanish fort?

5x expanded by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 05:25, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article currently at 6065 characters prose; however, before expansion, the article had 1318 characters (requiring a minimum of 6590 for 5x). Some additional expansion needed. Calmer Waters 21:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I expanded from 3,157 bytes to more than 16,000 bytes. I don't know how to measure "characters." This is 5+ expansion. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:55, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hannibal (swan)

... that Hannibal killed 15 swans?

Created by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps this should be saved for April Fool's Day? I don't mind either way. I reviewed the nomination for Hushang Ansary. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 03:52, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All good. -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 22:45, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I say hold this one for April Fool's Day. cmadler (talk) 21:00, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Billy M. Minter

... that Billy M. Minter commanded the 354th Tactical Fighter Squadron?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 03:08, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Only final paragraph is cited. Moonraker2 (talk) 03:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:Did you know#Selection criteria, "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". Article is a very close paraphrase of http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio_print.asp?bioID=6486 - Dravecky (talk) 23:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cited. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is "cited" almost entirely (13 of 14 cites) to the article of which it is a close paraphrase. Remaining citation is to an unofficial Arlington National Cemetery tribute site. - Dravecky (talk) 06:52, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ural pictograms

... that according to Russian researcher Vladimir Avinsky, some of the Ural pictograms may represent the structural formulas (pictured)?

5x expanded by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 00:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article has not been expanded 5 times in the last 5 days and it needs some c/e. Apart from that, I doubt whether the image is actually in the free domain as it is apparently copied/based on some other image that is probably not free, maybe someone else could check that? And I think that the hook should change; this is obviously a fringe theory (WP:FRNG). -- Zoeperkoe (talk) 18:11, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The original image is free because it represents 2-dimensional art, whose artists deceased long ago, and common non-copyrightable structural formulas. Twilightchill t 18:36, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Richard L. Lawson

... that Richard L. Lawson entered the military with the Iowa Army National Guard but ended up becomming a four star General in the United States Air Force?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Entire article is uncited. 97198 (talk) 07:11, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:Did you know#Selection criteria, "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". Article is a very close paraphrase of http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=6160 - Dravecky (talk) 23:41, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cited. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is "cited" almost entirely (10 of 11 cites) to the article of which it is a close paraphrase. - Dravecky (talk) 06:54, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cedar Creek, Utah

... that farmers in Cedar Creek, Utah often went to the schoolmarm for farming advice?

Created by The Utahraptor (talk). Self nom at 19:57, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article gets to 1500 characters only because it repeats everything in the relatively long introduction. The hook is not cited, and anyways it is very subjective. - PM800 (talk) 18:39, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the lead supposed to introduce the article? The Utahraptor ^Talk/_Contribs 18:49, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will work on expanding and copy editing this article later today. The Utahraptor ^Talk/_Contribs 18:53, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The lead is indeed supposed to introduce the article, but in this case it was nearly one-third of the whole thing, which is a little much. - PM800 (talk) 19:04, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've trimmed the lead a bit. Let me know if anything else should be done to the lead. I'll work on expanding the article once I make a trip to the library. The Utahraptor ^Talk/_Contribs 19:10, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

E. W. Gravolet

... that in the late 1950s and 1960s, E. W. Gravolet, a member of both houses of the Louisiana State Legislature, joined his political ally Leander Perez in a vain attempt to thwart school desegregation?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:43, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anubias afzelii

... that Anubias afzelii, described in 1857, was the first species of the genus of popular aquarium plants, Anubias, known to science?

Created by Crusio (talk). Self nom at 17:01, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article doesn't explicitly say this. It does say the species was described simultaneously with the genus Anubias, but it is possible that other species now placed in Anubias were described in other genera before. Ucucha 13:05, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're absolutely right, sometimes when you're close to a subject you don't see these things :-) However, A. afzelii was the first species described, none of the Anubias species were first described in another genus. I'll add that to the article. --Crusio (talk) 13:26, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Ucucha 13:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I reviewed "Playboy (lifestyle)" (and a few others). --Crusio (talk) 12:21, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "Cultivation" section is currently unsourced. - PM800 (talk) 02:07, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lapiang Malaya

... that the around 400 members of the Philippine political party Lapiang Malaya, armed with amulets and bolo knives, plotted to overthrow President Ferdinand Marcos (pictured) in 1968 but were killed by the M-16 wielding police?

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 16:12, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Neft Daşları

... that one of the scenes in the James Bond film The World Is Not Enough was filmed in settlement of the Oil Rocks (pictured) in Azerbaijan?

5x expanded by NovaSkola (talk). Self nom at 11:55, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This page has been moved from Oil Rocks to Neft Daşları. —Bruce1ee^talk 08:55, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The prose has only been expanded 2.3x in the last 5 days (3327/1424). —Bruce1ee^talk 08:58, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No. 201 Flight RAAF

... that No. 201 Flight's role was considered so secret by the Royal Australian Air Force that few people outside the unit knew that it even existed?

5x expanded by Nick-D (talk). Self nom at 05:55, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article length and age check out, as do hook length and offline ref -- well done. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:25, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Ian Nick-D (talk) 08:10, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Allen C. Gremillion

... that the Louisiana State Rep. Allen C. Gremillion pushed for passage of a bill creating the community college known as Louisiana State University at Eunice?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 05:33, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John W. Pauly

... that former General John W. Pauly was once an assistant executive officer to General Curtis E. LeMay, then the Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 05:06, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Entire article is uncited. 97198 (talk) 07:13, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to WP:Did you know#Selection criteria, "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". Article is a very close paraphrase of http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=6708 - Dravecky (talk) 23:43, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cited. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:51, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is "cited" almost entirely (14 of 15 cites) to the article of which it is a close paraphrase. - Dravecky (talk) 06:58, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mezcala Bridge

... that the Mezcala Bridge (pictured) in Mexico suffered a fire in one of its cable systems in March 2007 due to an accident on the main deck caused by a coconut-carrying truck colliding with two school buses?

5x expanded by Jujutacular (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 02:31, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Morris L. Cohen

... that Morris L. Cohen, described by The New York Times as "one of the nation's most influential legal librarians", wrote a six-volume summary of all law sources published in the U.S. before 1860?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 27

Sunstone (medieval)

... that vikings may have navigated using a polarizing mineral they called a sunstone to determine the position of the sun on totally overcast days?

Created by ArniEin (talk). Nominated by Yngvadottir (talk) at 22:06, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Currently at AfD, I am of course assuming it will be kept, but nomination may need to be put on hold while the discussion runs its course. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:08, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is good-to-go, as soon as the AfD closes (which every indication is it will close with a keep). - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:21, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Balsam

... that Daniel Balsam became enraged after he received unsolicited e-mails offering him breast enlargement products?

Created by Qrsdogg (talk). Self nom at 01:15, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the purpose of the hook is to draw the reader into the article, however, I think it should be altered to offer a little bit more information on what he decided to do after receiving spam. Location (talk) 07:23, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

General Dynamics F-111C

... that a General Dynamics F-111C (RF-111C pictured) of the Royal Australian Air Force sank the North Korean ship Pong Su in 2006?

Comment: Article moved to mainspace on this date.

Created by BilCat (talk), Nick-D (talk), Fnlayson (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 00:22, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Astronauts (band)

... that although American surf music group The Astronauts only spent one week on the Billboard Hot 100 in their entire career, they outsold The Beach Boys in Japan in the early 1960s?

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 10:28, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and online hook refs verified, offline refs accepted in good faith. I added "American" to the hook for context. —Bruce1ee^talk 09:17, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Online ref for hook point now added. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:39, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, all hook refs verified. —Bruce1ee^talk 09:49, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Limnio

... that the Lemnia wine described by Aristotle (pictured) was likely made from the Greek wine grape Limnio which is still being grown today?

Comment: Several sources for the Aristotle "Lemnia-Limnio" connection provided, both published books and online.

5x expanded by Agne27 (talk). Self nom at 22:43, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

J.E. Keeny

... that the Louisiana educator J.E. Keeny was a consistent promoter of the New York-based Chatauqua movement?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:52, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT... that in 1904 the Louisiana educator J.E. Keeny was named to a state office to promote improved teacher qualifications through in-service training?

Meinhard Moser

... that the noted Austrian mycologist Meinhard Moser interrupted his degree after only three terms of study, resuming it several years later upon his release from a prisoner-of-war camp?

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 21:28, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

France–Monaco relations

... that a Frenchman is chosen to oversee certain state affairs of Monaco?

Created by Lihaas (talk). Self nom at 21:00, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agragami Adivasi Samiti

... that Indian Maoist guerrillas killed seven prominent local members of Agragami Adivasi Samiti in Purulia District in December 2010?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 20:24, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, 2 bengal articles on the same day ;)

Anyhoo, think the article needs an expansion for it to be DYK eligible. im rather new here, but someone told me over 1000 words.(Lihaas (talk) 20:54, 27 December 2010 (UTC)).[reply]

The DYK rules (WP:DYK) says "Articles must have a minimum of 1,500 characters of prose". --Soman (talk) 08:03, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, okay, confused characters for words. Now, my nom should be good too;)Lihaas (talk) 20:54, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John S. Kyser

... that the Louisiana educator John S. Kyser was instrumental in the development of closed-circuit television instruction?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The hook doesn't really say much, to be honest, and I couldn't find anything else online that specifies exactly what Kyser did with closed-circuit television in Louisiana. - PM800 (talk) 02:02, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT: ... that John S. Kyser pioneered the first graduate programs at a state college in Louisiana, beyond those already available at LSU?

Stripsenjochhaus

... that the Stripsenjochhaus (pictured) is an Alpine club hut in the Northern Alps that, for decades, has been a base for some of the most famous rock climbing mountains in the Alps?

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 19:42, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date verified. Hook's foreign language ref accepted AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 08:32, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

West Bengal legislative assembly election, 2011

... that the West Bengal election follows violent agitation in Nandigram and Singur?

Created by Lihaas (talk). Self nom at 18:12, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Obiviously not ready yet, will be after the election in a few months, so can we move it to the alternative later date? It will also then go for a further expansion over time.Lihaas (talk).18:12, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Kingman

... that Harry Kingman was the first Major League Baseball player to be born in China?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 17:22, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, sourcing and history for article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 00:26, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly recommend against the piping "[[People's Republic of China|China]]" in the hook because [1] we have quite a few entries in Category:Major League Baseball players from Taiwan, and the definition of "China" is a sensitive political issue we should avoid, and [2] Kingman was born in 1892, more than half a century before the People's Republic of China was established. "Mainland China" is not that appropriate, as the term does not apply during Kingman's time. (See Mainlander (China).) Please rephrase. Instead of "only", please consider "the first MLBer to be born in China" (no piping)? --PFHLai (talk) 03:35, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done. - PM800 (talk) 03:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Meykhana

... that Meykhana music genre, which was banned during USSR period, laid the foundation of the modern Azerbaijani hip hop?

Created by --NovaSkola (talk) 14:18, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not a new creation or a 5 times expansion...♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:56, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Allen

... that baseball manager Roarin' Nick Allen (pictured) "baited" and argued with umpires on the field because he wanted to increase attendence?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 11:05, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No complaints; hook and all other information in article are verified, and date and length are good. Nyttend (talk) 15:26, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clutts House

... that the Clutts House in Wellston, Ohio, was the home of a man who owned at least four different blast furnaces in the area?

Comment: I counted 2,187 characters. Source for hook is the second paragraph: citation 2 says that he bought two furnaces, and citation 3 says that he bought two more.
Comment: I would welcome a more interesting hook. Nyttend (talk) 05:26, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 05:25, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

George Huscher

Did you know that on this date in 1912, that Utah swore into office, its first and to date only Socialist, George Huscher, mayor of Murray, Utah?

5x expanded by Stundra (talk), Ser Amantio di Nicolao (talk). Self nom at 02:42, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article length is only ~1,100 characters. I also assume "this date" refers to January 1, but that date isn't even in the main text of the article and is still missing a citation in the infobox. 97198 (talk) 07:18, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unless otherwise specified, most mayors in the United States take the oath of office on January 1, the date intended for publication. However, citation can be found in one of the references. User:Stundra (talk) 10:20, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sulphurdale, Utah

... that in the mining town of Sulphurdale, only the highest quality sulfur ore was freighted to the Union Pacific loading docks at Black Rock?

Created by The Utahraptor (talk). Self nom at 00:23, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Only the high grade ore was considered useful; the rest of the ore went unused." is seemingly unsourced. SmartSE (talk) 21:46, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added a source. The Utahraptor ^Talk/_Contribs 21:49, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've just done a bit of searching and found that there is now a geothermal powerplant nearby the ghost town today. Is there any chance of adding this to the article (there is more info in google scholar and google books too) and then producing a hook along the lines of:

ALT1 ... that although Sulphurdale was established due to nearby sulphur deposits, it was abandoned and the area is now exploited for its geothermal power?

I personally think this is more interesting than the current hook, which has an air of "so what?" to it. SmartSE (talk) 21:10, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RAAF Command

... that a divided wartime control system forced the leader of RAAF Command, Air Vice Marshal Bill Bostock, to serve two masters, one for operational tasking and another for supplies and equipment?

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 06:21, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hook length is 131 words; date created is fine; article length is fine; hook is cited (AGF for offline ref). AustralianRupert (talk) 23:39, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lefty Herring

... that baseball pitcher Lefty Herring later became a position player and made it back to the major leagues five years after his first game?

Created by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 14:19, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, sourcing and history for article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 00:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What Do You Want

... that Terry Bradshaw's daughter, Rachel, co-wrote Jerrod Niemann's "What Do You Want" and appeared in the song's music video?

Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Self nom at 20:36, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, and hook verified. - PM800 (talk) 21:11, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 28

Georg Carl Amdrup

... that during one of Georg Carl Amdrup's Greenland expeditions, he and his men were accused of killing 38 Eskimo, but it was later ascertained that they had died of starvation?

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 23:22, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Kiranmoy Nanda. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:33, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Byzantine silk

... that Byzantine silk designs include the tree of life, winged horses, and imaginary beasts, along with fashionable images of hunting and quadrigas (pictured)?

Comment: article moved to mainspace on Dec 27

Created by PKM (talk), Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 03:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length and date are fine (it was actually the 28th, WikiTime), and AGF on the offline source. One very minor point: ref #8, unrelated to the hook, is incomplete, missing a page number. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:20, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mein liebster Jesus ist verloren, BWV 154

... that Bach's cantata Mein liebster Jesus ist verloren, BWV 154, first performed on 9 January 1724, "contains a graphic evocation of ear drumming", according to Gardiner?

Comment: for 9 January 2011, First Sunday after Epiphany - I reviewed Gottlob Espenlaub, knowing that "the thing" is not yet on, but practising.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 17:43, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ron Berry

... that Welsh novelist Ron Berry also wrote a book about his observations of Peregrine Falcons?

Created by FruitMonkey (talk). Self nom at 11:49, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Missing inline citation. Which ref verifies the hook? --Rosiestep (talk) 23:25, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, refs added. FruitMonkey (talk) 01:13, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Tabarlet

... that Joseph Tabarlet, later a mayor of Jonesboro, Louisiana, was stationed with the Marines at Guantanamo Bay during World War I?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 05:34, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT:that World War I veteran Joseph Tabarlet, subsequently the mayor of Jonesboro, Louisiana, was active with the Red Cross during World War II?

Steven W. Fisher

... that Steven W. Fisher became the last judge in New York to impose the death penalty, after John B. Taylor was convicted in 2003 for the murder of five people in the Wendy's massacre?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 04:12, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Empathic Civilization

... that in The Empathic Civilization author Jeremy Rifkin argues that extending empathy to subsequently larger groups is paid for with increasing entropy in terms of environmental problems?

Comment: hook cited from review by John N. Gray review+quotes in intro's 3rd paragraph.

Created by Maclean25 (talk). Self nom at 01:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Carrier Strike Group Nine

... that Carrier Strike Group Nine is the first U.S. Navy carrier strike group to deploy with an entire LAMPS anti-submarine/multi-mission helicopter squadron embarked and fully supported by its flagship aircraft carrier (pictured)?

Comment: This article was originally named Abraham Lincoln Battle Group.Marcd30319 (talk) 23:45, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Marcd30319 (talk). Self nom at 23:45, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Neal Baum

... that Harry Neal Baum (pictured as a four month old) ghostwrote the 1917 novel Mary Louise Solves a Mystery when his ailing father, L. Frank Baum, could not fulfill his obligations to his publishers?

Created by Cunard (talk). Self nom at 23:40, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed Bold Orion. Cunard (talk) 23:40, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Length, date, hook, and reference verified. maclean (talk) 01:18, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bold Orion

... that the Bold Orion air-launched ballistic missile (pictured) was the first missile ever to intercept an artificial satellite?

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, and reference verified. The sentence, "In addition, the Bold Orion missile was used in first interception of a satellite by a weapons system", needs to be clarified and the article will be ready. Cunard (talk) 23:40, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks! (also, reviewed SMS König Albert) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:20, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of managers of defunct Major League Baseball teams

... that Frank Bancroft managed his now-defunct Major League Baseball team, the Providence Grays, to the 1884 World Series championship?

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 21:30, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reference, hook, and length verified. Prose expanded over fivefold recently. maclean (talk) 01:29, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Snake Wiltse

... that Lewis "Snake" Wiltse once pitched a shutout and collected four extra base hits in the same Major League Baseball game?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 20:48, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and hook all check. Rlendog (talk) 01:53, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Teresa de Francisci

... that Teresa de Francisci, who was the model for the depiction of Liberty on the Peace dollar (obverse pictured), was born in a town south of Naples, Italy?

Created by RHM22 (talk). Self nom at 20:17, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date, hook, reference, and length verified. maclean (talk) 02:58, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Philippine presidential election and referendum, 1981

... that a candidate in the 1981 Philippine presidential election that advocated the country to become United States' 51st state got 4% of the vote?

alt1: ... that Benigno Aquino, Jr. was barred from running in the 1981 Philippine presidential election since he was six years younger than the prescribed age?
alt2: ... that Francisco Tatad, Alejo Santos' campaign manager in the 1981 Philippine presidential election, was a former information minister of Santos' opponent Ferdinand Marcos?

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 19:34, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cape Capricorn Light

... that construction plans of the first Cape Capricorn Light (plans pictured), a lighthouse on Curtis Island, Queensland, failed to include a lantern room, so one had to be urgently constructed?

Comment: I'm not sure "pictured" is the right word for architectural plans, so if this image is used please correct this.

Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 18:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eugene Goldwasser

... that erythropoietin became a billion dollar business for Amgen, though its discoverer Eugene Goldwasser at the University of Chicago never profited from its development?

ALT1:... that Eugene Goldwasser expected EPO would help cure patients with anemia, though Floyd Landis was stripped of his title as winner of the 2006 Tour de France after using EPO as a performance enhancer?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:26, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gymnopilus maritimus

... that the mushroom Gymnopilus maritimus is known only from collections in a very localised area of Sardinia, Italy?

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1... that although the mushroom Gymnopilus maritimus is particularly similar to two mushrooms in its genus, convergent evolution is indicated? Rcej (Robert) - talk 06:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2, a rephrase of ALT1... that although the mushroom Gymnopilus maritimus is similar to two other mushrooms in its genus, it is not closely related, suggesting convergent evolution? J Milburn (talk) 13:45, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

R.B. Walden

... that in 1964, R.B. Walden, director of the Louisiana Department of Hospitals, directed the desegregation of his state's charity hospitals?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 16:38, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kiranmoy Nanda

... that socialist politician Kiranmoy Nanda has been the Fisheries Minister of the Indian state of West Bengal since 1982?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 16:13, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:32, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

St Martin's Church, Colchester

... that the tower of St Martin's Church, Colchester, Essex, (pictured) was damaged in 1648 during the Civil War, and has never been repaired?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:03, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SMS König Albert

... that the German dreadnought battleship SMS König Albert was the only German dreadnought active at the time to miss the Battle of Jutland, due to engine problems?

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 15:59, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tweaked the hook to clairfy "active". Looks good to go. AGF on offline sources. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:27, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking, Bushranger. There's a PD photo of the ship, though it's not the highest quality. Just thought I'd point it out in case it's needed. Parsecboy (talk) 14:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Double Sunrise

... that The Double Sunrise was a non-stop 30 hour flight of over 3500 nautical miles acorss the Indian Ocean during WWII

5x expanded by Gnangarra (talk). Self nom at 15:33, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aleksandra Samusenko

... that Soviet tank commander Aleksandra Samusenko was buried near the monument to German Emperor William I in Łobez?

Created by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 14:03, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article is under 1500 characters if the "Rumors" section blockquote is not counted. The quote shouldn't even be included, in my opinion. - PM800 (talk) 02:42, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The rumors section reads like a commentary, with unclear notability and unclear point targeted (that she fought? or that she concealed? or that Zhukov said so? Who is Zhukov? Who is Garin, except for a war veteran?). Materialscientist (talk) 02:51, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SITRANDE

... that the power plant workers union SITRANDE was the first public sector trade union founded in Paraguay after the fall of Stroessner?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 12:37, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hydroxide

... that the hydroxide ion is a natural constituent of water?

5x expanded by Petergans (talk). Self nom at 10:14, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For such a densely written article, at least one citation per paragraph is necessary, and probably rather more. For example, the subsection "Transition and post-transition metals" has no citations at all. Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 18:24, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The contents of the section mentioned are common knowledge and, being known for more than 100 years, can be found in many school and undergraduate text-books. Details not cited in the text are covered by the books listed in the bibliography. I appreciate that it is difficult for non-scientists to know what is or is not common knowledge. Nevertheless, "trivial" facts do not always need individual citations. Petergans (talk)

Well, every paragraph still needs a citation. This is a DYK requirement, so you'd best fix that if you want this hook to be approved. - PM800 (talk) 21:06, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Twice I have added comments and both times they have disappeared. Petergans (talk) 16:41, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm inclined to dispute that, for example, Zinc hydroxide, Zn(OH)2, is amphoteric is a "trivial fact" or "common knowledge". In any case, if these facts are so well-known, it won't be hard to supply citations, as required. Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 17:47, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I was taught that nearly 50 years ago when I did qualitative analysis as a 1st year undergraduate. I have added two more general references to the bibliography. Citation is needed for verification; the bibliography provides ample verification for the common knowledge facts. Petergans (talk) 20:54, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mario Domm

... that after an unsuccessful debut album, Mexican singer-songwriter Mario Domm formed the band Camila?

Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 09:25, 28 December 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 09:24, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Slights

... that Kaaron Warren (pictured) won two national awards for her debut novel, Slights, a horror story about near death experiences?

ALT1:... ~~that one reviewer of Slights, a horror novel by Kaaron Warren (pictured), said that it is "a punch in the face, a kick in the testicles" and will remain with you for a "long, long time"?~~

Created by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 08:56, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. I much prefer the initial hook; Alt1 seems too close to advertising, particularly given that this is going to appear on Wikipedia's front page. Nick-D (talk) 10:47, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken, I've struck out ALT1. Thanks for the review. —Bruce1ee^talk 11:03, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Platinum coin

... that the first Russian platinum coin (pictured) was sent to the German scientist Alexander von Humboldt and then redeemed by the Russian emperor Alexander II?

Comment: Support comes from this, which might look like a blog, but the author is academician, i.e. member of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Materialscientist (talk) 07:13, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 07:13, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. Date and length are good. The reference is in Russian, so I attempted to translate it using an online translator. As usual, the online translator is very sloppy, but it seemed to agree with what was written in the article.-RHM22 (talk) 21:17, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Marshall D. Gates, Jr.

... that the first synthesis of morphine by Marshall D. Gates, Jr. in 1956 came a full 27 years after its structure had been determined by Robert Robinson?

5x expanded by Mdlevin (talk). Self nom at 06:27, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article has not yet been expanded 5x and is under 1500 characters. The hook fact is not directly cited. - PM800 (talk) 02:47, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 29

Prince's Theatre, Manchester

... that the first production at the Prince's Theatre, Manchester was Shakespeare's The Tempest, on 15 October 1864?

Created by Malleus Fatuorum (talk). Nominated by TParis00ap (talk) at 00:00, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Prince's Theatre, Manchester was the first to introduce tip-up seats?

Created by Malleus Fatuorum (talk). Nominated by TParis00ap (talk) at 00:00, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WS-199, Alpha Draco

... that the Alpha Draco rocket (pictured), developed as part of Weapons System 199, evaluated the lifting body principle for reentry vehicles?

Comment: Reviewed SMS Prinzregent Luitpold.

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Earl T. O'Loughlin

... that Earl T. O'Loughlin influenced the development of the B-1B Lancer?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 22:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Warhola

... that before his death, John Warhola's father told him to take care of John's younger brother, Andy Warhol, and "make sure he goes to school, because he's going to be successful someday"?

Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 21:59, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert D. Russ

... that Robert D. Russ served as a general and a commander yet he received a master's degree in business administration?

Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Minimac (talk) at 21:38, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Damn, you beat me too it. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article is copied from http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=6994. The rules state: "Try to pick articles that are original to Wikipedia (not inclusions of free data sources)". - PM800 (talk) 22:52, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And as noted elsewhere, there's a discussion at WT:DYK about this subject, and suggesting including articles like this, especially during slow times. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:08, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tethys fimbria

... that sea slug Tethys fimbria (pictured) captures crustaceans, although it has no radula?

Created by Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 20:17, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Emmett Thomas

... that Lee Emmett Thomas, as mayor of Shreveport, Louisiana, pushed for construction of his city's Municipal Auditorium, which hosted the defunct Louisiana Hayride between 1948 and 1960?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:58, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SMS Prinzregent Luitpold

... that the German battleship SMS Prinzregent Luitpold (pictured) was the only ship of her class designed to mount a diesel engine, though it was never fitted?

5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 19:29, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me. AGF on offline source. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:10, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

High Virgo

... that the High Virgo air-launched ballistic missile was launched from a B-58 bomber at a speed of Mach 2?

Comment: reviewed Leo Fishel

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 18:27, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, sourcing and history for article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 21:57, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Court of Appeal of Singapore

... that a Singapore Subordinate Court criminal case appealed to the High Court cannot be further appealed to the Court of Appeal, but questions of law can be referred to that Court for determination?

Created by Jacklee (talk). Self nom at 17:38, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The information in the hook is supported by footnotes 53 and 69–74. The Court of Appeal was established on 9 January 1970 so unfortunately we missed its 40th anniversary, but perhaps we can celebrate its 41st by having the hook appear on 9 January 2011? — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 17:40, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(I've reviewed and approved "1st Provisional Marine Brigade".) — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 18:09, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leo Fishel

... that Leo Fishel was the first Jewish pitcher in Major League Baseball?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 15:57, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks OK from here. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:27, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Museum of Mosaics, Devnya

... that the Museum of Mosaics in Devnya, Bulgaria exhibits a mosaic of the gorgon Medusa (pictured) which was supposed to turn away evil?

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 13:04, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

khatyrkite, cupalite

... that quasicrystals (structure example pictured) occur in nature, embedded in the rare minerals khatyrkite and cupalite?

Comment: see khatyrkite and, for example, this ref. Caption is for the left image. The right one is a crystal itself. Materialscientist (talk) 10:19, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 10:19, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kota tribe

... that Kota tribe shows M haplogroup frequency of 97% which is one of the highest in India?

5x expanded by Kanatonian (talk). Self nom at 07:33, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sy Mah

... that Sy Mah, who set a Guinness World Records mark for the most lifetime marathons, ran his first marathon in the same race in which he coached 13-year-old Maureen Wilton to run the women’s world fastest marathon?

Created by Location (talk). Self nom at 06:49, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question to reviewers: Should "first marathon" be changed to "first one" given that the word "marathon" appears three times in the hook? Location (talk) 07:28, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Al Burris

... that Al Burris was a Major League Baseball player, a college baseball coach, and a college athletic director at the age of 20?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 05:41, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Dacre, 4th Baron Dacre

... that by the age of fourteen all three orphaned daughters of Thomas Dacre had married one of the three sons of their step-father, the 4th Duke of Norfolk (pictured)?

Comment: I reviewed The Incredible Melting Man.

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 05:13, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Psst. The having to review another nomination thing doesn't start until January 1. But good job on getting the jump on the whole idea. You're awesome! Silverseren^C 05:23, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gottlob Espenlaub

~~... that Gottlob Espenlaub was a German aircraft designer who created numerous types of rocket-propelled gliders in the 1920's and 30's?~~

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 04:53, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and refs verified. Suggest to use a more precise hook which is supported by the source, also changed wl and typo, left Glider aircraft for readers unfamiliar with the subject:

ALT1:... that the German aircraft designer Gottlob Espenlaub first tested his design of a rocket-propelled glider on 29 October 1929? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:16, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

support ALT1, gota love a name like that. FeydHuxtable (talk) 13:11, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't the absence of a propulsion system the very thing that defines a glider? --Crusio (talk) 13:17, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's why I suggested "Glider aircraft", not just "glider". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So then this seems to be wrong to me: both the article and the hook redirect "glider aircraft" to the article about "glider", which is defined as an aircraft without propulsion. Calling it a "glider aircraft" does not seem to do the job to me. Why does it have to be a "glider"? Why not simply "aircraft"? Few people will know that anybody was experimenting already in the 1920s with rocket-propelled aircraft. "glider" just seems an (incorrect) distraction. --Crusio (talk) 14:18, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, added a wiki link to Rocket glider. Rocket propelled gliders are correctly called gliders as they land unpowered. Its not uncommon for sources to call flyers gliders as long as any propulsion system isnt integral. FeydHuxtable (talk) 14:35, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have taken the liberty to change that link in the hook, too. --Crusio (talk) 14:52, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Got it, changed ALT1, the hook approved, accordingly and crossed out the other one, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:08, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds fine. Silverseren^C 16:24, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Pratt (baseball)

... that physical education teacher Mary Pratt pitched a no-hitter in the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League?

Created by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 02:34, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Makana (prophet)

... that Nelson Mandela proposed that Robben Island, where he was imprisoned for eighteen years, be renamed after Xhosa warrior and prophet Makana?

Created by Underlying lk (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robotics;Notes

... that the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency is assisting 5pb. with the development of Robotics;Notes, their upcoming visual novel and latest entry in their science adventure series?

Created by Ike-bana (talk). Self nom at 17:52, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 30

Brazo

... that the name of the Brazo anti-radiation missile was intended as a pun?

Comment: Reviewed Sunstone (medieval).

Created by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 01:23, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

January 1, 2011

Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied, BWV 190

... that the opening chorus of Bach's cantata for New Year's Day, Singet dem Herrn ein neues Lied, BWV 190, combines verses of two psalms (pictured) and Luther's Te Deum?

Comment: for 1 January, for which it was written, New Years's Day and also Circumcision and Naming of Jesus

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 09:47, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added a possible picture, illustration of psalm 150, one of the two psalms mentioned, and also illustrating Sing a new song unto the Lord, translation of the cantata title from the psalm 149, the other one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:11, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Circumcision of Jesus

... that the Gospel of Luke states that the Circumcision of Jesus (pictured) took place eight days after his birth?

Comment: I have a special date request for this one. The Feast of the Circumcision of Christ is January 1, and this would be especially appropriate for that day. In lieu of that, December 25 would be appropriate. Raul654 (talk) 22:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Raul654 (talk) and User:Johnbod. Self nom at 22:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Image fine, refs look good, removed stub assessment, but not sure you are allowed an external in line ref in the text? Although I agree it looks neat here. Tick when resolved Victuallers (talk) 23:16, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you're talking about the {{Bibleverse-nb}} template, that's the correct way to cite a Bible verse on Wikipedia. – iridescent 23:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was, so

Victuallers (talk) 09:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've added myself to the nom, as I wrote most of it. Johnbod (talk) 14:06, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I corrected the artist in the caption here and in the article, the painting illustrated is by Friedrich Herlin, not Fritz Herlen. Moonraker2 (talk) 20:03, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 23:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(For January 1, 2011), Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?

ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: ~~Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?~~
--K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:

Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. Silverseren^C 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren^C 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk ^(talk) 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Arsenikk. The Utahraptor ^{Talk to me}/_{Contributions} 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—Chris!_c/t 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support, per Chrishomingtang (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - This was initially nominated in a timely manner, with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. cmadler (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support I agree with NW, but don't think we need to IAR, considering that hooks are regularly kept back for months for the April fools and Halloween main pages. I don't think we should treat this any differently. Smartse (talk) 10:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - The Bushranger _{Return fire}^{Flank speed} 17:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional support if, and only if, the squabble with the feds is over. ScottyBerg (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I'm worried that this is too obviously a matter of giving the FBI the proverbial finger than promoting something encyclopedic. I'm all for criticizing the FBI, but we shouldn't invoke exceptions to basic guidelines just to promote our own POV. It seems far more prudent to pull up your sleeves and make this a quickie FA or get it on "On this day". Peter ^Isotalo 10:43, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose. ALT2 is a better hook than ALT1, but it would be better still on OTD than DYK (it would get more readers that way, as well). Physchim62 (talk) 17:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - ALT1 is just a boost or peacock term on FBI. ALT2 is better, but I did not feel it to be so special to be included in DYK. -- Rajith Mohan ^{(Talk to me..)} 06:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Arsenikk. Send to OTD instead. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support For the reasons stated above.Thelmadatter (talk) 23:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support For the reasons that mentioned above.--NovaSkola (talk) 08:12, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support but please add a picture. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:09, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose While I feel that the nominator is being hard done by, OTD would seem to be a better home for this then DYK, considering all the issues. Schwede66 03:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support The hook was valid and interesting when first proposed, and delaying it was a political compromise. If the DYK is now denied due to the delay, this will interfere with the ability to negotiate any such compromise in the future. Wnt (talk) 13:43, 12 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support with seal pictured WP:NOTCENSORED no exceptions. P. S. Burton (talk) 20:57, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Fourth month old article can not be listed under headings "From Wikipedia's newest articles:" on the main page. If the hook will pass, I will nominate numerous articles (regardless of their age) (and numerous wikipedians would probably do the same), that were refused as DYK hooks only because of accidental dis-interpretation of DYK rules by reviewers. Selection of DYK hooks will always be subjective and it is pity that this one has been refused 4 months ago. --Snek01 (talk) 22:25, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm personally opposed to this hook at this time, though not so vehemently opposed as to register a formal opinion here. I am concerned, however, by the statement that if this hook is allowed due to unusual circumstances, you will nominate numerous other articles that do not qualify for DYK for completely unrelated reasons. This could be construed as a violation of the principle that we do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point, and I hope that no one would engage in such practice. Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:30, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Under the same logic then, all articles that have been expanded fivefold or more can not be listed under the heading "From Wikipedia's newest articles:" on the main page.—Chris!_c/t 05:50, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2 January 2011, Sunday after New Year

Schau, lieber Gott, wie meine Feind, BWV 153

... that Bach began the fifth cantata of his first Christmas season in Leipzig, Schau, lieber Gott, wie meine Feind, BWV 153, first performed on 2 January 1724, with a chorale?

Comment: for 2 January, day of the first performance, and in 2011 a Sunday as in 1724, - no room to add that thus "he made life a lot easier for his choir" (Gardiner), or is it?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:51, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The hook as is is fine IMHO. Good to go.--White Shadows ^{Those Christmas lights} 23:49, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

6 January 2011, Epiphany