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"Reed Mangels of the department of nutrition at the University of Massachusetts Amherst writes that a" is in the B12 section. But it precedes what should only be basic health facts about B12 deficiency, I think, so I don't think the attribution is necessary. Biosthmors (talk) 22:40, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Biosthmors, thanks. There's in-text attribution in places for various reasons. I'll look at that section again with a view to moving it. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 00:32, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidsoup, I see you removed the in-text attribution. I've restored it, but moved it to a different place in that section. The reason it's there is that a lot of the section depends on her, so I want to give her credit. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:57, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK Wikidsoup _[talk] 19:53, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to change the date format to day-month-year (17 December 2012) because it looks tidier (no commas). This is the sort of style issue we're meant to ask about before changing, so if anyone objects please let me know. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 19:39, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I thought this was already the recommended format for WP. If not, it should be. Go for it. Kellen^T 20:04, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, done. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 16:10, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm uncomfortable with the following two sections added recently, which I have removed and pasted here for further discussion.

Firstly,

"UN Supports Veganism"

"A global shift towards a vegan diet is vital to save the world from hunger, fuel poverty and the worst impacts of climate change." United Nations

As the global population surges towards a predicted 9.1 billion people by 2050, western tastes for diets rich in meat and dairy products are unsustainable, says the report from United Nations Environment Programme's (UNEP) international panel of sustainable resource management. ^[1]

It says: "Impacts from agriculture are expected to increase substantially due to population growth increasing consumption of animal products. Unlike fossil fuels, it is difficult to look for alternatives: people have to eat. A substantial reduction of impacts would only be possible with a substantial worldwide diet change, away from animal products." ^[2]

I think this material might be suitable if we remove some of the original research and fix the attribution. For example, the IPSRM citation is to a presentation given at a workshop, and is not an official statement of the UN. Ultimately I am unsure if a workshop presentation is a reliable source.

Secondly, from the always-fun pregnancies and children section:

It has also been reported that vegan breast milk is insufficient for growing infants and babies, and poses a real risk of stunted growth and brain development. The New York Times reports: "The breast milk of vegetarian and vegan mothers is dramatically lower in a critical brain fat, DHA, than the milk of an omnivorous mother and contains less usable vitamin B6. Carnitine, a vital amino acid found in meat and breast milk, is nicknamed “vitamin Bb” because babies need so much of it. Vegans, vegetarians and people with poor thyroid function are often deficient in carnitine and its precursors.

The most risky period for vegan children is weaning. Growing babies who are leaving the breast need complete protein, omega-3 fats, iron, calcium and zinc. Compared with meat, fish, eggs and dairy, plants are inferior sources of every one." ^[3]

I don't like citing health claims to an op-ed in the NYT. Ideally we should look to WP:MEDRS-compliant sources for specific statements of this sort. Comments? Skinwalker (talk) 17:28, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]