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Where was the consensus? Why was it moved unilaterally without the proper WP:RM process? I for one contest User:Nado158's reasoning. IJA (talk) 16:50, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Trepča Stadium → Olympic Stadium Adem Jashari – The Article Olympic Stadium Adem Jashari was moved to Trepča Stadium unilaterally by User:Nado158 without the Wikipedia:Requested moves process. I for one contest User:Nado158's reasoning. It is important that we move pages via the proper processes with a consensus. I am now unable to restore the status quo as it says "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason: A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name". I do not believe Nado158's rationale is fair either. The Serbian name certainly isn't neutral either. I propose restoring the status quo. I also propose moving it per WP:COMMONNAME, it is the predominant name for the stadium in the English language. Here are just a few recent examples BBC Kosova Press RoK Ministry of Sport and Culture SPORTAL New Zealand Daily Sabah Inside the Games Balkan EU Soccer Way Haiti Sports World Bulletin Regards IJA (talk) 17:34, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per WP:COMMONNAME. 23 editor (talk) 00:57, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per IJA's reasoning. Bazonka (talk) 17:17, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Dont support. Trepca stadium ist neutral and was the name for about 60 years. A part of the population in Kosovska Mitrovica dont accept the name, which was changed and named after the contorversal Adem Jashari by Albanians. The Serbian team is dont allowd after 60 years to play there, so this name is NPOV Lemma.--Nado158 (talk) 17:52, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So and Adem Jashari is neutral? Do you knowe that both clubs of Mitrovica calle Trepca? The Serbian FK Trepca and the ALbanian KF Trepca, so Trepca stadium ist neutral, not after Adem Jashari, for all non albanians a terrorist.--Nado158 (talk) 17:55, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Remember that this is English-language Wikipedia, not Serbian- or Albanian-language Wikipedia. Usage here must reflect the commonest contemporary usage in English - unless you have contrary evidence, IJA has shown that this is highly likely to be Olympic Stadium Adem Jashari. Of course, the article should mention alternative local names. How you or others regard Adem Jashari as a person is irrelevant, as are the names of clubs that play at the stadium. All that matters is the stadium's commonest contemporary English-language name. Bazonka (talk) 18:28, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Because of this Trepca Stadium is the neutral name...[1]

That's one article on a German website using Trepca. IJA gave 10 examples above using Adem Jashari. And anyway, it's not about neutrality, it's about common usage. Bazonka (talk) 19:56, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments Nado158, however what the stadium used to be called is irrelevant; on Wikipedia we use the most common contemporary name in the English Language per WP:COMMONNAME. And it is also irrelevant whether you think Adem Jashari is a terrorist or not. The Serbian name "Trepča Stadium" is not neutral because it is not the name used for the stadium in the English language, it may have been in the past but it certainly isn't any more. "Olympic Stadium Adem Jashari" is not only the common name in the English language, it is also the official name of the stadium. And what one German language source calls the stadium is also irrelevant because this is English Wikipedia not German or Serbian Wikipedia. I've even managed to find two recent English language books which use the name "Olympic Stadium Adem Jashari": Football in Kosovo: Kosovo National Football Team, Football Federation of Kosovo, Raiffeisen Superliga Season 2008-09 (2010) and Thirty-One Nil: On the Road With Football's Outsiders: A World Cup Odyssey (2014). IJA (talk) 22:29, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Support: Titles are about commonality. Not neutrality. Nado158s edits across the project show a Serbian nationalist slant when it comes to this football club and its homegrounds.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 11:51, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear IJA, So i think a neutral name will be Trepca Stadium? or Trepcha Stadium? This is neutral, but not Adem Jahari Stadium. What you think about that) Yes, its English Wikipedia, but not only for English people, in many countries they dont accept the new name.--Nado158 (talk) 13:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear, User:Ryulong, be careful with your words ok, you dont know nothing abut the sport in this region and its history. This are not my opinion or nationalistic slant ok. You dont nothing. Nationalistic is to destroy and rape history and take foreign history from others and take it as own. Nothing is my opinion, this are historical facts. To remove these facts or to block these facts are nationalistic slant.--Nado158 (talk) 13:58, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I add sources there, maybe you will noe understand more. Your POV can be right and the FIFA and UEFA rules wrong.--Nado158 (talk) 14:00, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's not about POV, but about WP:COMMONNAME. Bazonka (talk) 14:10, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Didnt mean the stadium name. However, we have here a special situation, and we must explain this.--Nado158 (talk) 14:14, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care too much what you deem "neutral" or not because we name things based on what the most common name is in the English language. The common name for the stadium in the English language is "Olympic Stadium Adem Jashari". This has nothing to do with what English people call the stadium, it is what the English language calls the stadium. I provided English language sources from all over the world to support this.

You seem to be ignorning WP:CommonName, this is because whatever you argue, you will not be able to prove that a name for the Stadium other than Olympic Stadium Adem Jashari is the contemporary common name.

Which UEFA and FIFA rules are wrong? And what has that got to do with this WP:RM? IJA (talk) 14:27, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah of course, the stadium had this name sind 60 years, than it was forcible renaming in the last year after one side deciosion, all English media take over the name, of cource, who cares the history and the truth, and know this is the name ;), yeahhh, god job. Do what you want, but if someone will change the stadium in your Yorkshire in Osama Bin Ladan Stadium forcible for example, than you will understand if its importen to explain this here or not. So, do what you whant. Change Belgrad in Adem Jashari City if you want, also Milos Obilic in Albanian Super Hero. Yes, if i want to explain the truth i am nationalisti rigth? Ok, of cource. Bye.!--Nado158 (talk) 15:26, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the half world they dont call it Adem Jashari Stadium, but because the English and US-american Media, you think the whole English media in the world use this name. Yes, beacasue of the wrong Name here maybe ;). However, i was for the neutral Version, but ok, i am the NPOV. Regards to big Yorkshire ;).--Nado158 (talk) 16:32, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]