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Talk:List of wars involving Great Britain#List format / content

Thanks. David (talk) 17:08, 23 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

...the Cold War? can it at least be mentioned? 50.54.221.0 (talk) 01:23, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is the Russian military involvement in the baltic independence movements a war? January_Events_(Lithuania), The_Barricades

It's unnecessary to list all the people's republics within the Novorossiya confederation. It's also unnecessary to list 'Georgian government' when all other belligerents are referred to by their country. Also, the war in Ukraine is a war, not a conflict. Also, the North Ossetia paramilitary name should be abbreviated. Does anyone object to these changes? DylanLacey (talk) 07:28, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

According to this article it seems that World War II started in 1941. According to the vast majority of historians, and also Wikipedia, World War II started in September 1939 with the nazi/communist attack on Poland. Since the Soviet Union changed side in the war in 1941, from then on fighting on the same side as the democratic nations, one practical way of presenting this, considering the unique position of the Soviet Union, might be to divide World War II into two sections, before and after June 1941 respectively. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.232.224.158 (talk) 17:01, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1941 refers to the period when the Soviet Union entered World War II as part of the Allied Powers. The Soviet Union was never on the side of Germany. They signed a non-aggression pact. DylanLacey (talk) 06:21, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thailand has been occupied by Japan in 1941, why it is as "Axix" in WWII section?--5.228.251.127 (talk) 23:42, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The USSR didn't achieve its military goals and the DRA fell after the Soviet withdrawal. That's pretty much the same situation as the US in Vietnam, and that's listed as a "defeat" on the list of US wars. There should be a consistent standard here throughout Wikipedia. JohnM.Kelly (talk) 19:36, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, these are both defeats for occupying forces and should be listed similarly. No Matter How Dark (talk) 19:38, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@JohnM.Kelly: Consider reading WP:OR. It was not a defeat but withdrawal. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 02:29, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have RS for 'defeat'? If not, it's problematic and I'd have to qualify the use of that description as OR as I don't see how it meets with any of the criteria for WP:SYNTHNOT. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Iryna Harpy: Keeping it withdrawal per WP:BRD. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 04:47, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'd accept 'withdrawal'. I know that it's used as a parallel to the Vietnam War, but the circumstances were far more complex, and certainly there was no period of stability for any relevant period of time suggesting the marking of the end of war in that region, full stop. On those grounds, I don't see how Wikipedia can ascribe 'defeat' in the same sense that the Vietnam War was a US defeat. There are certainly situations where being consistent in the use of terminology is of value for the sake of parity, but this isn't one of them (again invoking WP:SYNTH). --Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:15, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

When was there a stoppage in fighting? The article on the Afghan Civil War talks about fighting continuing in the spring of 1989 right after the Soviet withdrawal in February, and in 1990. The siege of Khost continued into 1991. The separation of the Afghan Civil War into separate articles seems wholly arbitrary (but that's beyond the scope of this one page). Again, why isn't there a separate article for the "American War in Vietnam" or for any other war where countries entered and exited the conflict? Looking through the old discussion on the Vietnam War on the US wars page, a point was made about "withdrawal" not being a "result" of a war. The lists of wars are a good collective resource, so it seems like there would be an effort to have the same standards across them. The Soviets didn't partially achieve some of their goals so the old describer of "stalemate" doesn't work either. Here's a Foreign Affairs article referring to it as a defeat on several occasions, although I'm sure you could find plenty of academic sources calling it both a stalemate/withdrawal and a defeat, respectively, so a lack of sources isn't the issue for either end of the discussion. JohnM.Kelly (talk) 05:52, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What about 1993 Russian constitutional crisis? Should be considered as conflict, because force was used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeeMusil (talk • contribs) 11:53, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wars, not conflicts. As violent as the constitutional crisis was, it doesn't qualify as a war. - SantiLak (talk) 23:07, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Russian empire should be definitely listed among the winners of WW1, since it was with the side of the winning allies, militarily it won the battles, and it played a crucial role, in the overall victory. The fact that the Bolsheviks did a revolution, changed the system and continued with a civil war, while signing temporary treaties, that they changed later on, unfavorable to by then, ex-Russian empire, with the Central powers, in order to leave them be, to continue with their internal changes of the system and the civil war, doesn't change that.Ron1978 (talk) 21:51, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make changes, start here and leave this article aline. I'm not going to waste any precious time on this. --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 23:12, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]