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== disadvantages of Lamborghini Countach ==
== Disadvantages of Lamborghini Countach ==


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Also appalling rear visibility. Also the name is rude in Italian. Also the build quality of the chassis is terrible. So I think I'll buy a Golf instead. [[User:Greglocock|Greglocock]] ([[User talk:Greglocock|talk]]) 00:16, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Also appalling rear visibility. Also the name is rude in Italian. Also the build quality of the chassis is terrible. So I think I'll buy a Golf instead. [[User:Greglocock|Greglocock]] ([[User talk:Greglocock|talk]]) 00:16, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

121.102.122.122, honestly, I don't care what you think about the disadvantages. Your contribution is comparable to trash. It's useless. Sign yourself if you are a man.

[[User:ICE77|ICE77]] ([[User talk:ICE77|talk]]) 03:11, 25 October 2014 (UTC)


== Question about the replicas ==
== Question about the replicas ==

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Lamborghini and bulls

This article states that the prevalence of car names relating to bulls is due to Lamborghini's enthusiasm for bullfighting. The main article on Lamborghini directly contradicts this, stating, "Ferruccio himself never was a bullfighting supporter but loved Bulls and was a Taurus...".

They can't both be right. Which is correct?

The main article is wrong. Consider: first, the "espada" is named after the spanish bullfighting sword. (So is the Lamborghini show car "Faena") Second, "Miura" is a breed of bull specifically bred to fight (specifically, a sub-type of the Navarro strain created by Don AAntonio Miura). "Jalpa" is also a breed of fighting bull. "Islero" is the name of a bull who gored and killed the matador Manuel Rodrigues in 1947.

Lamborghini naming after Feruccio's death continues the tradition: "Diablo" is thre bull owned by thr Duke of Veragua who fought a well-known battle with the matador Chicarro in Madrid in 1869. "Gallardo" is a breed of fighting bulls. Murciélago is a bull that survived two dozen stab wounds in an 1879 bull fight. Beyond the bulls themselves, why is the "Jarama" named after the Spanish region/roadrace circuit? Becasuse Mr. Lamborghini loved bullfighting! I will be researching my books for Lamborghini info, because all the Lambo-related articles are pretty poor! Reimelt 22:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC

Translation

The lead mentions "Countach" being a profane expletive, then calling it akin to "Holy bleeping cow!" However, "Holy bleeping cow" is generally not considered profane. Being as Wikipedia is not bowdlerized, is there a better translation? Deltabeignet 02:47, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There seem to be alternative versions of the name origin floating round, for instance this one. The profanity story is unsourced. --Robert Merkel 03:39, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
here's another version. Maybe we should ask on the Italian Wikipedia about this. --Robert Merkel 03:41, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've asked a question at the Italian Wikimedia Embassy to see if they can shed any light on this topic. --Robert Merkel 03:53, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On Top Gear, they said that Countach was roughly equivelant to 'phwoar'. Not exactly profane, but they are on the BBC. Meeper 05:32, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno about what the word means, but I can point out that Lamborghini is based in Romagna, not in Piemonte, so they wouldn't have picked an expression in the 'local' Piemonteis, because Piemonteis is not the local language. If anything it would be the local Bolognese variant of Emiliano-Romagnol, however I don't know if it is, since I don't speak either Piemonteis, or Bolognese. Seek100 23:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Piedmontese is local to Turin, where Bertone is established, not to Bologna, where Lamborghini is established. According to the article, "Countach" was the expression Nuccio Bertone used when he first saw the car. Respectfully, SamBlob 16:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'd have thought part of it's derivation was pretty obvious. Think about the French and English swearwords. Yeah, that one. Greglocock 05:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Likely, but not necessarily so. See false friend for the possibilites. Respectfully, SamBlob 22:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of horsepower or price of the sports car?

The article mentions the displacement and configuration of the engines, but makes no mention of the power they produced.

Talking about the price of the car, as this comes from one issue of the 1985 issue of Car (the one with the Countach QV5000 on the cover) which I still have, the price of the Countach in 1985 was somewhere around £85,000. I will need to look up at that magazine again when I got the time. Willirennen 19:29, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How inexperienced could Gandini have been?

"Gandini was then a young, inexperienced designer—not very experienced in the practical, ergonomic aspects of automobile design, but at the same time unhindered by them."

Considering that he was the Bertone stylist who did the Miura in 1965-66, how inexperienced could he have been when he started styling the Countach?

Respectfully, SamBlob 15:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pop culture trivia

Okay, are we going to list every single appearance the Countach made in a television program, video game, or film? I hope not, as that could number in the hundreds. Some of these "appearances in pop culture" are beginning to look like fan trivia. Can we clean this section up or move the most notable appearances into the main article? --Vossanova o< 19:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To Lee Vonce: thanks for cutting it down, but I think you went a bit too far. I summarized it from the original, and turned it into a paragraph, which will hopefully discourage people from adding indiscriminate items like a list. --Vossanova o< 01:39, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CSZero suggested to remove the Trivia section entirely, and I'm inclined to agree. If we can hold an informal vote here, I'd say delete. --Vossanova o< 15:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree on delete as it has become a subject of abuse, the biggest problem is, the fanbois, you know that lot whose only access to European supercars is having a poster of a naked woman draped on one in their bedroom walls, as they spend their day and night playing NFS, PGR, they don't want to see a bit about their dream car mentioned on their beloved game be deleted. More recently the problem I had with numerous pages, particularly the Toyota Supra bit which I had tried to kill off. The problem with popular cars like these are, like Kenny from South Park, once killed off, these articles will always creep back after each episodes. Willirennen 23:53, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that we should not list each and every appearance of the Countach in popular culture. We should keep some mention of it being the iconic sports car of the 1980's (perhaps in the opening paragraph).SolarWind (talk)

Replicas built by Prova Cars were prominently featured in It Takes Two (1988 film). One of the cars was essentially a character in the film due to the many creative ways its many high-tech features constantly failed to work correctly. Prova appears to still be in business. http://www.premierkitcars.com/prova.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bizzybody (talk • contribs) 05:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

External Links

Re-added link. Website is not commercial as the manufacterer does not exist anymore. This page is the only page containing most history facts about the UK lamborghini replica scene to be foud on the web. Countachfan 21:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But this is the only external link for the article. We should find a general (preferably official) Countach site before adding one specific to UK Countach replicas. Anyway, I'll wait to hear some other opinions. --Vossanova o< 21:17, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

5000QV or LP500 QuattroValvole or LP500S QV?

This article talks about the 5000QV while http://www.lambocars.com calls the same car as the LP500 QuattroValvole. At the end of this article the car is also called LP500S QV. Which name is correct?

ICE77 -- 81.104.129.226 19:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Preceding speed record car?

I know that the Ruf CTR held the speed record for production car for a time. It is also the right time frame, being produced in 1986. I noticed there was no preceding speed record car shown, and I was wondering if the CTR was it. If so, it should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.69.60.29 (talk) 06:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fastest car

This car is apparently faster than than its successor. Am I missing something? Vimescarrot (talk) 09:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Composite Countach

http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/Countach/CountachEvoluzione/index.html 1987 Countach Evoluzione, a one-off prototype, destroyed in a crash test. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bizzybody (talk • contribs) 05:42, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name: spelling and meaning

I am Piedmontese so I need to point out how approximative the "name" section is.

  • The original (Piemontese) spelling of the word is cuntacc. The spelling "countach" is original and has probably been chosen to avoid the international misunderstandings that a name containing the word "cunt" would cause.
  • The literal meaning of cuntacc is "contagion", but the word is practically never used in its literal meaning, and many Piedmontese speakers don't even know the literal meaning. Instead, it's always used as an interjection which corresponds to the English "Damn!". Thus, its context is much more general than "a wolf-whistle" or "an exclamation used by men on seeing an extremely beautiful woman". A Piedmontese speaker could exclaim "Cuntacc!" on discovering he is late for work, or in response to something that annoys him, or even in response to something astonishing. It's not impossible that Nuccio Bertone exclaimed "Cuntacc!" when he saw the design for the first time, but that does not mean he compared the car to a beautiful woman: try to imagine instead an English speaker seeing an extremely stylish car, going wide-eyed and saying "Daaaamn!" and the analogy still remains. Devil Master (talk) 18:37, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Devil Master, for being Piedmontese you don't sound very competent. The word Countach comes from the Piedmontese word contacc which is the proper spelling for the exclamation. If you truly knew the rules of grammar, you'd know that the sound U is produced in the majority of cases by an O. The meaning of the exclamation as described by Devil Master is proper. Contacc does not have any correlation with beautiful women. It's just a typical idiotic stereotype. Whoever came up with it just invented it.

ICE77 (talk) 14:51, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it comes from the cited source, Legendary Cars by Larry Edsall. However, that book has several mistakes in it, including several inaccuracies (for example, in the "BMW 328" section, it completely mangles BMW's early history), so I will not contest this removal (actually, I didn't contest the one at the Lamborghini article, either).
But if the meaning as described by Devil Master is correct, then why do you contest me describing the word as an expletive? That's what an expletive is! Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 17:06, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

All I am saying is that contacc means something like wow and there is no correlation with hot women.

ICE77 (talk) 03:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just exotic

Lamborghini Countach is just exotic. It's very exotic but not luxury because tall drivers (above 5ft10in) cannot drive it. It has lack of legroom and headroom. Nagara373 (talk) 06:59, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jeremy Clarkson, who is 6 ft 5 in tall, has been filmed driven driving one. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 14:03, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

296 or 320? And who says so?

There seems to be a minor edit war going on regarding the posted top speed of the Lamborghini Countach. One editor insists that the top speed was 296 km/h while another insists it was 320 km/h. Neither cites a source for his/her statement.

Can anyone shed any light on the subject?

Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 18:43, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know that you can make accurate comparisons between different cars as some may be magazine test results, some manufacturers sales talk and both figures may be atypical. For what its worth, Lamborghini's site [1] lists the LP400S with a top speed of 315kmh, the LP500S as 300kmh. Mighty Antar (talk) 19:14, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If the manufacturer has an official figure, post that. Otherwise, you're dealing with test results, and no figure is the "right" answer, just what the tester came up with. If it were up to me, I'd probably leave top speed and acceleration figures out, but you may consider including a range of results, or the 2-3 most "noteworthy" (up to the masses to decide which are the "best") results. --Vossanova o< 19:27, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Replicas in movies.

Several Countach replicas were made for It_Takes_Two_(1988 film) The company continued to sell replica kits for a while after the movie was made. Bizzybody (talk) 08:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name: pronunciation

The prooflink doesn't work anymore. Is it sure that the accent falls onto the second syllable? --Max Shakhray (talk) 08:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but anyway the recording is wrong: the final is [tʃ] (affricate) not [ʃ], thus [kunˈtɑtʃ] or, in Piedmontese, [kuŋˈtatʃ] with a velar nasal sound typical of Northern Italian dialects.--Carnby (talk) 23:08, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The recording is indeed incorrect and the ending of the word should be [tʃ] and not [ʃ]. I removed the link since the pronunciation is wrong. The ending would sound like "ch" of Chile. Regarding the "Northern Italian dialects", the expression should be rather "Northern Italian dialects and languages" since many languages there are not dialects of Italian. This is in fact true for Piedmontese. All you have to do is to look at the linguistic classification of most Northern languages which are not related to the Italian language.

ICE77 (talk) 14:56, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Disadvantages of Lamborghini Countach

Disadvantages of Lamborghini Countach:

  1. too small
  2. gas guzzler
  3. lack of legroom
  4. lack of headroom

121.102.122.122 (talk) 11:08, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also too hot and too expensive, but how does any of this help improve the article? Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 13:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also appalling rear visibility. Also the name is rude in Italian. Also the build quality of the chassis is terrible. So I think I'll buy a Golf instead. Greglocock (talk) 00:16, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

121.102.122.122, honestly, I don't care what you think about the disadvantages. Your contribution is comparable to trash. It's useless. Sign yourself if you are a man.

ICE77 (talk) 03:11, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question about the replicas

I was wondering if the replicas are just kits, or fully complete cars that are ready to drive? Portillo (talk) 21:29, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The replicas wouldn't be legal to sell as brand new cars, so they're all kits. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 00:13, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. So you have to build it yourself, or buy a used one? Portillo (talk) 01:19, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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