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[[File:The Eastern Kilkennies - may the knot hold - J.S. Pughe. LCCN2011645514.jpg|thumb|"The Eastern Kilkennies — may the knot hold": ''[[Puck (magazine)|Puck]]'' (1904) hopes the [[Russo-Japanese War]] in [[Manchuria]] will debilitate both [[Empire of Japan|Japan]] and [[Russian Empire|Russia]]]]
[[File:The Eastern Kilkennies - may the knot hold - J.S. Pughe. LCCN2011645514.jpg|thumb|"The Eastern Kilkennies — may the knot hold": ''[[Puck (magazine)|Puck]]'' (1904) hopes the [[Russo-Japanese War]] in [[Manchuria]] will debilitate both [[Empire of Japan|Japan]] and [[Russian Empire|Russia]]]]
The '''Kilkenny cats''' are a fabled pair of cats from [[County Kilkenny]] (or [[Kilkenny]] city in particular) in Ireland, who fought each other so ferociously that only their tails remained at the end of the battle. Often the absurd implication is that they have eaten each other.{{#tag:ref|
The '''Kilkenny cats''' are a fabled pair of cats from [[County Kilkenny]] (or [[Kilkenny city]] in particular) in Ireland, who fought each other so ferociously that only their tails remained at the end of the battle. Often the absurd implication is that they have eaten each other.
"P. M'Teague" was Philip Meadows Taylor, father of Colonel [[Philip Meadows Taylor]].<ref>{{cite web |last1=Simons |first1=Gary |last2=Leary |first2=Patrick |title=The Curran Index: Additions, Corrections, And Expansions Of The Wellesley Index To Victorian Periodicals |url=https://victorianresearch.org/curranindex.html |website=victorianresearch.org |access-date=8 November 2019 |date=2016}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal |editor-last1=Dickens |editor-first1=Charles |editor-last2=Ainsworth |editor-first2=William Harrison |editor-last3=Smith |editor-first3=Albert |author="P. M'Teague" |title=Watty Flaherty; Chapter I |journal=Bentley's Miscellany |date=1840 |volume=VII |pages=391–404: 395 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=rLkRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA395 |access-date=8 November 2019 |publisher=Richard Bentley |location=London |quote="A Kilkenny cat!" exclaimed Mr. O'Dowd. "Why they eat one another up!"}}</ref> In the nineteenth century the Kilkenny cats were a common [[simile]] for any conflict likely to ruin both combatants. ''Kilkenny cat'' is also used more generally for a fierce fighter or quarrelsome person. These senses are now rather dated.<ref>{{cite book |title=Longman English-Chinese dictionary of English idioms |date=1995 |publisher=Pearson |location=Hong Kong |isbn=978-962-359-985-6 |page=164}}; {{cite journal |last=Pierini |first=Patrizia |title=Proper Names in English Phraseology |journal=Linguistik Online |date=April 2008 |issue=36 |page=sec 4.6, table 23(d) |url=https://www.linguistik-online.net/36_08/pierini.html |access-date=23 November 2019 |issn=1615-3014}}</ref> In the later twentieth century the motif was [[Reappropriation|reclaimed]] by Kilkenny people as a positive symbol of [[Persistence (psychology)|tenacity]] and fighting spirit, and "the Cats" is the [[GAA county nickname|county nickname]] for the [[Kilkenny GAA|Kilkenny hurling team]].<ref>{{cite web |title=Illustrated Guide to Ireland's Eastern Legends |url=https://www.irelandsancienteast.com/discover/things-to-do/illustrated-guide |website=Ireland's Ancient East |publisher=[[Fáilte Ireland]] |access-date=23 November 2019}}</ref> The original story is attested from 1807 as a simple joke or [[Irish bull]]; some early versions are set elsewhere than Kilkenny. Nevertheless, theories have been offered seeking a historical basis for the story's setting.
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"P. M'Teague" was Philip Meadows Taylor, father of Colonel [[Philip Meadows Taylor]].<ref>{{cite web |last1=Simons |first1=Gary |last2=Leary |first2=Patrick |title=The Curran Index: Additions, Corrections, And Expansions Of The Wellesley Index To Victorian Periodicals |url=https://victorianresearch.org/curranindex.html |website=victorianresearch.org |accessdate=8 November 2019 |date=2016}}</ref>
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{{cite journal |editor-last1=Dickens |editor-first1=Charles |editor-last2=Ainsworth |editor-first2=William Harrison |editor-last3=Smith |editor-first3=Albert |author="P. M'Teague" |title=Watty Flaherty; Chapter I|journal=Bentley's Miscellany|date=1840|volume=VII|pages=391–404: 395|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=rLkRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA395|accessdate=8 November 2019|publisher=Richard Bentley|location=London|quote="A Kilkenny cat!" exclaimed Mr. O'Dowd. "Why they eat one another up!"|language=en}}
}} In the nineteenth century the Kilkenny cats were a common [[simile]] for any conflict likely to ruin both combatants. ''Kilkenny cat'' is also used more generally for a fierce fighter or quarrelsome person. These senses are now rather dated.<ref>{{cite book |title=Longman English-Chinese dictionary of English idioms |date=1995 |publisher=Pearson |location=Hong Kong |isbn=978-962-359-985-6 |page=164 |language=en}}; {{cite journal |last1=Pierini |first1=Patrizia |title=Proper Names in English Phraseology |journal=Linguistik Online |date=April 2008 |issue=36 |page=sec 4.6, table 23(d) |nopp=y |url=https://www.linguistik-online.net/36_08/pierini.html |accessdate=23 November 2019 |issn=1615-3014}}</ref> In the later twentieth century the motif was [[reappropriation|reclaimed]] by Kilkenny people as a positive symbol of [[Persistence (psychology)|tenacity]] and fighting spirit, and "the Cats" is the [[GAA county nickname|county nickname]] for the [[Kilkenny GAA|Kilkenny hurling team]].<ref>{{cite web |title=Illustrated Guide to Ireland's Eastern Legends |url=https://www.irelandsancienteast.com/discover/things-to-do/illustrated-guide |website=Ireland's Ancient East |publisher=[[Fáilte Ireland]] |accessdate=23 November 2019}}</ref> The original story is attested from 1807 as a simple joke or [[Irish bull]]; some early versions are set elsewhere than Kilkenny. Nevertheless, theories have been offered seeking a historical basis for the story's setting.


==Versions of the story==
==Versions of the story==
The earliest attested version of the story is from June 1807, in ''Anthologia'', a collection of jokes and humorous pieces copied by "W.T." of [[Inner Temple]] from unnamed previous publications.<ref>{{cite web |last1=Harper |first1=Douglas |title=kilkenny |url=https://www.etymonline.com/word/kilkenny |website=Online Etymology Dictionary |accessdate=6 November 2019 |language=en}}; {{cite book |last1=Thoreau |first1=Henry David |editor1-last=Gillyboeuf |editor1-first=Thierry |title=Histoire de moi-même |date=2017 |publisher=Le Passeur |isbn=978-2-36890-553-1 |page=fn.113 |nopp=y |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=oRg4DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT122 |accessdate=30 November 2019 |language=fr}}</ref><ref name="Anthologia1807"/> [[Steven Connor]] characterises the story as an [[Irish bull]].<ref name="Connor2017">{{Cite conference |last1=Connor |first1=Steven |title=Ludicrous Inbodiment |conference=Embodiment and Emancipation |url=http://stevenconnor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/inbodiment.pdf |date=7 April 2017 |location=Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies, [[University of Helsinki]]}}</ref> Under the heading "Kilkenny Cats" it runs:<ref name="Anthologia1807">{{cite book |chapter=Kilkenny Cats |title=Anthologia: A Collection of Epigrams, Ludicrous Epitaphs, Sonnets, Tales, Miscellaneous Anecdotes, &c. &c., Interspersed with Originals |author=W.T. |date=1807 |publisher=C. Spilsbury |page=Preface and p.55 |nopp=y |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=92Iz5JSFMGwC&pg=PA55 |accessdate=6 November 2019 |language=en}}
The earliest attested version of the story is from June 1807, in ''Anthologia'', a collection of jokes and humorous pieces copied by "W.T." of [[Inner Temple]] from unnamed previous publications.<ref>{{cite web |last=Harper |first=Douglas |title=kilkenny |url=https://www.etymonline.com/word/kilkenny |website=Online Etymology Dictionary |access-date=6 November 2019}}; {{cite book |last=Thoreau |first=Henry David |author-link=Henry David Thoreau |editor-last=Gillyboeuf |editor-first=Thierry |title=Histoire de moi-même |date=2017 |publisher=Le Passeur |isbn=978-2-36890-553-1 |page=fn.113 |no-pp=y |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=oRg4DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT122 |access-date=30 November 2019 |language=fr}}</ref><ref name="Anthologia1807"/> [[Steven Connor]] characterises the story as an [[Irish bull]].<ref name="Connor2017">{{cite conference |last=Connor |first=Steven |title=Ludicrous Inbodiment |conference=Embodiment and Emancipation |url=http://stevenconnor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/inbodiment.pdf |date=7 April 2017 |location=Helsinki Collegium for Advanced Studies, [[University of Helsinki]]}}</ref> Under the heading "Kilkenny Cats" it runs:<ref name="Anthologia1807">{{cite book |chapter=Kilkenny Cats |title=Anthologia: A Collection of Epigrams, Ludicrous Epitaphs, Sonnets, Tales, Miscellaneous Anecdotes, &c. &c., Interspersed with Originals |author=W.T. |date=1807 |publisher=C. Spilsbury |page=Preface and p.55 |no-pp=y |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=92Iz5JSFMGwC&pg=PA55 |access-date=6 November 2019}}</ref>
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:In a company, consisting of naval officers, the discourse happened to turn on the ferocity of small animals; when an Irish gentleman present stated his opinion to be, that a Kilkenny cat, of all animals, was the most ferocious; and added, "I can prove my assertion, by a fact within my own knowledge:— I once," said he, "saw two of these animals fighting in a [[lumber yard|timber yard]], and willing to see the result of a long battle, I drove them into a deep [[sawpit]], and placing some boards over the mouth, left them to their amusement. Next morning I went to see the conclusion of the fight, and what d'ye think I saw?"– "One of the cats dead, probably," —replied one of the company.— "No by Ja—s!{{#tag:ref|"by Ja—s" is a censored version of "by Jasus", itself a [[pronunciation respelling]] of "by Jesus" in [[Hiberno-English]].|group="n"}} there was nothing left in the pit, but the two tails and a bit of flue!{{#tag:ref|"[[wikt:en:flue|flue]]" = "Light down, such as rises from cotton, fur, etc.; very fine lint or hair".<ref>{{cite web |title=Flue |url=http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/flue |website=Webster's 1913 Dictionary}}</ref>|group="n"}}"
:In a company, consisting of naval officers, the discourse happened to turn on the ferocity of small animals; when an Irish gentleman present stated his opinion to be, that a Kilkenny cat, of all animals, was the most ferocious; and added, "I can prove my assertion, by a fact within my own knowledge:— I once," said he, "saw two of these animals fighting in a [[lumber yard|timber yard]], and willing to see the result of a long battle, I drove them into a deep [[sawpit]], and placing some boards over the mouth, left them to their amusement. Next morning I went to see the conclusion of the fight, and what d'ye think I saw?"– "One of the cats dead, probably," —replied one of the company.— "No by Ja—s!{{#tag:ref|"by Ja—s" is a censored version of "by Jasus", itself a [[pronunciation respelling]] of "by Jesus" in [[Hiberno-English]].|group="n"}} there was nothing left in the pit, but the two tails and a bit of flue!{{#tag:ref|"[[wikt:en:flue|flue]]" = "Light down, such as rises from cotton, fur, etc.; very fine lint or hair".<ref>{{cite web |title=Flue |url=http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/flue |website=Webster's 1913 Dictionary}}</ref>|group="n"}}"


The tale was repeated verbatim the next month in ''[[The European Magazine]]'''s review of ''Anthologia'',<ref>{{cite journal |title=[Review] ''Anthologia'' |journal=The European Magazine, and London Review |via=HathiTrust |date=June 1807 |volume=51 |page=461 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101065086660&view=1up&seq=491 |accessdate=6 November 2019 |publisher=J. Fielding |language=en}}</ref> as well as ''[[The Sporting Magazine]]'', also in London,<ref>{{cite journal |title=Kilkenny Cats |journal=Sporting Magazine |date=July 1807 |publisher=Rogerson & Tuxford |page=175 |url=https://books.google.com/books?pg=PA175&id=Z7AaAQAAMAAJ |accessdate=6 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref> and ''[[Walker's Hibernian Magazine]]'' in Dublin.<ref>{{cite journal |title=Kilkenny Cats |journal=Walker's Hibernian Magazine, Or, Compendium of Entertaining Knowledge |date=July 1807 |page=416 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081671947&view=1up&seq=452 |accessdate=6 November 2019 |publisher=R. Gibson |location=Dublin |language=en}}</ref> It reappeared in 1812 in [[Thomas Tegg]]'s ''The Spirit of Irish Wit'',<ref>{{cite book |title=The spirit of Irish wit, or Post-chaise companion |date=1812 |publisher=Thomas Tegg |location=London |page=225 |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=e65bAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA225 |accessdate=28 November 2019 |language=en |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}}</ref> and in the 1813 supplement to [[William Barker Daniel]]'s ''Rural Sports''.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Daniel |first1=William Barker |title=Supplement to the ''Rural Sports'' |date=1813 |publisher=By T. Davidson for B. & R. Crosby |location=London |pages=701–702 |edition=1st, with subscribers' list |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=no0CAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA701 |accessdate=27 November 2019 |language=en |chapter=Hare and Hare-hunting}}</ref>
The tale was repeated verbatim the next month in ''[[The European Magazine]]'''s review of ''Anthologia'',<ref>{{cite journal |title=[Review] ''Anthologia'' |journal=The European Magazine, and London Review |via=HathiTrust |date=June 1807 |volume=51 |page=461 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101065086660&view=1up&seq=491 |access-date=6 November 2019 |publisher=J. Fielding}}</ref> as well as ''[[The Sporting Magazine]]'', also in London,<ref>{{cite journal |title=Kilkenny Cats |journal=Sporting Magazine |date=July 1807 |publisher=Rogerson & Tuxford |page=175 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Z7AaAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA175 |access-date=6 November 2019}}</ref> and ''[[Walker's Hibernian Magazine]]'' in Dublin.<ref>{{cite journal |title=Kilkenny Cats |journal=Walker's Hibernian Magazine, or, Compendium of Entertaining Knowledge |date=July 1807 |page=416 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081671947&view=1up&seq=452 |access-date=6 November 2019 |publisher=R. Gibson |location=Dublin}}</ref> It reappeared in 1812 in [[Thomas Tegg]]'s ''The Spirit of Irish Wit'',<ref>{{cite book |title=The spirit of Irish wit, or Post-chaise companion |date=1812 |publisher=Thomas Tegg |location=London |page=225 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=e65bAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA225 |access-date=28 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}}</ref> and in the 1813 supplement to [[William Barker Daniel]]'s ''Rural Sports''.<ref>{{cite book |last=Daniel |first=William Barker |title=Supplement to the ''Rural Sports'' |date=1813 |publisher=By T. Davidson for B. & R. Crosby |location=London |pages=701–702 |edition=1st, with subscribers' list |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=no0CAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA701 |access-date=27 November 2019 |chapter=Hare and Hare-hunting}}</ref>


The following appears in [[Thomas Gilliland]]'s ''The Trap'', an 1808 satire on the theme of love:<ref>{{cite book |title=The Trap, a Moral, Philosophical, and Satirical Work, delineating the Snares in which Kings, Princes, and their Subjects have been caught since the days of Adam; including Reflections on the Present Causes of Conjugal Infidelity. Dedicated to the Ladies |first=Thomas |last=Gilliland |chapter=Chapter V |date=1808 |location=London |publisher=T. Goddard |oclc=960061346 }}; quoted in {{cite journal |title=Review of ''The Trap'' |journal=The Satirist: Or Monthly Meteor |date=December 1808 |volume=III |location=London |publisher=Samuel Tipper |page=538 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=V-ocAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA538 |accessdate=28 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref>
The following appears in [[Thomas Gilliland]]'s ''The Trap'', an 1808 satire on the theme of love:<ref>{{cite book |title=The Trap, a Moral, Philosophical, and Satirical Work, delineating the Snares in which Kings, Princes, and their Subjects have been caught since the days of Adam; including Reflections on the Present Causes of Conjugal Infidelity. Dedicated to the Ladies |first=Thomas |last=Gilliland |chapter=Chapter V |date=1808 |location=London |publisher=T. Goddard |oclc=960061346}}; quoted in {{cite journal |title=Review of ''The Trap'' |journal=The Satirist: Or Monthly Meteor |date=December 1808 |volume=III |location=London |publisher=Samuel Tipper |page=538 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=V-ocAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA538 |access-date=28 November 2019}}</ref>
:When I was last at Kilkenny, said [[Teague (slur)|Teague]], I saw two big ram-cats fight a duel for love, your honour; and they fought, and fought, till they ate each other up. Devil burn me, if I lie, your honour! I went after them into the gutter! "''Tommy!''" says I, "my dear ''Phely''!" says I, but no Tommy or Phely was there: I found only the ''tips of their tails''.
:When I was last at Kilkenny, said [[taig|Teague]], I saw two big ram-cats fight a duel for love, your honour; and they fought, and fought, till they ate each other up. Devil burn me, if I lie, your honour! I went after them into the gutter! "''Tommy!''" says I, "my dear ''Phely''!" says I, but no Tommy or Phely was there: I found only the ''tips of their tails''.


An 1811 joke book from Boston in the United States included:<ref>{{cite book |title=The Chaplet of Comus; or Feast of Sentiment, and Festival of Wit |date=1811 |location=Boston |page=58 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=chi.088016001&view=1up&seq=62 |accessdate=29 November 2019}}</ref>
An 1811 joke book from Boston in the United States included:<ref>{{cite book |title=The Chaplet of Comus; or Feast of Sentiment, and Festival of Wit |date=1811 |location=Boston |page=58 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=chi.088016001&view=1up&seq=62 |access-date=29 November 2019}}</ref>
:On a gentleman's reading an account of a tiger fight in the [[East Indies]], an Irishman present exclaimed: 'a tiger be hang'd! Why, sir, I once myself saw two Kilkenny cats fight till they devoured each other up, excepting the very tips of their ''two tails''.'
:On a gentleman's reading an account of a tiger fight in the [[East Indies]], an Irishman present exclaimed: 'a tiger be hang'd! Why, sir, I once myself saw two Kilkenny cats fight till they devoured each other up, excepting the very tips of their ''two tails''.'


{{anchor|Biblesocieties}}Another version is alluded to in an 1816 critique of a pamphlet by Andrew O'Callaghan, master of [[Kilkenny College]]:<ref>{{cite book |title=Additional thoughts of a barrister, to those of the Rev. Mr. O'Callaghan, on the dangerous tendency of Bible societies |date=1816 |page=54 |location=Dublin |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=X5YZAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA54 |accessdate=6 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref>
{{anchor|Biblesocieties}}Another version is alluded to in an 1816 critique of a pamphlet by Andrew O'Callaghan, master of [[Kilkenny College]]:<ref>{{cite book |title=Additional thoughts of a barrister, to those of the Rev. Mr. O'Callaghan, on the dangerous tendency of Bible societies |date=1816 |page=54 |location=Dublin |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=X5YZAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA54 |access-date=6 November 2019}}</ref>
:There is a story told in Kilkenny, that several cats had been locked up in a room, for a fortnight together, without food, and, upon opening the door, there was nothing found but the tail of one of them. Surely Mr. O'C. must have been dreaming of this native story, when he made his arguments thus to swallow themselves, after destroying each other—but the tail of one of them remains
:There is a story told in Kilkenny, that several cats had been locked up in a room, for a fortnight together, without food, and, upon opening the door, there was nothing found but the tail of one of them. Surely Mr. O'C. must have been dreaming of this native story, when he made his arguments thus to swallow themselves, after destroying each other—but the tail of one of them remains
Responding to the 1816 critique, [[Rowley Lascelles]], an English antiquarian based in Ireland, denied the existence of such a story, which he saw as a slur on Kilkenny.<ref name="Lascelles1817">{{cite book |last1=Lascelles |first1=Rowley |title=Letters of Yorick; or, A good-humoured remonstrance in favour of the established Church, by a very humble member of it |date=1817 |pages=289–290 |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=5O8CAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA289 |accessdate=6 November 2019 |chapter=A Digression upon the "Additional Thoughts of a Barrister," to those of the Rev. Mr. Callaghan |language=en}}</ref>
Responding to the 1816 critique, [[Rowley Lascelles]], an English antiquarian based in Ireland, denied the existence of such a story, which he saw as a slur on Kilkenny.<ref name="Lascelles1817">{{cite book |last=Lascelles |first=Rowley |title=Letters of Yorick; or, A good-humoured remonstrance in favour of the established Church, by a very humble member of it |date=1817 |pages=289–290 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=5O8CAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA289 |access-date=6 November 2019 |chapter=A Digression upon the "Additional Thoughts of a Barrister," to those of the Rev. Mr. Callaghan}}</ref>


Although in 1835 [[John Neal (writer)|John Neal]] called the story "one of the oldest and most undoubted ''Joe [Miller]''s",<ref name="Neal">{{cite journal |last1=Neal |first1=John |title=Story-Telling |journal=The New-England Magazine |date=January 1835 |volume=VIII |issue=I |pages=1–12: 4–5 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.32000000702961&view=1up&seq=16 |accessdate=13 November 2019}}; reprinted in {{cite journal |last1=Neal |first1=John |last2=Lang |first2=Hans Joachim |last3=Richards |first3=Irving T. |title=Critical Essays and Stories by John Neal. Edited, with an Introduction, by Hans-Joachim Lang. With a Note on the Authorship of "David Whicher" and a Bibliography of John Neal by Irving T. Richards |journal=Jahrbuch für Amerikastudien |jstor=41155013 |date=1962 |volume=7 |pages=204–319: 210–219: 213 |issn=0075-2533}}</ref> the first edition of ''[[Joe Miller's Jests]]'' to include it was in 1836 (verbatim from ''Anthologia'').<ref name="Miller1836">{{cite book |last1=Miller |first1=Joe |title=Joe Miller's jests. With copious additions |date=1836 |publisher=Whittaker |location=London |page=135, No.794 |url=https://books.google.com/?id=9nkBAAAAQAAJ&lpg=PA135&dq=%22Joe%20Miller%22%20kilkenny%20cat&pg=PA135#v=onepage&q&f=false |accessdate=8 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref> [[Theodore Hook]]'s 1837 novel ''Jack Brag'' jocularly sources the story to [Joe] Miller's ''History of Ireland''.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Hook |first1=Theodore Edward |title=Jack Brag |date=1837 |publisher=R. Bentley |volume=III |page=97 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=cJguAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA97 |accessdate=11 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref><ref name="prim1868">{{cite journal |last1=Prim |first1=John G. A. |title=The Kilkenny Cats |journal=The Athenaeum: Journal of Literature, Science, the Fine Arts, Music and the Drama |date=11 January 1868 |issue=2098 |pages=58 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=aJBUAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA58 |accessdate=6 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref>
Although in 1835 [[John Neal (writer)|John Neal]] called the story "one of the oldest and most undoubted ''Joe [Miller]''s",<ref name="Neal">{{cite journal |last=Neal |first=John |author-link=John Neal (writer) |title=Story-Telling |journal=The New-England Magazine |date=January 1835 |volume=VIII |issue=I |pages=1–12: 4–5 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.32000000702961&view=1up&seq=16 |access-date=13 November 2019}}; reprinted in {{cite journal |last1=Neal |first1=John |last2=Lang |first2=Hans Joachim |last3=Richards |first3=Irving T. |title=Critical Essays and Stories by John Neal. Edited, with an Introduction, by Hans-Joachim Lang. With a Note on the Authorship of "David Whicher" and a Bibliography of John Neal by Irving T. Richards |journal=Jahrbuch für Amerikastudien |jstor=41155013 |date=1962 |volume=7 |pages=204–319: 210–219: 213 |issn=0075-2533}}</ref> the first edition of ''[[Joe Miller's Jests]]'' to include it was in 1836 (verbatim from ''Anthologia'').<ref name="Miller1836">{{cite book |last=Miller |first=Joe |title=Joe Miller's jests. With copious additions |date=1836 |publisher=Whittaker |location=London |page=[https://archive.org/details/joemillersjests00mottgoog/page/n149 135], No.794 |url=https://archive.org/details/joemillersjests00mottgoog |quote=Joe Miller kilkenny cat. |access-date=8 November 2019}}</ref> [[Theodore Hook]]'s 1837 novel ''Jack Brag'' jocularly sources the story to [Joe] Miller's ''History of Ireland''.<ref>{{cite book |last=Hook |first=Theodore Edward |title=Jack Brag |date=1837 |publisher=R. Bentley |volume=III |page=97 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=cJguAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA97 |access-date=11 November 2019}}</ref><ref name="prim1868">{{cite journal |last=Prim |first=John G.A. |title=The Kilkenny Cats |journal=The Athenaeum: Journal of Literature, Science, the Fine Arts, Music and the Drama |date=11 January 1868 |issue=2098 |pages=58 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=aJBUAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA58 |access-date=6 November 2019}}</ref>


{{see also|#Derivatives}}
{{see also|#Derivatives}}


===Elsewhere than Kilkenny===
===Elsewhere than Kilkenny===
An 1817 memoir of the Irish wit [[John Philpot Curran]] situates the story in [[Sligo]] rather than Kilkenny, as a [[tall tale]] told by Curran:<ref>{{cite book |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=BQgHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA36 |title=Memoirs of the Legal, Literary, and Political Life of the Late the Right Honourable John Philpot Curran, once Master of the Rolls in Ireland |first=William |last=O'Regan |pages=36–38 |location=London |date=1817 |publisher=James Harper and Richard Milliken }}</ref><ref name="megarry2005">{{cite book |last1=Megarry |first1=Robert |editor-last1=Garner |editor-first1=Bryan A. |title=A New Miscellany-at-Law: Yet Another Diversion for Lawyers and Others |date=2005 |publisher=Bloomsbury Publishing |isbn=978-1-84731-090-3 |page=303 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=q6zbBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA303 |accessdate=3 December 2019 |language=en}}</ref>
An 1817 memoir of the Irish wit [[John Philpot Curran]] situates the story in [[Sligo]] rather than Kilkenny, as a [[tall tale]] told by Curran:<ref>{{cite book |url=https://archive.org/details/memoirslegallit01oregoog |title=Memoirs of the Legal, Literary, and Political Life of the Late the Right Honourable John Philpot Curran, once Master of the Rolls in Ireland |first=William |last=O'Regan |pages=[https://archive.org/details/memoirslegallit01oregoog/page/n58 36]–38 |location=London |date=1817 |publisher=James Harper and Richard Milliken}}</ref><ref name="megarry2005">{{cite book |last=Megarry |first=Robert |editor-last=Garner |editor-first=Bryan A. |title=A New Miscellany-at-Law: Yet Another Diversion for Lawyers and Others |date=2005 |publisher=Bloomsbury Publishing |isbn=978-1-84731-090-3 |page=303 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=q6zbBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA303 |access-date=3 December 2019}}</ref>
:Passing his first summer at [[Cheltenham]]{{#tag:ref|Curran was in Cheltenham in 1810 if not earlier.<ref>{{cite encyclopedia |last1=Hamilton |first1=John Andrew |title=Curran, John Philpot |volume=Volume 13 |url=https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Curran,_John_Philpot_(DNB00) |via=wikisource |encyclopedia=Dictionary of National Biography |date=1888}}</ref> |group="n"}} ... he had resort to a story to draw himself into notice. ... The conversation of the table turning altogether on the stupid, savage, and disgusting amusement of [[cock-fighting]], he was determined to put an end to it,{{#tag:ref|It is unclear whether Curran sought to put an end to the topic of conversation or to cock-fighting in general.|group="n"}} by the incredible story of the Sligo cats.
:Passing his first summer at [[Cheltenham]]{{#tag:ref|Curran was in Cheltenham in 1810 if not earlier.<ref>{{cite encyclopedia |last1=Hamilton |first1=John Andrew |title=Curran, John Philpot |volume=13 |url=https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Curran,_John_Philpot_(DNB00) |via=wikisource |encyclopedia=Dictionary of National Biography |date=1888}}</ref> |group="n"}} ... he had resort to a story to draw himself into notice. ... The conversation of the table turning altogether on the stupid, savage, and disgusting amusement of [[cock-fighting]], he was determined to put an end to it,{{#tag:ref|It is unclear whether Curran sought to put an end to the topic of conversation or to cock-fighting in general.|group="n"}} by the incredible story of the Sligo cats.
::At [a cat-fight meeting in Sligo] three matches were fought on the first day ... and before the third of them was finished (on which bets ran very high), dinner was announced in the inn where the battle was fought. The company agreed ... to lock up the room, leaving the key in trust to Mr. Curran, who protested to God, he never was so shocked, that his head hung heavy on his shoulders, and his heart was sunk within him, on entering with the company into the room, and finding that the cats had actually eaten each other up, save some little bits of tails which were scattered round the room.
::At [a cat-fight meeting in Sligo] three matches were fought on the first day ... and before the third of them was finished (on which bets ran very high), dinner was announced in the inn where the battle was fought. The company agreed ... to lock up the room, leaving the key in trust to Mr. Curran, who protested to God, he never was so shocked, that his head hung heavy on his shoulders, and his heart was sunk within him, on entering with the company into the room, and finding that the cats had actually eaten each other up, save some little bits of tails which were scattered round the room.
:The Irish part of the company saw the drift, ridicule, and impossibility of the narrative, and laughed immoderately, while the English part yawned and laughed, seeing others laugh, and sought relief in each other's countenances.
:The Irish part of the company saw the drift, ridicule, and impossibility of the narrative, and laughed immoderately, while the English part yawned and laughed, seeing others laugh, and sought relief in each other's countenances.


In ''Real life in Ireland'', an 1821 [[stage Irish]] novel by [[Pierce Egan]], Captain Grammachree, a retired soldier, tells Brian Boru, a young country squire, of a cat-fight in the neighbourhood of [[Dublin]]:<ref>{{cite book |last1=Egan |first1=Pierce |authorlink=Pierce Egan |title=Real life in Ireland : or, The day and night scenes, rovings, rambles, and sprees, bulls, blunders, bodderation and blarney, of Brian Boru, esq., and his elegant friend Sir Shawn O'Dogherty ; exhibiting a real picture of characters, manners, etc., in high and low life in Dublin and various parts of Ireland, embellished with humorous coloured engravings, from original designs by the most eminent artists |orig-year=1821 |date=1904 |publisher=Methuen |location=London |pages=38–39 |url=https://archive.org/details/reallifeinirelan00londiala/page/38 |accessdate=7 November 2019}}</ref>
In ''Real life in Ireland'', an 1821 [[stage Irish]] novel by [[Pierce Egan]], Captain Grammachree, a retired soldier, tells Brian Boru, a young country squire, of a cat-fight in the neighbourhood of [[Dublin]]:<ref>{{cite book |last1=Egan |first1=Pierce |author-link=Pierce Egan |title=Real life in Ireland : or, The day and night scenes, rovings, rambles, and sprees, bulls, blunders, bodderation and blarney, of Brian Boru, esq., and his elegant friend Sir Shawn O'Dogherty; exhibiting a real picture of characters, manners, etc., in high and low life in Dublin and various parts of Ireland, embellished with humorous coloured engravings, from original designs by the most eminent artists |orig-year=1821 |date=1904 |publisher=Methuen |location=London |pages=[https://archive.org/details/reallifeinirelan00londiala/page/38 38]–39 |url=https://archive.org/details/reallifeinirelan00londiala |access-date=7 November 2019}}</ref>
:'There was hundreds betted, but not a cross won or lost; for by Jasus! they left nothing on the ground but a bunch of hair and two tails!'
:'There was hundreds betted, but not a cross won or lost; for by Jasus! they left nothing on the ground but a bunch of hair and two tails!'
:'What!' said Brian, 'then I suppose the cats ran away?'
:'What!' said Brian, 'then I suppose the cats ran away?'
:'An Irish cat run away!' sneered Grammachree, 'no; never! by the powers of Moll Kelly! they eat one another up!'
:'An Irish cat run away!' sneered Grammachree, 'no; never! by the powers of Moll Kelly! they eat one another up!'


An 1830 "dialogue on [[Popery]]" by one Jacob Stanley summarises "the Travellers tale of the Irish Cat fight", giving no specific location.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Stanley |first1=Jacob |title=Dialogues on Popery |date=1830 |publisher=John Mason |location=London |page=79 |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=mZZJiz7vwAgC&pg=PA79 |accessdate=27 November 2019 |chapter=Transubstantiation}}</ref>
An 1830 "dialogue on [[Popery]]" by one Jacob Stanley summarises "the Travellers tale of the Irish Cat fight", giving no specific location.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Stanley |first1=Jacob |title=Dialogues on Popery |date=1830 |publisher=John Mason |location=London |page=79 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=mZZJiz7vwAgC&pg=PA79 |access-date=27 November 2019 |chapter=Transubstantiation}}</ref>


===The battle of the cats of Ireland===
===The battle of the cats of Ireland===
S. Redmond in 1864 in ''[[Notes and Queries]]'' recounted a tale told to him "more than thirty years" earlier when he was "very young" by "a Kilkenny gentleman", about a battle "some forty years before" [i.e. about 1790] on "a plain near that ancient city":<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Redmond |first1=S. |title=Great Battle of Cats |journal=Notes and Queries |date=13 February 1864 |volume=s3 v5 |issue=111 |pages=133–134 |doi=10.1093/nq/s3-V.111.133d |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=12JLAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA133 |accessdate=22 November 2019}}</ref>
S. Redmond in 1864 in ''[[Notes and Queries]]'' recounted a tale told to him "more than thirty years" earlier when he was "very young" by "a Kilkenny gentleman", about a battle "some forty years before" [i.e. about 1790] on "a plain near that ancient city":<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Redmond |first1=S. |title=Great Battle of Cats |journal=Notes and Queries |date=13 February 1864 |volume=s3 v5 |issue=111 |pages=133–134 |doi=10.1093/nq/s3-V.111.133d |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=12JLAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA133 |access-date=22 November 2019}}</ref>
:One night, in the summer time, all the cats in the city and county of Kilkenny, were absent from their “local habitations; and next morning, the plain alluded to (I regret I have not the name) was found covered with thousands of slain tabbies; and the report was, that almost all the cats in Ireland had joined in the contest; as many of the slain had collars on their necks, which showed that they had collected from all quarters of the island. The cause of the quarrel, however, was not stated; but it seemed to have been a sort of [[Provinces of Ireland|provincial]] faction fight between the cats of [[Ulster]] and [[Leinster]]—probably the quadrupeds took up the quarrels of their masters, as at that period there was very ill feeling between the people of both provinces.
:One night, in the summer time, all the cats in the city and county of Kilkenny, were absent from their "local habitations;" and next morning, the plain alluded to (I regret I have not the name) was found covered with thousands of slain tabbies; and the report was, that almost all the cats in Ireland had joined in the contest; as many of the slain had collars on their necks, which showed that they had collected from all quarters of the island. The cause of the quarrel, however, was not stated; but it seemed to have been a sort of [[Provinces of Ireland|provincial]] faction fight between the cats of [[Ulster]] and [[Leinster]]—probably the quadrupeds took up the quarrels of their masters, as at that period there was very ill feeling between the people of both provinces.


Although Redmond states "This has nothing to do with the story of the two famous Kilkenny cats", the two have occasionally been linked subsequently.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Walsh |first1=William S. |title=A Handy Book of Curious Information |date=1912 |publisher=J. B. Lippincott |page=585 |language=en}}</ref><ref name="quinion"/> A similar story was told in [[Charles Henry Ross]]' 1867 ''Book of Cats'',<ref name="Ross1867">{{cite book |last1=Ross |first1=Charles H. |title=The Book of Cats |date=21 September 2013 |origyear=1867 |publisher=Project Gutenberg |pages=200–202 |url=https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43790/43790-h/43790-h.htm#Page_200 |accessdate=6 November 2019}}</ref> to which Kilkenny antiquarian [[John G. A. Prim]] responded that he had heard such a story told of many places in Ireland, but not of Kilkenny.<ref name="prim1868"/> In 1863, ''[[Once A Week (magazine)|Once A Week]]'' had a story of a similar battle in [[Yorkshire]].<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Swayne |first1=George Carless |title=The Battle of the Cats |journal=Once a Week |date=Sep 5, 1863 |volume=9 |issue=219 |pages=302–308 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081666855&view=1up&seq=312 |accessdate=13 November 2019 |location=London |language=en}}</ref> Folklorist [[John O'Hanlon (writer)|John O'Hanlon]] in 1898 published a version from John Kearns of [[Irishtown, Dublin]] which situated the battle on Scald Hill in [[Sandymount]], the future site of Star of the Sea Catholic Church, witnessed by curate Father Corrigan.<ref>{{cite book |last1=O'Hanlon |first1=John |title=Irish local legends |date=1896 |publisher=Duffy |location=Dublin |pages=100–104 |chapterurl=https://archive.org/details/irishlocallegend00ohan/page/100 |accessdate=12 November 2019 |chapter=XXVI: The Battle of the Cats}}</ref> In the 1930s, the [[Irish Folklore Commission]] noted a [[seanchaí]] from [[Rossinver]], County Leitrim tell of a cat battle in Locan Dhee near [[Kinlough]] on New Year's Day 1855.<ref>{{cite web |last1=Hughes |first1=Michael G. |last2=Mc Cabe |first2=Barney |title=Rossinver NS material |url=https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4602729/4599029 |website=dúchas.ie |accessdate=13 November 2019 |pages=275–282 |language=en}}</ref>
Although Redmond states "This has nothing to do with the story of the two famous Kilkenny cats", the two have occasionally been linked subsequently.<ref>{{cite book |last=Walsh |first=William S. |title=A Handy Book of Curious Information |date=1912 |publisher=J. B. Lippincott |page=585}}</ref><ref name="quinion"/> A similar story was told in [[Charles Henry Ross]]' 1867 ''Book of Cats'',<ref name="Ross1867">{{cite book |last=Ross |first=Charles H. |title=The Book of Cats |date=21 September 2013 |orig-year=1867 |publisher=Project Gutenberg |pages=200–202 |url=https://www.gutenberg.org/files/43790/43790-h/43790-h.htm#Page_200 |access-date=6 November 2019}}</ref> to which Kilkenny antiquarian [[John G. A. Prim]] responded that he had heard such a story told of many places in Ireland, but not of Kilkenny.<ref name="prim1868"/> In 1863, ''[[Once A Week (magazine)|Once A Week]]'' had a story of a similar battle in [[Yorkshire]].<ref>{{cite journal |last=Swayne |first=George Carless |title=The Battle of the Cats |journal=Once a Week |date=5 September 1863 |volume=9 |issue=219 |pages=302–308 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081666855&view=1up&seq=312 |access-date=13 November 2019 |location=London}}</ref> Folklorist [[John O'Hanlon (writer)|John O'Hanlon]] in 1898 published a version from John Kearns of [[Irishtown, Dublin]] which situated the battle on Scald Hill in [[Sandymount]], the future site of Star of the Sea Catholic Church, witnessed by curate Father Corrigan.<ref>{{cite book |last1=O'Hanlon |first1=John |title=Irish local legends |date=1896 |publisher=Duffy |location=Dublin |pages=100–104 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/irishlocallegend00ohan/page/100 |access-date=12 November 2019 |chapter=XXVI: The Battle of the Cats}}</ref> In the 1930s, the [[Irish Folklore Commission]] noted a [[seanchaí]] from [[Rossinver]], County Leitrim, tell of a cat battle in Locan Dhee near [[Kinlough]] on New Year's Day 1855.<ref>{{cite web |last1=Hughes |first1=Michael G. |last2=Mc Cabe |first2=Barney |title=Rossinver NS material |url=https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4602729/4599029 |website=dúchas.ie |access-date=13 November 2019 |pages=275–282}}</ref>


==Use as a simile==
==Use as a simile==
[[File:The Kilkenny Cats or Old and Young Ireland coming to the scratch Punch 1846-08-08 v11 p57.png|thumb|'The Kilkenny Cats; or, Old and [[Young Ireland]] "coming to the scratch."' (''[[Punch (magazine)|Punch]]'', 1846) — caricature of [[William Smith O'Brien]] and [[Daniel O'Connell]].]]
[[File:The Kilkenny Cats or Old and Young Ireland coming to the scratch Punch 1846-08-08 v11 p57.png|thumb|'The Kilkenny Cats; or, Old and [[Young Ireland]] "coming to the scratch."' (''[[Punch (magazine)|Punch]]'', 1846) — caricature of [[William Smith O'Brien]] and [[Daniel O'Connell]].]]
The story was sufficiently well known in the 19th century to be used frequently as a [[simile]] for "combatants who fight until they annihilate each other";<ref name="PoeHUP">{{cite book |last1=Poe |first1=Edgar Allan |work=The Annotated Poe |date=2015 |publisher=Harvard University Press |isbn=9780674055292 |page=142, note 19 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=2uKcDQAAQBAJ&pg=PA142 |title=Why the Little Frenchman wears his Arm in a Sling |accessdate=11 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |editor-last1=Craigie |editor-first1=W. A. |location=Oxford |title=A new English dictionary on historical principles : founded mainly on the materials collected by the Philological Society: Introduction, Supplement, and Bibliography |date=1933 |publisher=Oxford Clarendon Press |page=533 |chapter="Kilkenny" |chapterurl=https://archive.org/details/newenglishdictio00murruoft/page/533 |accessdate=13 November 2019}}</ref> to "fight like [the] Kilkenny cats" means "to engage in a mutually destructive struggle".<ref>{{cite book |title=A New English Dictionary On Historical Principles |volume=vol.2: C |date=1888 |page=167 |publisher=Clarendon Press |location=Oxford |first=James |last=Murray |chapterurl=https://archive.org/stream/ANewEnglishDictionaryOnHistoricalPrinciples.10VolumesWithSupplement/02.NEDHP.C.Oxford.Murray.1888..#page/n166 |accessdate=6 November 2019 |language=English |chapter='''cat''' ''sb.<sup>1</sup>'' sense 13 f.}}</ref> Early instances include: (from 1814) an account in ''[[Niles' Register]]'' of the loss of [[USS Wasp (1814)|USS ''Wasp'']] after [[Sinking of HMS Avon|sinking HMS ''Avon'']];<ref>{{cite news |title=Wasp and Avon — From a London Paper |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=wVA8AAAAIAAJ&vq=kilkenny&pg=PA216#v=onepage&q&f=false |accessdate=20 November 2019 |work=Niles' Weekly Register |date=10 December 1814 |page=216 |language=en |quote=The account of the battle between the two "Kilkenny cats," in which they fought until they eat up every thing but the tips of each other's tail, may be regarded a pretty ''moderate'' story when such a one as the following is gravely inserted. }}</ref> (from 1816) the critique of Andrew O'Callaghan [[#Biblesocieties|mentioned earlier]]; a letter from the [[Charles Montagu-Scott, 4th Duke of Buccleuch|4th Duke of Buccleuch]] to [[Walter Scott]] comparing [[Lord Byron]]'s poem "[[Darkness (poem)|Darkness]]" to the story;<ref>{{cite book |last1=Buccleuch |first1=Charles Montagu-Scott, 4th Duke of |title=The private letter-books of Sir Walter Scott; selections from the Abbotsford manuscripts |editor-first=Wilfred |editor-last=Partington |date=1930 |publisher=Frederick A. Stokes |location=New York |chapterurl=https://archive.org/details/privateletterboo0000scot/page/286 |page=286 |chapter-url-access=registration |quote=The Poem on Darkness is a mighty strange one. ... I was vastly amused with the two surviving gentlemen who stare at one another till they drop down dead. I think it beats the story of the Kilkenny Cats |via=Internet Archive |accessdate=20 November 2019 |chapter=Decr. 16th, 1816.}}</ref> and a riposte to disagreeing literary critics:<ref>{{cite book |title=An Address to that Quarterly Reviewer who Touched Upon Mr. Leigh Hunt's "Story of Rimini" |date=1816 |publisher=R. Jennings |page=23 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=4EwUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA23 |accessdate=10 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref>
The story was sufficiently well known in the 19th century to be used frequently as a [[simile]] for "combatants who fight until they annihilate each other";<ref name="PoeHUP">{{cite book |last=Poe |first=Edgar Allan |work=The Annotated Poe |date=2015 |publisher=Harvard University Press |isbn=9780674055292 |page=142, note 19 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=2uKcDQAAQBAJ&pg=PA142 |title=Why the Little Frenchman wears his Arm in a Sling |access-date=11 November 2019}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |editor-last=Craigie |editor-first=W.A. |location=Oxford |title=A new English dictionary on historical principles : founded mainly on the materials collected by the Philological Society : Introduction, Supplement, and Bibliography |date=1933 |publisher=Oxford Clarendon Press |page=533 |chapter="Kilkenny" |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/newenglishdictio00murruoft/page/533 |access-date=13 November 2019}}</ref> to "fight like [the] Kilkenny cats" means "to engage in a mutually destructive struggle".<ref>{{cite book |last=Murray |first=James |title=A New English Dictionary On Historical Principles |chapter='''cat''' ''sb.<sup>1</sup>'' sense 13 f. |chapter-url=https://archive.org/stream/ANewEnglishDictionaryOnHistoricalPrinciples.10VolumesWithSupplement/02.NEDHP.C.Oxford.Murray.1888..#page/n166 |publisher=Clarendon Press |location=Oxford |volume=2: C |date=1888 |page=167 |access-date=6 November 2019}}</ref> Early instances include: (from 1814) an account in ''[[Niles' Register]]'' of the loss of [[USS Wasp (1814)|USS ''Wasp'']] after [[Sinking of HMS Avon|sinking HMS ''Avon'']];<ref>{{cite news |title=Wasp and Avon — From a London Paper |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=wVA8AAAAIAAJ&q=kilkenny&pg=PA216 |access-date=20 November 2019 |work=Niles' Weekly Register |date=10 December 1814 |page=216 |quote=The account of the battle between the two "Kilkenny cats," in which they fought until they eat up every thing but the tips of each other's tail, may be regarded a pretty ''moderate'' story when such a one as the following is gravely inserted.}}</ref> (from 1816) the critique of Andrew O'Callaghan [[#Biblesocieties|mentioned earlier]]; a letter from the [[Charles Montagu-Scott, 4th Duke of Buccleuch|4th Duke of Buccleuch]] to [[Walter Scott]] comparing [[Lord Byron]]'s poem "[[Darkness (poem)|Darkness]]" to the story;<ref>{{cite book |last=Buccleuch |first=Charles Montagu-Scott, 4th Duke of |author-link=Charles Montagu-Scott, 4th Duke of Buccleuch |title=The private letter-books of Sir Walter Scott; selections from the Abbotsford manuscripts |editor-first=Wilfred |editor-last=Partington |date=1930 |publisher=Frederick A. Stokes |location=New York |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/privateletterboo0000scot/page/286 |page=286 |chapter-url-access=registration |quote=The Poem on Darkness is a mighty strange one. ... I was vastly amused with the two surviving gentlemen who stare at one another till they drop down dead. I think it beats the story of the Kilkenny Cats |via=Internet Archive |access-date=20 November 2019 |chapter=Decr. 16th, 1816.}}</ref> and a riposte to disagreeing literary critics:<ref>{{cite book |title=An Address to that Quarterly Reviewer who Touched Upon Mr. Leigh Hunt's "Story of Rimini" |date=1816 |publisher=R. Jennings |page=23 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=4EwUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA23 |access-date=10 November 2019}}</ref>
:Indeed, so mortal is your reciprocal hostility, that your victims may, with [[Mercutio]], form the reasonable expectation, that, being, 'two such, we shall have none shortly, for one will kill the other;'<ref>{{cite web |last1=Shakespeare |first1=William |title=Romeo and Juliet, Act III, Scene 1 |url=http://www.opensourceshakespeare.org/views/plays/play_view.php?WorkID=romeojuliet&Act=3&Scene=1&Scope=scene&LineHighlight=1513#1513 |website=[[Open Source Shakespeare]] |accessdate=10 November 2019 |quote=Nay, an there were two such, we should have none / shortly, for one would kill the other. }}</ref> and like the celebrated Kilkenny cats, leave no other vestige to designate the tribe of ''ferae naturae'' to which you belong, than an odd tooth or a claw!
:Indeed, so mortal is your reciprocal hostility, that your victims may, with [[Mercutio]], form the reasonable expectation, that, being, 'two such, we shall have none shortly, for one will kill the other;'<ref>{{cite web |last=Shakespeare |first=William |title=Romeo and Juliet, Act III, Scene 1 |url=http://www.opensourceshakespeare.org/views/plays/play_view.php?WorkID=romeojuliet&Act=3&Scene=1&Scope=scene&LineHighlight=1513#1513 |website=[[Open Source Shakespeare]] |access-date=10 November 2019 |quote=Nay, an there were two such, we should have none / shortly, for one would kill the other.}}</ref> and like the celebrated Kilkenny cats, leave no other vestige to designate the tribe of ''ferae naturae'' to which you belong, than an odd tooth or a claw!
A similar [[metaphor]] is Spanish {{lang|es|comérse únos a ótros}} defined in a 1740 dictionary as "to eat up one another; to be always quarrelling".<ref>{{cite book |last1=Pineda |first1=Pedro |title=New Dictionary, Spanish and English and English and Spanish |date=1740 |publisher=F. Gyles; T. Woodward; T. Cox & J. Clarke; A. Millar; and P. Vailllant |location=London |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=9z3WrCXSPk4C&pg=PP410 |accessdate=8 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref>


One context for the simile was advocating [[isolationism]], allowing one's enemies to defeat each other, or [[divide and rule|divide and conquer]] policy. A report in ''Niles' Register'' of [[History of the Catholic Church in Spain|Spanish church]] opposition to the 1817 tax reform of {{ill|Martín de Garay|es}} wished 'the fate of the “Kilkenny cats"' on "[[Ferdinand VII of Spain|Ferdinand]] and his priests".<ref>{{cite journal |title=Foreign articles |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044106523707&view=plaintext&seq=26 |accessdate=29 November 2019 |journal=Niles' Weekly Reister |volume=13 [ns 1] |issue=1 |date=30 August 1817 |page=12 |language=en}}</ref> Similarly [[Charles Napier (Royal Navy officer)|Charles Napier]] in 1823 hoped "the French and Spaniards [would] war like Kilkenny cats";<ref>{{cite book |last1=Napier |first1=William Francis Patrick |title=The Life and Opinions of General Sir Charles James Napier, G.C.B. |date=1857 |location=London |publisher=John Murray |isbn=9781108027205 |page=329 |volume=I |url=https://archive.org/details/lifeopinionsofge01napiuoft/page/329 |accessdate=11 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref> likewise ''[[Figaro in London]]'' in 1832 urging British neutrality after the [[Ten Days' Campaign]]<ref>{{cite journal |title=John Bull and the Dutchman |journal=Figaro in London |date=24 November 1832 |volume=1 |issue=51 |page=201 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=g1tFAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA201 |accessdate=10 November 2019 |publisher=W. Strange |location=London |language=en |quote=If [[Leopold I of Belgium|Leopold]] and [[William I of the Netherlands|William]] cannot agree, let them fight it out between themselves, even should they carry on the war till both are reduced to the condition of the far famed Kilkenny cats, one of whom came off with his head, and to the other of whom a tail only remained at the conclusion of the contest.}}</ref> and [[Charles Darwin]] in 1833 in [[Buenos Aires]] during the [[Revolution of the Restorers]].<ref>{{cite web |title=To Caroline Darwin |first=Charles |last=Darwin |url=http://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/DCP-LETT-222.xml |website=Darwin Correspondence Project |accessdate=10 November 2019 |language=en |date=23 October 1833 |quote=I wish the confounded revolution gentlemen would, like Kilkenny Cats, fight till nothing but the tails are left.}}</ref> [[J. S. Pughe]] in a 1904 [[political cartoon]] in ''[[Puck (magazine)|Puck]]'' depicted [[Empire of Japan|Japan]] and [[Russian Empire|Russia]] as Kilkenny cats fighting the [[Russo-Japanese War]] in [[Manchuria]]. Similarly in 1941, after [[Operation Barbarossa|Germany invaded the Soviet Union]], [[Clifford Berryman]] depicted [[Adolf Hitler]] and [[Joseph Stalin]] as "a modern version of the Kilkenny Cats".<ref>{{cite web |last1=Berryman |first1=Clifford Kennedy |title=A modern version of the Kilkenny Cats |url=https://www.loc.gov/item/2016678428/ |publisher=Library of Congress |accessdate=13 November 2019 |date=29 June 1941}}</ref> In ''[[The German Ideology]]'', [[Karl Marx]] and [[Friedrich Engels]] accuse [[Bruno Bauer]] of fomenting antagonism between [[Max Stirner]] and [[Ludwig Feuerbach]] "as the two Kilkenny cats in Ireland".<ref>{{cite book |last1=Marx |first1=Karl |last2=Engels |first2=Friedrich |title=The German Ideology |series=Collected Works |volume=5 |date=2010 |pages=105–107: 106 |chapterurl=https://archive.org/stream/MarxEngelsCollectedWorksVolume10MKarlMarx/Marx%20%26%20Engels%20Collected%20Works%20Volume%205_%20Ma%20-%20Karl%20Marx#page/n128/ |accessdate=11 November 2019 |chapter=I.II.2. Saint Bruno's Views on the Struggle between Feuerbach and Stirner |publisher=Lawrence & Wishart }}</ref>{{#tag:ref|German {{lang|de|wie die beiden Katzen von Kilkenny in Irland}}<ref>{{cite book |last1=Marx |first1=Karl |last2=Engels |first2=Friedrich |title=Karl Marx: Die deutsche Ideologie: Kritik der neuesten deutschen Philosophie in ihren Repräsentanten Feuerbach, B. Bauer und Stirner und des deutschen Sozialismus in seinen verschiedenen Propheten |date=2017 |publisher=e-artnow |isbn=9788027204342 |page=51 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=enxFDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT51 |accessdate=18 November 2019 |language=de}}</ref>|group="n"}}
One context for the simile was advocating [[isolationism]], allowing one's enemies to defeat each other, or a [[divide-and-conquer]] policy. A report in ''Niles' Register'' of [[History of the Catholic Church in Spain|Spanish church]] opposition to the 1817 tax reform of {{ill|Martín de Garay|es}} wished 'the fate of the "Kilkenny cats"' on "[[Ferdinand VII of Spain|Ferdinand]] and his priests".<ref>{{cite journal |title=Foreign articles |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044106523707&view=plaintext&seq=26 |access-date=29 November 2019 |journal=Niles' Weekly Reister |volume=13 [ns 1] |issue=1 |page=12 |date=30 August 1817}}</ref> Similarly [[Charles Napier (Royal Navy officer)|Charles Napier]] in 1823 hoped "the French and Spaniards [would] war like Kilkenny cats";<ref>{{cite book |last=Napier |first=William Francis Patrick |title=The Life and Opinions of General Sir Charles James Napier, G.C.B. |date=1857 |location=London |publisher=[[John Murray (publishing house)|John Murray]] |isbn=9781108027205 |page=[https://archive.org/details/lifeopinionsofge01napiuoft/page/329 329] |volume=I |url=https://archive.org/details/lifeopinionsofge01napiuoft |access-date=11 November 2019}}</ref> likewise ''[[Figaro in London]]'' in 1832 urging British neutrality after the [[Ten Days' Campaign]]<ref>{{cite journal |title=John Bull and the Dutchman |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=g1tFAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA201 |journal=[[Figaro in London]] |publisher=W. Strange |date=24 November 1832 |volume=1 |issue=51 |page=201 |access-date=10 November 2019 |location=London |quote=If [[Leopold I of Belgium|Leopold]] and [[William I of the Netherlands|William]] cannot agree, let them fight it out between themselves, even should they carry on the war till both are reduced to the condition of the far famed Kilkenny cats, one of whom came off with his head, and to the other of whom a tail only remained at the conclusion of the contest.}}</ref> and [[Charles Darwin]] in 1833 in [[Buenos Aires]] during the [[Revolution of the Restorers]].<ref>{{cite web |last=Darwin |first=Charles |author-link=Charles Darwin |title=To Caroline Darwin |url=http://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/DCP-LETT-222.xml |website=Darwin Correspondence Project |access-date=10 November 2019 |date=23 October 1833 |quote=I wish the confounded revolution gentlemen would, like Kilkenny Cats, fight till nothing but the tails are left.}}</ref> [[J. S. Pughe]] in a 1904 [[political cartoon]] in ''[[Puck (magazine)|Puck]]'' depicted [[Empire of Japan|Japan]] and [[Russian Empire|Russia]] as Kilkenny cats fighting the [[Russo-Japanese War]] in [[Manchuria]]. Similarly in 1941, after [[Operation Barbarossa|Germany invaded the Soviet Union]], [[Clifford Berryman]] depicted [[Adolf Hitler]] and [[Joseph Stalin]] as "a modern version of the Kilkenny Cats".<ref>{{cite web |last1=Berryman |first1=Clifford Kennedy |title=A modern version of the Kilkenny Cats |url=https://www.loc.gov/item/2016678428/ |publisher=Library of Congress |access-date=13 November 2019 |date=29 June 1941}}</ref> In ''[[The German Ideology]]'', [[Karl Marx]] and [[Friedrich Engels]] accuse [[Bruno Bauer]] of fomenting antagonism between [[Max Stirner]] and [[Ludwig Feuerbach]] "as the two Kilkenny cats in Ireland".<ref>{{cite book |last1=Marx |first1=Karl |last2=Engels |first2=Friedrich |title=The German Ideology |series=Collected Works |volume=5 |date=2010 |pages=105–107: 106 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/stream/MarxEngelsCollectedWorksVolume10MKarlMarx/Marx%20%26%20Engels%20Collected%20Works%20Volume%205_%20Ma%20-%20Karl%20Marx#page/n128/ |access-date=11 November 2019 |chapter=I.II.2. Saint Bruno's Views on the Struggle between Feuerbach and Stirner |publisher=Lawrence & Wishart}}</ref>{{#tag:ref|German {{lang|de|wie die beiden Katzen von Kilkenny in Irland}}<ref>{{cite book |last1=Marx |first1=Karl |last2=Engels |first2=Friedrich |title=Karl Marx: Die deutsche Ideologie: Kritik der neuesten deutschen Philosophie in ihren Repräsentanten Feuerbach, B. Bauer und Stirner und des deutschen Sozialismus in seinen verschiedenen Propheten |date=2017 |publisher=e-artnow |isbn=9788027204342 |page=51 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=enxFDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT51 |access-date=18 November 2019 |language=de}}</ref>|group="n"}}


[[File:Kilkenny_Cat_Fight_1864.jpg|thumb|"About the Size of it" (''[[Harper's Weekly]]'', 1864) — {{smallcaps|[[Ulysses S. Grant|General Grant]].}} "Well, and what if it ''should'' come to a Kilkenny fight? I guess Our Cat has got the longest tail!"]]
[[File:Kilkenny_Cat_Fight_1864.jpg|thumb|"About the Size of it" (''[[Harper's Weekly]]'', 1864) — {{smallcaps|[[Ulysses S. Grant|General Grant]].}} "Well, and what if it ''should'' come to a Kilkenny fight? I guess Our Cat has got the longest tail!"]]
Conversely, the fable serves as a [[cautionary tale]] for the moral "[[united we stand, divided we fall]]". It was invoked in 1827, in ''[[The Lancet]]'' during disputes around the [[Royal College of Physicians]];<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Wakley |first1=Thomas |authorlink=Thomas Wakley |title=Advertisement |journal=The Lancet |date=6 October 1827 |volume=9 [1] |issue=214 |page=4 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=f7M1AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA4 |publisher=J. Onwhyn |location=London |language=en |doi=10.1016/S0140-6736(02)96957-6}}</ref> and in ''[[The Literary Gazette]]'' of the rivalry between [[Theatre Royal, Drury Lane|Drury Lane]] and [[Royal Opera House|Covent Garden]] theatres.<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Jerdan |first1=William |last2=Workman |first2=William Ring |last3=Morley |first3=John |last4=Goodwin |first4=Charles Wycliffe |last5=Arnold |first5=Frederick |title=Drama |journal=The Literary Gazette |date=16 December 1827 |issue=569 |page=812 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=xR4qhBFpDIIC&pg=RA4-PA812 |location=London |accessdate=6 November 2019 |publisher=H. Colburn |language=en}}</ref> It was a common metaphor before and during the [[American Civil War]], a conflict seen as likely to destroy both sides;<ref name="Maxwell2016">{{cite book |last1=Maxwell |first1=John Gary |title=The Civil War Years in Utah: The Kingdom of God and the Territory That Did Not Fight |date=2016 |publisher=University of Oklahoma Press |isbn=9780806155289 |page=xii |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=IBqNCwAAQBAJ&pg=PR12 |accessdate=7 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref> especially when criticising the [[war of attrition]] strategy of [[Ulysses S. Grant]]. Some extended the metaphor to say the North would win as having the longest tail; this was popularly reported in 1864 as a quip by Grant,<ref name="Maxwell2016"/> but [[George Gordon Meade]] made the same comparison in an 1861 letter to his wife.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Meade |first1=[Gen.] George Gordon |editor-last1=Meade |editor-first1=[Col.] George |editor-last2=Meade |editor-first2=George Gordon |title=The life and letters of George Gordon Meade, major-general United States army |date=1913 |publisher=Scribner |location=New York |page=230 |volume=1 |chapterurl=https://archive.org/details/lifelettersofge01mead/page/230 |accessdate=11 November 2019 |chapter=To Mrs. George G. Meade: Camp Pierpont, Va., November 24, 1861 |quote=In other words, to use my familiar expression, it was and is a Kilkenny-cat business, in which the North, being the biggest cat and having the largest tail, ought to have the endurance to maintain the contest after the Southern gentleman was all gone.}}</ref> Some [[Mormonism|Mormons]] viewed the Civil War as fulfiling a prophecy by founder [[Joseph Smith]], who said after [[Life of Joseph Smith from 1839 to 1844#Arrest attempt|an 1843 attempt to arrest him]], "The constitution of the United States [[Suspension Clause|declares]] that the privilege of the writ of [[Habeas corpus in the United States|habeas corpus]] shall not be denied. Deny me the writ of habeas corpus, and I will fight with gun, sword, cannon, whirlwind, and thunder, until they are used up like the Kilkenny cats."<ref name="Maxwell2016"/><ref>{{cite book |last1=Smith |first1=Joseph |editor1-last=Roberts |editor1-first=B. H. |title=History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints |volume=Period I Volume 5 |date=1909 |publisher=Deseret News |location=Salt Lake City |page=470 |url=https://archive.org/details/HistoryOfTheChurchOfJesusChristOfLatter-daySaints1902-Volume5_249/page/n513?q=%22until+they+are+used+up+like+the+kilkenny+cats%22 |accessdate=25 November 2019 |language=English}}</ref> [[Donald Dewar]], the [[First Minister of Scotland]], in 1999 denied media talk of a rift with [[John Reid, Baron Reid of Cardowan|John Reid]], the [[Scottish Secretary]], conceding, "I must confess the casual outsider who simply read the headlines might think it was a collection of Kilkenny cats fighting".<ref>{{cite news |last1=Settle |first1=Michael |title=Dewar turfs out tales of Kilkenny cat fights |work=The Herald |date=26 July 1999 |location=Glasgow |page=6}}</ref> In the [[Supreme Court of India]] in December 2018, [[K. K. Venugopal]], the [[Attorney General of India|Attorney General]], justified the government's suspension of [[Alok Verma]] and [[Rakesh Asthana]] from the [[Central Bureau of Investigation]] by saying, "The government was watching with amazement the director and his deputy fight like Kilkenny cats."<ref name="timesofindia">{{cite news |last1=Mahapatra |first1=Dhananjay |title=Stepped in to save CBI from 'Kilkenny cat fight': Centre |work=The Times of India |date=6 December 2018 |location=New Delhi |page=1}}</ref> Indian media explained the simile in their reports on the case.<ref name="timesofindia" /><ref>{{cite news |last1=Burns |first1=John |title=The tail of Kilkenny's fighting cats puzzles India |work=Sunday Times [Irish edition] |date=16 Dec 2018 |location=London |page=24}}</ref>
Conversely, the fable serves as a [[cautionary tale]] for the moral "[[united we stand, divided we fall]]". It was invoked in 1827, in ''[[The Lancet]]'' during disputes around the [[Royal College of Physicians]];<ref>{{cite journal |last=Wakley |first=Thomas |author-link=Thomas Wakley |title=Advertisement |journal=The Lancet |date=6 October 1827 |volume=9 [1] |issue=214 |page=4 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=f7M1AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA4 |publisher=J. Onwhyn |location=London |doi=10.1016/S0140-6736(02)96957-6}}</ref> and in ''[[The Literary Gazette]]'' of the rivalry between [[Theatre Royal, Drury Lane|Drury Lane]] and [[Royal Opera House|Covent Garden]] theatres.<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Jerdan |first1=William |last2=Workman |first2=William Ring |last3=Morley |first3=John |last4=Goodwin |first4=Charles Wycliffe |last5=Arnold |first5=Frederick |title=Drama |journal=The Literary Gazette |date=16 December 1827 |issue=569 |page=812 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=xR4qhBFpDIIC&pg=RA4-PA812 |location=London |access-date=6 November 2019 |publisher=H. Colburn}}</ref> It was a common metaphor before and during the [[American Civil War]], a conflict seen as likely to destroy both sides;<ref name="Maxwell2016">{{cite book |last=Maxwell |first=John Gary |title=The Civil War Years in Utah: The Kingdom of God and the Territory That Did Not Fight |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=IBqNCwAAQBAJ&pg=PR12 |publisher=University of Oklahoma Press |date=2016 |page=xii |access-date=7 November 2019 |isbn=9780806155289}}</ref> especially when criticising the [[war of attrition]] strategy of [[Ulysses S. Grant]]. Some extended the metaphor to say the North would win as having the longest tail; this was popularly reported in 1864 as a quip by Grant,<ref name="Maxwell2016"/> but [[George Gordon Meade]] made the same comparison in an 1861 letter to his wife.<ref>{{cite book |last=Meade |first=[Gen.] George Gordon |author-link=George Meade |editor-last1=Meade |editor-first1=[Col.] George |editor-last2=Meade |editor-first2=George Gordon |title=The life and letters of George Gordon Meade, major-general United States army |date=1913 |publisher=Scribner |location=New York |page=230 |volume=1 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/lifelettersofge01mead/page/230 |access-date=11 November 2019 |chapter=To Mrs. George G. Meade: Camp Pierpont, Va., November 24, 1861 |quote=In other words, to use my familiar expression, it was and is a Kilkenny-cat business, in which the North, being the biggest cat and having the largest tail, ought to have the endurance to maintain the contest after the Southern gentleman was all gone.}}</ref> Some [[Mormons]] viewed the Civil War as fulfilling a prophecy by founder [[Joseph Smith]], who said after [[Life of Joseph Smith from 1839 to 1844#Arrest attempt|an 1843 attempt to arrest him]], "The constitution of the United States [[Suspension Clause|declares]] that the privilege of the writ of [[Habeas corpus in the United States|habeas corpus]] shall not be denied. Deny me the writ of habeas corpus, and I will fight with gun, sword, cannon, whirlwind, and thunder, until they are used up like the Kilkenny cats."<ref name="Maxwell2016"/><ref>{{cite book |last=Smith |first=Joseph |author-link=Joseph Smith |editor-last=Roberts |editor-first=B.H. |title=History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints |volume=Period I Volume 5 |date=1909 |publisher=Deseret News |location=Salt Lake City, UT |page=[https://archive.org/details/HistoryOfTheChurchOfJesusChristOfLatter-daySaints1902-Volume5_249/page/n513 470] |url=https://archive.org/details/HistoryOfTheChurchOfJesusChristOfLatter-daySaints1902-Volume5_249 |access-date=25 November 2019}}</ref> [[Donald Dewar]], the then [[First Minister of Scotland]], in 1999 denied media talk of a rift with [[John Reid, Baron Reid of Cardowan|John Reid]], the [[Scottish Secretary]], conceding, "I must confess the casual outsider who simply read the headlines might think it was a collection of Kilkenny cats fighting".<ref>{{cite news |last=Settle |first=Michael |title=Dewar turfs out tales of Kilkenny cat fights |work=The Herald |date=26 July 1999 |location=Glasgow |page=6}}</ref> In the [[Supreme Court of India]] in December 2018, [[K. K. Venugopal]], the [[Attorney General of India|Attorney General]], justified the government's suspension of [[Alok Verma]] and [[Rakesh Asthana]] from the [[Central Bureau of Investigation]] by saying, "The government was watching with amazement the director and his deputy fight like Kilkenny cats."<ref name="timesofindia">{{cite news |last=Mahapatra |first=Dhananjay |title=Stepped in to save CBI from 'Kilkenny cat fight': Centre |work=The Times of India |date=6 December 2018 |location=New Delhi |page=1}}</ref> Indian media explained the simile in their reports on the case.<ref name="timesofindia" /><ref>{{cite news |last=Burns |first=John |title=The tail of Kilkenny's fighting cats puzzles India |work=Sunday Times [Irish edition] |date=16 Dec 2018 |location=London |page=24}}</ref>


It was invoked in 1837 for [[Gridlock (politics)|political gridlock]] in divided legislatures: by [[Thomas Corwin]] in the [[24th Congress]],<ref>{{cite book |last=Corwin |first=Thomas |author-link=Thomas Corwin |volume=XIII |location=Washington, DC |title=Debates in Congress |date=12 January 1837 |publisher=Gales & Seaton |page=c.1375 |no-pp=y |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=CiwWAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1375 |access-date=13 November 2019}}</ref> and by [[Thomas Carlyle]] in ''[[The French Revolution: A History]]''.<ref>{{cite book |last=Carlyle |first=Thomas |author-link=Thomas Carlyle |title=The French Revolution |chapter=Chapter 1.6.I. Make the Constitution. |chapter-url=http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1301/1301-h/1301-h.htm#link2HCH0035 |publisher=Project Gutenberg |orig-year=1837 |date=2 November 2019 |access-date=10 November 2019}}</ref> [[James Grant (newspaper editor)|James Grant]] (1837, 1843) and S. Gerlis (2001) draw analogy with litigants who are both ruined by legal costs.<ref>{{cite book |last=Grant |first=James |author-link=James Grant (newspaper editor) |title=The bench and the bar |date=1837 |publisher=Henry Colburn |location=London |volume=I |page=42 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=pKcbAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA42 |access-date=13 November 2019}}; {{cite book |last=Grant |first=James |title=Joseph Jenkins, Or, Leaves from the Life of a Literary Man |date=1843 |publisher=Saunders and Otley |volume=II |pages=151–153 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=jKPJTj22GtgC&pg=PA152 |access-date=13 November 2019 |chapter=The Hatters of High Holborn}}; {{cite journal |last=Gerlis |first=S |title=Talking Shop: Costs and the Kilkenny Cats |journal=Family Law |location=Bristol |publisher=Jordans |date=2001 |number=31 |pages=699–700 |issn=0014-7281}}</ref> It was often used in accounts of factionalism within [[Irish nationalist]] politics,<ref>{{cite book |last=Foster |first=R.F. |title=Paddy and Mr. Punch: Connections in Irish and English History |publisher=Penguin |date=1995 |page=186 |isbn=978-0-14-017170-9}}</ref> such as between the [[Repeal Association]] and [[Young Ireland]] in the 1840s,<ref>{{cite web |title=The Kilkenny Cats; or, old and young Ireland "Coming to the Scratch." |url=http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000171325 |website=catalogue.nli.ie |access-date=6 November 2019 |date=8 August 1846}}; {{cite book |last=Spielmann |first=Marion Harry |title=The history of "Punch" |date=1895 |publisher=Cassell |location=London |page=[https://archive.org/details/gri_33125007799568/page/n126 105] |url=https://archive.org/details/gri_33125007799568}}</ref> [[Isaac Butt]] against [[Joseph Biggar]] in the 1870s,<ref>{{cite journal |title=Kilkenny Cats |journal=Punch |date=26 October 1878 |volume=75 |page=192 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=jGZPAQAAMAAJ&q=cannibal%20cat%20kilkenny&pg=PA192 |access-date=13 November 2019 |publisher=Punch Publications Limited}}</ref> or the [[Parnell split]] of the 1890s.<ref>{{cite book |last=Baden-Powell |first=George |title=The saving of Ireland: industrial, financial, political |date=1898 |publisher=W. Blackwood |location=Edinburgh |page=50 |url=http://www.archive.org/details/savingofirelandi00bade#page/50 |access-date=11 November 2019}}</ref> [[Francis Jacox]] invoked the Kilkenny cats in 1865 when enumerating "Certain Eligible Cases of Mutual Extermination" in ''[[Bentley's Miscellany]]''.<ref>{{cite journal |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=fyJLAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA484 |title=About Certain Eligible Cases of Mutual Extermination; a Cue from Shak<!-- sic-->speare |first=Francis |last=Jacox |journal=Bentley's Miscellany |volume=57 |location=London |date=1865 |publisher=Chapman and Hall |access-date=3 December 2019 |pages=484–491}}</ref> [[Prosper Mérimée]] alluded to {{lang|fr|les chats de Kilkenny}} in 1860s correspondence,{{#tag:ref|Writing to [[Anthony Panizzi]], in relation to the battles of [[Battle of Fredericksburg|Fredericksburg]] (1863)<ref>{{cite book |last=Mérimée |first=Prosper |author-link=Prosper Mérimée |editor-last=Fagan |editor-first=Louis |title=Lettres à M. Panizzi, 1850-1870 |date=1881 |publisher=Calmann-Lévy |location=Paris |page=301 |volume=1 |edition=3rd |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/lettresmpanizz01mruoft/page/301 |chapter=CXVIII}}</ref> and [[Battle of Sadowa|Sadowa]] (1866).<ref>{{cite book |last=Mérimée |first=Prosper |editor-last=Fagan |editor-first=Louis |title=Lettres à M. Panizzi, 1850-1870 |date=1881 |publisher=Calmann-Lévy |location=Paris |page=207 |volume=2 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/lettresmpanizz02mruoft/page/207 |chapter=LXXXVI}}</ref><ref name="icc1904"/>|group="n"}} prompting a query to ''[[L'Intermédiaire des chercheurs et curieux]]'' in 1904,<ref name="icc1904">{{cite journal |author=M. Tx. |editor-last=de Rash |editor-first=Carle |title=Les chats de Kilkenny |url=https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k734080/f197.image.r=%22chats%20de%20kilkenny%22?rk=21459;2 |journal=L'Intermédiaire des Chercheurs et Curieux |location=Paris |volume=L |issue=1052 |page=385 |date=20 September 1904 |access-date=30 November 2019 |language=fr |via=[[Gallica]]}}</ref> the answer to which was prefaced, "Those of us who ever had an English [[governess]] will recall the 'Kilkenny Cats'."<ref name="ICC1054">{{cite journal |author=P.L. |editor-last=de Rash |editor-first=Carle |title=Les chats de Kilkenny |url=https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k734080/f266.image.r=%22chats%20de%20kilkenny%22?rk=21459;2 |journal=L'Intermédiaire des Chercheurs et Curieux |location=Paris |volume=L |issue=1054 |page=525 |date=1<!-- page misprinted as 20 Oct; next pages correctly say 10 Oct-->0 October 1904 |access-date=30 November 2019 |language=fr |via=[[Gallica]]}}</ref> In his diary in 1950, [[Ernest Bevin]], the [[Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (UK)|UK Foreign Secretary]], described the [[Special Relationship|UK's Cold-War security links to the US]] as being "tied to the tail of a Kilkenny cat".<ref>{{cite book |last=Geiger |first=Till |title=Britain and the economic problem of the Cold War: the political economy and the economic impact of the British defence effort, 1945-1955 |date=2017 |publisher=Routledge |isbn=9781315261348 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=hTUrDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA98 |doi=10.4324/9781315261348 |chapter=‘Tied to the tail of a Kilkenny cat'?: The Anglo-American relationship, British rearmament and the political crisis of 1951 |pages=87–120: 98 |orig-year=2004}}</ref>
It was invoked in 1837 for [[Gridlock (politics)|political gridlock]] in divided legislatures: by [[Thomas Corwin]] in the [[24th Congress]],<ref>{{cite book |last=Corwin |first=Thomas |authorlink=Thomas Corwin |volume=XIII |location=Washington, DC |title=Debates in Congress |date=12 January 1837 |publisher=Gales & Seaton |page=c.1375 |nopp=y |url=https://books.google.com/books?pg=PA1375&id=CiwWAAAAYAAJ |accessdate=13 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref> and by [[Thomas Carlyle]] in ''[[The French Revolution: A History]]''.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Carlyle |first1=Thomas |title=The French Revolution |date=2 November 2019 |orig-year=1837 |publisher=Project Gutenberg |chapter-url=http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1301/1301-h/1301-h.htm#link2HCH0035 |accessdate=10 November 2019 |chapter=Chapter 1.6.I. Make the Constitution.}}</ref> [[James Grant (newspaper editor)|James Grant]] (1837, 1843) and S. Gerlis (2001) draw analogy with litigants who are both ruined by legal costs.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Grant |first1=James |title=The bench and the bar |date=1837 |publisher=Henry Colburn |location=London |volume=I |page=42 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=pKcbAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA42 |accessdate=13 November 2019 |language=en}}; {{cite book |authorlink=James Grant (newspaper editor) |last1=Grant |first1=James |title=Joseph Jenkins, Or, Leaves from the Life of a Literary Man |date=1843 |publisher=Saunders and Otley |volume=II |pages=151–153 |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=jKPJTj22GtgC&pg=PA152 |accessdate=13 November 2019 |language=en |chapter=The Hatters of High Holborn}};
{{cite journal |last=Gerlis |first=S |title=Talking Shop: Costs and the Kilkenny Cats |journal=Family Law |location=Bristol |publisher=Jordans |date=2001 |number=31 |pages=699–700 |issn=0014-7281 }}
</ref> It was often used in accounts of factionalism within [[Irish nationalist]] politics,<ref>{{cite book |last1=Foster |first1=R. F. |title=Paddy and Mr. Punch: Connections in Irish and English History |date=1995 |publisher=Penguin |isbn=978-0-14-017170-9 |page=186 |language=en}}</ref> such as between the [[Repeal Association]] and [[Young Ireland]] in the 1840s,<ref>{{cite web |title=The Kilkenny Cats; or, old and young Ireland "Coming to the Scratch." |url=http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000171325 |website=catalogue.nli.ie |accessdate=6 November 2019 |language=English |date=8 August 1846}}; {{cite book |last1=Spielmann |first1=Marion Harry |title=The history of "Punch" |date=1895 |publisher=Cassell |location=London |page=105 |url=https://archive.org/details/gri_33125007799568/page/n105}}</ref> [[Isaac Butt]] against [[Joseph Biggar]] in the 1870s,<ref>{{cite journal |title=Kilkenny Cats |journal=Punch |date=26 October 1878 |volume=75 |page=192 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=jGZPAQAAMAAJ&dq=cannibal%20cat%20kilkenny&pg=PA192 |accessdate=13 November 2019 |publisher=Punch Publications Limited |language=en}}</ref> or the [[Parnell split]] of the 1890s.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Baden-Powell |first1=George |title=The saving of Ireland : industrial, financial, political |date=1898 |publisher=W. Blackwood |location=Edinburgh |page=50 |url=http://www.archive.org/details/savingofirelandi00bade#page/50 |accessdate=11 November 2019}}</ref> [[Francis Jacox]] invoked the Kilkenny cats in 1865 when enumerating "Certain Eligible Cases of Mutual Extermination" in ''[[Bentley's Miscellany]]''.<ref>{{cite journal |url=https://books.google.ie/books?id=fyJLAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA484 |title=About Certain Eligible Cases of Mutual Extermination; a Cue from Shak<!-- sic-->speare |first=Francis |last=Jacox |journal=Bentley's Miscellany |volume=57 |location=London |date=1865 |publisher=Chapman and Hall |accessdate=3 December 2019 |pages=484–491}}</ref> [[Prosper Mérimée]] alluded to {{lang|fr|les chats de Kilkenny}} in 1865–6 correspondence, prompting a query to ''[[L'Intermédiaire des chercheurs et curieux]]'' in 1904,<ref>{{cite journal |author1=M. Tx. |editor1-last=de Rash |editor1-first=Carle |title=Les chats de Kilkenny |journal=L'Intermédiaire des Chercheurs et Curieux |date=20 September 1904 |volume=L |issue=1052 |page=385 |url=https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k734080/f197.image.r=%22chats%20de%20kilkenny%22?rk=21459;2 |via=[[Gallica]] |accessdate=30 November 2019 |location=Paris |language=fr}}</ref> the answer to which was prefaced, "Those of us who ever had an English [[governess]] will recall the 'Kilkenny Cats'."<ref name="ICC1054">{{cite journal |author1=P. L. |editor1-last=de Rash |editor1-first=Carle |title=Les chats de Kilkenny |journal=L'Intermédiaire des Chercheurs et Curieux |date=1<!-- page misprinted as 20 Oct; next pages correctly say 10 Oct-->0 October 1904 |volume=L |issue=1054 |page=525 |url=https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k734080/f266.image.r=%22chats%20de%20kilkenny%22?rk=21459;2 |via=[[Gallica]] |accessdate=30 November 2019 |location=Paris |language=fr}}
</ref> In his diary in 1950, [[Ernest Bevin]], the [[Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs|UK Foreign Secretary]], described the [[Special Relationship|UK's Cold-War security links to the US]] as being "tied to the tail of a Kilkenny cat".<ref>{{cite book |last1=Geiger |first1=Till |title=Britain and the economic problem of the Cold War : the political economy and the economic impact of the British defence effort, 1945-1955 |date=2017 |publisher=Routledge |isbn=9781315261348 |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=hTUrDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA98 |doi=10.4324/9781315261348 |chapter=‘Tied to the tail of a Kilkenny cat'?: The Anglo-American relationship, British rearmament and the political crisis of 1951 |pages=87–120: 98 |orig-year=2004 }}</ref>


A single Kilkenny cat may be invoked to symbolise ferocity or vigour without the implication of mutual destruction.<ref name="Walsh1892"/> In an 1825 humorous verse, [[Anthony Bleecker]] inquiring into the cause of death of a peaceable cat asks, "Did some Kilkenny cat make thee a ghost?"<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Bleecker |first1=Anthony |title=Jeu D'Esprit |journal=Dumfries Monthly Magazine |date=July 1825 |page=77 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=3KG4yjHqRIIC&pg=PA77 |accessdate=6 November 2019 |volume=1 |number=1 |language=en}}</ref> [[John Galt (novelist)|John Galt]] in 1826 refers to "an enormous tiger almost as big as a Kilkenny cat".<ref>{{cite book |last1=Galt |authorlink=John Galt (novelist) |first1=John |title=The Last of the Lairds: Or, The Life and Opinions of Malachi Mailings, Esq. of Auldbiggings |date=1826 |publisher=William Blackwood |location=Edinburgh |page=139 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ZFYJAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA139 |accessdate=7 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref> In an 1840 story by [[Edgar Allan Poe]], "Sir Pathrick O'Grandison, Barronitt, of [[Connacht]]" says he was "mad as a Kilkenny cat" when a rival came to court his beloved.<ref name="PoeHUP"/><ref>{{cite book |last1=Poe |first1=Edgar Allan |editor1-last=Mabbott |editor1-first=Thomas Ollive |editor2-last=Kewer |editor2-first=Eleanor D. |title=Tales and Sketches; Volume 1: 1831–1842 |date=2000 |chapter=Why the Little Frenchman Wears His Hand in a Sling |publisher=University of Illinois Press |isbn=9780252069222 |pages=xxix, 462–471: 468 |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=g33tFaUbpIMC&pg=PA468 |accessdate=7 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref> In [[George Lippard]]'s 1843 satire of Philadelphia publishers, Irishman Phelix Phelligrim exclaims, when his associates are cursing and red-faced with anger, "Its in a fine humor ye are, gentleman! The Kilkenny cats was a mere circumstance to ye!"<ref>{{cite journal |author1="Geoffrey" [George Lippard] |authorlink1=George Lippard |title=The Spermaceti Papers: The Grey Ham in a Pucker |location=Philadelphia |journal=The Citizen Soldier |via=The Early Writings of George Lippard, 1842-43, UCLA |date=26 July 1843 |url=http://lippardarchive.cdh.ucla.edu/series.php?ser=spermaceti#66 |accessdate=15 November 2019}}</ref> Leo Richard Ward in 1939 described someone as "contrary and mean as a Kilkenny cat."<ref>{{cite book |last1=Ward |first1=Leo Richard |title=God in an Irish kitchen |date=1939 |publisher=Sheed & Ward |location=New York |page=32 |language=en}}</ref> In 2009, a [[Children's Court of New South Wales|Children's Court]] [[magistrate]] in [[Sydney]] described a schoolgirl arrested for fighting as a "Kilkenny cat".<ref>{{cite news |title=Schoolgirl fight: 15-year-old charged |url=https://www.smh.com.au/national/schoolgirl-fight-15yearold-charged-20090529-bp6i.html |accessdate=7 November 2019 |work=The Sydney Morning Herald |date=28 May 2009 |language=en}}</ref>
A lone Kilkenny cat may be invoked to symbolise ferocity or vigour without the implication of mutual destruction.<ref name="Walsh1892"/> In an 1825 humorous verse, [[Anthony Bleecker]], inquiring into the cause of death of a peaceable cat, asks: "Did some Kilkenny cat make thee a ghost?"<ref>{{cite journal |last=Bleecker |first=Anthony |title=Jeu D'Esprit |journal=Dumfries Monthly Magazine |date=July 1825 |page=77 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=3KG4yjHqRIIC&pg=PA77 |access-date=6 November 2019 |volume=1 |number=1}}</ref> [[John Galt (novelist)|John Galt]] in 1826 refers to "an enormous tiger almost as big as a Kilkenny cat".<ref>{{cite book |last=Galt |first=John |author-link=John Galt (novelist) |title=The Last of the Lairds: Or, The Life and Opinions of Malachi Mailings, Esq. of Auldbiggings |date=1826 |publisher=William Blackwood |location=Edinburgh |page=[https://archive.org/details/lastoflairdsorli00galtrich/page/139 139] |url=https://archive.org/details/lastoflairdsorli00galtrich |access-date=7 November 2019}}</ref> In an 1840 story by [[Edgar Allan Poe]], "Sir Pathrick O'Grandison, Barronitt, of [[Connacht]]" says he was "mad as a Kilkenny cat" when a rival came to court his beloved.<ref name="PoeHUP"/><ref>{{cite book |last=Poe |first=Edgar Allan |editor1-last=Mabbott |editor1-first=Thomas Ollive |editor2-last=Kewer |editor2-first=Eleanor D. |title=Tales and Sketches; Volume 1: 1831–1842 |date=2000 |chapter=Why the Little Frenchman Wears His Hand in a Sling |publisher=University of Illinois Press |isbn=9780252069222 |pages=xxix, 462–471: 468 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=g33tFaUbpIMC&pg=PA468 |access-date=7 November 2019}}</ref> In [[George Lippard]]'s 1843 satire of Philadelphia publishers, Irishman Phelix Phelligrim exclaims, when his associates are cursing and red-faced with anger, "Its in a fine humor ye are, gentleman! The Kilkenny cats was a mere circumstance to ye!"<ref>{{cite journal |author="Geoffrey" [George Lippard] |author-link=George Lippard |title=The Spermaceti Papers: The Grey Ham in a Pucker |url=http://lippardarchive.cdh.ucla.edu/series.php?ser=spermaceti#66 |location=Philadelphia, PA |journal=The Citizen Soldier |date=26 July 1843 |access-date=15 November 2019 |via=The Early Writings of George Lippard, 1842-43, UCLA}}</ref> Leo Richard Ward in 1939 described someone as "contrary and mean as a Kilkenny cat".<ref>{{cite book |last=Ward |first=Leo Richard |title=God in an Irish kitchen |date=1939 |publisher=Sheed & Ward |location=New York |page=32}}</ref> In 2009, a [[Children's Court of New South Wales|Children's Court]] [[magistrate]] in [[Sydney]] described a schoolgirl arrested for fighting as a "Kilkenny cat".<ref>{{cite news |title=Schoolgirl fight: 15-year-old charged |url=https://www.smh.com.au/national/schoolgirl-fight-15yearold-charged-20090529-bp6i.html |access-date=7 November 2019 |work=[[The Sydney Morning Herald]] |date=28 May 2009}}</ref>


===Reclaimed===
===Reclaimed===
[[GAA county nickname|Irish counties have nicknames]], some long established and in general use, others invented by sports journalists covering inter-county [[Gaelic games]]. The [[Kilkenny GAA|Kilkenny county team]],{{#tag:ref|Kilkenny city is nicknamed "the Marble City" (from [[Kilkenny Marble]])<ref>{{cite book |last1=Hogan |first1=John |title=Kilkenny; the Ancient City of Ossory, the Seat of Its Kings, the See of Its Bishops and the Site of Its Cathedral |date=1884 |publisher=P. M. Egan |page=392 |language=en}}; {{cite book |title=Ireland |date=1996 |publisher=Lonely Planet Publications |isbn=9780864423528 |page=370 |language=en}}</ref>
[[GAA county nickname|Irish counties have nicknames]], some long established and in general use, others invented by sports journalists covering inter-county [[Gaelic games]]. The [[Kilkenny county hurling team|Kilkenny county team]],{{#tag:ref|Kilkenny city is nicknamed "the Marble City" (from [[Kilkenny Marble]])<ref>{{cite book |last=Hogan |first=John |title=Kilkenny; the Ancient City of Ossory, the Seat of Its Kings, the See of Its Bishops and the Site of Its Cathedral |date=1884 |publisher=P. M. Egan |page=392}}; {{cite book |title=Ireland |date=1996 |publisher=Lonely Planet Publications |isbn=9780864423528 |page=[https://archive.org/details/lonelyplanetirel00toms/page/370 370] |url=https://archive.org/details/lonelyplanetirel00toms/page/370}}</ref> and "Ye Faire Citie" (the motto under its coat of arms).<ref>{{cite journal |last=Redmond |first=S. |title=The Irish "Driver"—The Story of Tim O'Hara |journal=Duffy's Fireside Magazine |date=October 1853 |volume=III |issue=36 |page=379 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=7QxLAQAAMAAJ&q=%22faire%20citie%22%20kilkenny&pg=PA379 |access-date=19 November 2019 |publisher=J. Duffy}}; {{cite book |last=Moylan |first=Séamas |title=The Language of Kilkenny: Lexicon, Semantics, Structures |date=1996 |publisher=Geography Publications |isbn=9780906602706 |page=375}}; {{cite news |title=The vandals causing most of Kilkenny's destruction are the speculators and the State, historian says |url=https://www.irishtimes.com/news/the-vandals-causing-most-of-kilkenny-s-destruction-are-the-speculators-and-the-state-historian-says-1.201152 |access-date=19 November 2019 |newspaper=[[The Irish Times]] |date=30 June 1999}}</ref>|group="n"}} which has won more [[All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship]]s than any other county, has been called "the Cats" in newspapers since at least the 1980s.<ref>{{cite book |last=Share |first=Bernard |title=Naming names: who, what, where in Irish nomenclature |date=2001 |publisher=Gill & Macmillan |pages=112, 164}}; {{cite news |title=Kilkenny 5-13 Wexford 3-15 |date=20 June 1983 |page=14 |newspaper=[[Cork Examiner]] |first=Michael |last=Ellard}}; {{cite news |title=Kilkenny power to fine victory |date=10 February 1986 |page=18 |newspaper=Irish Press}}; {{cite book |last=Browne |first=Michael |title=Up the bridge: a history of Clarinbridge, its people and their games |date=1987 |oclc=19510868 |location=Clarinbridge, Co. Galway, Ireland |page=109 |chapter=Mattie Burke |quote=In the 1935 Championship it was Kilkenny's turn again and Mattie Burke's second of three All-Ireland semi-finals against the 'Cats'.}}; {{cite news |title=Cats are purring |date=22 June 1987 |page=10 |newspaper=[[Irish Independent]]}}; {{cite news |title=Late Kilkenny effort tells |date=2 May 1988 |page=10 |newspaper=Irish Independent}}</ref>
and "Ye Faire Citie" (the motto under its coat of arms).<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Redmond |first1=S. |title=The Irish "Driver"—The Story of Tim O'Hara |journal=Duffy's Fireside Magazine |date=October 1853 |volume=III |issue=36 |page=379 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=7QxLAQAAMAAJ&dq=%22faire%20citie%22%20kilkenny&pg=PA379#v=onepage&q&f=false |accessdate=19 November 2019 |publisher=J. Duffy. |language=en}}; {{cite book |last1=Moylan |first1=Séamas |title=The Language of Kilkenny: Lexicon, Semantics, Structures |date=1996 |publisher=Geography Publications |isbn=9780906602706 |page=375 |language=en}}; {{cite news |title=The vandals causing most of Kilkenny's destruction are the speculators and the State, historian says |url=https://www.irishtimes.com/news/the-vandals-causing-most-of-kilkenny-s-destruction-are-the-speculators-and-the-state-historian-says-1.201152 |accessdate=19 November 2019 |work=The Irish Times |date=30 June 1999 |language=en}}</ref>|group="n"}} which has won more [[All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship]]s than any other county, has been called "the Cats" in newspapers since at least the 1980s.<ref>
{{cite book |last1=Share |first1=Bernard |title=Naming names: who, what, where in Irish nomenclature |date=2001 |publisher=Gill & Macmillan |pages=112, 164 |language=en}};
{{cite news |title=Kilkenny 5-13 Wexford 3-15 |date=20 June 1983 |page=14 |newspaper=Cork Examiner |first=Michael |last=Ellard}}
{{cite news |title=Kilkenny power to fine victory |date=10 February 1986 |page=18 |newspaper=Irish Press }};
{{cite book |last1=Browne |first1=Michael |title=Up the bridge: a history of Clarinbridge, its people and their games |date=1987 |oclc=19510868 |location=Clarinbridge |page=109 |language=en |chapter=Mattie Burke |quote=In the 1935 Championship it was Kilkenny's turn again and Mattie Burke's second of three All-Ireland semi-finals against the 'Cats'.}};
{{cite news |title=Cats are purring |date=22 June 1987 |page=10 |newspaper=Irish Independent }};
{{cite news |title=Late Kilkenny effort tells |date=2 May 1988 |page=10 |newspaper=Irish Independent }};
</ref> In 2016 correspondence in the ''[[Irish Daily Mail]]'', one reader said the nickname was not used for the GAA team in the 1960s, while another said it was used in the press since the 1920s and attracted wider currency with the introduction of televised coverage in the 1960s.<ref>{{cite news |last1=Enright |first1=Odhrán |last2=Legge |first2=Charles |title=Cats with a rich history: Answers to correspondents |work=Irish Daily Mail |date=3 August 2016 |page=38}}</ref>


In 1998 a man in [[Clark County, Washington]] changed his surname from "Kenny" to "Kilkenny", reversing a change his great-grandfather had made to avoid the fighting stereotype associated with the name "Kilkenny" in the United States.<ref>{{cite news |last1=Clayton |first1=Richard S. |title=Names are 'Cultural Storage Chests,' but Sometimes Barriers |work=[[The Columbian]] |date=8 Nov 1998 |location=[[Vancouver, Washington]] |page=A12}}</ref>
In 1998 a man in [[Clark County, Washington]], changed his surname from "Kenny" to "Kilkenny", reversing a change his great-grandfather had made to avoid the fighting stereotype associated with the name "Kilkenny" in the United States.<ref>{{cite news |last=Clayton |first=Richard S. |title=Names are 'Cultural Storage Chests,' but Sometimes Barriers |work=[[The Columbian]] |date=8 November 1998 |location=Vancouver, WA |page=A12}}</ref>


==Origin theories==
==Origin theories==
The simplest theory for the story is that it is merely an [[Irish joke]] or [[Irish bull]],<ref name="Neal"/><ref name="Connor2017"/><ref name="Walsh1892">{{cite book |first=William Shepard |last=Walsh |title=Handy-book of Literary Curiosities |chapterurl=https://archive.org/details/handybooklitera04walsgoog/page/n588 |publisher=J.B. Lippincott Company |date=1909 |orig-year=1892 |page=585 |chapter=Kilkenny cats |accessdate=6 November 2019 }}</ref> and that the selection of Kilkenny as opposed to somewhere else in Ireland is arbitrary, perhaps favoured by the [[alliteration]] of the phrase "Kilkenny cats".<ref>{{cite web |last1=Tréguer |first1=Pascal |title=The nonsensical origin of 'Kilkenny cats' |url=https://wordhistories.net/2017/01/06/kilkenny-cats/ |website=Word Histories |accessdate=28 November 2019 |date=6 January 2017}}</ref> John G.A. Prim in ''Notes and Queries'' in 1850 conceded that this was the most commonly accepted theory ("This ludicrous anecdote has, no doubt, been generally looked upon as an absurdity of the Joe Miller class").<ref name="Prim1850">{{cite journal |last1=Prim |first1=John G. A. |title=The Kilkenny Cats |journal=Notes and Queries |date=29 June 1850 |doi=10.1093/nq/s1-II.35.71a |volume=s1 v2 |issue=35 |page=71 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=WrARAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA71 |accessdate=6 November 2019 |publisher=Oxford University Press |language=en}}</ref> ''[[La Belle Assemblée]]'' in 1823 credited Curran (for Kilkenny rather than Sligo).<ref>{{cite journal |author1=R. |title=The Cautious Man; A sketch |journal=La Belle Assemblée; Or, Bell's Court and Fashionable Magazine |date=January 1823 |volume=s.2 XXVII |issue=170 |page=22 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081673455&view=plaintext&seq=34 |accessdate=29 November 2019 |language=en |quote=there was no more left of them than Curran described to have remained of the Kilkenny cats}}</ref> As regards the age of the story, Prim in 1868 wrote:<ref name="prim1868"/>
The simplest theory for the story is that it is merely an [[Irish joke]] or [[Irish bull]],<ref name="Neal"/><ref name="Connor2017"/><ref name="Walsh1892">{{cite book |last=Walsh |first=William Shepard |title=Handy-book of Literary Curiosities |chapter=Kilkenny cats |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/handybooklitera04walsgoog/page/n588 |publisher=J.B. Lippincott Company |orig-year=1892 |date=1909 |page=585 |access-date=6 November 2019}}</ref> and that the selection of Kilkenny as opposed to somewhere else in Ireland is arbitrary, perhaps favoured by the [[alliteration]] of the phrase "Kilkenny cats".<ref>{{cite web |last=Tréguer |first=Pascal |title=The nonsensical origin of 'Kilkenny cats' |url=https://wordhistories.net/2017/01/06/kilkenny-cats/ |website=Word Histories |access-date=28 November 2019 |date=6 January 2017}}</ref> John G. A. Prim in ''Notes and Queries'' in 1850 conceded that this was the most commonly accepted theory ("This ludicrous anecdote has, no doubt, been generally looked upon as an absurdity of the Joe Miller class").<ref name="Prim1850">{{cite journal |last=Prim |first=John G.A. |title=The Kilkenny Cats |journal=Notes and Queries |date=29 June 1850 |doi=10.1093/nq/s1-II.35.71a |volume=s1 v2 |issue=35 |page=71 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=WrARAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA71 |access-date=6 November 2019 |publisher=Oxford University Press}}</ref> ''[[La Belle Assemblée]]'' in 1823 credited Curran (for Kilkenny rather than Sligo).<ref>{{cite journal |author1=R. |title=The Cautious Man; A sketch |journal=La Belle Assemblée; or, Bell's Court and Fashionable Magazine |date=January 1823 |volume=s.2 XXVII |issue=170 |page=22 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081673455&view=plaintext&seq=34 |access-date=29 November 2019 |quote=there was no more left of them than Curran described to have remained of the Kilkenny cats}}</ref> As regards the age of the story, Prim in 1868 wrote:<ref name="prim1868"/>
:Thirty years ago I made inquiries amongst the "oldest inhabitants" of my acquaintance then living, and their unanimous testimony was, that the story of the Kilkenny cats was in vogue as long as they could remember, and the recollections of some of them extended to nearly half a century before [1798].
:Thirty years ago I made inquiries amongst the "oldest inhabitants" of my acquaintance then living, and their unanimous testimony was, that the story of the Kilkenny cats was in vogue as long as they could remember, and the recollections of some of them extended to nearly half a century before [1798].
Rowley Lascelles claimed [[#Biblesocieties|the 1816 version]] of the story was "taken from another, a well-known one, which is shortly this. Into a kennel of hounds, a dog of another species, did, one night, accidentally make its way. In the morning nothing was found of him but his tail."<ref name="Lascelles1817"/> In the ''[[Histoire Naturelle]]'' (1758), [[Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon|Buffon]] describes how twelve unfed captive [[wood mouse|field mice]] ate each other, the survivor having mutilated legs and tail.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Buffon |first1=Georges Louis Leclerc comte de |title=Histoire naturelle, générale et particuliére |volume=7: Quadrupeds |date=1758 |publisher=L'Imprimerie royale |page=330 |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=4c5CAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA330 |language=fr |chapter=Le Mulot}}; {{cite book |last1=Buffon |first1=Georges Louis Leclerc comte de |title=Barr's Buffon. Buffon's Natural History |volume=VI |date=1792 |publisher=J.S. Barr |location=London |page=219 |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=8SUOAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA219 |chapter=The Field-Mouse |accessdate=19 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref>
Rowley Lascelles claimed [[#Biblesocieties|the 1816 version]] of the story was "taken from another, a well-known one, which is shortly this. Into a kennel of hounds, a dog of another species, did, one night, accidentally make its way. In the morning nothing was found of him but his tail."<ref name="Lascelles1817"/> In the ''[[Histoire Naturelle]]'' (1758), [[Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon|Buffon]] describes how twelve unfed captive [[Wood mouse|field mice]] ate each other, the survivor having mutilated legs and tail.<ref>{{cite book |last=Buffon |first=Georges Louis Leclerc comte de |author-link=Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon |title=Histoire naturelle, générale et particuliére |volume=7: Quadrupeds |date=1758 |publisher=L'Imprimerie royale |page=330 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=4c5CAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA330 |language=fr |chapter=Le Mulot}}; {{cite book |last=Buffon |first=Georges Louis Leclerc comte de |title=Barr's Buffon. Buffon's Natural History |volume=VI |date=1792 |publisher=J.S. Barr |location=London |page=219 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=8SUOAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA219 |chapter=The Field-Mouse |access-date=19 November 2019}}</ref>


Prim proposed that the cats were originally an [[allegory]] for continual jurisdictional disputes between the adjacent [[municipal corporation]]s of Kilkenny (or Englishtown, or Hightown) and [[Irishtown, Kilkenny|Irishtown]] (or Saint Canice, or Newcourt).<ref name="Prim1850"/>{{#tag:ref|The two boroughs and corporations were replaced in 1843 by a single borough and corporation named Kilkenny, under the [[Municipal Corporations (Ireland) Act 1840]].<ref>{{cite book |last1=Bradley |first1=John |title=Kilkenny |url=https://www.ria.ie/sites/default/files/ihta-10-kilkenny-text.pdf#pg=2 |series=Irish Historic Towns Atlas |volume=10 |publisher=Royal Irish Academy |editor1-first=Anngret |editor1-last=Simms |editor2-first=H.B. |editor2-last=Clarke |editor3-first=Raymond |editor3-last=Gillespie |others=Consultant editor: J.H. Andrews; Cartographic editor: Sarah Gearty |date=2000 |accessdate=20 November 2019 |format=PDF |page=1}}</ref>|group="n"}} Prim claimed that "mutual litigations, squabbles, assaults and batteries, with the accompanying imprisonments, fines and law costs",<ref name="prim1868"/> which brought both near to bankruptcy, lasted from 1377 to "the end of the seventeenth century".<ref name="Prim1850"/> He claimed to have a paper on "the natural history of the Kilkenny cats" in preparation, and cited a [[Close Roll]] entry from the [[Irish Chancery]] for the 1377 date.<ref name="Prim1850"/> (The entry notes that [[Alexander de Balscot]], the [[bishop of Ossory]] and [[sovereign#Municipal Government|sovereign]] of Irishtown, objected to Kilkenny corporation levying [[octroi]] for [[murage]] on Irishtown [[market town|market]].<ref>[https://chancery.tcd.ie/roll/51-Edward-III/close#node-51653 Rot. Claus. 51 Ed. III. 78]</ref>) Prim's paper about the cats story was not published, though in one of 1870 he states, "Soon after [1658] the municipal body of Kilkenny became involved in an expensive lawsuit with the neighbouring Corporation of Irishtown, concerning questions of privilege and superior authority within the latter borough";<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Prim |first1=John G. A. |title=The Corporation Insignia and Olden Civic State of Kilkenny |jstor=25506583 |journal=The Journal of the Royal Historical and Archaeological Association of Ireland |date=1870 |volume=1 |issue=1 |pages=280–305 |issn=0790-6382}}</ref> while in 1857 he wrote that [[John Hartstonge]], as bishop of Ossory from 1693, and his brother [[Standish Hartstonge (Kilkenny City MP)|Standish]], as [[Recorder (judge)|Recorder]] of Kilkenny from 1694, were on opposing sides of the dispute.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Graves |first1=James |last2=Prim |first2=John G. Augustus |title=The History, Architecture, and Antiquities of the Cathedral Church of St. Canice, Kilkenny |date=1857 |publisher=Hodges, Smith |location=Dublin |page=319 |url=https://archive.org/details/historyarchitec01gravgoog/page/n354 |accessdate=9 December 2019}}</ref> C. A. Ward suggested in 1891 that Prim's explanation is "simply a tale invented after the fable relating to the cats had got into circulation".<ref>{{cite journal |url=https://archive.org/details/s7notesqueries11londuoft/page/129 |journal=Notes & Queries |title=Kilkenny Cats |first=C. A. |last=Ward |page=129 |volume=s7 v9 |issue=268 |doi=10.1093/nq/s7-XI.268.129d |date=14 February 1891 |accessdate=6 November 2019 }}</ref> Prim's theory was bolstered in 1943 by publication, in a [[Calendar (archives)|calendar]] of [[Earl of Ormond (Ireland)|Ormond]] papers, of a 1596 arbitration between the corporations over markets, merchants' [[guild]]s, and [[muster (military)|muster]]s.<ref>{{cite news |title=Calendar of Ormond Deeds; The "Kilkenny Cats" Legend |work=Kilkenny People |date=27 November 1943 |page=5}}; {{cite book |editor1-last=Curtis |editor1-first=Edmund |title=Calendar of Ormond Deeds |volume=VI: 1584–1603 |date=1943 |publisher=Irish Manuscripts Commission |pages=97–99 |chapter=121. The Liberties of Irishtown, Kilkenny |chapter-url=http://www.irishmanuscripts.ie/servlet/Controller?action=digitisation_backlist |accessdate=25 November 2019 }}</ref> ''[[The New International Encyclopedia]]'' in 1903 claimed this allegory was a satire by [[Jonathan Swift]],<ref>{{cite book |title=The New International Encyclopedia |date=1903 |publisher=Dodd, Mead |location=New York |page=691 |volume=X |chapterurl=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015053670355&view=1up&seq=751 |accessdate=20 November 2019 |chapter=Kilkenny}}</ref> who attended [[Kilkenny College]] from 1673 to 1681.<ref name="craik1894"/> [[Sir Henry Craik, 1st Baronet|Henry Craik]]'s 1894 biography suggests the alleged dispute between Englishtown and Irishtown was still in progress in Swift's time and was between [[Protestantism in Ireland|Protestants]] and [[Catholic Church in Ireland|Catholics]].<ref name="craik1894">{{cite book |last1=Craik |first1=Henry |title=The life of Jonathan Swift, dean of St. Patrick's, Dublin |date=1894 |publisher=Macmillan |location=London |pages=13–14 |url=https://archive.org/details/lifeofjonathansw01craiuoft/page/14 |accessdate=19 November 2019}}</ref> In fact, Irishtown corporation was controlled by the [[Church of Ireland]] bishop of Ossory.<ref>{{cite web |title=Constituencies: St Canice or Irishtown |url=https://www.ancestryireland.com/history-of-the-irish-parliament/constituencies/st-canice-or-irishtown/ |website=History of the Irish Parliament |publisher=Ulster Historical Foundation |accessdate=19 November 2019}}</ref>
Prim proposed that the cats were originally an [[allegory]] for continual jurisdictional disputes between the adjacent [[municipal corporation]]s of Kilkenny (or Englishtown, or Hightown) and [[Irishtown, Kilkenny|Irishtown]] (or Saint Canice, or Newcourt).<ref name="Prim1850"/>{{#tag:ref|The two boroughs and corporations were replaced in 1843 by a single borough and corporation named Kilkenny, under the [[Municipal Corporations (Ireland) Act 1840]].<ref>{{cite book |last1=Bradley |first1=John |title=Kilkenny |url=https://www.ria.ie/sites/default/files/ihta-10-kilkenny-text.pdf#pg=2 |series=Irish Historic Towns Atlas |volume=10 |publisher=Royal Irish Academy |editor1-first=Anngret |editor1-last=Simms |editor2-first=H.B. |editor2-last=Clarke |editor3-first=Raymond |editor3-last=Gillespie |others=Consultant editor: J.H. Andrews; Cartographic editor: Sarah Gearty |date=2000 |access-date=20 November 2019 |format=PDF |page=1}}</ref>|group="n"}} Prim claimed that "mutual litigations, squabbles, assaults and batteries, with the accompanying imprisonments, fines and law costs",<ref name="prim1868"/> which brought both near to bankruptcy, lasted from 1377 to "the end of the seventeenth century".<ref name="Prim1850"/> He claimed to have a paper on "the natural history of the Kilkenny cats" in preparation, and cited a [[Close Roll]] entry from the [[Irish Chancery]] for the 1377 date.<ref name="Prim1850"/> (The entry notes that [[Alexander de Balscot]], the [[bishop of Ossory]] and [[sovereign#Municipal Government|sovereign]] of Irishtown, objected to Kilkenny corporation levying [[octroi]] for [[murage]] on Irishtown [[market town|market]].<ref>[https://chancery.tcd.ie/roll/51-Edward-III/close#node-51653 Rot. Claus. 51 Ed. III. 78]</ref>) Prim's paper about the cats story was not published, though in one of 1870 he states, "Soon after [1658] the municipal body of Kilkenny became involved in an expensive lawsuit with the neighbouring Corporation of Irishtown, concerning questions of privilege and superior authority within the latter borough";<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Prim |first1=John G. A. |title=The Corporation Insignia and Olden Civic State of Kilkenny |jstor=25506583 |journal=The Journal of the Royal Historical and Archaeological Association of Ireland |date=1870 |volume=1 |issue=1 |pages=280–305 |issn=0790-6382}}</ref> while in 1857 he wrote that [[John Hartstonge]], as bishop of Ossory from 1693, and his brother [[Standish Hartstonge (Kilkenny City MP)|Standish]], as [[Recorder (judge)|Recorder]] of Kilkenny from 1694, were on opposing sides of the dispute.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Graves |first1=James |last2=Prim |first2=John G. Augustus |title=The History, Architecture, and Antiquities of the Cathedral Church of St. Canice, Kilkenny |date=1857 |publisher=Hodges, Smith |location=Dublin |page=[https://archive.org/details/historyarchitec01gravgoog/page/n354 319] |url=https://archive.org/details/historyarchitec01gravgoog |access-date=9 December 2019}}</ref> C. A. Ward suggested in 1891 that Prim's explanation is "simply a tale invented after the fable relating to the cats had got into circulation".<ref>{{cite journal |last=Ward |first=C.A. |title=Kilkenny Cats |url=https://archive.org/details/s7notesqueries11londuoft/page/129 |journal=Notes & Queries |page=129 |volume=s7 v9 |issue=268 |doi=10.1093/nq/s7-XI.268.129d |date=14 February 1891 |access-date=6 November 2019}}</ref> Prim's theory was bolstered in 1943 by publication, in a [[Calendar (archives)|calendar]] of [[Earl of Ormond (Ireland)|Ormond]] papers, of a 1596 arbitration between the corporations over markets, merchants' [[guild]]s, and [[muster (military)|muster]]s.<ref>{{cite news |title=Calendar of Ormond Deeds; The "Kilkenny Cats" Legend |work=Kilkenny People |date=27 November 1943 |page=5}}; {{cite book |editor-last=Curtis |editor-first=Edmund | editor-link=William Eleroy Curtis |title=Calendar of Ormond Deeds |volume=VI: 1584–1603 |date=1943 |publisher=Irish Manuscripts Commission |pages=97–99 |chapter=121. The Liberties of Irishtown, Kilkenny |chapter-url=http://www.irishmanuscripts.ie/servlet/Controller?action=digitisation_backlist |access-date=25 November 2019}}</ref> ''[[The New International Encyclopedia]]'' in 1903 claimed this allegory was a satire by [[Jonathan Swift]],<ref>{{cite book |title=The New International Encyclopedia |date=1903 |publisher=Dodd, Mead |location=New York |page=691 |volume=X |chapter-url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015053670355&view=1up&seq=751 |access-date=20 November 2019 |chapter=Kilkenny}}</ref> who attended [[Kilkenny College]] from 1673 to 1681.<ref name="craik1894"/> [[Sir Henry Craik, 1st Baronet|Henry Craik]]'s 1894 biography suggests the alleged dispute between Englishtown and Irishtown was still in progress in Swift's time and was between [[Protestantism in Ireland|Protestants]] and [[Catholic Church in Ireland|Catholics]].<ref name="craik1894">{{cite book |last1=Craik |first1=Henry |title=The life of Jonathan Swift, dean of St. Patrick's, Dublin |date=1894 |publisher=Macmillan |location=London |pages=[https://archive.org/details/lifeofjonathansw01craiuoft/page/13 13]–14 |url=https://archive.org/details/lifeofjonathansw01craiuoft |access-date=19 November 2019}}</ref> In fact, Irishtown corporation was controlled by the [[Church of Ireland]] bishop of Ossory.<ref>{{cite web |title=Constituencies: St Canice or Irishtown |url=https://www.ancestryireland.com/history-of-the-irish-parliament/constituencies/st-canice-or-irishtown/ |website=History of the Irish Parliament |publisher=Ulster Historical Foundation |access-date=19 November 2019}}</ref>


[[Thomas D'Arcy McGee]] in 1853 claimed the origin is a metaphor for feuding, not between Englishtown and Irishtown, but in the [[Confederation of Kilkenny]] between supporters and opponents of [[James Butler, 1st Duke of Ormond|Ormonde]]'s first peace in 1646.<ref>{{cite book |last1=McGee |first1=Thomas D'Arcy |title=A history of the attempts to establish the Protestant Reformation in Ireland and the successful resistance of that people |date=1853 |publisher=Patrick Donahoe |location=Boston |page=119 |url=https://archive.org/details/cihm_48633/page/n126 |accessdate=19 November 2019}}</ref> D. M. R. Esson in 1971 gave Ormonde's second peace in 1648 as the source.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Esson |first1=Denis Main Ross |title=The Curse of Cromwell: A History of the Ironside Conquest of Ireland, 1649–53 |date=1971 |publisher=Leo Cooper |location=London |isbn=9780850520668 |page=79 |language=en |quote=In February 1647 another General Assembly was convoked at Kilkenny, but the disputes were now beyond composition, and the meetings were so disorderly that the expression "quarrelling like Kilkenny cats" has passed into the English language}}; {{cite book |last=Kloak |first=Andrew M. |editor-last1=Ring |editor-first1=Trudy |editor-last2=Watson |editor-first2=Noelle |editor-last3=Schellinger |editor-first3=Paul |title=Northern Europe |series=International Dictionary of Historic Places |volume=2 |date=2013 |publisher=Routledge |isbn=9781136639449 |pages=374–377: 376 |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=yfPYAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA376 |accessdate=12 November 2019 |language=en |chapter=Kilkenny (Kilkenny, Ireland)}}</ref>
[[Thomas D'Arcy McGee]] in 1853 claimed the origin is a metaphor for feuding, not between Englishtown and Irishtown, but in the [[Confederation of Kilkenny]] between supporters and opponents of [[James Butler, 1st Duke of Ormond|Ormonde]]'s first peace in 1646.<ref>{{cite book |last1=McGee |first1=Thomas D'Arcy |title=A history of the attempts to establish the Protestant Reformation in Ireland and the successful resistance of that people |date=1853 |publisher=Patrick Donahoe |location=Boston |page=[https://archive.org/details/cihm_48633/page/n126 119] |url=https://archive.org/details/cihm_48633 |access-date=19 November 2019}}</ref> D. M. R. Esson in 1971 gave Ormonde's second peace in 1648 as the source.<ref>{{cite book |last=Esson |first=Denis Main Ross |title=The Curse of Cromwell: A History of the Ironside Conquest of Ireland, 1649–53 |date=1971 |publisher=Leo Cooper |location=London |isbn=9780850520668 |page=79 |quote=In February 1647 another General Assembly was convoked at Kilkenny, but the disputes were now beyond composition, and the meetings were so disorderly that the expression "quarrelling like Kilkenny cats" has passed into the English language}}; {{cite book |last=Kloak |first=Andrew M. |editor-last1=Ring |editor-first1=Trudy |editor-last2=Watson |editor-first2=Noelle |editor-last3=Schellinger |editor-first3=Paul |title=Northern Europe |series=International Dictionary of Historic Places |volume=2 |date=2013 |publisher=Routledge |isbn=9781136639449 |pages=374–377: 376 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=yfPYAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA376 |access-date=12 November 2019 |chapter=Kilkenny (Kilkenny, Ireland)}}</ref>


[[File:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|thumb|Detail from ''[[First stage of cruelty]]'' (Hogarth, 1751) depicting two cats tied and suspended by a rope to fight each other.]]
[[File:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|thumb|Detail from ''[[First stage of cruelty]]'' (Hogarth, 1751) depicting two cats tied and suspended by a rope to fight each other.]]
Another theory was reported by "Juverna" in ''Notes and Queries'' in 1864, as having been heard "in Kilkenny, forty years ago, from a gentleman of unquestioned veracity".<ref name="juverna1864">{{cite journal |author=Juverna |title=Kilkenny Cats |journal=Notes and Queries |date=28 May 1864 |volume=s3 v5 |issue=126 |doi=10.1093/nq/s3-V.126.433a |pages=433 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=629zXVqXp_8C&dq=%22Kilkenny%20cats%22&pg=PA433#v=onepage&q&f=false |publisher=Oxford University Press |language=en}}</ref> The story holds that a group of bored soldiers stationed in Kilkenny held fights between two cats tied together by their tails and suspended from a [[clothes line]] or crosspost.{{#tag:ref|
Another theory was reported by "Juverna" in ''Notes and Queries'' in 1864, as having been heard "in Kilkenny, forty years ago, from a gentleman of unquestioned veracity".<ref name="juverna1864">{{cite journal |author=Juverna |title=Kilkenny Cats |journal=Notes and Queries |date=28 May 1864 |volume=s3 v5 |issue=126 |doi=10.1093/nq/s3-V.126.433a |pages=433 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=629zXVqXp_8C&q=%22Kilkenny%20cats%22&pg=PA433 |publisher=Oxford University Press}}</ref> The story holds that a group of bored soldiers stationed in Kilkenny held fights between two cats tied together by their tails and suspended from a [[clothes line]] or crosspost.{{#tag:ref|
This form of cat fighting is attested, usually instigated by boys, from the 18th to the early 20th century.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Rogers |first1=Katharine M. |title=The Cat and the Human Imagination: Feline Images from Bast to Garfield |date=2001 |publisher=University of Michigan Press |isbn=9780472087501 |page=41 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=D1wZuTutJbwC&pg=PA41 |accessdate=13 November 2019 |language=en}};
This form of cat fighting is attested, usually instigated by boys, from the 18th to the early 20th century.<ref>{{cite book |last=Rogers |first=Katharine M. |title=The Cat and the Human Imagination: Feline Images from Bast to Garfield |date=2001 |publisher=University of Michigan Press |isbn=9780472087501 |page=41 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=D1wZuTutJbwC&pg=PA41 |access-date=13 November 2019}};
{{cite journal |author1=Humanus |title=Mankind Naturally Addicted to Cruelty |journal=Edinburgh Magazine & Literary Miscellany |date=November 1788 |volume=VIII |issue=47 |pages=352–353 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=tW8EAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA352 |accessdate=8 November 2019 |publisher=J. Sibbald |language=en}};
{{cite journal |author1=Humanus |title=Mankind Naturally Addicted to Cruelty |journal=Edinburgh Magazine & Literary Miscellany |date=November 1788 |volume=VIII |issue=47 |pages=352–353 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=tW8EAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA352 |access-date=8 November 2019 |publisher=J. Sibbald}};
{{cite journal |author1=Humanity |title=The Two Cats; or, The Principle of Retaliation |journal=The Sabbath School Visiter |date=June 1834 |volume=II |issue=6 |page=126 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=hf8BAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA126 |accessdate=14 November 2019 |publisher=Massachusetts Sabbath School Society |language=en}};
{{cite journal |author1=Humanity |title=The Two Cats; or, The Principle of Retaliation |journal=The Sabbath School Visiter |date=June 1834 |volume=II |issue=6 |page=126 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=hf8BAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA126 |access-date=14 November 2019 |publisher=Massachusetts Sabbath School Society}};
{{cite journal |journal=The Independent |location=New York City |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000020206741&view=1up&seq=450 |date=3 April 1879 |author=Simon Slope |title=Articles: Cats |volume=31 |number=1583 |page=28 |language=en}};
{{cite journal |journal=The Independent |location=New York City |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000020206741&view=1up&seq=450 |date=3 April 1879 |author=Simon Slope |title=Articles: Cats |volume=31 |number=1583 |page=28}};
{{cite book |first=Gene |last=Stratton-Porter|authorlink=Gene Stratton-Porter|title=A Girl of the Limberlost |date=2011 |orig-year=1909 |pages=127, 144 |chapter-url=http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=StrGirl.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=7&division=div1 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110215150058/http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=StrGirl.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=7&division=div1 |archive-date=15 February 2011 |chapter=Chapter 7: Wherein Mrs. Comstock Manipulates Margaret and Billy Acquires a Residence}};
{{cite book |first=Gene |last=Stratton-Porter|author-link=Gene Stratton-Porter|title=A Girl of the Limberlost |date=2011 |orig-year=1909 |pages=127, 144 |chapter-url=http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=StrGirl.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=7&division=div1 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110215150058/http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=StrGirl.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=7&division=div1 |archive-date=15 February 2011 |chapter=Chapter 7: Wherein Mrs. Comstock Manipulates Margaret and Billy Acquires a Residence}};
{{cite journal |title=Nineteenth Annual Report |author=New York State Probation Commission |journal=New York Legislative Documents |date=1925 |publisher=New York Legislature |volume=5 |number=14 |page=162 |language=en}}</ref>
{{cite journal |title=Nineteenth Annual Report |author=New York State Probation Commission |journal=New York Legislative Documents |date=1925 |publisher=New York Legislature |volume=5 |number=14 |page=162}}</ref>
A similar anecdote was attributed to [[Abraham Lincoln]] in an 1861 newspaper.<ref>{{cite news |title=On the Decline |url=http://www2.vcdh.virginia.edu/saxon/servlet/SaxonServlet?source=/xml_docs/valley_news/newspaper_catalog.xml&style=/xml_docs/valley_news/news_cat.xsl&level=edition&paper=vs&year=1861&month=03&day=27&edition=vs1861/pa.fr.vs.1861.03.27.xml#04 |accessdate=14 November 2019 |work=Valley Spirit |date=27 March 1861 |page=4}}</ref>
A similar anecdote was attributed to [[Abraham Lincoln]] in an 1861 newspaper.<ref>{{cite news |title=On the Decline |url=http://www2.vcdh.virginia.edu/saxon/servlet/SaxonServlet?source=/xml_docs/valley_news/newspaper_catalog.xml&style=/xml_docs/valley_news/news_cat.xsl&level=edition&paper=vs&year=1861&month=03&day=27&edition=vs1861/pa.fr.vs.1861.03.27.xml#04 |access-date=14 November 2019 |work=Valley Spirit |date=27 March 1861 |page=4}}</ref>
|group="n"}} Their commander forbade the practice, but they carried on in secret. When the commander was heard approaching, a soldier hastily cut through the cats' tails, allowing them to escape. The commander asked about the hanging tail ends, and the soldier averred that the cats had eaten each other. In Juverna's version, the troops were [[Hessian (soldier)|Hessian]]s after the [[Wexford Rebellion]] of 1798 or [[Emmet's Insurrection]] of 1803;<ref name="juverna1864"/> A review in ''[[The Athenaeum (British magazine)|The Athenaeum]]'' of Ross' ''Book of Cats'' claims the soldiers were in the [[Williamite War in Ireland|Williamite army]] of 1690.<ref name="atheneum1867">{{cite journal |title=[Review] ''The Book of Cats'' |journal=The Athenæum |date=28 December 1867 |issue=2096 |pages=888–889 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=cuRCAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA889 |accessdate=6 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref> Prim agrees that the episode occurred with Hessians in 1798, but states that their sport was influenced by a story already proverbial.<ref name="prim1868"/> In other accounts, the soldiers were the regular garrison at [[Kilkenny Castle]] in [[Elizabeth I|Elizabethan]] times (1558–1603);<ref>{{cite book |last1=Curtis |first1=William Eleroy |title=One Irish Summer |date=9 October 2013 |orig-year=1908 |publisher=Project Gutenberg |page=325 |url=http://www.gutenberg.org/files/43921/43921-h/43921-h.htm#Page_325 |accessdate=6 November 2019}}</ref> or the [[Confederate Ireland|Catholic Confederate]] army of the 1640s; or [[Cromwellian conquest of Ireland|Cromwell's occupying force]] of the 1650s.<ref>{{cite book |title=Chambers's Encyclopaedia |date=1950 |publisher=Oxford University Press |page=217 |volume=8 |language=en |chapter=Kilkenny }}</ref> [[John Baptist Crozier]] when [[Bishop of Ossory, Ferns and Leighlin]] endorsed the theory.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Harris |first1=Richard W. |title=Not So Humdrum: The Autobiography of a Civil Servant |date=1939 |publisher=John Lane |page=81 |language=en}}</ref> Joseph O'Connor's 1951 memoir has Matt Purcell, a comrade of his father's in the [[10th (North Lincoln) Regiment of Foot]] in the 1880s, claim the original Kilkenny cats were tied together by the [[Earl of Ormond (Ireland)|Earl of Ormond]]'s [[jester]].<ref>{{cite book |last1=O'Connor |first1=Joseph |title=Hostage to fortune |date=1951 |publisher=M. F. Moynihan |location=Dublin |page=18 |language=en |quote=It was Matt who first told us of the Kilkenny cats, which the Earl of Ormond's jester, in a fit of jealousy, tied together by the tails and flung over a clothes-line 'to fight it out'}}</ref>
|group="n"}} Their commander forbade the practice, but they carried on in secret. When the commander was heard approaching, a soldier hastily cut through the cats' tails, allowing them to escape. The commander asked about the hanging tail ends, and the soldier averred that the cats had eaten each other. In Juverna's version, the troops were [[Hessian (soldier)|Hessian]]s after the [[Wexford Rebellion]] of 1798 or [[Emmet's Insurrection]] of 1803.<ref name="juverna1864"/> A review in ''[[The Athenaeum (British magazine)|The Athenaeum]]'' of Ross' ''Book of Cats'' claims the soldiers were in the [[Williamite War in Ireland|Williamite army]] of 1690.<ref name="atheneum1867">{{cite journal |title=[Review] ''The Book of Cats'' |journal=The Athenæum |date=28 December 1867 |issue=2096 |pages=888–889 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=cuRCAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA889 |access-date=6 November 2019}}</ref> Prim agrees that the episode occurred with Hessians in 1798, but states that their sport was influenced by a story already proverbial.<ref name="prim1868"/> In other accounts, the soldiers were the regular garrison at [[Kilkenny Castle]] in [[Elizabeth I|Elizabethan]] times (1558–1603);<ref>{{cite book |last1=Curtis |first1=William Eleroy |title=One Irish Summer |date=9 October 2013 |orig-year=1908 |publisher=Project Gutenberg |page=325 |url=http://www.gutenberg.org/files/43921/43921-h/43921-h.htm#Page_325 |access-date=6 November 2019}}</ref> or the [[Confederate Ireland|Catholic Confederate]] army of the 1640s; or [[Cromwellian conquest of Ireland|Cromwell's occupying force]] of the 1650s.<ref>{{cite book |title=Chambers's Encyclopaedia |date=1950 |publisher=Oxford University Press |page=217 |volume=8 |chapter=Kilkenny}}</ref> [[John Baptist Crozier]] when [[Bishop of Ossory, Ferns and Leighlin]] endorsed the theory.<ref>{{cite book |last=Harris |first=Richard W. |title=Not So Humdrum: The Autobiography of a Civil Servant |date=1939 |publisher=John Lane |page=81}}</ref> Joseph O'Connor's 1951 memoir has Matt Purcell, a comrade of his father's in the [[10th (North Lincoln) Regiment of Foot]] in the 1880s, claim the original Kilkenny cats were tied together by the [[Earl of Ormond (Ireland)|Earl of Ormond]]'s [[jester]].<ref>{{cite book |last=O'Connor |first=Joseph |title=Hostage to fortune |date=1951 |publisher=M. F. Moynihan |location=Dublin |page=18 |quote=It was Matt who first told us of the Kilkenny cats, which the Earl of Ormond's jester, in a fit of jealousy, tied together by the tails and flung over a clothes-line 'to fight it out'}}</ref>


A 1324 [[witchcraft]] case in Kilkenny saw Dame [[Alice Kyteler]] flee and her servant [[Petronilla de Meath]] burnt at the stake after admitting relations with a demon which variously took the form of a dog, a cat, and an [[Aethiopia]]n. This cat has occasionally been linked to the Kilkenny cats story.<ref>{{cite news |last1=Carson |first1=Marianne |last2=Leggs |first2=Charles |title=Kettle kings on the boil |work=Irish Daily Mail |date=23 October 2012}}</ref> In 1857, [[John Thomas Gilbert]] made passing reference to "the Kilkenny cat of Dame Alice".<ref>{{cite book |last1=Gilbert |first1=Sir John Thomas |title=History of the Viceroys of Ireland: With Notices of the Castle of Dublin and Its Chief Occupants in Former Times |date=1865 |publisher=J. Duffy |page=535 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=V8Q9AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA535 |accessdate=11 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref> [[Austin Clarke (poet)|Austin Clarke]]'s 1963 poem "Beyond the Pale" recounts the story of "Dame Kyttler", continuing:<ref>{{cite book |last1=Clarke |first1=Austin |title=Flight to Africa: And Other Poems |date=1963 |publisher=Dolmen Press |page=70 |language=en}}</ref>
A 1324 [[witchcraft]] case in Kilkenny saw Dame [[Alice Kyteler]] flee and her servant [[Petronilla de Meath]] burnt at the stake after admitting relations with a demon which variously took the form of a dog, a cat, and an [[Aethiopia]]n. This cat has occasionally been linked to the Kilkenny cats story. In 1857, [[John Thomas Gilbert]] made passing reference to "the Kilkenny cat of Dame Alice".<ref>{{cite book |last=Gilbert |first=Sir John Thomas |title=History of the Viceroys of Ireland: With Notices of the Castle of Dublin and Its Chief Occupants in Former Times |date=1865 |publisher=J. Duffy |page=[https://archive.org/details/historyviceroys00gilbgoog/page/n575 535] |url=https://archive.org/details/historyviceroys00gilbgoog |access-date=11 November 2019}}</ref> [[Austin Clarke (poet)|Austin Clarke]]'s 1963 poem "Beyond the Pale" recounts the story of "Dame Kyttler", continuing:<ref>{{cite book |last=Clarke |first=Austin |author-link=Austin Clarke (poet) |title=Flight to Africa: And Other Poems |date=1963 |publisher=Dolmen Press |page=70}}</ref>
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{{anchor|Luchthigern}}<!--[[Luchthigern (beast)]] redirects here-->In 1986 Terence Sheehy suggested a link with the ''luchthigern'',<ref name="Sheehy1986">{{cite book |last1=Sheehy |first1=Terence |title=Journey through Ireland |date=1986 |publisher=Gallery Books |isbn=9780831752613 |page=30 |chapter=Dunmore Cave |language=en }}</ref> a beast mentioned in [[Broccán Craibdech]]'s poem in the "[[Book of Leinster]]" as having been slain by Midgna's wife{{#tag:ref|''Aithbel'' is interpreted as Midgna's wife's name by Praeger<ref name="praeger"/> and Dobbs<ref name="dobbs1954"/> but by Russell as a description of the fight.<ref name="Russell"/>|group="n"}} at a place named Derc-Ferna. ''Luchthigern'' is usually interpreted as "mouse lord" and ''Derc-Ferna'' as [[Dunmore Cave]] near Kilkenny city.<ref name="Joyce476"/><ref name="dobbs1954"/> Sheehy follows Praeger<ref name="praeger">{{cite journal |last1=Praeger |first1=R. Lloyd |title=Derc-Ferna: The Cave of Dunmore |jstor=25524777 |journal=The Irish Naturalist |date=1918 |volume=27 |issue=10/11 |pages=148–158 |issn=2009-2598}}</ref> and [[P.W. Joyce]]<ref name="Joyce476">{{cite book |last1=Joyce |first1=Patrick Weston |title=A social history of ancient Ireland |date=1903 |publisher=Longmans, Green |location=London |page=476 |url=https://archive.org/details/cu31924026124440/page/n476 |accessdate=7 November 2019}}</ref> in regarding the ''luchthigern'' as a huge cat; in contrast to Brian O'Looney ("some sort of monster")<ref>{{cite journal |last1=O'Looney |first1=Brian |title=On Ancient Historic Tales in the Irish Language |journal=Proceedings of the Royal Irish Academy |date=1879 |volume=15 [s2 v1 Pol Lit & Antiq] |issue=11 |pages=215–250: 224 |url=https://archive.org/details/proceedingsofro15roya/page/224 |location=Dublin}}</ref> [[Thomas O'Neill Russell]] ("Can this word mean a great mouse?")<ref name="Russell">{{cite book |last1=Russell |first1=Thomas O'Neill |title=Fíor chláirseach na h-Eireann; or, The true harp of Erin |date=1900 |publisher=Gill |location=Dublin |pages=118–128: 125 IV; 127 n.1,2 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/forchlirseac00russ/page/125 |accessdate=7 November 2019 |language=ga, en |chapter=Appendix}}</ref> and Dobbs ("a demon or a giant").<ref name="dobbs1954">{{cite journal |last1=Dobbs |first1=Margaret E. |title=On the graves of Leinster men |journal=Zeitschrift für celtische Philologie |date=1954 |volume=24 |pages=139–153}}</ref> ''A Dictionary of Celtic Mythology'' says that ''luchtigern'' was "Mouse-lord of Kilkenny, slain by a huge cat, Banghaisgidheach";<ref>{{cite book |chapter=Luchtigern |title=A Dictionary of Celtic Mythology |via=Oxford Reference |doi=10.1093/acref/9780198609674.001.0001 |chapter-url=https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803100117789 |page=305 |isbn=978-0198804840 |date=2016 |orig-year=2004 |edition=2nd |first=James |last=MacKillop |chapter-url-access=subscription |language=en }}</ref> this is apparently a misreading of Joyce, who describes Midgna's (human) wife as a {{lang|ga|ban-gaisgidheach}} "female champion".<ref name="Joyce476"/>
{{anchor|Luchthigern}}<!--[[Luchthigern (beast)]] redirects here-->In 1986 Terence Sheehy suggested a link with the ''luchthigern'',<ref name="Sheehy1986">{{cite book |last=Sheehy |first=Terence |title=Journey through Ireland |date=1986 |publisher=Gallery Books |isbn=9780831752613 |page=30 |chapter=Dunmore Cave}}</ref> a beast mentioned in [[Broccán Craibdech]]'s poem in the "[[Book of Leinster]]" as having been slain by Midgna's wife{{#tag:ref|''Aithbel'' is interpreted as Midgna's wife's name by Praeger<ref name="praeger"/> and Dobbs<ref name="dobbs1954"/> but by Russell as a description of the fight.<ref name="Russell"/>|group="n"}} at a place named Derc-Ferna. ''Luchthigern'' is usually interpreted as "mouse lord" and ''Derc-Ferna'' as [[Dunmore Cave]] near Kilkenny city.<ref name="Joyce476"/><ref name="dobbs1954"/> Sheehy follows Praeger<ref name="praeger">{{cite journal |last=Praeger |first=R. Lloyd |title=Derc-Ferna: The Cave of Dunmore |jstor=25524777 |journal=The Irish Naturalist |date=1918 |volume=27 |issue=10/11 |pages=148–158 |issn=2009-2598}}</ref> and [[P.W. Joyce]]<ref name="Joyce476">{{cite book |last=Joyce |first=Patrick Weston |title=A social history of ancient Ireland |date=1903 |publisher=Longmans, Green |location=London |page=[https://archive.org/details/cu31924026124440/page/n491 476] |url=https://archive.org/details/cu31924026124440 |access-date=7 November 2019}}</ref> in regarding the ''luchthigern'' as a huge cat; in contrast to Brian O'Looney ("some sort of monster")<ref>{{cite journal |last=O'Looney |first=Brian |title=On Ancient Historic Tales in the Irish Language |journal=Proceedings of the Royal Irish Academy |date=1879 |volume=15 [s2 v1 Pol Lit & Antiq] |issue=11 |pages=215–250: 224 |url=https://archive.org/details/proceedingsofro15roya/page/224 |location=Dublin}}</ref> [[Thomas O'Neill Russell]] ("Can this word mean a great mouse?")<ref name="Russell">{{cite book |last=Russell |first=Thomas O'Neill |title=Fíor chláirseach na h-Eireann; or, The true harp of Erin |date=1900 |publisher=Gill |location=Dublin |pages=118–128: 125 IV; 127 n.1,2 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/forchlirseac00russ/page/125 |access-date=7 November 2019 |language=ga, en |chapter=Appendix}}</ref> and Dobbs ("a demon or a giant").<ref name="dobbs1954">{{cite journal |last=Dobbs |first=Margaret E. |title=On the graves of Leinster men |journal=Zeitschrift für celtische Philologie |date=1954 |volume=24 |pages=139–153 |s2cid=164190954 |doi=10.1515/zcph.1954.24.1.139}}</ref> ''A Dictionary of Celtic Mythology'' says that ''luchtigern'' was "Mouse-lord of Kilkenny, slain by a huge cat, Banghaisgidheach";<ref>{{cite book |chapter=Luchtigern |title=A Dictionary of Celtic Mythology |via=Oxford Reference |doi=10.1093/acref/9780198609674.001.0001 |chapter-url=https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803100117789 |page=305 |isbn=978-0198804840 |date=2016 |orig-year=2004 |edition=2nd |first=James |last=MacKillop |chapter-url-access=subscription}}</ref> this is apparently a misreading of Joyce, who describes Midgna's (human) wife as a {{lang|ga|ban-gaisgidheach}} "female champion".<ref name="Joyce476"/>


In 1857, the editor of ''The Journal of the Kilkenny and South-East of Ireland Archaeological Society'' suggested that a heading "[[Grimalkin]] slain in Ireland" reported in a synopsis of the 1584 book ''[[Beware the Cat]]'' might be relevant;<ref name="Hore">{{cite journal |authorlink=Herbert F. Hore |last1=Hore |first1=Herbert F. |title=Notice of a Rare Book, Entitled, "Beware the Cat" |jstor=25502563?seq=2 |journal=The Journal of the Kilkenny and South-East of Ireland Archaeological Society |date=1859 |volume=2 |issue=2 |pages=310–312: 311, fn.1 |quote=In the absence of information it may, perhaps, be allowable to guess that this effusion might give some clue to the origin of the story of the world-famous "Kilkenny Cats," who ate each other to the tails! The first promulgator of this remarkable battle of the cats has never, that we are aware of, been traced. |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=dSpJAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA311 |accessdate=6 November 2019 |language=en |issn=0790-6366}}</ref> this was disproved by an 1868 reply in the successor journal explaining that the episode (a version of the folktale "[[The King of the Cats]]") is set in [[Bantry (County Wexford barony)|Bantry]] in [[County Wexford]] about "Patrik Agore", a [[Kern (soldier)|kern]] of John Butler, son of [[Richard Butler, 1st Viscount Mountgarret]], who sets out to kill [[Cahir mac Art Kavanagh]].<ref name="BewaretheCat">{{cite journal |last1=Malcomson |first1=Robert |last2=Graves |first2=James |title=Notice of a Book Entitled "Beware the Cat" |jstor=25497783 |journal=The Journal of the Historical and Archaeological Association of Ireland |date=1868 |volume=1 |issue=1 |pages=187–192 |issn=0790-6374}}; {{cite book |last1=Baldwin |first1=William |title=Beware the Cat |date=30 July 2010 |orig-year=1584 |publisher=Presscom |url=http://www.presscom.co.uk/halliwell/baldwin/baldwin_1584.html |accessdate=7 November 2019}}</ref>
In 1857, the editor of ''The Journal of the Kilkenny and South-East of Ireland Archaeological Society'' suggested that a heading "[[Grimalkin]] slain in Ireland" reported in a synopsis of the 1584 book ''[[Beware the Cat]]'' might be relevant;<ref name="Hore">{{cite journal |last=Hore |first=Herbert F. |author-link=Herbert F. Hore |title=Notice of a Rare Book, Entitled, "Beware the Cat" |jstor=25502563?seq=2 |journal=The Journal of the Kilkenny and South-East of Ireland Archaeological Society |date=1859 |volume=2 |issue=2 |pages=310–312: 311, fn.1 |quote=In the absence of information it may, perhaps, be allowable to guess that this effusion might give some clue to the origin of the story of the world-famous "Kilkenny Cats," who ate each other to the tails! The first promulgator of this remarkable battle of the cats has never, that we are aware of, been traced. |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=dSpJAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA311 |access-date=6 November 2019 |issn=0790-6366}}</ref> this was disproved by an 1868 reply in the successor journal explaining that the episode (a version of the folktale "[[The King of the Cats]]") is set in [[Bantry (County Wexford barony)|Bantry]] in [[County Wexford]] about "Patrik Agore", a [[Kern (soldier)|kern]] of John Butler, son of [[Richard Butler, 1st Viscount Mountgarret]], who sets out to kill [[Cahir mac Art Kavanagh]].<ref name="BewaretheCat">{{cite journal |last1=Malcomson |first1=Robert |last2=Graves |first2=James |title=Notice of a Book Entitled "Beware the Cat" |jstor=25497783 |journal=The Journal of the Historical and Archaeological Association of Ireland |date=1868 |volume=1 |issue=1 |pages=187–192 |issn=0790-6374}}; {{cite book |last=Baldwin |first=William |title=Beware the Cat |date=30 July 2010 |orig-year=1584 |publisher=Presscom |url=http://www.presscom.co.uk/halliwell/baldwin/baldwin_1584.html |access-date=7 November 2019}}</ref>


Authorities which discuss various origin theories include ''[[Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable]]'' (the Prim and Juverna theories in early editions;<ref>{{cite book |last1=Brewer |first1=E. Cobham |title=Dictionary of Phrase & Fable |date=1898 |publisher=Henry Altemus Company |via=Bartleby.com |location=Philadelphia |chapter-url=https://www.bartleby.com/81/3165.html |accessdate=19 November 2019 |chapter=Cat Proverbs}}</ref> the 19th edition follows ''[[Brewer's Dictionary of Irish Phrase and Fable]]'' in plumping for the Juverna theory); the [[Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition|''Encyclopædia Britannica'' Eleventh Edition]] (Prim, Juverna and J. P. Curran);<ref>{{cite book |title=Encyclopædia Britannica |edition=11th |volume=Vol. XV Slice VII: Kelly, Edward to Kite. |date=15 September 2012 |origyear=1911 |publisher=Project Gutenberg |chapterurl=https://www.gutenberg.org/files/40769/40769-h/40769-h.htm#ar194 |accessdate=6 November 2019 |chapter=Kilkenny (city of Ireland)}}</ref> [[World Wide Words]] (Prim, Juverna, and Redmond's great battle);<ref name="quinion">{{cite web |last1=Quinion |first1=Michael |title=Fight like Kilkenny cats |url=http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-fig1.htm |website=World Wide Words |accessdate=8 November 2019 |language=en-gb |date=3 January 2004}}</ref> [[Charles Earle Funk]] (the same three, Prim's credited to Swift; "probably none of them is true");<ref>{{cite book |last1=Funk |first1=Charles Earle |orig-year=1948 |via=Internet Archive |title=A hog on ice and other curious expressions |date=1985 |publisher=Harper & Row |location=New York |pages=149–150 |isbn=0-06-091259-6 |url=https://archive.org/details/hogoniceothercur00funk/page/149 |accessdate=6 December 2019 |url-access=registration}}</ref> [[Terence Dolan]] (Juverna);<ref>{{cite book |last1=Dolan |first1=Terence Patrick |title=A Dictionary of Hiberno-English: The Irish Use of English |edition=2nd |publisher=Gill and Macmillan |date=2006 |isbn=978-0-7171-4039-8 |page=46 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=RN0p1uienWMC&pg=PA46 |accessdate=6 December 2019 |language=en}}</ref> and [[Eric Partridge]] (Curran).<ref>{{cite book |last1=Partridge |first1=Eric |title=Name into word; proper names that have become common property; a discursive dictionary |date=1950 |publisher=Macmillan |location=New York |pages=570–571 |url=https://archive.org/details/nameintowordprop0000part/page/570 |accessdate=6 December 2019 |url-access=registration |via=Internet Archive}}</ref> Cashman and Gaffney's ''Irish Proverbs & Sayings'' recounts the Juverna theory as "probably just a tall tale".<ref>{{cite book |last1=Cashman |first1=Seamus |last2=Gaffney |first2=Sean |title=Irish Proverbs & Sayings |date=2 March 2015 |orig-year=1974 |publisher=O'Brien Press |isbn=978-1847177421 |page=38 No. 350 }}</ref> {{As of|2019|11|28}}, the ''[[Oxford English Dictionary]]'' does not comment on any of the purported historical origins.{{#tag:ref|The [[OED Third edition|third edition]], begun in 2000, has not yet updated the entry (s.v. "'''Kilkenny''' ''n.''", sense 1).|group="n"}}
Authorities which discuss various origin theories include ''[[Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable]]'' (the Prim and Juverna theories in early editions;<ref>{{cite book |last=Brewer |first=E. Cobham |title=Dictionary of Phrase & Fable |date=1898 |publisher=Henry Altemus Company |via=Bartleby.com |location=Philadelphia, PA |chapter-url=https://www.bartleby.com/81/3165.html |access-date=19 November 2019 |chapter=Cat Proverbs}}</ref> the 19th edition follows ''[[Brewer's Dictionary of Irish Phrase and Fable]]'' in plumping for the Juverna theory); the [[Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition|''Encyclopædia Britannica'' Eleventh Edition]] (Prim, Juverna and J. P. Curran);<ref>{{Cite EB1911 |wstitle=Kilkenny (city) |volume=15 |pages=793–794; see final para |quote=The origin of the expression “to fight like Kilkenny cats....has been the subject of many conjectures....}}</ref> [[World Wide Words]] (Prim, Juverna, and Redmond's great battle);<ref name="quinion">{{cite web |last=Quinion |first=Michael |title=Fight like Kilkenny cats |url=http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-fig1.htm |website=World Wide Words |access-date=8 November 2019 |language=en-GB |date=3 January 2004}}</ref> [[Charles Earle Funk]] (the same three, Prim's credited to Swift; "probably none of them is true");<ref>{{cite book |last=Funk |first=Charles Earle |orig-year=1948 |via=Internet Archive |title=A hog on ice and other curious expressions |date=1985 |publisher=Harper & Row |location=New York |pages=[https://archive.org/details/hogoniceothercur00funk/page/149 149]–150 |isbn=0-06-091259-6 |url=https://archive.org/details/hogoniceothercur00funk |access-date=6 December 2019 |url-access=registration}}</ref> [[Terence Dolan]] (Juverna);<ref>{{cite book |last=Dolan |first=Terence Patrick |title=A Dictionary of Hiberno-English: The Irish Use of English |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=RN0p1uienWMC&pg=PA46 |publisher=Gill and Macmillan |edition=2nd |date=2006 |page=46 |access-date=6 December 2019 |isbn=978-0-7171-4039-8}}</ref> and [[Eric Partridge]] (Curran).<ref>{{cite book |last=Partridge |first=Eric |author-link=Eric Partridge |title=Name into word; proper names that have become common property; a discursive dictionary |date=1950 |publisher=Macmillan |location=New York |pages=[https://archive.org/details/nameintowordprop0000part/page/570 570]–571 |url=https://archive.org/details/nameintowordprop0000part |access-date=6 December 2019 |url-access=registration |via=Internet Archive}}</ref> Cashman and Gaffney's ''Irish Proverbs & Sayings'' recounts the Juverna theory as "probably just a tall tale".<ref>{{cite book |last1=Cashman |first1=Seamus |last2=Gaffney |first2=Sean |title=Irish Proverbs & Sayings |date=2 March 2015 |orig-year=1974 |publisher=O'Brien Press |isbn=978-1847177421 |page=38 No. 350}}</ref> {{As of|2019|11|28}}, the ''[[Oxford English Dictionary]]'' does not comment on any of the purported historical origins.{{#tag:ref|The [[OED Third edition|third edition]], begun in 2000, has not yet updated the entry (s.v. "'''Kilkenny''' ''n.''", sense 1).|group="n"}}


===Folkloristics===
===Folkloristics===
[[Comparative mythology]] seeks to find parallels with folklore elsewhere. [[Angelo de Gubernatis]] wrote in 1872:<ref>{{cite book |last1=De Gubernatis |first1=Angelo |title=Zoological Mythology |volume=II |date=5 September 2012 |orig-year=1872 |publisher=Project Gutenberg |page=64 |url=http://www.gutenberg.org/files/38688/38688-h/38688-h.htm#Page_64 |accessdate=10 November 2019}}</ref>
[[Comparative mythology]] seeks to find parallels with folklore elsewhere. [[Angelo de Gubernatis]] wrote in 1872:<ref>{{cite book |last=De Gubernatis |first=Angelo |title=Zoological Mythology |volume=II |date=5 September 2012 |orig-year=1872 |publisher=Project Gutenberg |page=64 |url=http://www.gutenberg.org/files/38688/38688-h/38688-h.htm#Page_64 |access-date=10 November 2019}}</ref>
:In a German belief noticed by {{ill|Ernst Ludwig Rochholz|de|lt=Professor [Ernst Ludwig] Rochholtz}}, two cats that fight against each other are to a sick man an omen of approaching death. These two cats are probably another form of the children's game in [[Piedmont]] and [[Tuscany]], called the game of souls, in which the devil and the angel come to dispute for the soul. Of the two cats, one is probably benignant and the other malignant; they represent perhaps night and twilight. An Irish legend tells us of a combat between cats, in which all the combatants perished, leaving only their tails upon the battlefield. (A similar tradition also exists in Piedmont, but is there, if I am not mistaken, referred to wolves.{{#tag:ref|This may refer to an incident on [[Mont Cenis]] described by [[Marianne Colston]] in 1822: "On the summit we saw a cottage, into which, it being vacant during a time of very deep snow, seven wolves found their way; the snow closing the door they could not escape. Some time after, one wolf was discovered there and the heads of six others, so that it was evident that they had eaten each other, and that the surviving one had proved the strongest."<ref>{{cite book |last1=Colston |first1=Marianne |title=Journal of a Tour in France, Switzerland, and Italy |date=1822 |volume=I |location=Paris |publisher=A. & W. Galignani |pages=60–61 |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=6n9kAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA60 |accessdate=29 November 2019 |language=en |chapter=III; Mount-Cenis}}; see also {{cite journal |title=Review of new books: ''Journal of a Tour in France, Switzerland, and Italy'' |journal=The Literary Gazette and Journal of Belles Lettres, Arts, Sciences, etc. |page=2 |date=4 January 1823 |issue=311 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044015478514&view=1up&seq=10 |accessdate=29 November 2019 |location=London |language=en |quote=On ascending Mont Cenis, there is an animal exploit described, almost equal to that of the Kilkenny Cats}}</ref> |group="n"}}) Two cats that fight for a mouse, and allow it to escape, are also mentioned in Hindoo tradition.
:In a German belief noticed by {{ill|Ernst Ludwig Rochholz|de|lt=Professor [Ernst Ludwig] Rochholtz}}, two cats that fight against each other are to a sick man an omen of approaching death. These two cats are probably another form of the children's game in [[Piedmont]] and [[Tuscany]], called the game of souls, in which the devil and the angel come to dispute for the soul. Of the two cats, one is probably benignant and the other malignant; they represent perhaps night and twilight. An Irish legend tells us of a combat between cats, in which all the combatants perished, leaving only their tails upon the battlefield. (A similar tradition also exists in Piedmont, but is there, if I am not mistaken, referred to wolves.{{#tag:ref|This may refer to an incident on [[Mont Cenis]] described by [[Marianne Colston]] in 1822: "On the summit we saw a cottage, into which, it being vacant during a time of very deep snow, seven wolves found their way; the snow closing the door they could not escape. Some time after, one wolf was discovered there and the heads of six others, so that it was evident that they had eaten each other, and that the surviving one had proved the strongest."<ref>{{cite book |last=Colston |first=Marianne |title=Journal of a Tour in France, Switzerland, and Italy |date=1822 |volume=I |location=Paris |publisher=A. & W. Galignani |pages=60–61 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=6n9kAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA60 |access-date=29 November 2019 |chapter=III; Mount-Cenis}}; see also {{cite journal |title=Review of new books: ''Journal of a Tour in France, Switzerland, and Italy'' |journal=The Literary Gazette and Journal of Belles Lettres, Arts, Sciences, Etc. |page=2 |date=4 January 1823 |issue=311 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044015478514&view=1up&seq=10 |access-date=29 November 2019 |location=London |quote=On ascending Mont Cenis, there is an animal exploit described, almost equal to that of the Kilkenny Cats}}</ref> |group="n"}}) Two cats that fight for a mouse, and allow it to escape, are also mentioned in Hindoo tradition.
[[Moncure Daniel Conway]] built on this in 1879:<ref>{{cite book |last1=Conway |orig-year=1879 |first1=Moncure Daniel |title=Demonology and Devil-lore |date=6 September 2012 |publisher=Project Gutenberg |pages=130–131 |url=http://www.gutenberg.org/files/40686/40686-h/40686-h.htm#v1pb130 |accessdate=10 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref>
[[Moncure Daniel Conway]] built on this in 1879:<ref>{{cite book |last=Conway |first=Moncure Daniel |author-link=Moncure D. Conway |title=Demonology and Devil-lore |url=http://www.gutenberg.org/files/40686/40686-h/40686-h.htm#v1pb130 |orig-year=1879 |publisher=Project Gutenberg |date=6 September 2012 |pages=130–131 |access-date=10 November 2019}}</ref>
:De Gubernatis has a very curious speculation concerning the origin of our familiar fable the Kilkenny Cats, which he traces to the German superstition which dreads the combat between cats as presaging death to one who witnesses it; and this belief he finds reflected in the Tuscan child’s ‘game of souls,’ in which the devil and angel are supposed to contend for the soul. The author thinks this may be one outcome of the contest between Night and Twilight in Mythology; but, if the connection can be traced, it would probably prove to be derived from the struggle between the two angels of Death, one variation of which is associated with the legend of [[Epistle of Jude#Moses|the strife for the body of Moses]]. The [[Book of Enoch]] says that [[Gabriel]] was sent, before the Flood, to excite the man-devouring [[Nephilim|giant]]s to destroy one another. In an ancient Persian picture in my possession, animal monsters are shown devouring each other, while their proffered victim, [[Daniel in the lions' den|like Daniel]], is unharmed. The idea is a natural one, and hardly requires comparative tracing.
:De Gubernatis has a very curious speculation concerning the origin of our familiar fable the Kilkenny Cats, which he traces to the German superstition which dreads the combat between cats as presaging death to one who witnesses it; and this belief he finds reflected in the Tuscan child’s ‘game of souls,’ in which the devil and angel are supposed to contend for the soul. The author thinks this may be one outcome of the contest between Night and Twilight in Mythology; but, if the connection can be traced, it would probably prove to be derived from the struggle between the two angels of Death, one variation of which is associated with the legend of [[Epistle of Jude#Moses|the strife for the body of Moses]]. The [[Book of Enoch]] says that [[Gabriel]] was sent, before the Flood, to excite the man-devouring [[Nephilim|giant]]s to destroy one another. In an ancient Persian picture in my possession, animal monsters are shown devouring each other, while their proffered victim, [[Daniel in the lions' den|like Daniel]], is unharmed. The idea is a natural one, and hardly requires comparative tracing.
[[Carl Van Vechten]] in 1922 was sceptical:<ref>{{cite book |last1=Van Vechten |first1=Carl |title=The Tiger in the House |date=1922 |publisher=Bartleby |page=note 4 |nopp=y |chapterurl=https://www.bartleby.com/234/5.html#note4 |accessdate=10 November 2019 |chapter=Chapter Five. The Cat in Folklore.}}</ref>
[[Carl Van Vechten]] in 1922 was sceptical:<ref>{{cite book |last=Van Vechten |first=Carl |author-link=Carl Van Vechten |title=The Tiger in the House |date=1922 |publisher=Bartleby |page=note 4 |no-pp=y |chapter-url=https://www.bartleby.com/234/5.html#note4 |access-date=10 November 2019 |chapter=Chapter Five. The Cat in Folklore.}}</ref>
:Angelo de Gubernatis, too, is infected with this familiar and somewhat silly method of trying to explain all folk-stories symbolically. In “Zoological Mythology, or the Legends of Animals, he gives it as his belief that the celebrated fable of the Kilkenny Cats may mean the mythological contest between night and twilight. God pity these men!
:Angelo de Gubernatis, too, is infected with this familiar and somewhat silly method of trying to explain all folk-stories symbolically. In "Zoological Mythology, or the Legends of Animals," he gives it as his belief that the celebrated fable of the Kilkenny Cats may mean the mythological contest between night and twilight. God pity these men!


"R.C." in 1874 suggested a comparison with an [[epigram]] by [[Palladas]] from the ''[[Greek Anthology]]'':<ref>{{cite journal |last1=R. C. |title=The Kilkenny cats |journal=Notes and Queries |date=17 January 1874 |url=https://archive.org/details/notesqueries5111unse/page/46 |volume=s.5 v.1 |issue=3 |page=46 |doi=10.1093/nq/s5-I.3.46d}}; citing {{cite book |last1=Brodeau |first1=Jean |title=Epigrammatum Graecorum |volume=VII |date=1600 |publisher=Wechel |location=Frankfurt |page=227 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=RKRCAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA227 |accessdate=20 November 2019 |language=el, la}}; translation from {{cite book |last1=Paton |first1=William Roger |title=Greek Anthology IV |date=1918 |publisher=Loeb Classical Library |volume=85 |pages=238–239 |url=https://archive.org/details/L085GreekAnthologyIV10HortatoryAdmonitoryConvivialSatiricalEpigramsStratoMusaPuerilis/page/n257 |accessdate=20 November 2019 |language=el, en |chapter=Book 11: Convivial & Satirical Epigrams; No.357—Palladas |chapterurl=https://www.loebclassics.com/view/greek_anthology_11/1918/pb_LCL085.239.xml}}</ref>
"R.C." in 1874 suggested a comparison with an [[epigram]] by [[Palladas]] from the ''[[Greek Anthology]]'':<ref>{{cite journal |author=R.C. |title=The Kilkenny cats |journal=Notes and Queries |date=17 January 1874 |url=https://archive.org/details/notesqueries5111unse/page/46 |volume=s.5 v.1 |issue=3 |page=46 |doi=10.1093/nq/s5-I.3.46d}}; citing {{cite book |last=Brodeau |first=Jean |title=Epigrammatum Graecorum |volume=VII |date=1600 |publisher=Wechel |location=Frankfurt |page=227 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=RKRCAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA227 |access-date=20 November 2019 |language=el, la}}; translation from {{cite book |last=Paton |first=William Roger |title=Greek Anthology IV |date=1918 |publisher=Loeb Classical Library |volume=85 |pages=238–239 |url=https://archive.org/details/L085GreekAnthologyIV10HortatoryAdmonitoryConvivialSatiricalEpigramsStratoMusaPuerilis/page/n257 |access-date=20 November 2019 |language=el, en |chapter=Book 11: Convivial & Satirical Epigrams; No.357—Palladas |chapter-url=https://www.loebclassics.com/view/greek_anthology_11/1918/pb_LCL085.239.xml}}</ref>
:A son and father started a competitive contest as to which could eat up all the property by spending most, and after devouring absolutely all the money they have at last each other to eat up.
:A son and father started a competitive contest as to which could eat up all the property by spending most, and after devouring absolutely all the money they have at last each other to eat up.


[[Archer Taylor]] suggested the Kilkenny cats "may involve an old story with parallels in Icelandic saga";<ref>{{cite book |last1=Taylor |first1=Archer |title=The Proverb |date=1931 |number=131 |page=192 |publisher=Harvard University Press |language=en}}</ref> in the [[Bandamanna saga]], Ofeig says, "And with me it has fared after the fashion of wolves, who eat each other up until they come to the tail, not knowing till then what they are about".<ref>{{cite web |title=The Story of the Confederates |url=https://sagadb.org/bandamanna_saga.en2#10 |website=Icelandic Saga Database |publisher=Sveinbjorn Thordarson |accessdate=11 November 2019 |page=Chapter 10 |nopp=y |language=en |date=1882 |first=John |last=Coles}}</ref>
[[Archer Taylor]] suggested the Kilkenny cats "may involve an old story with parallels in Icelandic saga";<ref>{{cite book |last=Taylor |first=Archer |title=The Proverb |date=1931 |number=131 |page=192 |publisher=Harvard University Press}}</ref> in the [[Bandamanna saga]], Ofeig says, "And with me it has fared after the fashion of wolves, who eat each other up until they come to the tail, not knowing till then what they are about".<ref>{{cite web |title=The Story of the Confederates |url=https://sagadb.org/bandamanna_saga.en2#10 |website=Icelandic Saga Database |publisher=Sveinbjorn Thordarson |access-date=11 November 2019 |page=Chapter 10 |no-pp=y |date=1882 |first=John |last=Coles}}</ref>


The cat with two tails, a [[stonemason]]'s carving associated with the [[Gobán Saor]] in [[Irish folklore]], is sometimes conflated with the Kilkenny cats.<ref>{{cite journal |title=Cearbhall Ó Dálaigh as Craftsman and Trickster |first=James E. |last=Doan |journal=Béaloideas |volume=50 |date=1982 |pages=54–89: 60 |publisher=Folklore of Ireland Society |jstor=20522186 |doi=10.2307/20522186 }}</ref>
The cat with two tails, a [[stonemason]]'s carving associated with the [[Gobán Saor]] in [[Irish folklore]], is sometimes conflated with the Kilkenny cats.<ref>{{cite journal |title=Cearbhall Ó Dálaigh as Craftsman and Trickster |first=James E. |last=Doan |journal=Béaloideas |volume=50 |date=1982 |pages=54–89: 60 |publisher=Folklore of Ireland Society |jstor=20522186 |doi=10.2307/20522186}}</ref>


Steven Connor comments, "Because they involve bodily illogic ... in which a body is imagined as simultaneously present and absent, [[You can't have your cake and eat it|the cake both eaten and miraculously intact]], the fact of death is often in play in Irish bulls".<ref name="Connor2017"/>
Steven Connor comments, "Because they involve bodily illogic ... in which a body is imagined as simultaneously present and absent, [[You can't have your cake and eat it|the cake both eaten and miraculously intact]], the fact of death is often in play in Irish bulls".<ref name="Connor2017"/>


In the 1930s the [[Irish Folklore Commission]] collected two origin stories:
In the 1930s the [[Irish Folklore Commission]] collected two origin stories:
* From Mrs Maher, Tulla, [[Threecastles, County Kilkenny|Threecastles]], County Kilkenny, aged 87:<ref>{{cite web |author=Mrs Maher |others=collected by Alice Mullan |title=The Kilkenny Cats |url=https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4742030/4729663/4936004 |website=The Schools’ Collection |accessdate=11 November 2019 |location=Ballydaniel |language=en |date=11 January 1939}}</ref>
* From Mrs Maher, Tulla, [[Threecastles, County Kilkenny|Threecastles]], County Kilkenny, aged 87:<ref>{{cite web |author=Mrs Maher |others=collected by Alice Mullan |title=The Kilkenny Cats |url=https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4742030/4729663/4936004 |website=The Schools’ Collection |access-date=11 November 2019 |location=Ballydaniel |date=11 January 1939}}</ref>
*:One day a lady visitor came to Kilkenny Castle and brought with her three fat mice. The owner of the Castle never noticed anything until the place was full of mice. There were mice everywhere. They advertised for cats. Soon the castle was full of cats. The is how Kilkenny got the name "Kilkenny Cats."
*:One day a lady visitor came to Kilkenny Castle and brought with her three fat mice. The owner of the Castle never noticed anything until the place was full of mice. There were mice everywhere. They advertised for cats. Soon the castle was full of cats. The is how Kilkenny got the name "Kilkenny Cats".
* From Edward Quinn, Barrettsgrange, [[County Tipperary]]:<ref>{{cite web |last1=Quinn |first1=Edward |title=Hurling and Football Matches |url=https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4922224/4862309/5021440 |website=The Schools’ Collection |accessdate=11 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref>
* From Edward Quinn, Barrettsgrange, [[County Tipperary]]:<ref>{{cite web |last=Quinn |first=Edward |title=Hurling and Football Matches |url=https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4922224/4862309/5021440 |website=The Schools’ Collection |access-date=11 November 2019}}</ref>
*:In ancient times a team of Tipperary men visited Kilkenny to play a team of Kilkennymen at [[Gaelic football|football]]. The Tipperarymen were winning, and advancing towards the Kilkenny–Tipperary border, when they were attacked by Kilkennymen and women, who fought like cats. The Tipperary followers retaliated, and picked up field stones and hurled them at their opponents, who had to retreat, the Tipperary team then being enabled to take the ball into their own territory.
*:In ancient times a team of Tipperary men visited Kilkenny to play a team of Kilkennymen at [[Gaelic football|football]]. The Tipperarymen were winning, and advancing towards the Kilkenny–Tipperary border, when they were attacked by Kilkennymen and women, who fought like cats. The Tipperary followers retaliated, and picked up field stones and hurled them at their opponents, who had to retreat, the Tipperary team then being enabled to take the ball into their own territory.
*:Ever afterwards the term "stonethrowers" was applied to Tipperary and "Kilkenny cats" to Kilkenny.
*:Ever afterwards the term "stonethrowers" was applied to Tipperary and "Kilkenny cats" to Kilkenny.
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===Verse and song===
===Verse and song===
Several poems have been written about the Kilkenny cats; the best known<ref>
Several poems have been written about the Kilkenny cats; the best known<ref>
{{cite book |last1=Brown |first1=Marshall |title=Sayings that Never Grow Old: Wit and Humour of Well-known Quotations |chapter=Kilkenny Cats |chapter-url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uva.x000364192&view=1up&seq=175 |accessdate=24 November 2019 |date=1918 |publisher=Small, Maynard |page=145 |language=en}};
{{cite book |last=Brown |first=Marshall |title=Sayings that Never Grow Old: Wit and Humour of Well-known Quotations |chapter=Kilkenny Cats |chapter-url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uva.x000364192&view=1up&seq=175 |access-date=24 November 2019 |date=1918 |publisher=Small, Maynard |page=145}};
{{cite book |last1=Woods |first1=Ralph Louis |title=A treasury of the familiar |date=1942 |publisher=Macmillan |location=New York |page=682 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/treasuryoffamili00wood/page/682 |chapter-url-access=registration |accessdate=26 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}};
{{cite book |last=Woods |first=Ralph Louis |title=A treasury of the familiar |date=1942 |publisher=Macmillan |location=New York |page=682 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/treasuryoffamili00wood/page/682 |chapter-url-access=registration |access-date=26 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}};
{{cite book |last1=Wren |first1=Christopher S. |title=The Cat Who Covered the World: The Adventures Of Henrietta And Her Foreign Correspondent |date=2001 |publisher=Simon and Schuster |isbn=978-0-7432-2276-1 |page=70 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=v9OTX4nAyq0C&pg=PA70 |accessdate=21 November 2019 |language=en |quote=a familiar limerick}}
{{cite book |last=Wren |first=Christopher S. |title=The Cat Who Covered the World: The Adventures Of Henrietta And Her Foreign Correspondent |date=2001 |publisher=Simon and Schuster |isbn=978-0-7432-2276-1 |page=[https://archive.org/details/catwhocoveredwor00wren/page/70 70] |url=https://archive.org/details/catwhocoveredwor00wren |url-access=registration |access-date=21 November 2019 |quote=a familiar limerick}}
</ref> appeared in November 1867 in New York in ''[[The Galaxy (magazine)|The Galaxy]]'', along with a grandiloquent literary commentary extolling it as "the Kilkenny epic" and comparing its "unknown author" to [[Homer]]:<ref>{{cite journal |title=Nebulae |journal=[[The Galaxy (magazine)|The Galaxy]] |via=HathiTrust |date=November 1867 |volume=4 |pages=878–884: 881–883 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo.31924079597096&view=2up&seq=903 |accessdate=8 November 2019 |publisher=[[William Conant Church|W.C.]] & [[Francis Pharcellus Church|F.P. Church]] |location=New York |language=en}}</ref>
</ref> appeared in November 1867 in New York in ''[[The Galaxy (magazine)|The Galaxy]]'', along with a grandiloquent literary commentary extolling it as "the Kilkenny epic" and comparing its "unknown author" to [[Homer]]:<ref>{{cite journal |title=Nebulae |journal=[[The Galaxy (magazine)|The Galaxy]] |via=HathiTrust |date=November 1867 |volume=4 |pages=878–884: 881–883 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=coo.31924079597096&view=2up&seq=903 |access-date=8 November 2019 |publisher=[[William Conant Church|W.C.]] & [[Francis Pharcellus Church|F.P. Church]] |location=New York}}</ref>
{{poemquote|
{{poemquote|
There wonst was two cats in Kilkenny;
There wonst was two cats in Kilkenny;
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Till, excepting their tails
Till, excepting their tails
And some scraps of their nails,
And some scraps of their nails,
Instead of two cats there wan’t any.
Instead of two cats there wan't any.
}}
}}
This is often reduced to a [[Limerick (poem)|limerick]] by omitting "excepting their tails and some scraps of their nails".<ref>{{cite journal |title=Drama |journal=Harper's Weekly |first=John |last=Corbin |date=4 February 1899 |volume=43 |number=2198 |location=New York |page=115 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000020241155&view=1up&seq=123 |access-date=24 November 2019}}; {{cite book |last1=Webster |first1=Noah |author1-link=Noah Webster |last2=Russell |first2=Thomas Herbert |title=Webster's reliable dictionary for home, school and office |date=1911 |publisher=Saalfield |location=Akron, OH |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/webstersreliable00webs/page/118 |access-date=24 November 2019 |chapter=Familiar Allusions}}; {{cite book |last1=Brewton |first1=Sara Westbrook |last2=Brewton |first2=John Edmund |last3=Fetz |first3=Ingrid |title=Laughable limericks |date=1965 |publisher=Crowell |location=New York |url=https://archive.org/details/laughablelimeric00brew |page=[https://archive.org/details/laughablelimeric00brew/page/19 19] |url-access=registration|via=Internet Archive |access-date=24 November 2019}}; {{cite book |last=Butler |first=Tony |title=Best Irish limericks |date=1970 |publisher=Wolfe |location=London |series=The Mini Ha-Ha Joke Books |page=[https://archive.org/details/bestirishlimeric00butl/page/35 35] |url=https://archive.org/details/bestirishlimeric00butl |url-access=registration |access-date=24 November 2019 |isbn=0723401675}}; {{cite book |last=Lancelyn Green |first=Roger |author-link=Roger Lancelyn Green |title=A century of humorous verse, 1850–1950 |date=1973 |series=[[Everyman's Library]] |volume=813 |publisher=Dutton |location=New York |isbn=0460008137 |page=[https://archive.org/details/centuryofhumorou00roge/page/287 287] |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/centuryofhumorou00roge/page/287 |chapter-url-access=registration |chapter=Limericks |url=https://archive.org/details/centuryofhumorou00roge/page/287}}; {{cite book |last=Harrowven |first=Jean |title=The limerick makers |date=2004 |orig-year=1976 |publisher=Borrowdale Press |isbn=978-0-9540349-3-1 |page=56}}; {{cite book |last=Saltman |first=Judith |title=The Riverside Anthology of Children's Literature |date=1985 |publisher=Houghton Mifflin |isbn=978-0-395-35773-6 |page=75 No. 22}}</ref> With standardised spelling it has been included in 20th-century [[Mother Goose]] anthologies.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Baring-Gould |first1=William Stuart |author1-link=William S. Baring-Gould |last2=Baring-Gould |first2=Cecil |title=The annotated Mother Goose: nursery rhymes old and new |date=1962 |publisher=Bramhall House |location=New York |page=[https://archive.org/details/annotatedmotherg00bari/page/315 315] |url=https://archive.org/details/annotatedmotherg00bari |url-access=registration |via=Internet Archive |access-date=23 November 2019}}; {{cite book |date=1905 |last1=Bailey |first1=Carolyn Sherwin |last2=Newell |first2=Peter |title=The Peter Newell Mother Goose; the old rhymes reproduced in connection with their veracious history |publisher=H. Holt |location=New York |page=[https://archive.org/details/peternewellmothe00bail/page/145 145] |url=https://archive.org/details/peternewellmothe00bail |access-date=24 November 2019}}; {{cite book |date=1909 |last=Betts |first=Ethel Franklin |title=The complete Mother Goose |publisher=A. Stokes |location=New York |page=[https://archive.org/details/completemotherg00bettgoog/page/n140 92] |url=https://archive.org/details/completemotherg00bettgoog |access-date=24 November 2019}}; {{cite book |date=1911 |last=Johnson |first=Clifton |title=Mother Goose rhymes |publisher=Baker & Taylor |location=New York |page=150 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/mothergooserhyme00john/page/150 |access-date=24 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}}; {{cite book |date=1913 |last=Rackham |first=Arthur |title=Mother Goose: the old nursery rhymes |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951000895236l&seq=244 |publisher=Century |location=New York |page=226 |access-date=23 November 2019}}; {{cite book |date=1920 |last1=Smith |first1=Elmer Boyd |last2=Elmendorf |first2=Lawrence |title=The Boyd Smith Mother Goose |publisher=G.P. Putnam's Sons |location=New York |page=44 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/boydsmithmothergsmit/page/44 |access-date=23 November 2019 |chapter=There Were Two Cats}}; {{cite book |last=Wright |first=Blanche Fisher |title=The Real Mother Goose |date=April 1991 |publisher=Checkerboard Press |location=New York |page=[https://archive.org/details/realmothergoose00blan/page/87 87] |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/realmothergoose00blan/page/87 |isbn=1-56288-041-1 |orig-year=1944 |access-date=23 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats |url=https://archive.org/details/realmothergoose00blan/page/87}}</ref> The full version has been set to music by [[Beth Anderson (composer)|Beth Anderson]] and performed on her 2004 album ''Quilt Music'' by Keith Borden and [[H. Johannes Wallmann]]. It was also set by [[W. Otto Miessner]] for gradeschool [[music lesson]]s,<ref>{{cite book |last1=Parker |first1=Horatio W. (Horatio William) |last2=McConathy |first2=Osbourne |last3=Birge |first3=Edward B. (Edward Bailey) |last4=Miessner |first4=W. Otto (William Otto) |title=Teacher's manual for the Progressive music series |date=1918 |publisher=Dept. of State Printing |location=Sacramento, CA |pages=[https://archive.org/details/teachersmanualfo01park/page/79 79], 1 287 |url=https://archive.org/details/teachersmanualfo01park |access-date=26 November 2019}}</ref> and arranged for six voices by [[Jean Berger]] as "There Were Two Cats at Kilkenny".<ref>{{cite book |first=Jean |last=Berger |chapter=There were two cats at Kilkenny |title=Airs and Rounds |oclc=43255859 |date=1966 |publisher=Broude Bros. |id=BB 4054}}</ref> [[James Barr Walker]] published an expanded version in 1871.<ref name="walker1871">{{cite book |last=Walker |first=James Barr |title=Poetry of reason and conscience. Immortality and worth of the soul: Ten scenes in the life of a lady of fashion; and miscellaneous pieces |date=1871 |publisher=H. A. Sumner |location=Chicago |pages=208–209 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/poetryofreasonco00walk/page/208 |access-date=24 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats –– Expanded}}</ref>{{#tag:ref|Walker's version written for a school recital for his adopted son James Benzonia "Bennie" Walker (1862–1891).<ref name="walker1871"/><ref>[https://archive.org/details/poetryofreasonco00walk/page/121 Walker 1871 p.121] "Of our seven adopted children, ... [t]wo are still with us —a young woman of eighteen, and a little boy of eight years."; {{cite journal |last=Graves |first=Samantha |title=What's In A Name? Stories behind the names of Benzie County |journal=Betsie Current |date=August 2015 |volume=IV |issue=6 |page=6 |url=http://betsiecurrent.com/Issues/Betsie%20Current%20Issue%206%20Volume%20IV%20July%2030%202015-small.pdf#page=6 |access-date=24 November 2019 |format=PDF |quote=Walker, whose adopted son’s name was James Benzonia Walker and whose grandson’s name was also James Benzonia Walker}}</ref>
This is often reduced to a [[limerick (poem)|limerick]] by omitting "excepting their tails and some scraps of their nails".<ref>
{{cite journal |title=Drama |journal=Harper's Weekly |first=John |last=Corbin |date=4 February 1899 |volume=43 |number=2198 |location=New York |page=115 |language=en |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=pst.000020241155&view=1up&seq=123 |accessdate=24 November 2019 }};
{{cite book |last1=Webster |first1=Noah |last2=Russell |first2=Thomas Herbert |title=Webster's reliable dictionary for home, school and office |date=1911 |publisher=Saalfield |location=Akron, Ohio |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/webstersreliable00webs/page/118 |accessdate=24 November 2019 |chapter=Familiar Allusions}};
{{cite book |last1=Brewton |first1=Sara Westbrook |last2=Brewton |first2=John Edmund |last3=Fetz |first3=Ingrid |title=Laughable limericks |date=1965 |publisher=Crowell |location=New York |url=https://archive.org/details/laughablelimeric00brew/page/19 |page=19 |url-access=registration|via=Internet Archive |accessdate=24 November 2019}};
{{cite book |last1=Butler |first1=Tony |title=Best Irish limericks |date=1970 |publisher=Wolfe |location=London |series=The Mini Ha-Ha Joke Books |page=35 |url=https://archive.org/details/bestirishlimeric00butl/page/35 |url-access=registration |accessdate=24 November 2019 |isbn=0723401675}};
{{cite book |last1=Green |first1=Roger Lancelyn |title=A century of humorous verse, 1850–1950 |date=1973 |series=[[Everyman's Library]] |volume=813 |publisher=Dutton |location=New York |isbn=0460008137 |page=287 |chapterurl=https://archive.org/details/centuryofhumorou00roge/page/287 |chapter-url-access=registration |chapter=Limericks}};
{{cite book |last1=Harrowven |first1=Jean |title=The limerick makers |date=2004 |orig-year=1976 |publisher=Borrowdale Press |isbn=978-0-9540349-3-1 |page=56 |language=en }}; {{cite book |last1=Saltman |first1=Judith |title=The Riverside Anthology of Children's Literature |date=1985 |publisher=Houghton Mifflin |isbn=978-0-395-35773-6 |page=75 No. 22 |language=en}}
</ref> With standardised spelling it has been included in 20th-century [[Mother Goose]] anthologies.<ref>
{{cite book |last1=Baring-Gould |first1=William Stuart |last2=Baring-Gould |first2=Cecil |title=The annotated Mother Goose : nursery rhymes old and new |date=1962 |publisher=Bramhall House |location=New York |page=315 |url=https://archive.org/details/annotatedmotherg00bari/page/315 |url-access=registration |via=Internet Archive |accessdate=23 November 2019}};
{{cite book |date=1905 |last1=Bailey |first1=Carolyn Sherwin |last2=Newell |first2=Peter |title=The Peter Newell Mother Goose; the old rhymes reproduced in connection with their veracious history |publisher=H. Holt |location=New York |page=145 |url=https://archive.org/details/peternewellmothe00bail/page/145 |accessdate=24 November 2019}};
{{cite book |date=1909 |last1=Betts |first1=Ethel Franklin |title=The complete Mother Goose |publisher=A. Stokes |location=New York |page=92 |url=https://archive.org/details/completemotherg00bettgoog/page/n140 |accessdate=24 November 2019}};
{{cite book |date=1911 |last1=Johnson |first1=Clifton |title=Mother Goose rhymes |publisher=Baker & Taylor |location=New York |page=150 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/mothergooserhyme00john/page/150 |accessdate=24 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}};
{{cite book |date=1913 |last1=Rackham |first1=Arthur |title=Mother Goose: the old nursery rhymes |publisher=Century |location=New York |page=226 |url=https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951000895236l&seq=244 |accessdate=23 November 2019}};
{{cite book |date=1920 |last1=Smith |first1=Elmer Boyd |last2=Elmendorf |first2=Lawrence |title=The Boyd Smith Mother Goose |publisher=G.P. Putnam's Sons |location=New York |page=44 |chapterurl=https://archive.org/details/boydsmithmothergsmit/page/44 |accessdate=23 November 2019 |chapter=There Were Two Cats}};
{{cite book |last1=Wright |first1=Blanche Fisher |title=The Real Mother Goose |date=April 1991 |publisher=Checkerboard Press |location=New York |page=87 |chapterurl=https://archive.org/details/realmothergoose00blan/page/87 |isbn=1-56288-041-1 |orig-year=1944 |accessdate=23 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}}
</ref> The full version has been set to music by [[Beth Anderson (composer)|Beth Anderson]] and performed on her 2004 album ''Quilt Music'' by Keith Borden and [[H. Johannes Wallmann]]. It was also set by [[W. Otto Miessner]] for gradeschool [[music education|music lessons]],<ref>{{cite book |last1=Parker |first1=Horatio W. (Horatio William) |last2=McConathy |first2=Osbourne |last3=Birge |first3=Edward B. (Edward Bailey) |last4=Miessner |first4=W. Otto (William Otto) |title=Teacher's manual for the Progressive music series |date=1918 |publisher=Dept. of State Printing |location=Sacramento |pages=79, 179, 287 |url=https://archive.org/details/teachersmanualfo01park/page/179 |accessdate=26 November 2019}}</ref> and arranged for six voices by [[Jean Berger]] as "There Were Two Cats at Kilkenny".<ref>{{cite book |first=Jean |last=Berger |chapter=There were two cats at Kilkenny |title=Airs and Rounds |oclc=43255859 |date=1966 |publisher=Broude Bros. |id=BB 4054 |language=English}}</ref> [[James Barr Walker]] published an expanded version in 1871.<ref name="walker1871">{{cite book |last1=Walker |first1=James Barr |title=Poetry of reason and conscience. Immortality and worth of the soul: Ten scenes in the life of a lady of fashion; and miscellaneous pieces |date=1871 |publisher=H. A. Sumner |location=Chicago |pages=208–209 |chapterurl=https://archive.org/details/poetryofreasonco00walk/page/208 |accessdate=24 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats –– Expanded}}</ref>{{#tag:ref|Walker's version written for a school recital for his adopted son James Benzonia "Bennie" Walker (1862–1891).<ref name="walker1871"/><ref>[https://archive.org/details/poetryofreasonco00walk/page/121 Walker 1871 p.121] "Of our seven adopted children, ... [t]wo are still with us —a young woman of eighteen, and a little boy of eight years." ; {{cite journal |last1=Graves |first1=Samantha |title=What's In A Name? Stories behind the names of Benzie County |journal=Betsie Current |date=August 2015 |volume=IV |issue=6 |page=6 |url=http://betsiecurrent.com/Issues/Betsie%20Current%20Issue%206%20Volume%20IV%20July%2030%202015-small.pdf#page=6 |accessdate=24 November 2019 |format=PDF |quote=Walker, whose adopted son’s name was James Benzonia Walker and whose grandson’s name was also James Benzonia Walker}}; {{cite web |title=James Benzonia Walker |url=https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/36874895/james-benzonia-walker |website=findagrave.com |accessdate=24 November 2019}}</ref>
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[[File:Raisd such a gust Of yowls growls hair shrieks smoke and dust etc - D.C. Johnston 1824.jpg|thumb|[[David Claypoole Johnston]] illustration for Mack's "The Cat-Fight" (1824)]]
[[File:Raisd such a gust Of yowls growls hair shrieks smoke and dust etc - D.C. Johnston 1824.jpg|thumb|[[David Claypoole Johnston]] illustration for Mack's "The Cat-Fight" (1824)]]
[[Ebenezer Mack]]'s 1824 poem "The Cat-Fight" is a [[stage Irish]] [[mock-heroic]] dialogue in which Jemmy O'Kain tells Pat M'Hone or Mahone that none of the great battles from myth and history compare to the one he witnessed "in Kilkenny, down the [[Mole (architecture)|mole]]" between "two Grimalkins", at the end of which "... not the tip end of a tail, / Was there / Left for a token." <ref>{{cite book |last1=Mack |first1=Ebenezer |title=The Cat-Fight; a Mock Heroic Poem, Supported with Copious Extracts from Ancient and Modern Classic Authors |date=1824 |location=New York |pages=13–142 [''esp.'' 115–135] |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=f6pcAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA115 |accessdate=27 November 2019 |language=en |chapter=The Cat-Fight}}; {{cite journal |title=The Review: The Cat-Fight |journal=New-York Mirror, and Ladies' Literary Gazette |date=30 October 1824 |volume=II |issue=14 |pages=110–111 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=J8FCAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA110 |accessdate=27 November 2019 |publisher=G. P. Morris |language=en}}</ref>
[[Ebenezer Mack]]'s 1824 poem "The Cat-Fight" is a [[stage Irish]] [[mock-heroic]] dialogue in which Jemmy O'Kain tells Pat M'Hone or Mahone that none of the great battles from myth and history compare to the one he witnessed "in Kilkenny, down the [[Mole (architecture)|mole]]" between "two Grimalkins", at the end of which "... not the tip end of a tail, / Was there / Left for a token."<ref>{{cite book |last=Mack |first=Ebenezer |title=The Cat-Fight; a Mock Heroic Poem, Supported with Copious Extracts from Ancient and Modern Classic Authors |date=1824 |location=New York |pages=13–142 [''esp.'' 115–135] |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=f6pcAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA115 |access-date=27 November 2019 |chapter=The Cat-Fight}}; {{cite journal |title=The Review: The Cat-Fight |journal=New-York Mirror, and Ladies' Literary Gazette |date=30 October 1824 |volume=II |issue=14 |pages=110–111 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=J8FCAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA110 |access-date=27 November 2019 |publisher=G. P. Morris}}</ref>


In [[Cruikshank's Omnibus|Cruikshank's ''Omnibus'']] in 1841 was printed "The Terrific Legend Of The Kilkenny Cats" by "C.B."; a 24-line poem in which there are six tomcats, owned and underfed by a drunk woman named O'Flyn; they resolve to kill and eat her, then turn on each other.<ref>{{cite book |chapter=The Terrific Legend Of The Kilkenny Cats |first=C. |last=B. |editor-last1=Cruikshank |editor-first1=George |year=1841 |page=128 |title=Omnibus |publisher=Project Gutenberg |chapterurl=https://www.gutenberg.org/files/47400/47400-h/47400-h.htm#LEGEND_OF_THE_KILKENNY_CATS |accessdate=6 November 2019}}</ref> A musical setting by Barry <!-- not [[Barry Kay]] --> Kay was recorded in 1951 by [[Benny Lee]].<ref>{{cite web |last1=Lee |first1=Benny |author2=The Stargazers |author3=Nat Temple and His Orchestra |last4=Kay |first4=Barry |title=Kilkenny Cats |url=https://archive.org/details/78_kilkenny-cats_benny-lee-the-stargazers-nat-temple-and-his-orchestra-barry-kay_gbia0069928a/Kilkenny+Cats+-+Benny+Lee+-+The+Stargazers.flac |publisher=London |accessdate=20 November 2019 |language=English |date=1951}}</ref> The poem also appeared on ''Islands Of The Moon'', a 1981 [[spoken word album]] of [[poetry for children]] by the [[Barrow Poets]].
In [[Cruikshank's Omnibus|Cruikshank's ''Omnibus'']] in 1841 was printed "The Terrific Legend Of The Kilkenny Cats" by "C.B."; a 24-line poem in which there are six tomcats, owned and underfed by a drunk woman named O'Flyn; they resolve to kill and eat her, then turn on each other.<ref>{{cite book |author=C.B. |chapter=The Terrific Legend Of The Kilkenny Cats |chapter-url=https://www.gutenberg.org/files/47400/47400-h/47400-h.htm#LEGEND_OF_THE_KILKENNY_CATS |editor-last=Cruikshank |editor-first=George |editor-link=George Cruikshank |title=Omnibus |year=1841 |page=128 |publisher=Project Gutenberg |access-date=6 November 2019}}</ref> A musical setting by Barry <!-- not [[Barry Kay]] --> Kay was recorded in 1951 by [[Benny Lee]].<ref>{{cite web |last1=Lee |first1=Benny |author2=The Stargazers |author3=Nat Temple and His Orchestra |last4=Kay |first4=Barry |title=Kilkenny Cats |url=https://archive.org/details/78_kilkenny-cats_benny-lee-the-stargazers-nat-temple-and-his-orchestra-barry-kay_gbia0069928a/Kilkenny+Cats+-+Benny+Lee+-+The+Stargazers.flac |publisher=London |access-date=20 November 2019 |date=1951}}</ref> The poem also appeared on ''Islands Of The Moon'', a 1981 [[spoken word album]] of [[poetry for children]] by the [[Barrow Poets]].


The 1893 collection ''Irish Songs and Ballads'', with words by [[Alfred Perceval Graves]] and music by [[Charles Villiers Stanford]], included "The Kilkenny Cats", in which the cats resort to cannibalism after "the [[game laws|Game Laws]] came in", stopping them from hunting wild animals.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Graves |first1=Alfred Perceval |last2=Stanford |first2=Charles Villiers |title=Irish Songs and Ballads |date=1893 |publisher=Novello, Ewer |location=London |pages=73–76 |chapterurl=https://archive.org/details/irishsongsandba00stangoog/page/n90 |accessdate=20 November 2019 |language=English |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}}</ref> [[Allen Doone]] published an original song in 1916 called "The Kilkenny Cats" based on the Juverna story.<ref>{{cite web |last1=Doone |first1=Allen |title=The Kilkenny cats [music] |url=https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-177908039/view?partId=nla.obj-177908047 |website=nla.gov.au |accessdate=20 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref> Other poetic adaptations include "The Kilkenny Legend" (Harvey Austin Fuller, 1873);<ref>{{cite book |last1=Fuller |first1=Harvey Austin |editor-last1=Downey |editor-first1= John Florin |title=Trimsharp's account of himself : a sketch of his life, together with a brief history of the education of the blind, and their achievements, to which is added a collection of poems composed by himself |date=1999 |orig-year=1873 |publisher=American Verse Project |location=University of Michigan |pages=125–126 |chapterurl=https://quod.lib.umich.edu/a/amverse/BAR7162.0001.001?rgn=main;view=fulltext#P123 |accessdate=7 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Legend}}</ref> "The Kilkenny Cats" (Anne L. Huber, 1873);<ref>{{cite book |title=The nursery rattle for little folks |first=Anne L. |last=Huber |location=Philadelphia |publisher=Claxton, Remsen, and Haffelfinger |date=1873 |pages=90–91 |chapterurl=https://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00026958/00001/102j |accessdate=11 November 2019 |language=en |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}}; {{cite book |last1=Kilcup |first1=Karen L. |last2=Sorby |first2=Angela |title=Over the River and Through the Wood: An Anthology of Nineteenth-Century American Children's Poetry |date=2014 |publisher=JHU Press |isbn=9781421411408 |page=217 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=kf8mAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA217 |accessdate=11 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref> "The Kilkenny Cats" (Laurence Winfield Scott, 1880);<ref>{{cite book |last1=Scott |first1=Laurence [W]infield |title=The Mooted Question, and other rhymes |date=1880 |publisher=John Burns |location=St. Louis |pages=68–76 |chapterurl=https://archive.org/details/mootedquestionot00scot/page/68 |accessdate=26 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}}</ref> "The Cats av Kilkenny" (Charles Anthony Doyle, 1911).<ref>{{cite book |last1=Doyle |first1=Charles Anthony |title=Character Sketches in Rhyme and Other Verses |date=1911 |publisher=Western |location=San Francisco |pages=84–86 |chapterurl=https://archive.org/details/charactersketch00doylrich/page/n91 |accessdate=11 November 2019 |chapter=The Cats av Kilkenny }}</ref>
The 1893 collection ''Irish Songs and Ballads'', with words by [[Alfred Perceval Graves]] and music by [[Charles Villiers Stanford]], included "The Kilkenny Cats", in which the cats resort to cannibalism after "the [[Game Laws]] came in", stopping them from hunting wild animals.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Graves |first1=Alfred Perceval |last2=Stanford |first2=Charles Villiers |title=Irish Songs and Ballads |date=1893 |publisher=Novello, Ewer |location=London |pages=73–76 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/irishsongsandba00stangoog/page/n90 |access-date=20 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}}</ref> [[Allen Doone]] published an original song in 1916 called "The Kilkenny Cats" based on the Juverna story.<ref>{{cite web |last=Doone |first=Allen |title=The Kilkenny cats [music] |url=https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-177908039/view?partId=nla.obj-177908047 |website=nla.gov.au |access-date=20 November 2019}}</ref> Other poetic adaptations include "The Kilkenny Legend" (Harvey Austin Fuller, 1873);<ref>{{cite book |last=Fuller |first=Harvey Austin |editor-last=Downey |editor-first=John Florin |title=Trimsharp's account of himself: a sketch of his life, together with a brief history of the education of the blind, and their achievements, to which is added a collection of poems composed by himself |date=1999 |orig-year=1873 |publisher=American Verse Project |location=University of Michigan |pages=125–126 |chapter-url=https://quod.lib.umich.edu/a/amverse/BAR7162.0001.001?rgn=main;view=fulltext#P123 |access-date=7 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Legend}}</ref> "The Kilkenny Cats" (Anne L. Huber, 1873);<ref>{{cite book |title=The nursery rattle for little folks |first=Anne L. |last=Huber |location=Philadelphia, PA |publisher=Claxton, Remsen, and Haffelfinger |date=1873 |pages=90–91 |chapter-url=https://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00026958/00001/102j |access-date=11 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}}; {{cite book |last1=Kilcup |first1=Karen L. |last2=Sorby |first2=Angela |title=Over the River and Through the Wood: An Anthology of Nineteenth-Century American Children's Poetry |date=2014 |publisher=JHU Press |isbn=9781421411408 |page=217 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=kf8mAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA217 |access-date=11 November 2019}}</ref> "The Kilkenny Cats" (Laurence Winfield Scott, 1880);<ref>{{cite book |last=Scott |first=Laurence [W]infield |title=The Mooted Question, and other rhymes |date=1880 |publisher=John Burns |location=St. Louis |pages=68–76 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/mootedquestionot00scot/page/68 |access-date=26 November 2019 |chapter=The Kilkenny Cats}}</ref> "The Cats av Kilkenny" (Charles Anthony Doyle, 1911).<ref>{{cite book |last=Doyle |first=Charles Anthony |title=Character Sketches in Rhyme and Other Verses |date=1911 |publisher=Western |location=San Francisco |pages=84–86 |chapter-url=https://archive.org/details/charactersketch00doylrich/page/n91 |access-date=11 November 2019 |chapter=The Cats av Kilkenny}}</ref>


===Other===
===Other===
* ''The Cat of Kilkenny; or, The Forest of Blarney'' is a burlesque premiered at the [[Olympic Theatre]] in 1815.<ref>{{cite web |title=The Cat of Kilkenny; or, The Forest of Blarney |work=Eighteenth Century Drama: Censorship, Society and the Stage |publisher=Adam Matthew Digital |url=http://www.eighteenthcenturydrama.amdigital.co.uk/Documents/Details/HL_LA_mssLA1849 |accessdate=20 November 2019}}</ref>
* ''The Cat of Kilkenny; or, The Forest of Blarney'' is a burlesque premiered at the [[Olympic Theatre]] in 1815.<ref>{{cite web |title=The Cat of Kilkenny; or, The Forest of Blarney |work=Eighteenth Century Drama: Censorship, Society and the Stage |publisher=Adam Matthew Digital |url=http://www.eighteenthcenturydrama.amdigital.co.uk/Documents/Details/HL_LA_mssLA1849 |access-date=20 November 2019}}</ref>
* "The Kilkenny Cats" are a pair of [[chess problem]]s composed by [[Sam Loyd]] in 1888, where the pieces are configured in a cat shape; Loyd accompanied the problem with a story of quarreling professors.<ref>
* "The Kilkenny Cats" are a pair of [[chess problem]]s composed by [[Sam Loyd]] in 1888, where the pieces are configured in a cat shape; Loyd accompanied the problem with a story of quarreling professors.<ref>
{{cite news |last1=Henderson |first1=John |title=Chess, cats and free-flowing beer |url=https://en.chessbase.com/post/che-cats-and-free-flowing-beer |newspaper=The Scotsman |via=ChessBase |accessdate=4 December 2019 |language=en |date=6 December 2001}};
{{cite news |last=Henderson |first=John |title=Chess, cats and free-flowing beer |url=https://en.chessbase.com/post/che-cats-and-free-flowing-beer |newspaper=The Scotsman |via=ChessBase |access-date=4 December 2019 |date=6 December 2001}};
{{cite web |last1=Ware |first1=Gary Kevin |title=Get in Shape! |url=http://www.uschess.org/content/view/8496/812/ |publisher=The United States Chess Federation |accessdate=4 December 2019 |date=26 June 2008}}</ref>
{{cite web |last=Ware |first=Gary Kevin |title=Get in Shape! |url=http://www.uschess.org/content/view/8496/812/ |publisher=The United States Chess Federation |access-date=4 December 2019 |date=26 June 2008}}</ref>
* [[Parker Brothers]] released "The Amusing Game of the Kilkenny Cats" in 1890 and "Rex and the Kilkenny Cats Game" in 1892.<ref>{{cite book |last1=O'Brien |first1=Karen |title=Toys & Prices 2006 |date=2005 |publisher=KP Books |isbn=9780896891524 |pages=290, 294 |language=en}}</ref>
* [[Parker Brothers]] released "The Amusing Game of the Kilkenny Cats" in 1890 and "Rex and the Kilkenny Cats Game" in 1892.<ref>{{cite book |last=O'Brien |first=Karen |title=Toys & Prices 2006 |date=2005 |publisher=KP Books |isbn=9780896891524 |pages=290, 294}}</ref>
* "Mighty Mouse and the Kilkenny Cats" is a 1945 cartoon in which [[Mighty Mouse]] saves the mice of [[Manhattan]] from a gang of cats whose leader's name is Kilkenny.<ref>{{cite video |title=Mighty Mouse and the Kilkenny Cats |time=0m36s |date=April 1945 |publisher=20th Century Fox |author=Terrytoons}}; {{cite journal |title=Recommended Shorts; Cartoons and Comedies |journal=New Movies |date=June 1945 |page=15 |url=https://archive.org/details/newmoviesnationa1920nati/page/n230 |accessdate=20 November 2019 |publisher=National Board of Review of Motion Pictures |volume=XX |number=5 |location=New York}}</ref>
* "Mighty Mouse and the Kilkenny Cats" is a 1945 cartoon in which [[Mighty Mouse]] saves the mice of [[Manhattan]] from a gang of cats whose leader's name is Kilkenny.<ref>{{cite video |title=Mighty Mouse and the Kilkenny Cats |time=0m36s |date=April 1945 |publisher=20th Century Fox |author=Terrytoons}}; {{cite journal |title=Recommended Shorts; Cartoons and Comedies |journal=New Movies |date=June 1945 |page=15 |url=https://archive.org/details/newmoviesnationa1920nati/page/n230 |access-date=20 November 2019 |publisher=National Board of Review of Motion Pictures |volume=XX |number=5 |location=New York}}</ref>
* The Kilkenny Beer Festival, sponsored by [[Smithwick's]] and held 1964–1974, included a [[cat show]] as one of the events.<ref>Monagle 2010, pp.93, 94, 105</ref>
* The Kilkenny Beer Festival, sponsored by [[Smithwick's]] and held 1964–1974, included a [[cat show]] as one of the events.<ref>Monagle 2010, pp.93, 94, 105</ref>
* [[Robert Nye]]'s 1976 novel ''Falstaff'' adapts the Juverna story to its 15th-century setting. Frank Pickbone is fooled in an unnamed Irish village by the dangling tails, until the title character{{#tag:ref|Nye's character is based on [[John Fastolf]] and Shakespeare's [[Falstaff]].|group="n"}} disabuses him.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Nye |first1=Robert |title=Falstaff |date=2012 |publisher=Allison & Busby |isbn=9780749012250 |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=zCCKAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT243 |accessdate=20 November 2019 |language=en |chapter=Mr Robert Shallow v Mr Sampson Stockfish}}</ref>
* [[Robert Nye]]'s 1976 novel ''Falstaff'' adapts the Juverna story to its 15th-century setting. Frank Pickbone is fooled in an unnamed Irish village by the dangling tails, until the title character{{#tag:ref|Nye's character is based on [[John Fastolf]] and Shakespeare's [[Falstaff]].|group="n"}} disabuses him.<ref>{{cite book |last=Nye |first=Robert |title=Falstaff |date=2012 |publisher=Allison & Busby |isbn=9780749012250 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=zCCKAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT243 |access-date=20 November 2019 |chapter=Mr Robert Shallow v Mr Sampson Stockfish}}</ref>
* "Wild Cats of Kilkenny" is an instrumental track on [[The Pogues]]' 1985 album ''[[Rum Sodomy & the Lash]]'', in which "two [[Theme (music)|theme]]s meld for a time before dueling and coming apart; all amid a series of feline-esque shrieks".<ref>{{cite book |last1=Roesgen |first1=Jeffrey T. |title=The Pogues' Rum, Sodomy and the Lash |date=2008 |publisher=Bloomsbury Academic |isbn=978-1-4411-0570-7 |chapterurl=https://books.google.com/books?id=8BJTbN-cfdQC&pg=PT21 |accessdate=23 November 2019 |language=en |series=33{{frac|1|3}} |chapter=The Wild Cats of Kilkenny}}</ref>
* "Wild Cats of Kilkenny" is an instrumental track on [[The Pogues]]' 1985 album ''[[Rum Sodomy & the Lash]]'', in which "two [[Theme (music)|theme]]s meld for a time before dueling and coming apart; all amid a series of feline-esque shrieks".<ref>{{cite book |last=Roesgen |first=Jeffrey T. |title=The Pogues' Rum, Sodomy and the Lash |date=2008 |publisher=Bloomsbury Academic |isbn=978-1-4411-0570-7 |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=8BJTbN-cfdQC&pg=PT21 |access-date=23 November 2019 |series=33 1/3 |chapter=The Wild Cats of Kilkenny}}</ref>
* The Kilkenny Cats [[alternative rock]] group feature in ''[[Athens, GA: Inside/Out]]'', a 1987 documentary about the [[Music of Athens, Georgia|Athens music scene]].<ref>{{cite journal |last1=Mills |first1=Mike |title=Our Town |journal=Spin |date=July 1985 |volume=1 |issue=3 |pages=21–23 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ImJFcBcCvUoC&pg=PA21 |accessdate=22 November 2019 |publisher=SPIN Media LLC |language=en}}; {{cite news |last1=Maslin |first1=Janet |title='Athens, Ga.,' on Rock Bands |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/29/movies/athens-ga-on-rock-bands.html |page=C14 |accessdate=22 November 2019 |work=The New York Times |date=29 May 1987}}; {{cite book |last1=Unterberger |first1=Richie |last2=Hicks |first2=Samb |title=Music USA: The Rough Guide |date=1999 |publisher=Rough Guides |isbn=978-1-85828-421-7 |page=140 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=uwtAx1xP9BMC&pg=PA140 |accessdate=22 November 2019 |language=en}}; {{cite journal |last1=Jipson |first1=Arthur |title=Why Athens? Investigations into the site of an American music revolution |journal=Popular Music and Society |date=24 July 2008 |volume=18 |issue=3 |pages=19–31: 19 |doi=10.1080/03007769408591561 |url=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233138320 |format=PDF}}</ref>
* The Kilkenny Cats [[alternative rock]] group feature in ''[[Athens, GA: Inside/Out]]'', a 1987 documentary about the [[Music of Athens, Georgia|Athens music scene]].<ref>{{cite journal |last=Mills |first=Mike |author-link=Mike Mills |title=Our Town |journal=Spin |date=July 1985 |volume=1 |issue=3 |pages=21–23 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ImJFcBcCvUoC&pg=PA21 |access-date=22 November 2019 |publisher=SPIN Media LLC}}; {{cite news |last=Maslin |first=Janet |author-link=Janet Maslin |title='Athens, Ga.,' on Rock Bands |url=https://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/29/movies/athens-ga-on-rock-bands.html |page=C14 |access-date=22 November 2019 |work=[[The New York Times]] |date=29 May 1987}}; {{cite book |last1=Unterberger |first1=Richie |last2=Hicks |first2=Samb |title=Music USA: The Rough Guide |date=1999 |publisher=Rough Guides |isbn=978-1-85828-421-7 |page=[https://archive.org/details/musicusaroughgui0000unte/page/140 140] |url=https://archive.org/details/musicusaroughgui0000unte |url-access=registration |access-date=22 November 2019}}; {{cite journal |last=Jipson |first=Arthur |title=Why Athens? Investigations into the site of an American music revolution |journal=Popular Music and Society |date=24 July 2008 |volume=18 |issue=3 |pages=19–31: 19 |doi=10.1080/03007769408591561 |url=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233138320 |format=PDF}}</ref>
* The [[Cat Laughs]] comedy festival has been held in Kilkenny annually since 1995.<ref>Monagle 2010, p.185</ref> The "Laughing Cat" logo of a cat hanging from a rope by its tail reflects the Juverna origin story.<ref>Monagle 2010, pp.17, 196</ref>
* The [[Cat Laughs]] comedy festival has been held in Kilkenny annually since 1995.<ref>Monagle 2010, p.185</ref> The "Laughing Cat" logo of a cat hanging from a rope by its tail reflects the Juverna origin story.<ref>Monagle 2010, pp.17, 196</ref>
* In 2007 a set of four [[Irish postage stamps]] on the topic of cats, commissioned by [[An Post]] from cartoonist [[Martyn Turner]], included one of a "Kilkenny Cat", shown holding a [[Hurley (stick)|hurley]] and wearing the Kilkenny [[Gaelic games county colours|county colour]]s.<ref name="stamps2007">{{cite news |last1=Hogan |first1=Senan |title=Feline stamps are the cat's meow |url=https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/feline-stamps-are-the-cats-meow-41947.html |accessdate=12 November 2019 |work=Irish Examiner |date=7 September 2007 |language=en}}; {{cite journal |title=Celtic Cats |journal=Collectors News |date=April 2007 |issue=19 |page=12 |url=http://www.irishstamps.ie/IrishStamps/downloads/CollectorsNewsIssue19.pdf#page=12 |publisher=Irish Stamps}}</ref>{{#tag:ref|The other stamps depicted a "[[Celtic Tiger|Celtic Tigress]]", a "Fat Cat" and a pair of "Cool Cats".<ref name="stamps2007"/>|group="n"}}
* In 2007, a set of four [[Irish postage stamps]] on the topic of cats, commissioned by [[An Post]] from cartoonist [[Martyn Turner]], included one of a "Kilkenny Cat", shown holding a [[Hurley (stick)|hurley]] and wearing the Kilkenny [[Gaelic games county colours|county colour]]s.<ref name="stamps2007">{{cite news |last=Hogan |first=Senan |title=Feline stamps are the cat's meow |url=https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/feline-stamps-are-the-cats-meow-41947.html |access-date=12 November 2019 |work=[[Irish Examiner]] |date=7 September 2007}}; {{cite journal |title=Celtic Cats |journal=Collectors News |date=April 2007 |issue=19 |page=12 |url=http://www.irishstamps.ie/IrishStamps/downloads/CollectorsNewsIssue19.pdf#page=12 |publisher=Irish Stamps}}</ref>{{#tag:ref|The other stamps depicted a "[[Celtic Tiger|Celtic Tigress]]", a "Fat Cat" and a pair of "Cool Cats".<ref name="stamps2007"/>|group="n"}}
* A short film titled ''Two Cats'' was made in Kilkenny in 2018. It is described as a "modern reworking of the story" and premiered at the Kerry Film Festival with the tagline "Each thought there was one cat too many..."<ref>{{cite news |last1=Keane |first1=Sean |title=Kilkenny film 'Two Cats' premieres at Kerry Film Festival |url=https://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/home/341159/kilkenny-film-two-cats-premieres-at-kerry-film-festival.html |accessdate=12 November 2019 |work=Kilkenny People |date=11 October 2018 |url-access=subscription}}; {{imdb title|8391456|Two Cats (2018)}}</ref>
* A short film titled ''Two Cats'' was made in Kilkenny in 2018. It is described as a "modern reworking of the story" and premiered at the Kerry Film Festival with the tagline "Each thought there was one cat too many..."<ref>{{cite news |last=Keane |first=Sean |title=Kilkenny film 'Two Cats' premieres at Kerry Film Festival |url=https://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/home/341159/kilkenny-film-two-cats-premieres-at-kerry-film-festival.html |access-date=12 November 2019 |work=Kilkenny People |date=11 October 2018 |url-access=subscription}}; {{IMDb title|8391456|Two Cats (2018)}}</ref>


==See also==
==See also==
* [[self-cannibalism]]
* [[Self-cannibalism]]
** [[ouroboros]], an ancient symbol depicting a serpent or dragon eating its own tail
** [[Ouroboros]], an ancient symbol depicting a serpent or dragon eating its own tail
* [[strange loop]]
* [[Strange loop]]
* [[mutual assured destruction]]
* [[Mutual assured destruction]]
* {{ill|La Gatomaquia|es|lt=''La Gatomaquia''}} "The Battle of the Cats"; 1634 mock epic poem by [[Lope de Vega]]<ref>{{cite journal |author1=Άναγκη |journal=The Westminster Review |date=August 1843 |publisher=J.M. Mason |pages=40–53 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ODvhAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA40 |accessdate=12 November 2019 |language=en |title=Lope de Vega's Gatomachia}}</ref>
* {{ill|La Gatomaquia|es|lt=''La Gatomaquia''}} "The Battle of the Cats"; 1634 mock epic poem by [[Lope de Vega]]<ref>{{cite journal |author=Άναγκη |journal=The Westminster Review |date=August 1843 |publisher=J.M. Mason |pages=40–53 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ODvhAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA40 |access-date=12 November 2019 |title=Lope de Vega's Gatomachia}}</ref>
* "Famous battel of the catts, in the province of Ulster, June 25, 1668"; a political allegory attributed, "almost certainly" incorrectly,<ref>{{cite book |last1=Hehir |first1=Brendan O. |title=Harmony from Discords: A Life of Sir John Denham |date=1968 |publisher=University of California Press |page=265 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=5TzC3fKNdswC&pg=PA265 |accessdate=26 November 2019 |language=en}}</ref> to Sir [[John Denham (poet)|John Denham]].<ref>{{cite book |author=Sir J. D. |title=Famous battel of the catts, in the province of Ulster, June 25, 1668 |date=1668 |via=EEBO |publisher=T. Newcomb |location=The Savoy, London |url=https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A35650.0001.001/1:2?rgn=div1;view=fulltext |accessdate=12 November 2019}}</ref>
* "Famous battel of the catts, in the province of Ulster, June 25, 1668"; a political allegory attributed, "almost certainly" incorrectly,<ref>{{cite book |last=Hehir |first=Brendan O. |title=Harmony from Discords: A Life of Sir John Denham |date=1968 |publisher=University of California Press |page=[https://archive.org/details/harmonyfromdisco0000oheh/page/265 265] |url=https://archive.org/details/harmonyfromdisco0000oheh |url-access=registration |access-date=26 November 2019}}</ref> to Sir [[John Denham (poet)|John Denham]].<ref>{{cite book |author=Sir J. D. |title=Famous battel of the catts, in the province of Ulster, June 25, 1668 |date=1668 |via=EEBO |publisher=T. Newcomb |location=The Savoy, London |url=https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A35650.0001.001/1:2?rgn=div1;view=fulltext |access-date=12 November 2019}}</ref>
* ''[[The Great Cat Massacre]]'' — by printers' apprentices in 1730s France
* ''[[The Great Cat Massacre]]'' — by printers' apprentices in 1730s France
* [[Spartoi]], in Greek myth fought each other till all (or all but five) were killed
* [[Spartoi]], in Greek myth fought each other till all (or all but five) were killed
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===Sources===
===Sources===
* {{cite thesis |url=https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/0edc/e33ac1fd7bf03a70c407a808e5eb4c456230.pdf |title=Four Festivals and a City: A critique of Actor-Network Theory as an approach to understanding the emergence and development of Flagship Festivals in Kilkenny from 1964 to 2004 |first=James |last=Monagle |type=PhD |publisher=NUI Maynooth |date=30 October 2009 |accessdate=13 November 2019}}
* {{cite thesis |url=https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/0edc/e33ac1fd7bf03a70c407a808e5eb4c456230.pdf |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191113143814/https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/0edc/e33ac1fd7bf03a70c407a808e5eb4c456230.pdf |url-status=dead |archive-date=13 November 2019 |title=Four Festivals and a City: A critique of Actor-Network Theory as an approach to understanding the emergence and development of Flagship Festivals in Kilkenny from 1964 to 2004 |first=James |last=Monagle |type=PhD |publisher=NUI Maynooth |date=30 October 2009 |s2cid=130954961 |access-date=13 November 2019}}


===Citations===
===Citations===
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"The Eastern Kilkennies — may the knot hold": Puck (1904) hopes the Russo-Japanese War in Manchuria will debilitate both Japan and Russia

The Kilkenny cats are a fabled pair of cats from County Kilkenny (or Kilkenny city in particular) in Ireland, who fought each other so ferociously that only their tails remained at the end of the battle. Often the absurd implication is that they have eaten each other. "P. M'Teague" was Philip Meadows Taylor, father of Colonel Philip Meadows Taylor.[1][2] In the nineteenth century the Kilkenny cats were a common simile for any conflict likely to ruin both combatants. Kilkenny cat is also used more generally for a fierce fighter or quarrelsome person. These senses are now rather dated.[3] In the later twentieth century the motif was reclaimed by Kilkenny people as a positive symbol of tenacity and fighting spirit, and "the Cats" is the county nickname for the Kilkenny hurling team.[4] The original story is attested from 1807 as a simple joke or Irish bull; some early versions are set elsewhere than Kilkenny. Nevertheless, theories have been offered seeking a historical basis for the story's setting.

Versions of the story

The earliest attested version of the story is from June 1807, in Anthologia, a collection of jokes and humorous pieces copied by "W.T." of Inner Temple from unnamed previous publications.[5][6] Steven Connor characterises the story as an Irish bull.[7] Under the heading "Kilkenny Cats" it runs:[6]

In a company, consisting of naval officers, the discourse happened to turn on the ferocity of small animals; when an Irish gentleman present stated his opinion to be, that a Kilkenny cat, of all animals, was the most ferocious; and added, "I can prove my assertion, by a fact within my own knowledge:— I once," said he, "saw two of these animals fighting in a timber yard, and willing to see the result of a long battle, I drove them into a deep sawpit, and placing some boards over the mouth, left them to their amusement. Next morning I went to see the conclusion of the fight, and what d'ye think I saw?"– "One of the cats dead, probably," —replied one of the company.— "No by Ja—s![n 1] there was nothing left in the pit, but the two tails and a bit of flue![n 2]"

The tale was repeated verbatim the next month in The European Magazine's review of Anthologia,[9] as well as The Sporting Magazine, also in London,[10] and Walker's Hibernian Magazine in Dublin.[11] It reappeared in 1812 in Thomas Tegg's The Spirit of Irish Wit,[12] and in the 1813 supplement to William Barker Daniel's Rural Sports.[13]

The following appears in Thomas Gilliland's The Trap, an 1808 satire on the theme of love:[14]

When I was last at Kilkenny, said Teague, I saw two big ram-cats fight a duel for love, your honour; and they fought, and fought, till they ate each other up. Devil burn me, if I lie, your honour! I went after them into the gutter! "Tommy!" says I, "my dear Phely!" says I, but no Tommy or Phely was there: I found only the tips of their tails.

An 1811 joke book from Boston in the United States included:[15]

On a gentleman's reading an account of a tiger fight in the East Indies, an Irishman present exclaimed: 'a tiger be hang'd! Why, sir, I once myself saw two Kilkenny cats fight till they devoured each other up, excepting the very tips of their two tails.'

Another version is alluded to in an 1816 critique of a pamphlet by Andrew O'Callaghan, master of Kilkenny College:[16]

There is a story told in Kilkenny, that several cats had been locked up in a room, for a fortnight together, without food, and, upon opening the door, there was nothing found but the tail of one of them. Surely Mr. O'C. must have been dreaming of this native story, when he made his arguments thus to swallow themselves, after destroying each other—but the tail of one of them remains

Responding to the 1816 critique, Rowley Lascelles, an English antiquarian based in Ireland, denied the existence of such a story, which he saw as a slur on Kilkenny.[17]

Although in 1835 John Neal called the story "one of the oldest and most undoubted Joe [Miller]s",[18] the first edition of Joe Miller's Jests to include it was in 1836 (verbatim from Anthologia).[19] Theodore Hook's 1837 novel Jack Brag jocularly sources the story to [Joe] Miller's History of Ireland.[20][21]

Elsewhere than Kilkenny

An 1817 memoir of the Irish wit John Philpot Curran situates the story in Sligo rather than Kilkenny, as a tall tale told by Curran:[22][23]

Passing his first summer at Cheltenham[n 3] ... he had resort to a story to draw himself into notice. ... The conversation of the table turning altogether on the stupid, savage, and disgusting amusement of cock-fighting, he was determined to put an end to it,[n 4] by the incredible story of the Sligo cats.
At [a cat-fight meeting in Sligo] three matches were fought on the first day ... and before the third of them was finished (on which bets ran very high), dinner was announced in the inn where the battle was fought. The company agreed ... to lock up the room, leaving the key in trust to Mr. Curran, who protested to God, he never was so shocked, that his head hung heavy on his shoulders, and his heart was sunk within him, on entering with the company into the room, and finding that the cats had actually eaten each other up, save some little bits of tails which were scattered round the room.
The Irish part of the company saw the drift, ridicule, and impossibility of the narrative, and laughed immoderately, while the English part yawned and laughed, seeing others laugh, and sought relief in each other's countenances.

In Real life in Ireland, an 1821 stage Irish novel by Pierce Egan, Captain Grammachree, a retired soldier, tells Brian Boru, a young country squire, of a cat-fight in the neighbourhood of Dublin:[25]

'There was hundreds betted, but not a cross won or lost; for by Jasus! they left nothing on the ground but a bunch of hair and two tails!'
'What!' said Brian, 'then I suppose the cats ran away?'
'An Irish cat run away!' sneered Grammachree, 'no; never! by the powers of Moll Kelly! they eat one another up!'

An 1830 "dialogue on Popery" by one Jacob Stanley summarises "the Travellers tale of the Irish Cat fight", giving no specific location.[26]

The battle of the cats of Ireland

S. Redmond in 1864 in Notes and Queries recounted a tale told to him "more than thirty years" earlier when he was "very young" by "a Kilkenny gentleman", about a battle "some forty years before" [i.e. about 1790] on "a plain near that ancient city":[27]

One night, in the summer time, all the cats in the city and county of Kilkenny, were absent from their "local habitations;" and next morning, the plain alluded to (I regret I have not the name) was found covered with thousands of slain tabbies; and the report was, that almost all the cats in Ireland had joined in the contest; as many of the slain had collars on their necks, which showed that they had collected from all quarters of the island. The cause of the quarrel, however, was not stated; but it seemed to have been a sort of provincial faction fight between the cats of Ulster and Leinster—probably the quadrupeds took up the quarrels of their masters, as at that period there was very ill feeling between the people of both provinces.

Although Redmond states "This has nothing to do with the story of the two famous Kilkenny cats", the two have occasionally been linked subsequently.[28][29] A similar story was told in Charles Henry Ross' 1867 Book of Cats,[30] to which Kilkenny antiquarian John G. A. Prim responded that he had heard such a story told of many places in Ireland, but not of Kilkenny.[21] In 1863, Once A Week had a story of a similar battle in Yorkshire.[31] Folklorist John O'Hanlon in 1898 published a version from John Kearns of Irishtown, Dublin which situated the battle on Scald Hill in Sandymount, the future site of Star of the Sea Catholic Church, witnessed by curate Father Corrigan.[32] In the 1930s, the Irish Folklore Commission noted a seanchaí from Rossinver, County Leitrim, tell of a cat battle in Locan Dhee near Kinlough on New Year's Day 1855.[33]

Use as a simile

'The Kilkenny Cats; or, Old and Young Ireland "coming to the scratch."' (Punch, 1846) — caricature of William Smith O'Brien and Daniel O'Connell.

The story was sufficiently well known in the 19th century to be used frequently as a simile for "combatants who fight until they annihilate each other";[34][35] to "fight like [the] Kilkenny cats" means "to engage in a mutually destructive struggle".[36] Early instances include: (from 1814) an account in Niles' Register of the loss of USS Wasp after sinking HMS Avon;[37] (from 1816) the critique of Andrew O'Callaghan mentioned earlier; a letter from the 4th Duke of Buccleuch to Walter Scott comparing Lord Byron's poem "Darkness" to the story;[38] and a riposte to disagreeing literary critics:[39]

Indeed, so mortal is your reciprocal hostility, that your victims may, with Mercutio, form the reasonable expectation, that, being, 'two such, we shall have none shortly, for one will kill the other;'[40] and like the celebrated Kilkenny cats, leave no other vestige to designate the tribe of ferae naturae to which you belong, than an odd tooth or a claw!

One context for the simile was advocating isolationism, allowing one's enemies to defeat each other, or a divide-and-conquer policy. A report in Niles' Register of Spanish church opposition to the 1817 tax reform of Martín de Garay [es] wished 'the fate of the "Kilkenny cats"' on "Ferdinand and his priests".[41] Similarly Charles Napier in 1823 hoped "the French and Spaniards [would] war like Kilkenny cats";[42] likewise Figaro in London in 1832 urging British neutrality after the Ten Days' Campaign[43] and Charles Darwin in 1833 in Buenos Aires during the Revolution of the Restorers.[44] J. S. Pughe in a 1904 political cartoon in Puck depicted Japan and Russia as Kilkenny cats fighting the Russo-Japanese War in Manchuria. Similarly in 1941, after Germany invaded the Soviet Union, Clifford Berryman depicted Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin as "a modern version of the Kilkenny Cats".[45] In The German Ideology, Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels accuse Bruno Bauer of fomenting antagonism between Max Stirner and Ludwig Feuerbach "as the two Kilkenny cats in Ireland".[46][n 5]

"About the Size of it" (Harper's Weekly, 1864) — General Grant. "Well, and what if it should come to a Kilkenny fight? I guess Our Cat has got the longest tail!"

Conversely, the fable serves as a cautionary tale for the moral "united we stand, divided we fall". It was invoked in 1827, in The Lancet during disputes around the Royal College of Physicians;[48] and in The Literary Gazette of the rivalry between Drury Lane and Covent Garden theatres.[49] It was a common metaphor before and during the American Civil War, a conflict seen as likely to destroy both sides;[50] especially when criticising the war of attrition strategy of Ulysses S. Grant. Some extended the metaphor to say the North would win as having the longest tail; this was popularly reported in 1864 as a quip by Grant,[50] but George Gordon Meade made the same comparison in an 1861 letter to his wife.[51] Some Mormons viewed the Civil War as fulfilling a prophecy by founder Joseph Smith, who said after an 1843 attempt to arrest him, "The constitution of the United States declares that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be denied. Deny me the writ of habeas corpus, and I will fight with gun, sword, cannon, whirlwind, and thunder, until they are used up like the Kilkenny cats."[50][52] Donald Dewar, the then First Minister of Scotland, in 1999 denied media talk of a rift with John Reid, the Scottish Secretary, conceding, "I must confess the casual outsider who simply read the headlines might think it was a collection of Kilkenny cats fighting".[53] In the Supreme Court of India in December 2018, K. K. Venugopal, the Attorney General, justified the government's suspension of Alok Verma and Rakesh Asthana from the Central Bureau of Investigation by saying, "The government was watching with amazement the director and his deputy fight like Kilkenny cats."[54] Indian media explained the simile in their reports on the case.[54][55]

It was invoked in 1837 for political gridlock in divided legislatures: by Thomas Corwin in the 24th Congress,[56] and by Thomas Carlyle in The French Revolution: A History.[57] James Grant (1837, 1843) and S. Gerlis (2001) draw analogy with litigants who are both ruined by legal costs.[58] It was often used in accounts of factionalism within Irish nationalist politics,[59] such as between the Repeal Association and Young Ireland in the 1840s,[60] Isaac Butt against Joseph Biggar in the 1870s,[61] or the Parnell split of the 1890s.[62] Francis Jacox invoked the Kilkenny cats in 1865 when enumerating "Certain Eligible Cases of Mutual Extermination" in Bentley's Miscellany.[63] Prosper Mérimée alluded to les chats de Kilkenny in 1860s correspondence,[n 6] prompting a query to L'Intermédiaire des chercheurs et curieux in 1904,[66] the answer to which was prefaced, "Those of us who ever had an English governess will recall the 'Kilkenny Cats'."[67] In his diary in 1950, Ernest Bevin, the UK Foreign Secretary, described the UK's Cold-War security links to the US as being "tied to the tail of a Kilkenny cat".[68]

A lone Kilkenny cat may be invoked to symbolise ferocity or vigour without the implication of mutual destruction.[69] In an 1825 humorous verse, Anthony Bleecker, inquiring into the cause of death of a peaceable cat, asks: "Did some Kilkenny cat make thee a ghost?"[70] John Galt in 1826 refers to "an enormous tiger almost as big as a Kilkenny cat".[71] In an 1840 story by Edgar Allan Poe, "Sir Pathrick O'Grandison, Barronitt, of Connacht" says he was "mad as a Kilkenny cat" when a rival came to court his beloved.[34][72] In George Lippard's 1843 satire of Philadelphia publishers, Irishman Phelix Phelligrim exclaims, when his associates are cursing and red-faced with anger, "Its in a fine humor ye are, gentleman! The Kilkenny cats was a mere circumstance to ye!"[73] Leo Richard Ward in 1939 described someone as "contrary and mean as a Kilkenny cat".[74] In 2009, a Children's Court magistrate in Sydney described a schoolgirl arrested for fighting as a "Kilkenny cat".[75]

Reclaimed

Irish counties have nicknames, some long established and in general use, others invented by sports journalists covering inter-county Gaelic games. The Kilkenny county team,[n 7] which has won more All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championships than any other county, has been called "the Cats" in newspapers since at least the 1980s.[78]

In 1998 a man in Clark County, Washington, changed his surname from "Kenny" to "Kilkenny", reversing a change his great-grandfather had made to avoid the fighting stereotype associated with the name "Kilkenny" in the United States.[79]

Origin theories

The simplest theory for the story is that it is merely an Irish joke or Irish bull,[18][7][69] and that the selection of Kilkenny as opposed to somewhere else in Ireland is arbitrary, perhaps favoured by the alliteration of the phrase "Kilkenny cats".[80] John G. A. Prim in Notes and Queries in 1850 conceded that this was the most commonly accepted theory ("This ludicrous anecdote has, no doubt, been generally looked upon as an absurdity of the Joe Miller class").[81] La Belle Assemblée in 1823 credited Curran (for Kilkenny rather than Sligo).[82] As regards the age of the story, Prim in 1868 wrote:[21]

Thirty years ago I made inquiries amongst the "oldest inhabitants" of my acquaintance then living, and their unanimous testimony was, that the story of the Kilkenny cats was in vogue as long as they could remember, and the recollections of some of them extended to nearly half a century before [1798].

Rowley Lascelles claimed the 1816 version of the story was "taken from another, a well-known one, which is shortly this. Into a kennel of hounds, a dog of another species, did, one night, accidentally make its way. In the morning nothing was found of him but his tail."[17] In the Histoire Naturelle (1758), Buffon describes how twelve unfed captive field mice ate each other, the survivor having mutilated legs and tail.[83]

Prim proposed that the cats were originally an allegory for continual jurisdictional disputes between the adjacent municipal corporations of Kilkenny (or Englishtown, or Hightown) and Irishtown (or Saint Canice, or Newcourt).[81][n 8] Prim claimed that "mutual litigations, squabbles, assaults and batteries, with the accompanying imprisonments, fines and law costs",[21] which brought both near to bankruptcy, lasted from 1377 to "the end of the seventeenth century".[81] He claimed to have a paper on "the natural history of the Kilkenny cats" in preparation, and cited a Close Roll entry from the Irish Chancery for the 1377 date.[81] (The entry notes that Alexander de Balscot, the bishop of Ossory and sovereign of Irishtown, objected to Kilkenny corporation levying octroi for murage on Irishtown market.[85]) Prim's paper about the cats story was not published, though in one of 1870 he states, "Soon after [1658] the municipal body of Kilkenny became involved in an expensive lawsuit with the neighbouring Corporation of Irishtown, concerning questions of privilege and superior authority within the latter borough";[86] while in 1857 he wrote that John Hartstonge, as bishop of Ossory from 1693, and his brother Standish, as Recorder of Kilkenny from 1694, were on opposing sides of the dispute.[87] C. A. Ward suggested in 1891 that Prim's explanation is "simply a tale invented after the fable relating to the cats had got into circulation".[88] Prim's theory was bolstered in 1943 by publication, in a calendar of Ormond papers, of a 1596 arbitration between the corporations over markets, merchants' guilds, and musters.[89] The New International Encyclopedia in 1903 claimed this allegory was a satire by Jonathan Swift,[90] who attended Kilkenny College from 1673 to 1681.[91] Henry Craik's 1894 biography suggests the alleged dispute between Englishtown and Irishtown was still in progress in Swift's time and was between Protestants and Catholics.[91] In fact, Irishtown corporation was controlled by the Church of Ireland bishop of Ossory.[92]

Thomas D'Arcy McGee in 1853 claimed the origin is a metaphor for feuding, not between Englishtown and Irishtown, but in the Confederation of Kilkenny between supporters and opponents of Ormonde's first peace in 1646.[93] D. M. R. Esson in 1971 gave Ormonde's second peace in 1648 as the source.[94]

Detail from First stage of cruelty (Hogarth, 1751) depicting two cats tied and suspended by a rope to fight each other.

Another theory was reported by "Juverna" in Notes and Queries in 1864, as having been heard "in Kilkenny, forty years ago, from a gentleman of unquestioned veracity".[95] The story holds that a group of bored soldiers stationed in Kilkenny held fights between two cats tied together by their tails and suspended from a clothes line or crosspost.[n 9] Their commander forbade the practice, but they carried on in secret. When the commander was heard approaching, a soldier hastily cut through the cats' tails, allowing them to escape. The commander asked about the hanging tail ends, and the soldier averred that the cats had eaten each other. In Juverna's version, the troops were Hessians after the Wexford Rebellion of 1798 or Emmet's Insurrection of 1803.[95] A review in The Athenaeum of Ross' Book of Cats claims the soldiers were in the Williamite army of 1690.[98] Prim agrees that the episode occurred with Hessians in 1798, but states that their sport was influenced by a story already proverbial.[21] In other accounts, the soldiers were the regular garrison at Kilkenny Castle in Elizabethan times (1558–1603);[99] or the Catholic Confederate army of the 1640s; or Cromwell's occupying force of the 1650s.[100] John Baptist Crozier when Bishop of Ossory, Ferns and Leighlin endorsed the theory.[101] Joseph O'Connor's 1951 memoir has Matt Purcell, a comrade of his father's in the 10th (North Lincoln) Regiment of Foot in the 1880s, claim the original Kilkenny cats were tied together by the Earl of Ormond's jester.[102]

A 1324 witchcraft case in Kilkenny saw Dame Alice Kyteler flee and her servant Petronilla de Meath burnt at the stake after admitting relations with a demon which variously took the form of a dog, a cat, and an Aethiopian. This cat has occasionally been linked to the Kilkenny cats story. In 1857, John Thomas Gilbert made passing reference to "the Kilkenny cat of Dame Alice".[103] Austin Clarke's 1963 poem "Beyond the Pale" recounts the story of "Dame Kyttler", continuing:[104]

Soon afterwards, they say, that demon sired
The black cats of Kilkenny. They fought for scales
Of market fish, left nothing but their own tails
And their descendants never sit by the fire-side.

In 1986 Terence Sheehy suggested a link with the luchthigern,[105] a beast mentioned in Broccán Craibdech's poem in the "Book of Leinster" as having been slain by Midgna's wife[n 10] at a place named Derc-Ferna. Luchthigern is usually interpreted as "mouse lord" and Derc-Ferna as Dunmore Cave near Kilkenny city.[109][107] Sheehy follows Praeger[106] and P.W. Joyce[109] in regarding the luchthigern as a huge cat; in contrast to Brian O'Looney ("some sort of monster")[110] Thomas O'Neill Russell ("Can this word mean a great mouse?")[108] and Dobbs ("a demon or a giant").[107] A Dictionary of Celtic Mythology says that luchtigern was "Mouse-lord of Kilkenny, slain by a huge cat, Banghaisgidheach";[111] this is apparently a misreading of Joyce, who describes Midgna's (human) wife as a ban-gaisgidheach "female champion".[109]

In 1857, the editor of The Journal of the Kilkenny and South-East of Ireland Archaeological Society suggested that a heading "Grimalkin slain in Ireland" reported in a synopsis of the 1584 book Beware the Cat might be relevant;[112] this was disproved by an 1868 reply in the successor journal explaining that the episode (a version of the folktale "The King of the Cats") is set in Bantry in County Wexford about "Patrik Agore", a kern of John Butler, son of Richard Butler, 1st Viscount Mountgarret, who sets out to kill Cahir mac Art Kavanagh.[113]

Authorities which discuss various origin theories include Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable (the Prim and Juverna theories in early editions;[114] the 19th edition follows Brewer's Dictionary of Irish Phrase and Fable in plumping for the Juverna theory); the Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition (Prim, Juverna and J. P. Curran);[115] World Wide Words (Prim, Juverna, and Redmond's great battle);[29] Charles Earle Funk (the same three, Prim's credited to Swift; "probably none of them is true");[116] Terence Dolan (Juverna);[117] and Eric Partridge (Curran).[118] Cashman and Gaffney's Irish Proverbs & Sayings recounts the Juverna theory as "probably just a tall tale".[119] As of 28 November 2019, the Oxford English Dictionary does not comment on any of the purported historical origins.[n 11]

Folkloristics

Comparative mythology seeks to find parallels with folklore elsewhere. Angelo de Gubernatis wrote in 1872:[120]

In a German belief noticed by Professor [Ernst Ludwig] Rochholtz [de], two cats that fight against each other are to a sick man an omen of approaching death. These two cats are probably another form of the children's game in Piedmont and Tuscany, called the game of souls, in which the devil and the angel come to dispute for the soul. Of the two cats, one is probably benignant and the other malignant; they represent perhaps night and twilight. An Irish legend tells us of a combat between cats, in which all the combatants perished, leaving only their tails upon the battlefield. (A similar tradition also exists in Piedmont, but is there, if I am not mistaken, referred to wolves.[n 12]) Two cats that fight for a mouse, and allow it to escape, are also mentioned in Hindoo tradition.

Moncure Daniel Conway built on this in 1879:[122]

De Gubernatis has a very curious speculation concerning the origin of our familiar fable the Kilkenny Cats, which he traces to the German superstition which dreads the combat between cats as presaging death to one who witnesses it; and this belief he finds reflected in the Tuscan child’s ‘game of souls,’ in which the devil and angel are supposed to contend for the soul. The author thinks this may be one outcome of the contest between Night and Twilight in Mythology; but, if the connection can be traced, it would probably prove to be derived from the struggle between the two angels of Death, one variation of which is associated with the legend of the strife for the body of Moses. The Book of Enoch says that Gabriel was sent, before the Flood, to excite the man-devouring giants to destroy one another. In an ancient Persian picture in my possession, animal monsters are shown devouring each other, while their proffered victim, like Daniel, is unharmed. The idea is a natural one, and hardly requires comparative tracing.

Carl Van Vechten in 1922 was sceptical:[123]

Angelo de Gubernatis, too, is infected with this familiar and somewhat silly method of trying to explain all folk-stories symbolically. In "Zoological Mythology, or the Legends of Animals," he gives it as his belief that the celebrated fable of the Kilkenny Cats may mean the mythological contest between night and twilight. God pity these men!

"R.C." in 1874 suggested a comparison with an epigram by Palladas from the Greek Anthology:[124]

A son and father started a competitive contest as to which could eat up all the property by spending most, and after devouring absolutely all the money they have at last each other to eat up.

Archer Taylor suggested the Kilkenny cats "may involve an old story with parallels in Icelandic saga";[125] in the Bandamanna saga, Ofeig says, "And with me it has fared after the fashion of wolves, who eat each other up until they come to the tail, not knowing till then what they are about".[126]

The cat with two tails, a stonemason's carving associated with the Gobán Saor in Irish folklore, is sometimes conflated with the Kilkenny cats.[127]

Steven Connor comments, "Because they involve bodily illogic ... in which a body is imagined as simultaneously present and absent, the cake both eaten and miraculously intact, the fact of death is often in play in Irish bulls".[7]

In the 1930s the Irish Folklore Commission collected two origin stories:

  • From Mrs Maher, Tulla, Threecastles, County Kilkenny, aged 87:[128]
    One day a lady visitor came to Kilkenny Castle and brought with her three fat mice. The owner of the Castle never noticed anything until the place was full of mice. There were mice everywhere. They advertised for cats. Soon the castle was full of cats. The is how Kilkenny got the name "Kilkenny Cats".
  • From Edward Quinn, Barrettsgrange, County Tipperary:[129]
    In ancient times a team of Tipperary men visited Kilkenny to play a team of Kilkennymen at football. The Tipperarymen were winning, and advancing towards the Kilkenny–Tipperary border, when they were attacked by Kilkennymen and women, who fought like cats. The Tipperary followers retaliated, and picked up field stones and hurled them at their opponents, who had to retreat, the Tipperary team then being enabled to take the ball into their own territory.
    Ever afterwards the term "stonethrowers" was applied to Tipperary and "Kilkenny cats" to Kilkenny.

Derivatives

Verse and song

Several poems have been written about the Kilkenny cats; the best known[130] appeared in November 1867 in New York in The Galaxy, along with a grandiloquent literary commentary extolling it as "the Kilkenny epic" and comparing its "unknown author" to Homer:[131]

There wonst was two cats in Kilkenny;
And aich thought there was one cat too many.
So they quarrelled and fit;
And they scratched, and they bit;
Till, excepting their tails
And some scraps of their nails,
Instead of two cats there wan't any.

This is often reduced to a limerick by omitting "excepting their tails and some scraps of their nails".[132] With standardised spelling it has been included in 20th-century Mother Goose anthologies.[133] The full version has been set to music by Beth Anderson and performed on her 2004 album Quilt Music by Keith Borden and H. Johannes Wallmann. It was also set by W. Otto Miessner for gradeschool music lessons,[134] and arranged for six voices by Jean Berger as "There Were Two Cats at Kilkenny".[135] James Barr Walker published an expanded version in 1871.[136][n 13]

David Claypoole Johnston illustration for Mack's "The Cat-Fight" (1824)

Ebenezer Mack's 1824 poem "The Cat-Fight" is a stage Irish mock-heroic dialogue in which Jemmy O'Kain tells Pat M'Hone or Mahone that none of the great battles from myth and history compare to the one he witnessed "in Kilkenny, down the mole" between "two Grimalkins", at the end of which "... not the tip end of a tail, / Was there / Left for a token."[138]

In Cruikshank's Omnibus in 1841 was printed "The Terrific Legend Of The Kilkenny Cats" by "C.B."; a 24-line poem in which there are six tomcats, owned and underfed by a drunk woman named O'Flyn; they resolve to kill and eat her, then turn on each other.[139] A musical setting by Barry Kay was recorded in 1951 by Benny Lee.[140] The poem also appeared on Islands Of The Moon, a 1981 spoken word album of poetry for children by the Barrow Poets.

The 1893 collection Irish Songs and Ballads, with words by Alfred Perceval Graves and music by Charles Villiers Stanford, included "The Kilkenny Cats", in which the cats resort to cannibalism after "the Game Laws came in", stopping them from hunting wild animals.[141] Allen Doone published an original song in 1916 called "The Kilkenny Cats" based on the Juverna story.[142] Other poetic adaptations include "The Kilkenny Legend" (Harvey Austin Fuller, 1873);[143] "The Kilkenny Cats" (Anne L. Huber, 1873);[144] "The Kilkenny Cats" (Laurence Winfield Scott, 1880);[145] "The Cats av Kilkenny" (Charles Anthony Doyle, 1911).[146]

Other

  • The Cat of Kilkenny; or, The Forest of Blarney is a burlesque premiered at the Olympic Theatre in 1815.[147]
  • "The Kilkenny Cats" are a pair of chess problems composed by Sam Loyd in 1888, where the pieces are configured in a cat shape; Loyd accompanied the problem with a story of quarreling professors.[148]
  • Parker Brothers released "The Amusing Game of the Kilkenny Cats" in 1890 and "Rex and the Kilkenny Cats Game" in 1892.[149]
  • "Mighty Mouse and the Kilkenny Cats" is a 1945 cartoon in which Mighty Mouse saves the mice of Manhattan from a gang of cats whose leader's name is Kilkenny.[150]
  • The Kilkenny Beer Festival, sponsored by Smithwick's and held 1964–1974, included a cat show as one of the events.[151]
  • Robert Nye's 1976 novel Falstaff adapts the Juverna story to its 15th-century setting. Frank Pickbone is fooled in an unnamed Irish village by the dangling tails, until the title character[n 14] disabuses him.[152]
  • "Wild Cats of Kilkenny" is an instrumental track on The Pogues' 1985 album Rum Sodomy & the Lash, in which "two themes meld for a time before dueling and coming apart; all amid a series of feline-esque shrieks".[153]
  • The Kilkenny Cats alternative rock group feature in Athens, GA: Inside/Out, a 1987 documentary about the Athens music scene.[154]
  • The Cat Laughs comedy festival has been held in Kilkenny annually since 1995.[155] The "Laughing Cat" logo of a cat hanging from a rope by its tail reflects the Juverna origin story.[156]
  • In 2007, a set of four Irish postage stamps on the topic of cats, commissioned by An Post from cartoonist Martyn Turner, included one of a "Kilkenny Cat", shown holding a hurley and wearing the Kilkenny county colours.[157][n 15]
  • A short film titled Two Cats was made in Kilkenny in 2018. It is described as a "modern reworking of the story" and premiered at the Kerry Film Festival with the tagline "Each thought there was one cat too many..."[158]

See also

References

Footnotes

  1. ^ "by Ja—s" is a censored version of "by Jasus", itself a pronunciation respelling of "by Jesus" in Hiberno-English.
  2. ^ "flue" = "Light down, such as rises from cotton, fur, etc.; very fine lint or hair".[8]
  3. ^ Curran was in Cheltenham in 1810 if not earlier.[24]
  4. ^ It is unclear whether Curran sought to put an end to the topic of conversation or to cock-fighting in general.
  5. ^ German wie die beiden Katzen von Kilkenny in Irland[47]
  6. ^ Writing to Anthony Panizzi, in relation to the battles of Fredericksburg (1863)[64] and Sadowa (1866).[65][66]
  7. ^ Kilkenny city is nicknamed "the Marble City" (from Kilkenny Marble)[76] and "Ye Faire Citie" (the motto under its coat of arms).[77]
  8. ^ The two boroughs and corporations were replaced in 1843 by a single borough and corporation named Kilkenny, under the Municipal Corporations (Ireland) Act 1840.[84]
  9. ^ This form of cat fighting is attested, usually instigated by boys, from the 18th to the early 20th century.[96] A similar anecdote was attributed to Abraham Lincoln in an 1861 newspaper.[97]
  10. ^ Aithbel is interpreted as Midgna's wife's name by Praeger[106] and Dobbs[107] but by Russell as a description of the fight.[108]
  11. ^ The third edition, begun in 2000, has not yet updated the entry (s.v. "Kilkenny n.", sense 1).
  12. ^ This may refer to an incident on Mont Cenis described by Marianne Colston in 1822: "On the summit we saw a cottage, into which, it being vacant during a time of very deep snow, seven wolves found their way; the snow closing the door they could not escape. Some time after, one wolf was discovered there and the heads of six others, so that it was evident that they had eaten each other, and that the surviving one had proved the strongest."[121]
  13. ^ Walker's version written for a school recital for his adopted son James Benzonia "Bennie" Walker (1862–1891).[136][137]
  14. ^ Nye's character is based on John Fastolf and Shakespeare's Falstaff.
  15. ^ The other stamps depicted a "Celtic Tigress", a "Fat Cat" and a pair of "Cool Cats".[157]

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