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Contents 1 Paul Clayton 2 Continuity points (merged) 3 Image 4 Hypocrisy 5 Narrator of Ood Marketing Video 6 Song or Story 7 Doomsday music 8 Reception 9 Speculation 10 "too old Doctor Who"

[edit] Paul Clayton

I very much doubt that the Paul Clayton whom is linked in the nav is the one who acted in this episode, given he commited suicide in 1967. - JVG (talk) 20:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Continuity points (merged)

• The music changes at the end of the episode. When the Ood says that The Doctors song must end soon it changes to that of when The Doctor met Rose for the last time..--83.217.170.161 (talk) 23:34, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it played the Doctor's Theme, not Doomsday. It's the Time Lord motif, as it were, rather than Rose's. Would anyone mind if I edited to reflect that? justaredherring (talk) 14:47, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I would, yeah, because it was definitely "Doomsday". —TreasuryTag—t—c 14:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, rewatched, and you're right. My apologies. >_> justaredherring (talk) 00:18, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

• When they land on Oodsphere, the Doctor marvels that it's a "proper snow at last." A reference to all three Christmas episodes where the snow was caused by something other than nature. --Drscompanion2 (talk) 05:13, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
• It appears now that 'Planet Of The Ood', 'The Impossible Planet' and 'The Satan Pit' all take place in the 42nd century. I seem to remember from the DVD commentary of '42' that Russel T Davies said that '42' was set then too, adding more significance to the name of the episode and tying up why the look of the episode was so similar to that of 'The Impossible Planet'/'The Satan Pit'.

It seems worth a mention to slot these episodes into the Doctor Who timeline and mark the links in the continuity section. Winterspell (talk) 19:40, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

• I'm glad to see that we're making these articles more in keeping with general Wikipedia guidelines, with an out-of-universe focus and an avoidance of trivia. That said, I was wondering whether there might be room to note the Simpsons reference in this episode, especially since it's mentioned on the BBC website. The Simpsons has referenced Doctor Who several times (see Doctor Who spoofs), and now Doctor Who has returned the favour. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:26, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
• I assume we can't mention the connection between the airing on the first seder-night and the motif of freeing a slave race? No? Thought not ;-) —TreasuryTag—t—c 09:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
• The doctor mentions the 2nd great and bountiful human empire. He had previously mentioned the 4th great and bountiful human empire in The Long Game 70.79.143.141 (talk) 09:40, 20 April 2008 (UTC) Steve 10:40 , 20 Apr 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image

OK, folks, I'm having trouble thinking of an image we can use that will satisfy the NFCC... but there must be one!! Any ideas? —TreasuryTag—t—c 09:30, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

The giant Ood brain. Alientraveller (talk) 11:15, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

You know, we don't have to have one ;) Sceptre ^(talk) 11:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

But it'd be nice! —TreasuryTag—t—c 14:05, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

How about an Ood holding a hind-brain. That should be informative. DonQuixote (talk) 15:41, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, and has the advantage of being unique to this story and central to its plot. Good suggestion. Radagast (talk) 20:48, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

True, and nowhere on this site do I see an image of an Ood! Alientraveller (talk) 17:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I already made the screenshot; will upload when I get home (around 10pm CET). — Edokter • Talk • 18:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, hope you like it. — Edokter • Talk • 21:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

How about an image of a group of Ood with "Red Eye", simple, threatening and a little chilling, just like the episode.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.66.181.141 (talk • contribs)

Because it wouldn't satisfy the NFCC. —TreasuryTag—t—c 16:15, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hypocrisy

The Doctor notes that the Ood couldn't evolve into being a subservient species because they wouldn't be able to survive in nature that way, but somehow the Ood are perfectly fine evolutionarily carrying around their own brains? Shouldn't this incongruity be mentioned somewhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lyinginbedmon (talk • contribs) 16:28, 20 April 2008

No, it shouldn't, because aside from being illogical, it also violates our policy on original research. —TreasuryTag—t—c 15:42, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

The episode makes no mention of Richard Dawkins's "selfish-gene" hypothesis, nor is it in fact related to anything the Doctor says. The reference in the episode is just to evolution by natural selection, not a particular way of understanding or cataloging it. I suggest removing the reference to "selfish-gene."

We aren't bound by what the episode says. DWM makes a point about the Ood's subservience, and the selfish gene argument is what the "The Ood aren't born like this" quote is about. Sceptre ^(talk) 01:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

It isn't. The Selfish gene theory does not state that a species cannot evolve into slavery. Indeed, if it benefits reprodution and/or spread of the own genes, evolving into slavery would be perfectly fine with the selfish Gene. See symbiosis and domestication for similar phenomena in real evolution. 90.135.227.254 (talk) 20:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not getting into a debate about biology. I'm just saying, DWM says that line is about the selfish gene, and it's be "verifiability, not truth". Sceptre ^(talk) 21:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Narrator of Ood Marketing Video

It's not listed in the credits, but it sounds very much like Gabriel Woolf provides the narration for the Ood commercial. (Gabriel Woolf, of course, the voice of The Beast in The Impossible Planet and The Satan Pit.)
Is there any way this can be verified? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.70.136.77 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Song or Story

I disagree that Song and Story are synonyms in the context and since what is said by the characters in the episode is "song" I can see no reason why "story" would be substituted. Jasonfward (talk) 14:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Doomsday music

I dispute the commented out notes in the text saying the use of the Doomsday music is unverifable. The episode is the source, plus when taken in context with Partners in Crime (Doctor Who) there is a clear connection (though noting that would be premature). It is a dead guarantee that any recorded commentary will also verify this, so if anyone wants to be anal about it, add the "Citation needed" tag until the commentary is made available on the DVD in a few months. 23skidoo (talk) 22:21, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

The commentary for the episode just has the collective gasp at that part, unlike the PiC commentary which has Tennant explicitly saying "that's the music from Doomsday". Besides, the series 3 soundtrack has two very similar pieces of music: "Boe" and "The Doctor Forever". Sceptre ^(talk) 22:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reception

someone please add reviews,criticism,praise, etc...can't do it myself as could never be npov about tate >:( Jw2034 (talk) 23:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speculation

OK, could someone clarify this for me? I'm asusming speculation "isn't allowed" on the pages, after I put a bit down and it was deleted. Is that right?

The speculation I thought about was Donna mentioning "all the bees disappearing", she said this in the first episode as well, possibly refering to a future episode, perhaps the Unicorn and the Wasp or whichever episode has wasps/bees in (if it's not TUATW). It could also be a reference to the last episode, as there are links between every episode going to the last one? (Heard on Dr Who Confidential). What do you think? Dvp7 (talk) 12:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm fairly confident that unless the production team specifically state the bees vanishing is important, we can only make the connections retroactively for the purposes of a continuity section. In addition, at present, we have no reliable/verifiable sources saying that it will be important, so we have to wait for it to become important before it can be noted. I think that's right? 86.136.156.205 (talk) 16:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "too old Doctor Who"

What does this actually mean? Paul Melville Austin (talk) 12:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Probably means too old style Doctor Who, so not so much what it is today, meant for all ages not just adults kind of thing. Dvp7 (talk) 12:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

DW's original run. Sceptre ^(talk) 14:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)