May 4[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 4, 2024.

Airport route[edit]

Na Sé Contaethe[edit]

• Na Sé Contaethe → Northern Ireland  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Na Se Contaethe → Northern Ireland  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not a plausible search term. Also not mentioned in target (I tried ctrl+f/F3) JuniperChill (talk) 21:58, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominated Na Se Contaethe per the two comments below for the same reason JuniperChill (talk) 20:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette^Edit! 07:01, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Not mentioned anywhere. Also delete Na Se Contaethe. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:59, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom and bundle Na Se Contaethe along with this. Okmrman (talk) 04:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Shhhnotsoloud / @Okmrman  Done JuniperChill (talk) 20:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep The Irish term translates to 'The Six Counties' which is an alternative name for Northern Ireland. I believe that this is a plausible redirect and does not violate WP:RFOREIGN hence I would opt for keep. Golem08 (talk) 21:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:16, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• That would be valid if it were used as such, but Google returns next to nothing, and The Six Counties is a redlink. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:19, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Alternative names for Northern Ireland, which mentions a form of this in its "other names" section. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:26, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, there is mention. Refine to Northern Ireland#Nationalist which has na Sé Chontae. Alternatively an anchor by that name may be created, and the redirects can point to that. Jay 💬 10:01, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nanashi (MÄR)[edit]

• Nanashi (MÄR) → MÄR#Characters  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Separating this out from the below because there is an episode of the manga titled just "Nanashi" so this could justifiably be thought of as a redirect for that. But really people typing this are likely to be looking for the character, on whom there's not enough substance to warrant a redirect. Has prior history but Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of MÄR characters establishes sufficient agreement from AfD that there's no need to restore. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Toadette^Edit! 06:59, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 04:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but retarget to the chapter list. I don't see a reason to delete it since it's mentioned and redirects are WP:CHEAP. Link20XX (talk) 15:52, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:15, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Turing recognizable[edit]

• Turing recognizable → Recursively enumerable language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Turing-recognizable → Recursively enumerable language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Turing-recognizable language → Recursively enumerable language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I think this should redirect to the more general notion of Computably enumerable set. (When this discussion is closed, a Turing-recognizable redirect should be created with the same target.) 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:02, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to treat the redirect Turing-recognizable language the same way. –jacobolus (t) 20:05, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...Or add it to this discussion, like I just did. Steel1943 (talk) 20:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or not. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, because that one is about languages specifically, which is in line with the target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...Or you could just create Turing-recognizable and add it to this nomination ... like I just did... Steel1943 (talk) 20:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or not (because I don't like creating a redirect and immediately nominating it for discussion). 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:53, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...Or just do it and don't waste the community's time with hypotheticals. Steel1943 (talk) 09:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You were the one who started approaching the statement of my nomination with hypotheticals. 1234qwer1234qwer4 10:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I took action rather than waiting for another editor to do it. Steel1943 (talk) 13:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget the first two to Computably enumerable set as they are not about languages specifically, but keep Turing-recognizable language as it is. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Doctor (rapper)[edit]

• Doctor (rapper) → Rude boy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target article unclear. Per the edit history trail left by the redirect, the subject of this redirect may have a connection to the subject at Life (Sigma album). Steel1943 (talk) 18:58, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: This redirect previously targeted the page now at Rudeboy (Sigma song), where the sole reference (outside of the infobox and citations) to the rapper was that the song was featuring vocals from British singer MC Doctor (permalink). That page was BLARed in Jan 2023 and now targets Life (Sigma album), which - outside of the tracklist - references Doctor once, in the sentence "Rudeboy" featuring Doctor was released as the album's first single on 15 December 2013. (The reason Doctor (rapper) currently targets Rude boy is because the redirect Rudeboy (song) was retargeted to that article not long after a move, causing a bot to retarget this redirect there as well.) All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 22:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom unless page gets updated Okmrman (talk) 04:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Rapp[edit]

2025 PDC World Darts Championship[edit]

Latin peoples[edit]

• Latin peoples → Latins  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

History indicates that this used to be a problematic article that was then redirected to Italic peoples, then to Romance-speaking world which was relatively recently deleted (2023), and now re-created as a redirect to Latins by a new user. This should be discussed before we let it stay. Joy (talk) 13:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd argue that Latin people or Latin peoples can be rather vague. It's been seen used colloquially just to mean "Latin Americans" and also been used in European contexts whether for present day Romance-speaking groups or for historical populations like the Italic Latins of antiquity. Since the article Latins covers broadly all "people-related" uses of this term since antiquity it seems like a good fit for a redirect. Evaporation123 (talk) 01:31, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And that would be fine if this was stable, but in the latest rewrite, we already had a revert [1] by @Liz and a major intervention[2] by @Diannaa. A clearer consensus would be preferable. --Joy (talk) 06:48, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Evaporation123, broad target fitting for a broad redirect. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Getting Out Our Dreams II LLC[edit]

• Getting Out Our Dreams II LLC → GOOD Music  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Getting Out Our Dreams II, LLC → GOOD Music  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Recently created at WP:AFC/R. My concerns regarding these redirects are the same as I left as a comment there: judging from this 2022 Variety article, I'm not sure that this is the same company - the fact that Getting Out Our Dreams II, LLC is referenced in that article as a variation on the name of his earlier label, Getting Out Our Dreams makes me feel like this company might not be the same thing as GOOD Music. If it isn't the same company, I worry that having this redirect might cause confusion to our readers, by implying to those who are redirected from this term that this is a company name for the GOOD Music we have an article on (which, according to this RS, would seem to be incorrect). I'm not sure what the best thing to do here is, so bringing to RfD for more thoughts, but would lean in favour of deletion if a better solution can't be found. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 06:45, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@A smart kitten I definitely didn’t do well for not telling you why I went ahead to accept the request even though I saw your comment. I actually did a bit of research and found some song releases where Kanye West was the artist and the label was “Getting Out Our Dreams” then at the copyright text, it was “Getting Out Our Dreams II LLC”. I’m currently mobile, I’d drop what I saw later. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:50, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanderwaalforces: Please feel free to link what you saw; however, I'm not sure if that would confirm them as being the same company - according to the Variety article, Kanye's contracts have been renegotiated more than once, meaning that it seems possible to me that the songs might have been released under GOOD Music initially and the copyright later transferred to Getting Out Our Dreams II, LLC. For example, The Life of Pablo mentions that it was released through GOOD Music, but the Variety article states that [t]he copyright on all of his albums from 2016’s “Life of Pablo” album onward is credited to his company [GOOD II LLC]. I'll admit that this is quite a murky situation, though - the Variety article was the only RS I was able to find that mentioned GOOD II, and the company names being similar doesn't help! All the best ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 07:17, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@A smart kitten I got it now, hehe. [3], go to the More information tab and you'll find "Getting Out Our Dreams II, LLC" as one of the copyright holders. You will also agree with me that [4] the direct album on Spotify also credits "Getting Out Our Dreams II, LLC". This is sufficient for me to have accepted this redirect request. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:37, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanderwaalforces: With respect, I'm still not persuaded/convinced that these are the same company. I'm worried that inferring that GOOD II LLC is the same company as GOOD Music based on an online store including both names in a product description is WP:SYNTH; especially in the face of an RS that directly refers to GOOD II LLC as a variation on the name of his earlier label GOOD Music. As I mentioned above, the copyrights might have been transferred since the album's initial release, which could have resulted in both companies being linked to an album despite being not being connected to each other. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 17:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@A smart kitten I have no prejudice against deleting these redirects, I have no personal interest. Perhaps they should be deleted. You’re doing a great job, by the way. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

United Penn Bank[edit]

• United Penn Bank → BNY Mellon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The only mention of "United" comes from the United States. The only mention of "Penn" is within Pennsylvania. Besides that, no mention of "United Penn", or "Penn Bank" at the target article. Apparently might be a predecessor in the building, and the article is tagged with possibilities, but if this isn't mentioned at the target it may be better off to convert this into a red link to encourage article creation, if the possibility is indeed there. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 21:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak retarget to Mellon Financial, where it is mentioned. I'm not opposed to deleting if others feel it would be better as a red link as the nominator suggests. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This seems like a good target. —Ost (talk) 21:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 05:44, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak retarget to Mellon Financial and tag with possibilities Okmrman (talk) 15:24, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Evil Mario[edit]

• Evil Mario → Wario  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

could also be referring to bowser jr., doopliss, or mario himself in earlier continuities. also arguably not fitting in the first place after... his debut, but that's besides the point cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 17:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: I believe "Evil Mario" is pretty synonymous with Wario in the same way Waluigi is with Luigi. Note that Evil Luigi also exists as a redirect. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  granted, there is that one literal evil luigi in super paper mario... cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 11:05, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom as it could easily mean several other different entities and characters, not just Wario. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Overly vague, and could conceivably refer to numerous different characters. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Very ambiguous. Okmrman (talk) 04:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also bundle Evil Luigi along with this discussion Okmrman (talk) 04:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Hey man im josh. This goes where I'd expect it to. --BDD (talk) 14:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 05:40, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, while not explicitly called "evil Mario", Wario is designed as his evil counterpart, and is the most plausible target for "evil Mario" compared to various Mario games antagonists. Same for evil Luigi (Waluigi). Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as vague, multiple "evil Mario" target possibilities exist and Wario does not equal Mario. If anything I'd expect this to go to a Mario (red hat) related article or respective list of characters, as no mention of "Evil Mario" exists at the current target for Wario. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PORTIA[edit]

• PORTIA → Thomson Financial#Products  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Although I see PORTIA (in all caps) mentioned here, I think it makes sense to redirect to Portia (disambig page) instead. JuniperChill (talk) 10:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• REtarget to dab page -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. This capitalised redirect is correctly targeted and there's a hatnote to other uses. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 05:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per SHHH Okmrman (talk) 15:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Russell Westbrick[edit]

• Russell Westbrick → Russell Westbrook  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Per WP:RNEUTRAL and WP:RFD#DELETE. Also it is never discussed nor mentioned in the article. Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 07:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep as navigationally useful. The nickname is used by WP:RS e.g. [5] and it is plausible that someone not familiar with him or American sports in general might search the phrase based off something they see in sports media or just in a forum post where his actual name is not mentioned. Should be re-tagged with Template:R from non-neutral name rather than Template:R from alternative name.

Remember WP:RNEUTRAL explicitly allows non-neutral but verifiable redirects, and states they should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. You declined to specify which part of WP:RFD#DELETE applies which makes that hard to examine, but WP:RFD#K3 certainly applies here. Redirects from pejorative nicknames are rather common actually. For example just from a quick scroll I see His Fraudulency, Big Yud, Bastard brat, Milk Snatcher, Mark Uterus, President Pooh, Pootin, Fredo Cuomo.

I don't know how likely it is for someone who doesn't follow the NBA to run across this, and someone who already follows the NBA will know who it refers to already, which is why my keep is weak here, but it seems plausible that will happen every so often. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:49B:2883:34FC:225B (talk) 14:29, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any further thoughts?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 05:31, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rape of Nancheng[edit]

Jonny cochrane[edit]

• Jonny cochrane → Johnnie Cochran  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

honestly, i feel like it could refer to both Johnnie Cochran or Johnny Cochrane. Probably even more to the latter since the redirect uses the exact last name. Okmrman (talk) 00:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguate with links to both. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete for 2 errors (from whichever target is intended). There's no justification for any further disambiguation: both targets have a hatnote. 16:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Shhhnotsoloud (talk)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 05:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep A disambiguation page consisting of nothing but errors is questionable IMO, especially with only two entries. Since both articles appropriately have hatnotes to each other and the lawyer is ultimately more notable, I'm fine with the status quo. As a second choice, go ahead and redirect it to the football manager—the nominator has a point that at least there's an exact match for the surname. --BDD (talk) 19:45, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bedbg bite[edit]

G-Men(Slang)[edit]

Cetian[edit]