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GAN report: mystery solved?
[edit]Wugapodes, you may recall that in the GAN report's Malformed nominations sections, an "Unknown nomination" link to the Film section of the page, but with no other information beyond that, showed up for this first time on June 1, 2019. It finally disappeared last night, and I have a tentative diagnosis.
I believe the nomination in question was for Rushmore (film), which was originally made on May 31, 2019, during the day and with a subtopic of "Film". It was clearly a handmade GA nominee template (people are supposed to substitute the GAN template): what I thought was the problem here was that there were no links for the nominator or their talk page, which I fixed. What I missed when I finally started investigating in mid-June—and what I think caused your bot to pick up on the error—was that the date/time field was malformed: all times are supposed to have two digits for the hour and two for the minutes, and this was formatted "8:20, 31 May 2019 (UTC)" rather than "08:20, 31 May 2019 (UTC)", something I didn't notice until today, when I was trying to figure out what went wrong.
I think it was the problematic date that caused the problem, though there may have been something else about this nomination that caused it—this is a tentative diagnosis, after all, and it may be accurate, partially accurate, or not the actual issue at all. Still, this info might help you track down where in the code the error might have been generated, and why the link was to the section rather than the actual (problematic) nomination.
Hope all is well, and best of luck tracking this down. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:15, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- Wow, yeah, that's probably it. The regular expression which parses the noms assumes that the timestamp has two digits for the hour, so that's an easy fix. Wug·a·po·des 18:46, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
GANs to do
[edit]- Talk:Park Avenue main line/GA1
- Talk:Martin Scorsese/GA1 (unless someone gets there first)
New Years Greetings
[edit]I've noticed that some of these GANs directly above are either done or on hold. In case you might be interested, I've recently listed the biography for the film director Martin Scorsese as a nomination. He is nominated for an Oscar this year and I thought it might be nice if his article could be brought to peer review quality before the Oscars next month, if you might be inclined to look at it. CodexJustin (talk) 17:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
WikiCup 2022 September newsletter
[edit]New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
[edit]Hello Wugapodes,
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Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.
Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.
Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.
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Backlog:
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Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
[edit]Hello Wugapodes,
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- Backlog
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
- 2022 Awards
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Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js
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Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.
Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.
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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
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Backlog
Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.
Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.
WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.
Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.
You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.
Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).
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WikiCup 2023 September newsletter
[edit]The fourth round of the competition has finished, with anyone scoring less than 673 points being eliminated. It was a high scoring round with all but one of the contestants who progressed to the final having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were
Epicgenius, with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by
Sammi Brie, with 1575 points, gained mainly from a featured article, 28 good articles and 50 good article reviews. Close behind was
Thebiguglyalien, with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points.
Between them during round 4, contestants achieved 12 featured articles, 3 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 126 good articles, 46 DYK entries, 14 ITN entries, 67 featured article candidate reviews and 147 good article reviews. Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.
Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them and within 24 hours of the end of the final. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.
I will be standing down as a judge after the end of the contest. I think the Cup encourages productive editors to improve their contributions to Wikipedia and I hope that someone else will step up to take over the running of the Cup. Sturmvogel 66 (talk), and Cwmhiraeth (talk)
Question from Tonkarooson (00:27, 1 July 2024)
[edit]Hello again, I hope you are having a good day! I have a couple questions I would appreciate an answer for.
- How can I tell if a website is reliable enough?
- Is https://www.merriam-webster.com/ and https://www.dictionary.com/ (considered) reliable as a source/citation? --Tonkarooson (discuss). 00:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tonkarooson: If you hadn't seen it already, I would recommend reading our guideline on identifying reliable sources. The main takeaway is that "reliable" is very contextual. For a given claim, is the source of the claim an authority on the matter? For something like music, I'd trust industry professionals, musicians, trade magazines, and musicologists over fan zines, blog posts, or experts in fields that aren't music. So while dictionaries like Merriam-Webster are usually reliable, being a generalist source means they might not be as convincing as, say, a trade magazine since the authors of dictionaries are rarely experts in the topics they write about. — Wug·a·po·des 20:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
July music
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The story is today about the first published composition by Arnold Schönberg which I was blessed to hear. Listen, and perhaps read what Alma Mahler (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) - It pleases me that Schönberg, like so many others, received an infobox without problems, and hope for more of that kind. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Today's story is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. - A meeting of two women - the occasion of the cantata - is pictured in our local church. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
3 July is the birthday of Leoš Janáček, and I'm happy I had a meaningful DYK in 2021. It's also the birthday of Franz Kafka, and I uploaded pics from his family's album seen in Berlin.
Libuše Domanínská, the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, Tamara Milashkina became GA and Lando Bartolini went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in Il tabarro in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to Liberty) up to Calaf in Turandot in Beijing in 1999 ;) - 4 July is also the birthday of Brian Boulton who was a pioneer of a concise infobox in 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Pictured on the Main page: Brian's Mozart family grand tour, my story today, and Mozart related to all three items of music on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, Martti Wallén, a bass, and Liana Isakadze, a violinist from Georgia (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). - Robert Schumann is now a FA. In the FAC, a user asked a question that looks factual and harmless to me ("Thought Shouldn't the infobox link to his List of Works?"), and the answer(s) left me speechless. Do you have words? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
My story today is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about Die Entführung aus dem Serail, opera by Mozart, while yesterday's was - because of the TFA - about Les contes d'Hoffmann, opera by Offenbach, - so 3 times Mozart again if you click on "music" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Today's story is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11, yesterday's was a great mezzo, and on Thursday we watched a sublime ballerina. If that's not enough my talk offers chamber music from two amazing concerts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Question from Sourcetostar (16:43, 3 July 2024)
[edit]Hello, I am new to Wiki, I just noticed you are my mentor, which I very much appreciate!
I have been trying to create a page for ICC FraudNet. I was working on this last year, but had some other projects took priority, and 6 months passed, hence the page got deleted. Yesterday I requested the draft be re-instated but it was denied.
Can you help me please? If you can't help, I understand, however, if it's not too much trouble please do let me know.
Look forward to hearing from you. --Sourcetostar (talk) 16:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Sourcetostar it looks like Graeme Bartlett restored the draft at Draft:ICC FraudNet. Is that what you were looking for? — Wug·a·po·des 21:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).
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- Brianga
- De728631
- Georgewilliamherbert
- Hyacinth (deceased)
- ProveIt
- The Night Watch
- Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
- The Community Wishlist is re-opening on 15 July 2024. Read more
Tech News: 2024-28
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Mention in blogpost/twitter
[edit]Hi Wugapodes,
You might want to know that you were mentioned (in a positive light) in this article on David Gerard, as well as in the Twitter discussion surrounding the article.
Have a great day! agucova (talk) 14:42, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Agucova. I skimmed the article, and while interesting, it's quite long and I don't think I'm the target audience for it since I have no real interest in online rationalist communities. I appreciate the heads-up though. If there's a conduct concern that occurred after the 2021 discussion quoted, I'd recommend contacting the Arbitration Committee or the new conflict of interest report system. — Wug·a·po·des 23:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Question from Tonkarooson (08:04, 12 July 2024)
[edit]Hello again. Straight to the point. I recently made this and I can't seem to figure out the Reflist template. This isn't the first time I've encountered it. So what is it? --Tonkarooson (discuss). 08:04, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tonkarooson: You need to use ref tags around your citations for them to show up in {{reflist}}. The code would look something like
<ref>{{cite web|...}}</ref>
— Wug·a·po·des 18:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
You might want to be aware of this
[edit]Hey Wuga. I went back and forth on whether or not to inform you about this, because I judge the likelihood of your name coming up as low, but I ultimately decided that in your place, I'd want a heads up. There's a discussion going on at ANI right now that centers around a new user who came here to make (as yet quite unclear) accusations of misconduct again David Gerard. But however uncertain the exact concerns may be, it's clear that they have been substantially generated by this blog post/article regarding, among other topics, the Scott Alexander debacle. A number of different admins are mentioned in passing in the piece, all of whom I am considering reaching out to, but you are the only one who has on-project comments that are quoted at length--possibly because your sentiments at the pageban discussion (the substance of the quotation) align somewhat with the author's central thesis.
At the moment it is unclear if the discussion will go anywhere (currently we are trying to determine whether the OP has a colourable reason for contributing here), and if it does, there is no certainty it will come back around to the Alexander affair, or that your comments will feature prominently in the resulting discussion. But at a minimum I suspect that a number of community members are going to be seeing your words leveraged by the piece in question, and that's probably reason enough to clue you in on what is going on. I've also informed David, the OP having failed to give him the required ANI notice. SnowRise let's rap 10:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate the heads up, Snow Rise, and also your contributions to the discussion there. I'm avoiding substantive comments on-wiki regarding the piece mostly because I don't have time to spend carefully analyzing the blog post and don't feel in-the-loop enough to stick my nose into things right now. That said, I think the article is a bit of a nothingburger from a conduct or process improvement perspective, and imo, avoiding a community response that plays into the author's narrative is the better strategy for weathering the news cycle. I think you made the case very well in the discussion when you said
[W]e stand to very certainly at least lose some credibility with some people looking in at our processes from the outside if we summarily and reflexively block someone for coming here to raise their concerns, merely because they lacked the technical facility with our bureaucratic norms to make a proper ANI filing.
— Wug·a·po·des 18:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)- Thanks--the matter does indeed seem to have resolved itself, though the real credit goes to Tamzin for getting the ball rolling and Canterbury Tail for being the right kind of admin, open to critical feedback. I'm inclined to agree with your prediction of the article being unlikely to amount to anything; I can't see how it would galvanize any kind of change in perspective or trigger any action beyond what was already taken at the time of the incidents covered. And I don't think action here was the intended outcome, if I read the situation correctly. Rather seems to be a new salvo in a series of broadsides involving parties in the other communities covered by the story. SnowRise let's rap 19:43, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-29
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Moving a subpage
[edit]For the subpage I have created titled "User:Tonkarooson/uncommon autistic traits", I want to change the name of it by moving it, but the article about moving a page doesn't seem to specify about subpages; so I'm not too sure if this is fine.
Here's another question that seems pretty important. If you hadn't seen before, I want uncommon autistic traits to be like an actual article (even if it won't be able to), but one of the disallowed uses states, "Using subpages for permanent content that is meant to be part of the encyclopedia." On the #Why am I making this sub heading, I state that it may not be suitable enough to be used as an article. Because of this, it is unknown to me if this is a violation of that editing guideline. Tonkarooson (discuss). 05:56, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Tonkarooson you can freely move pages within your "user space"—any subpage of your user page. Unfortunately your intended use likely violates that guideline. The spirit is that Wikipedia is not a web host, and things in user space should be connected to the goal of creating an encyclopedia. Something that isn't going to be an article because it doesn't satisfy our notability, original research, or reliable source policies will probably be deleted because it doesn't contribute to the goal of building an encyclopedia. There's some wiggle-room for autobiographical content since it helps others find editors who can help find sources, do reviews, or collaborate on content, but even that isn't supposed to be or look like an article. I would recommend trying to find a stub on a topic you are passionate about and trying to improve it with citations to reliable sources rather than making a userpage for content that can't be added to Wikipedia. — Wug·a·po·des 19:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Would adding uncommon autistic traits a less stricter wiki like Fandom would do?
- Just to clear things up just in case, I am quite aware what Wikipedia is not. Tonkarooson (discuss). 01:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)