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Bananas
[edit]Hi. I'm Pikachu300. I'm here because I wanted to point out that Mr. Iwata was staring at those bananas because he wanted to show that he was making healthy changes to his diet to help overcome his tumor. He wasn't staring at them because he was trying to be funny. May I or someone else edit the page to say that, about the diet changes? Pikachu300 (talk) 00:43, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Do you have a citation to that claim? GamerPro64 01:02, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Going to go out on a limb and call shenanigans on this claim. The video with Mr. Iwata holding bananas was 2 years before his cancer was discovered. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 01:07, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Vandalism in progress
[edit]An anonymous person is vandalizing this page by adding an external link to http://www.livejournal.com/users/satoruiwata/ (supposedly Iwata's LiveJournal). I removed the link once yesterday and once today. Please be on the lookout for future vandalism of this page. Colin McMillen 23:15, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
Who's Your Daddy?
[edit]Wasn't sure why it wasn't done before, but I added Iwata's "Who's your daddy?" quote during Nintendo's E3 conference of 2005. The quote might not be completely accurate, as I had trouble understanding one part (the part about taking names sounds a little off) and I was also wondering if it would be appropriate to link to Reggie's page in the quote? Jgamekeeper 22:52, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I have an Iwata Image
[edit]I uploaded a Satoru Iwata Image that I own from when I was at his e3 2006 keynote. I am the head of lithcast.com by the way.
URL of image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Iwata-lithcast-low_res.png
Can this be used? DSCUBED 01:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DSCUBED (talk • contribs) 01:28, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
WikiProject class rating
[edit]This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
picture
[edit]The picture is a little blurry... Anybody have a clearer image of Iwata?172.134.128.124 15:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Iwata's position at Nintendo
[edit]According to a few reports that I have seen from Nintendo, "President and CEO of Nintendo" is not his acting title. It is in fact "President, Nintendo Co., Ltd." (He is not acting CEO) Here are a couple of the places I have seen this listed as such, let me know what you think before I make the change: http://www.nintendo.com/corp/annual_report.jsp http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/management/message.html http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/110426/index.html
This is how I plan to source them:
"Message From the President." Nintendo: Management Policy. N.p., n.d. Web. 13 Oct. 2011. <http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/management/message.html>.
Iwata, Satoru. Financial Results Briefing for FIscal Year End March 2011. Nintendo: IR Information. N.p., n.d. Web. 13 Oct. 2011. <http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/110426/index.html>.
Nintendo, Co. Nintendo Annual Report 2011. N.p., 31 Mar. 2011. Web. 13 Oct. 2011. <http://www.nintendo.com/corp/annual_report.jsp>.
Tdornenburg (talk) 20:34, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
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Death
[edit]Not being well versed enough in Wikipedia formatting I cannot make the changes myself, but Nintendo has just issued a released stating that Satoru Iwata has died: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2015/150713e.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.196.91.110 (talk) 23:55, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- lots of vandalism happening. Maybe we need a quick page protection now.--fireattack (talk) 00:18, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
He had the bile duct issue found in 2014 (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/stock/meeting/140627/index.html) The cancer must have gotten worse and he passed away today (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2015/150713e.pdf) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:558:6045:100:3DF5:6770:1A44:7AB8 (talk) 00:30, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Protection
[edit]I'm afraid I'm not too familiar with the practices of Wikipedia, but I feel this page needs to be protected. There's an unacceptable amount of vandalism being done. I'm going to try to review the protection policies, but if this could be contained quickly I would appreciate it. Ursonano (talk) 00:21, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Just got protected until the 20th of this month. I think its safe to say a lot of people are either just in shock by the announcement and don't want to come to terms with this or just people wanting to vandalize a page on Wikipedia. GamerPro64 00:22, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, well thanks for letting me know. Ursonano (talk) 00:40, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2015
[edit]Could somebody that's able to edit the page, please fix the trolls. And then keep it locked. Thank you. 99.45.30.40 (talk) 00:23, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Page has been protected and vandalism has been reverted. --The1337gamer (talk) 00:25, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2015
[edit]Change death date to "Died: Gods cannot die. (2015)". 50.178.236.103 (talk) 00:30, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Now that's just silly. GamerPro64 00:33, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- He does have a point though ;-D JAGUAR 00:35, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2015
[edit]Occupation should be changed to Former Occupation Godzillacraft (talk) 01:57, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
As he died whilst holding the position it is correct to leave it as his occupation. Spazturtle !DERP/3/PiM Talk 04:13, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
half mast
[edit]should be half-staff. mast is when in reference to ships. --Johnny Durianseed (talk) 06:01, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Done --ThomasO1989 (talk) 06:24, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- That's not true, all instances of flags being flown half way are universally known as "half-mast". If not universal, then Flags at Buckingham Palace is a good barometer. JAGUAR 14:22, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
NintenTO
[edit]Under the bolded Career heading, third paragraph starting with: the phrase "At the time of Iwata's promotion, Nintento was.." Nintento should be Nintendo.
Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2015
[edit]Please change "He was survived by his wife..." (under "Illness and Death") to "He is survived by his wife..." His wife is currently alive. Kingat95 (talk) 18:09, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Done Changed it. --The1337gamer (talk) 18:12, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Career - Nintendo
[edit]"Iwata voluntarily cut his salary in half to help Nintendo's poor finances and to better compete against Microsoft and Sony Computer Entertainment.[15][16] In 2015, Iwata put part of Nintendo's focus on the growing mobile game market, creating a partnership with mobile provider DeNA to publisher titles, as traditional hardware console sales began to falter..."
Should be changed to: "Iwata voluntarily cut his salary in half to help Nintendo's poor finances and to better compete against Microsoft and Sony Computer Entertainment.[15][16] In 2015, Iwata put part of Nintendo's focus on the growing mobile game market, creating a partnership with mobile provider DeNA to publish titles, as traditional hardware console sales began to falter..."
publisher changed to publish — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arithmaldor (talk • contribs) 18:44, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Done --The1337gamer (talk) 18:48, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Recent death tag
[edit]Why does the recent death tag at the top keep getting removed from the article? Isn't it supposed to stay up after a couple of days? GamerPro64 05:07, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- It's supposed to be only be used when the information may be moving fast and thus stability issues may be in play. In this case, the article's been rather stable so there's no need for that warning. We know exactly why he died and all the responses to that .--MASEM (t) 05:16, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Tumor resurface time
[edit]I find it misleading to say that it was in July that Iwata's bile duct tumor resurfaced. A picture dated June 23rd surfaced that showed him clearly in crippling health, in addition to him missing out on E3, and only appearing as a puppet. It had probably already resurfaced by then. --24.79.103.70 (talk) 18:15, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
- Have any sources to back that up? GamerPro64 18:34, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Additional material to be added
[edit]Collecting sources to expand negative aspect to amend balance issues (per FAC).
- Wii
- Iwata: If Wii Doesn't Outsell GameCube, We've Failed 1Up (June 20, 2006)
- DSi
- Nintendo profit drops for first time in 6 years Associated Press via Huffington Post (May 6, 2010)
- Related more to sales than the DSi
- 3DS
- Nintendo's Chief Defends 3DS Wall Street Journal (January 10, 2011)
- "One big shift for Nintendo with the launch of the 3DS is that it is working more closely with outside software developers, rather than relying mostly on popular in-house games to drive the initial hardware sales."
- Nintendo's Hardware Sales Aren't Looking so Hot Kotaku (July 28, 2011)
- "In short: hardware sales have fallen off a cliff"
- Nintendo 3DS price dropping to $170 Los Angeles Times (July 28, 2011)
Nintendo Stock Rout Costs Yamauchi $300 Million in One Day Bloomberg Business (July 29, 2011)- Nintendo President Takes Blame for 3DS, Getting 50 Percent Pay Cut Kotaku (July 29, 2011)
- Nintendo President Apologizes for 3DS Price Drop Digital Trends (August 3, 2011)
- Nintendo suffers ahead of Wii U launch The Telegraph (October 24, 2012)
- 3DS continually failed to reach "targets"
- Wii U failure
- Nintendo: We have failed to establish Wii U as a "worthy" Wii successor GameSpot (October 31, 2013)
- "Except for its backward compatibility with existing Wii software and accessories, we have so far failed to make propositions worthy of Wii U's position as a successor to the Wii system" – Iwata
- Nintendo’s Iwata Under Fire After Missing Wii U Forecast Bloomberg Business (January 21, 2014)
- Japanese Newspaper: Nintendo To Release Games On Phones Forbes (January 27, 2014)
- Exclusive: Inside Nintendo’s Bold Plan to Stay Vibrant for the Next 125 Years TIME (March 18, 2015)
- Note – Already included as a citation, more info can be gleamed from it
The comparatively weak response to the Wii U isn’t lost on Iwata. “Certainly I’m not satisfied with the current situation,” he says. “It may not be [people’s] first console of choice, but they recognize it as perhaps the best second console,” he adds. In truth, the Wii U may turn out to be a placeholder. “I think they’ve bought themselves time to figure out what that next monumental step forward is,” says Digital World Research analyst P.J. McNealy. Adds Yves Guillemot, CEO of games publisher Ubisoft: “The challenge for Nintendo now is to make sure their hardware continues to be convincing enough for people to buy.” Guillemot is confident the company can do that.
- Nintendo Is Eulogizing The Wii U While 'Star Fox Zero' Is Attempting To Save It Forbes (June 29, 2015)
- Shigeru Miyamoto: Why the Wii U crashed and burned Fortune (June 23, 2015)
- Nintendo President Iwata on the failure of Wii U and the future of Nintendo NX SiliconANGLE (July 2, 2015)
- The 75th Annual General Meeting of Shareholders Q&A - direct link to cited material
- Nintendo was right about the Wii U. We were wrong. Engadget (July 17, 2015)
- Positive side of the Wii U
- Glamorizing The Wii U's Failure Does Nintendo A Disservice Forbes (July 18, 2015)
Mobile market
- Nintendo not concerned about competition from Apple Engadget (March 4, 2010)
- Satoru Iwata, Nintendo CEO: Apple Is The 'Enemy Of The Future' Huffington Post (July 7, 2010)
- Nintendo + Smartphones? Iwata Says "Absolutely Not" IGN (September 13, 2011)
- "This is absolutely not under consideration...If we did this, Nintendo would cease to be Nintendo." – Iwata
Second Quarter Financial Results Briefing for the 74th Fiscal Term Ending March 2014 - Q & A Nintendo (2013)"...I believe that the era has ended when people play all kinds of games only on dedicated gaming systems." – Iwata (answer to Q2)
- Legacy
Seed planted remark from Takeda needed here
Cyclonebiskit (talk) 20:29, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Spoken Wikipedia
[edit]Hello editors. My wife frequently suffers from insomnia, and one thing we've discovered is that reading from Wikipedia is an effective way of . . . boring her to sleep. To that end, I have been reading Wikipedia articles to her for a few weeks (when she needs it). Having recently finished reading List of common misconceptions, I've been trying to decide what to do next. Today I had the idea that I could help out the community by recording the reading of the article, and contributing to the WP:SPEAK project. I plan on recording this article, Satoru Iwata soon (next time she needs some help). McKay (talk) 04:29, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Congratulations!
[edit]According to the FA template above, this article will be tomorrow's featured article. Tomorrow is the anniversary of Iwata-san's death, so it's a bittersweet thing, I guess.
As a warning, you may want to keep an eye out for vandalism, as this article will likely be actively being looked at (because of the anniversary tomorrow) and will be on Wikipedia's front page tomorrow (so it'll be easily accessible). -- Gestrid (talk) 22:35, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
- Just wanted to come by and say how grateful I am to have seen Iwata's face on the front page on this day. I'm very happy this article is FA class ^_^ ~Mable (chat) 08:46, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Holidays
[edit]Just for readers, nobody in Japan celebrates St Patrick's Day so Iwata working on St Patrick's Day wasn't a big deal since everyone in Japan who works , works on St Patrick's Day. Moreover, Valentine's Day isn't as big in Japan as it is elsewhere (obviously), so Iwata working on Valentine's Day wasn't a big deal either (since over 70 percent of Japan workers, work on Valentine's Day, over 80 percent of regular Wikipedians edit Wikipedia on Valentine's Day too). Holidays as mentioned in the article probably mean Japanese holidays, Independence Day for Japan, Christmas, New Years Eve-Day and possibly Helloween. 188.253.228.18 (talk) 06:26, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Should we update the infobox image?
[edit]I have just uploaded 2 to Wikimedia Commons. I would like a discussion about whether 1 or 2 would be better for the infobox. I prefer 2 because Iwata is facing towards the camera. This gives the reader a better view of his face. FunnyMath (talk) 05:26, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
On second thought, I think 3 is better because it gives a closer view of his face. FunnyMath (talk) 23:32, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
It has been over two weeks since I made this proposal and there have been no responses thus far. I will change the infobox image to my preference. If there are any objections, you may revert my edit, but please discuss in this section as well. FunnyMath (talk) 01:56, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia Library sources
[edit]The Wikipedia Library proved to be very useful in finding sources. For any editors trying to improve references, here are the Barron's articles, including two that are behind subscription walls:
2007
- Normal link (subscription-only): https://www.barrons.com/articles/SB117469289796447454
- Proquest: https://search-proquest-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/docview/201089889/fulltextPDF/FAD24CF141E541B3PQ/8
2008
- Normal link (incomplete): https://www.barrons.com/articles/SB120615216221756939
- Proquest (includes Iwata profile): https://search-proquest-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/docview/201034929/fulltextPDF/709BC28BA4A141ADPQ/2
2009
- Normal link: https://www.barrons.com/articles/SB123758900419300089
- Proquest: https://search-proquest-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/docview/201077027/fulltextPDF/20B5454A6B3D4F6APQ/1
2010
- Normal link (subscription-only): http://www.barrons.com/articles/SB126964409156568321/
- Proquest: https://search-proquest-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/docview/201118978/fulltextPDF/EC8B0666360B4D6CPQ/6 In table "OFF THE LIST", Name/Company/Comment: "Satoru Iwata Nintendo Formerly hot Wii game losing momentum."
MSX
[edit]Why there isn't anything about the games he worked on MSX? He was the producer on Rollerball (1984), Super Billiards (1983), Hole in One Professional (1985) and others like Gall Force and Eggerland Mystery.
A list of a lot of games he worked on can be seen on Mobygames — Preceding unsigned comment added by SLotman (talk • contribs) 12:52, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Chinese Wikipedia's WikiProject Video games is seeking help
[edit]Moved from WT:VG archive by MilkyDefer
As a part of the move to improve the quality of the WikiProject's high and top-importance articles, some editors have been translating the featured article Satoru Iwata into Chinese.
Most of the translation is done by me, and there are some people actively checking the sources, correcting my translation and creating relevant articles. During translation I encountered some disturbing issues with the article from English Wikipedia. Looks like there is little to no activity in the article's talk page, so I put them here.
- Early Life
Iwata purchased an HP-65, the first programmable calculator, in 1974.
As most of the sources claim that it is an HP-65, this particular source from 4Gamer, a reliable source, claims HP-67. Japanese Wikipedia adopts this and says HP-67. I personally believe that 4Gamer made a mistake, but I am not 100 percent sure. I checked against the original source (book by Inoue, translated into Chinese), and I see failed verification everywhere.The several simple number games Iwata produced, such as Volleyball and Missile Attack, made use of an electronic calculator he shared with his schoolmates.
This sentence cited two sources, and looks like the second one, from news.com.au, have nothing to do with this claim.Also, I would like to request someone to check the first source, from the book, on the(Verified by another zhwiki VG community member)Volleyball and Missile Attack
part.Tomohiko Uematsu, an engineering professor, noted Iwata's proficiency with software programming and remarked that Iwata could write programs faster and more accurately than any of his other students.
I checked on the original source in Japanese. It looks like that Tomohiko Uematsu is Mr. Iwata's classmate who later became a professor. Also, he compared Iwata's programming ability against other classmates, not his students.
- HAL Laboratory
Nintendo initially contacted several other developers to produce Open Tournament Golf; however, all of them declined as they did not believe the large amount of data could be stored within an NES cartridge.
I checked the source. It actually refers to Golf, not Open Tournament Golf. The source says that "...After that, we made F-1 Race, ...", it implies that the golf game is released before F-1 Race (1984), thus ruling out the possibility of NES Open Tournament Golf.
- Nintendo -> Early years (2000-2002)
Iwata also promoted Miyamoto, Genyo Takeda, Yoshihiro Mori, and Shinji Hatano to representative directors on the company's board of directors, equaling his own position.
Neither of the two sources support this sentence. This report from Nintendo partly supports this claim, but it showed that Iwata's becoming president and Miyamoto etc.'s becoming directors happened at the same time, so I couldn't verify that Miyamoto, etc. were promoted by Iwata.
- Nintendo -> Revitalization of the company (2003–2009) -> Wii
(Resolved)Due to his success, Barron's included Iwata on their list of the 30 top CEOs worldwide from 2007 to 2009.
This sentence cites two sources, one in 2007 and one in 2009. I couldn't verify that he is also included on the list in year 2008. Maybe that Barron's source also includes this information, but it requires subscription.
- Nintendo -> Financial downturn (2010–2014)
- The bar chart on the right looks like one-year off. For example, by saying "fiscal year 2008", the source actually links to a finacial report dated from April 1, 2007 to March 31, 2008. Maybe it should be called "fiscal year 2007"?
- No, that's correct. A "fiscal year" is how a company tracks its own accounting, and often does not line up with the calendar year if the company has significant seasonal shifts in revenue (e.g. large sales numbers in December). They're numbered based on the calendar year they end on, so if Nintendo's fiscal year is April to March, their fiscal year 2008 would end March 2008. --PresN 06:18, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- That said: going to Nintendo's Investor Relations page [1], their dropdown for fiscal year seems to suggest that "FY YYYY" means the fiscal year that ends on March 31, YYYY+1. (eg FY2014 ends March 31, 2015). This is the only place that I immediately see Nintendo say "FY2014" type of shortcuts, most of their docs are clearer as to "the fiscal year that ended March 31, 2015". --Masem (t) 19:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- So checking the sources the FY2006 ref in the table is really FY2005 as the report is as March 31, 2005. Same all the way down. --Masem (t) 20:07, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
The fiscal year is represented by the calendar year in which the period begins
, found in fiscal year#Japan. I'm pretty sure Nintendo follows this rule. Milky·Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 01:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- No, that's correct. A "fiscal year" is how a company tracks its own accounting, and often does not line up with the calendar year if the company has significant seasonal shifts in revenue (e.g. large sales numbers in December). They're numbered based on the calendar year they end on, so if Nintendo's fiscal year is April to March, their fiscal year 2008 would end March 2008. --PresN 06:18, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- The bar chart on the right looks like one-year off. For example, by saying "fiscal year 2008", the source actually links to a finacial report dated from April 1, 2007 to March 31, 2008. Maybe it should be called "fiscal year 2007"?
- Nintendo -> Mobile market and Switch (2015)
Although he acknowledged the practice as a viable means of promoting games in the short-term, he considered the model outdated and not a sound direction for core development.
Completely failed verification. The cited Engadget source have nothing to do with "free-to-start". The Time source mentioned nothing aboutpromoting games in the short term
. Also, according to the source, Mr. Iwata did not see "free-to-start" asoutdated
and "a bad direction for core development". What he said was that some people believe that traditional packaging model was outdated, but he did not think so. He believed that both "free-to-start" and traditional models have their suitable scenarios. Correct me if I am wrong.
- Illness and Death
Following Iwata's death, general directors Shigeru Miyamoto and Genyo Takeda temporarily managed the company together.
Miyamoto and Takeda are not general directors. They are representative directors. The CNNMoney source didn't say that they were general directors, either.(Resolved, as nearly every funeral in Japanese customs are related to Buddism)Buddhist funeral services for Iwata were held in Kyoto on July 16 and 17. Despite stormy weather produced by Typhoon Nangka, an estimated 4,100 people attended to pay their respects
I checked the three sources in this sentence. Excluding the WSJ source which requires a subscription, the remaining two sources made no mention toBuddhist
. One of them mentioned "Japanese custom", and I didn't really understand what's the link between buddist and custom. Also to mention, theTyphoon Nangka
part is not direct enough. Sources mentioned that there was a typhoon, without saying its name. I think that there was only one typhoon in Japan at that time so I believe that might be fine.and his ashes were buried at an undisclosed place in Kyoto
Source did not claim that. It only claimed that his remains were cremated, but made no mention of its burying place.
As the source checking is still ongoing, there might be more problems throwing out by our community. Please help us by clarifying the facts from the article.
With gratitude, the sincere one representing the Chinese Wikipedia WikiProject Video games community: Milky·Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 15:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- @MilkyDefer: did you reach out to the user who wrote the article? GamerPro64 17:41, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Not quite yet... Shall I ping them? @Cyclonebiskit and Masem: Milky·Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 17:49, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- I didn't write most of the lines in question but I can help on the Barron's: use this reference: Fillbeck, Greg; Gorman, Raymond; Zhao, Zin (2012). "Barron's Survey: The World's Best CEOs'". Accounting and Finance Research. 1 (1): 18–37. doi:10.5430/afr.v1n1p18. which you can find via this link [2]. Iwata's on the list from 2007 through 2009 (including 2008), but off in 2010. --Masem (t) 18:07, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- Alternatively this should be free to read for the 2008 list (the graphic is really small but if you use the browser to zoom, he's listed there). --Masem (t) 18:15, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- That's of great help, and I have successfully verified that. Milky·Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 03:25, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Masem: Seems that Cyclonebiskit isn't around. Whom can I turn to? Milky·Defer >Please ping me while replying to me...
- Not quite yet... Shall I ping them? @Cyclonebiskit and Masem: Milky·Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 17:49, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
@GamerPro64, Masem, Cyclonebiskit, and PresN: Looks like not many people is caring about this thread. Is it a good idea that I put it into a Featured Article Review? Milky·Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 16:53, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi MilkyDefer I just saw this talk page discussion. If there is a concern about sourcing, I would bring this to FAR. The first step is to post an official notice on this talk page, outlining your concerns. An example of one of my notices is here: [3] If an editor does not try to fix the concern in two weeks, you can place it at FAR by following the instructions at the top of the page at WP:FAR. Please feel free to ping me if you have any questions. Z1720 (talk) 15:06, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Z1720: We are currently going through a slow-yet-steady process of verification. We are not making real progress in recent weeks because the graduation season is drawing near and I am, in fact, dealing with my graduation issues. We are currently moving on to the verification of the book sources. One of the book sources cited has been translated into Chinese, and the considerable amount of inconsistencies between the Chinese book source and the English article content has made our community question the accuracy of the Chinese (or English) translation. We have decided to check out the original Japanese version of the book for a definite answer, which would take some time. We are also facing other difficulties of the book sources. When we are done, I think this article definitely deserves an FAR. Milky·Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 15:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- @MilkyDefer: It's great that editors are working on verifying the article's info. There's no rush to complete this, so focus on graduation stuff first.
- The advantage of posting a notice now is that notices must be on a talk page for at least 2 weeks before the FA can be listed at FAR. If you post the notice today, you can list the article at FAR when you have more time after graduation season, instead of waiting 2 weeks. A notice also alerts other editors of what needs to be completed and will encourage them to help. It is completely up to you, and if you need any help during this process (how to post notices, doing a copyedit of the article, etc.) feel free to ping me. Z1720 (talk) 18:27, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Z1720: We are currently going through a slow-yet-steady process of verification. We are not making real progress in recent weeks because the graduation season is drawing near and I am, in fact, dealing with my graduation issues. We are currently moving on to the verification of the book sources. One of the book sources cited has been translated into Chinese, and the considerable amount of inconsistencies between the Chinese book source and the English article content has made our community question the accuracy of the Chinese (or English) translation. We have decided to check out the original Japanese version of the book for a definite answer, which would take some time. We are also facing other difficulties of the book sources. When we are done, I think this article definitely deserves an FAR. Milky·Defer >Please ping me while replying to me... 15:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)