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*'''Strong support''': or this [[User:Spitfire|Spitfire |
*'''Strong support''': or this <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Spitfire|<b>Spitfire</b>]] : [[User_talk:Spitfire|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;"> Chat </font>]] </span></small> 09:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Strong support''': and this [[User:Spitfire|Spitfire |
*'''Strong support''': and this <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Spitfire|<b>Spitfire</b>]] : [[User_talk:Spitfire|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;"> Chat </font>]] </span></small> 09:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
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[[User:Simply south|Simply south]] ([[User talk:Simply south|talk]]) 09:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Strong support''': We need far more genius like this in the MOTD [[User:Spitfire|Spitfire |
*'''Strong support''': We need far more genius like this in the MOTD <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Spitfire|<b>Spitfire</b>]] : [[User_talk:Spitfire|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;"> Chat </font>]] </span></small> 09:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Strong Eureka''' for all 4: We need far more epic failz like this in teh MOTD :D <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Chamal_N|<b>Chamal</b>]] : [[User_talk:Chamal_N|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;"> Chat </font>]] </span></small> 11:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
*'''Strong Eureka''' for all 4: We need far more epic failz like this in teh MOTD :D <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Chamal_N|<b>Chamal</b>]] : [[User_talk:Chamal_N|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;"> Chat </font>]] </span></small> 11:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
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**'''Comment''': Are these supposed to be scheduled for four consecutive days? <small>p.s. why has everyone adopted [[User:Pedro|Pedro]]'s sig? Is it for April Fool's?</small> [[User talk:Queenie|<font face="Candara" color="black">Queenie</font>]] 11:59, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
**'''Comment''': Are these supposed to be scheduled for four consecutive days? <small>p.s. why has everyone adopted [[User:Pedro|Pedro]]'s sig? Is it for April Fool's?</small> [[User talk:Queenie|<font face="Candara" color="black">Queenie</font>]] 11:59, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Conditional Weak Support''' - If the first link is changed as Spitfire suggests, this would have my weak support. This quote, though dry and boring, is moderately appropriate for a slow news day. [[User:Nutiketaiel|Nutiketaiel]] ([[User talk:Nutiketaiel|talk]]) 11:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC) |
*'''Conditional Weak Support''' - If the first link is changed as Spitfire suggests, this would have my weak support. This quote, though dry and boring, is moderately appropriate for a slow news day. [[User:Nutiketaiel|Nutiketaiel]] ([[User talk:Nutiketaiel|talk]]) 11:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' per political bias... –<strong>[[User:Juliancolton|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36648B">Juliancolton</span>]]</strong> | [[User_talk:Juliancolton|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:gray">''Talk''</span></sup>]] 16:35, 31 March 2009 (UTC) |
*'''Oppose''' per political bias... –<strong>[[User:Juliancolton|<span style="font-family:Script MT;color:#36648B">Juliancolton</span>]]</strong> | [[User_talk:Juliancolton|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:gray">''Talk''</span></sup>]] 16:35, 31 March 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' Sorry, but I don't see how we (wikipedia) need "change" as such, change would suggest that we would be replacing what already existed at wikipedia <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Spitfire|<b>Spitfire</b>]] : [[User_talk:Spitfire|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;"> Chat </font>]] </span></small> 21:15, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
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===[[George Jean Nathan|→]] [[WP:EDIAN|No one]] can [[WP:DR|think clearly]] when his [[WP:BREAK|fists are clenched]].=== |
===[[George Jean Nathan|→]] [[WP:EDIAN|No one]] can [[WP:DR|think clearly]] when his [[WP:BREAK|fists are clenched]].=== |
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Okay, I've stopped it with the new ideas
Simply south (talk) 10:13, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
And yet another new idea
Simply south (talk) 09:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Strong support: or this Spitfire : Chat 09:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
New idea
Simply south (talk) 09:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Strong support: and this Spitfire : Chat 09:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
New idea
Simply south (talk) 09:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Strong support: We need far more genius like this in the MOTD Spitfire : Chat 09:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Strong Eureka for all 4: We need far more epic failz like this in teh MOTD :D Chamal : Chat 11:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: Are these supposed to be scheduled for four consecutive days? p.s. why has everyone adopted Pedro's sig? Is it for April Fool's? Queenie 11:59, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose - Wikipedia is not the place for new ideas. Take that craziness over to Conservapedia. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:08, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
→ We need change.
President Barack Obama. 男らしい冬 01:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: by WP:userpage, do you mean WP:EDIANS? SpitfireTally-ho! 08:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- Conditional Weak Support - If the first link is changed as Spitfire suggests, this would have my weak support. This quote, though dry and boring, is moderately appropriate for a slow news day. Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose per political bias... –Juliancolton | Talk 16:35, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Sorry, but I don't see how we (wikipedia) need "change" as such, change would suggest that we would be replacing what already existed at wikipedia Spitfire : Chat 21:15, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
→ No one can think clearly when his fists are clenched.
I've always maintained that a break is in order once people start to get angry at each other on wikipedia SpitfireTally-ho! 09:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose - Linking WP:BREAK to "fists are clenched" equates a Wiki-break with preparation for violence. Not a great message, I think. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:00, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: Blah, It's not meant to say that at all. What would you say to just linking the entire thing to WP:BREAK? Or is that still suffering the same problem? SpitfireTally-ho! 17:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Reply - Still seems like the same problem to me. How about "→ No one can think clearly when his fists are clenched." Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:49, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: Blah, It's not meant to say that at all. What would you say to just linking the entire thing to WP:BREAK? Or is that still suffering the same problem? SpitfireTally-ho! 17:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
You will never stand taller than when you kneel to help a child.
I like this one, personally SpitfireTally-ho! 09:29, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Support - This one looks good to me. I can see how some would have problems with referring to new editors as children, but it's a metaphor, and it seems apt. I say go for it. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:26, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Support - I like it. –Juliancolton | Talk 16:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
→ You can`t start a fire without a spark.
Another slightly simply one, I know we get quite a lot of FA related mottos, but... SpitfireTally-ho! 09:08, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Support - It's fine. There's nothing inherently wrong with WP:FA related mottos; after all, that's why we approve so many of them. Still, the quote could also work with links that describe how Wikipedia as a whole grows from spark to fire instead of a single article. I can't think of a set of links right off the top of my head that would express that, though... If anyone else comes up with a set of links that express that idea well, that would have my strong support. Until then, though, there's nothing wrong with the quote as currently linked. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:28, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Support - Sure. –Juliancolton | Talk 17:49, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
→ Wikipedia: multilingual, Web-based, free-content, collaborative, voluntary.... WE NEED YOU!
Another excerpt taken from Wikipedia:About. The original text is:
Wikipedia, the multilingual, Web-based, free-content encyclopedia, a collaborative project created by volunteers from all around the world; anyone can edit it.
I tried to turn it into a motto, and I am not sure if it runs well. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Weak Support - It's good, and I like that the links are all to the mainspace, since the quote was taken from the... wikipediaspace (or whatever you call it). I think the "voluntary" link would also be better off with a mainspace link, though, to keep the theme throughout. What about "voluntary"? As for the last link, I don't think that WP:TMM was a very inspired choice; why not link it directly to Special:UserLogin/signup? Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:35, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I changed it in a minor way from the original: "day > land", "man > person" and "rebuild > build", hope this is ok? Any ideas for a link for "days of peace" or "together"? SpitfireTally-ho! 06:40, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Support. Marx? lol –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Support - I don't think you need a link for "together" or "days of peace," as they seem pretty self explanatory in the context of the quote and the other links (especially together; linking that would just make it look a little cluttered). If you insist, though, how about "days of peace"? Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:38, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Support –Juliancolton | Talk 21:31, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
→ By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!
Just a little fun. Maybe not very good. SpitfireTally-ho!
- Weak Support. I'm perplexed about this one. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:20, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Weak Support - I see what you're going for, but the connections are a little tenuous. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:39, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Weak oppose - There's nothing blatantly wrong with it, but I'm not sure of what it's trying to say. –Juliancolton | Talk 17:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Comment - It's trying to say that we editors (the "men of the west," i.e. the good guys in the Lord of the Rings) need to stand up and defend the things we love against orcs, trolls, and the like. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:52, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
→ I know a lot about love. I've seen it, centuries and centuries of it, and it was the only thing that made watching this world bearable. All those wars. Pain, lies, hate... It made me want to turn away and never look down again. But when I see the way that mankind loves... You could search to the furthest reaches of the universe and never find anything more beautiful.
A nice soppy one, although, maybe it's... Well, vote as you see fit, SpitfireTally-ho! 04:41, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Support. Two links to WP:Wikipedia ... but it's a good one at last. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:24, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
ConditionalSupport - I like it, but the second link to WP:WIKIPEDIA has to go. I'm fine with double-linking if it helps drive home a point, but this one throws off the entire meaning of the quote since WP:WIKIPEDIA is first linked to "world" and second linked to "universe." I don't think that "universe" needs to be linked at all, but if you do want to link it, it needs to be something else. "Universe" maybe, or something like that. Nutiketaiel (talk) 17:44, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Weak oppose - Sorry, but it seems more like rambling than a motto. –Juliancolton | Talk 17:46, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Commment Removed double link as both the supports so far requested it to be so. SpitfireTally-ho! 17:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Reply - Then I'll change my view to "Support." Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:02, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Commment Removed double link as both the supports so far requested it to be so. SpitfireTally-ho! 17:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
→ Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
Mmmm, not so sure about this one, again, feel free to oppose, please suggest new links, specially for "little security", cheers SpitfireTally-ho! 20:57, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Conditional Weak Oppose- First off, I don't really like the links. You're implying that WP:IAR and the rest of the policies and guidelines are mutually exclusive, and they're not. They live together in a complex harmony riddled with consonants and vowels. Anyway, secondly, I'm pretty sure this has been used before. That's why my "weak oppose" is conditional; if it HAS been used before, it would change to "strong oppose." Oh, and we always feel free to oppose every motto. You really don't need to invite us to do so every time you post one. ;-) Nutiketaiel (talk) 11:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)- Comment: don't miss this edit summary ;p. I did think of what you mention about IAR and the Policies and guidelines being the "same" and my suggesting they were not, but couldn't find a better link for "little security". As for having been used before, it may have been, but not with the same wording, so may be hard to find :\, so for now I'd just leave it as "Strong Oppose". SpitfireTally-ho! 11:43, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- Reply - I'm having trouble thinking of a good link for it, too, but I don't think we should approve it in its current form. It just sends a bad message, in my opinion. I herevy change my opinion to Oppose. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:36, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: don't miss this edit summary ;p. I did think of what you mention about IAR and the Policies and guidelines being the "same" and my suggesting they were not, but couldn't find a better link for "little security". As for having been used before, it may have been, but not with the same wording, so may be hard to find :\, so for now I'd just leave it as "Strong Oppose". SpitfireTally-ho! 11:43, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- Support!!! How about adding WP:Goals (Wikipedia:Five pillars) to deserve neither??? –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Comment - I can't say I really see the connection there. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Reopened - no consensus. Simply south (talk) 21:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
→ Ab ovo usque ad mala
(“From the egg to the apples” or “From beginning to end”)
Quintus Horatius Flaccus (65 BC-8 BC), Sermonum Liber primus, Satire 1.3, Omnibus hoc vitium est ("Everyone has this flaw") (35 BC). It is based on the Roman main meal typically beginning with an egg dish and ending with fruit, similar to the American English idiom "soup to nuts". It means "from beginning to end". The links are about the development od an article, from Stub to FA. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:16, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Support - Looks good to me. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:23, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Weak support - There's nothing blatantly wrong with it, but the FA-related mottoes do get a bit boring. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:14, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Weak oppose It's kind of nice, but also rather bland and unoriginal. If there's a better way to do the links...? (I'm not much of a motto writer :\) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IceUnshattered (talk • contribs) 15:27, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Conditional support. Definitely needs better links. If the change has better links, then I will definitely give my support. Wikiert T S C 21:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Age quod agis
(“Do what you are doing” or “Do well whatever you do”)
Source unknown. Used as the motto of several Catholic schools. Nominated in Do what you do, and win $100 while you're at it! by AH1 and rejected. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:16, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Weak Oppose - I see what you're going for here, but frankly it just seems like a random latin statement if we can't source it. Just something John-icus Doe-icus said on his way to the forum. Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:25, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Weak oppose - Unfortunately, I'm going to have to agree with Nutiketaiel. I would never have known what this quote even means had you not provided a translation. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:13, 23 March 2009 (UTC)