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Today's story is about Maria Callas, on her centenary, - she had no DYK of her own, so I combined two that mentioned her ;) - It would anyway be impossible to write something to the point in one sentence. - Aaron Copland died OTD, and Jerome Kohl (mentioned in November) said something wise on Copland's talk. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:09, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today's story is about the opera director whose work you saw, because it's his birthday today ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

... and today, to Paris (29 Nov) with a visit to the Palais Garnier, - to match the story of Medea Amiranashvili, - don't miss listening to her expressive voice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:39, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My story today is about Michael Robinson, - it's an honour to have known him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for Tolui, introduced: "Three million deaths in two sieges in two and a bit months; the mass rape of an enemy army; extraordinary military achievements; dying in a shamanic ritual to appease the curses of angered spirits; his wife and sons eventually ruling a continent... all these things were (allegedly) in a life and death's work for Tolui, the youngest son of Genghis Khan."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:59, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Today, I have a special story to tell, of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I heard from several people that they never heard of this composer. He was portrayed by Gainsborough which would give him notability. Please consider showing that image for DYK. Today, we have the image of Bach that everyone knows already ;) The other one is much better ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:07, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The trouble is Gerda Arendt it's an extremely dull hook—it basically says the same thing twice and follows it up with a fairly mediocre fact. The current picture slot in that prep is also not very interesting, but it doesn't make me fall asleep.

By contrast, the Wie liegt die Stadt so wüst hook is pretty much the opposite—it is so very interesting and evocative to everyone, that I am seriously considering ignoring the fact it violates WP:DYKIMG and putting it in the picture slot... ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:18, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The hook was based on the image creating the attention: great painter, great dog. - The man was - together with Bach's son - the concert organizer in London, a celebrity, and then forgotten. Can we help him to some attention around his 300th birthday? What hook would you suggest? Should we name the more than 100 newly found compositions? - The one promoted ran on the German Wikipedia, 5k+ views, with the image. Of course the "Wie liegt die Stadt so wüst" is stronger, but do we have to mention a war to be "interesting"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:28, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We are helping him to some attention Gerda Arendt, although I doubt he'll care very much. Some articles just don't make strong hooks, and I see no problem with that. The "Wie liegt die Stadt so wüst" hook isn't interesting because of the Dresden mention, but because of what it says. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:00, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, it's way past midnight here, and I feel that I can't express well what I mean: the hook is not about the composer but about the catalogue which is an outstanding work of research and diligence. It helps to establish the notability of the book's subject, and the painting does that better than the anniversary which is past anyway. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean the repetition of his name: I couldn't think of an elegant way to avoid it, but perhaps you could? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:17, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I slept and can hopefully think more clearly:

ALT2a: ... that the new Catalogue of Works of Carl Friedrich Abel, describing now 420 compositions of the viol virtuoso (pictured), was introduced at a festival for his tercentenary?

• trying to avoid the repititions
• trying to say that it's not just a list of works but with detailed descriptions
• mention that he was a virtuoso on the viol - he was the last, btw. - at least the rare instrument could be gathered from the image if it was taken

I'm still on my knees begging to take the image, because:

• It provides the information that he was famous enough to be portrayed by a leading artist of the period.
• It shows him as a player as well as a composer.
• It adds that the center of life of this German musician was London.
• It is a great image, worth showing to our curious readers.

I love the little dog, - it adds so much about the person. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:32, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda Arendt, I don't have the authority to unilaterally approve and promote a new hook. It is simply a sad fact that not all hooks nominated with images can be promoted with them, because there isn't the space. If you want to take this further, please make a request at WT:DYK. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:42, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What do think of unpromoting the article, and perhaps say in the nom why the hook made you feel sleepy? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:44, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ps: I also would have two hooks in prep4, both about classical music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:16, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's true. I'll swap the Kihwan Sim one. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:19, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension. Happy Holidays to you and yours. Always a pleasure to see your work. ―Buster7 ☎

Patient Zero^talk 06:16, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

		The DYK holiday award goes to?
		Thank you for allowing me to work with you in this section of the project. I want to wish you happy holidays! Lightburst (talk) 19:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Genghis Khan you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Borsoka -- Borsoka (talk) 06:03, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article Genghis Khan you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Genghis Khan for comments about the article, and Talk:Genghis Khan/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Borsoka -- Borsoka (talk) 06:02, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good job. Queen of Hearts ❤️ (she/they 🎄 🏳️‍⚧️) 03:42, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How to create my user page? --Silo34 (talk) 20:21, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Silo34, simply go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Silo34 and click the link that says "Start the User:Silo34 page." ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:22, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

	The Editor's Barnstar
	For taking such an important vital article like Genghis Khan to GA. Nice work! ~ Prodraxis (Merry Christmas!) 00:27, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Prodraxis! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, AirshipJungleman29. I've nominated this article for DYK, and we need to promptly address the tags you added. Please either edit them yourself or provide suggestions on how we can resolve this issue. Thank you.–Owais Al Qarni (talk) 16:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Owais Al Qarni, please try to address the overuse of elegant variation, MOS:PUFFERY, MOS:SAID, and other academic boosterism. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:07, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, AirshipJungleman29! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:50, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:50, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Jenhawk777! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:22, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Gologmine. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. You appear to hounding another user "Gologmine". That would a violation agains community rules WP:HOUND. Next time it would be brought to admin discussion. Thank you. Gologmine (talk) 02:53, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free Gologmine; just remember no WP:CANVASSing that time. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:18, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2024!

Hello AirshipJungleman29, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2024. Happy editing, Jerium (talk) 16:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply] Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Jerium (talk) 16:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

		The Invisible Barnstar
		Thank you for your participation in the Articles for Creation's November 2023 Backlog Drive! You made a total of 17 reviews, for a total of 20 points. – robertsky (talk) 06:52, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

– robertsky (talk) 06:52, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas, AirshipJungleman29! Wishing you Season's Greetings and a Happy Winter Solstice! As the year comes to a close, I want to express my appreciation for your dedicated efforts on Wikipedia and extend heartfelt thanks for your assistance throughout the years. May the holiday season bring you and your loved ones abundant joy, good health, and prosperity.

RV (talk) 17:26, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

		Season's Greetings
		Wishing everybody a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! The Nativity scene on the Pulpit in the Pisa Baptistery by Nicola Pisano is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 02:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Johnbod and RAJIVVASUDEV:, and the same to you! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:23, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not de-promote the hooks based on WP:DYKBOTTOMPREP: it is only a guideline. Occasionally I or others will fill certain hook-slots in the last prep set as appropriate hooks are found and reviewed. We have room to move hooks within sets by filling other slots and there are were three empty spots in the last set. Thanks for considering and Happy holidays! Bruxton (talk) 18:17, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bruxton, it's your funeral: I have been warned not to do that in the past. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:21, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the concerns about the last prep. My greater point is that it is abrupt to revert someone's work without discussion. Prior to promoting a hook I do quite a bit of checking, and with an image I have to check for license and FOP. I also see how many queue spots are available so that an admin can promote a set to queue to make and free up a new empty set.

It is an unpleasant surprise to me when I am reverted without any message or ping. I only noticed this revert because the nominator pinged me to discuss question about the word "Filipino". I think the best practice is to discuss with the editor. I am glad to work with you and glad to know you. Your work in DYK is much appreciated. Bruxton (talk) 18:54, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies Bruxton, I'll make sure to ping you in DYK-related matters in the future. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:58, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]