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- I love it and I'll wield it proudly, thanks @PresN! Hey man im josh (talk) 14:24, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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Jack Rankin
[edit]Hello,
A few months ago I had put up a Wikipedia page for Jack Rankin, who is a British politician who was standing in the 2024 general election. It was taken down as he was yet to be elected. However, he has been voted in this morning: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/uk/constituencies/E14001588
Do you mind reinstating it and I'll edit it to be up to date as soon as it's up? MHan2145 (talk) 13:15, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @MHan2145: I've restored the page and moved it to your user space at User:MHan2145/Jack Rankin (British politician). You are free to update the page and move it back to main space, as he would now meet WP:NPOL, though the page could definitely use some work. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).
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July
[edit]Hi. You draftified this article in May. Looks like yet another incomplete version has been incorporated by user Bryant. zoglophie•talk• 06:48, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hold on, the draft and the main article exist, but the main article appears to be much longer than the draft. Template:48JCLsignature 11:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Template:Washington Redskins 1991 NFL draft picks and Template:Washington Redskins 1992 NFL draft picks
[edit]Looks like you got the two years mixed up. Could you please straighten that all out:) Thanks. --DB1729talk 16:07, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- What the hell... I see what happened, it was because of the sortkey that I fixed here. I made the moves with an excel sheet I created, and based on the sort being out of order (from the category), they were ordered wrong in my sheet. I've moved the pages around to fix this. Thanks for catching this @DB1729! Hey man im josh (talk) 16:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- You might want to check through your latest moves in this area. I found another pair the same way: Template:Washington Redskins 1971 NFL draft picks/Template:Washington Redskins 1972 NFL draft picks. --DB1729talk 16:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @DB1729: It looks like this is all related to bad sort names. I have a set I was just about to run that I verified and checked @DB1729. If only I could beat the person who mistakenly added the wrong sort keys! Blech, before I used AWB I suppose since I didn't just use {{subst:title year}}. I have 5 teams left to run through, and I'm checking them all now. But, based on the reason for the screw up, I do feel relatively good about it. I know exactly how I plan to check and verify them all. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- Okay great, Josh. I'm just glad to see the bad sortkey person wasn't me;) DB1729talk 16:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @DB1729: It looks like this is all related to bad sort names. I have a set I was just about to run that I verified and checked @DB1729. If only I could beat the person who mistakenly added the wrong sort keys! Blech, before I used AWB I suppose since I didn't just use {{subst:title year}}. I have 5 teams left to run through, and I'm checking them all now. But, based on the reason for the screw up, I do feel relatively good about it. I know exactly how I plan to check and verify them all. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- You might want to check through your latest moves in this area. I found another pair the same way: Template:Washington Redskins 1971 NFL draft picks/Template:Washington Redskins 1972 NFL draft picks. --DB1729talk 16:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Yuna Kim A-class assessment
[edit]Hi Josh, so Yuna Kim is up for an A-class assessment and it's currently languishing because we haven't been able to find a third reviewer. This bio is the first A-class assessment by WikiProject Figure Skating; see here for more information. I know you don't tend to work on figure skating articles regularly, but you seem to be an knowledgeable and experienced editor who likes sports, so would you mind helping us out? It'd be muchly appreciated. Thanks, Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Figureskatingfan, I'm sorry, I just realized I never responded to this! I appreciate your interest and kind words, but I have a fair bit on my plate right now and I'm not familiar enough with the project's guidelines to be a good reviewer in this case. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yah, I know about having a full plate. We're getting a bit desperate, but thanks for the response. If you change you mind... ;) Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Jaguars
[edit]I'm congratulating you, Josh. Promotion message be damned, lol. Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks John! I only have three more lists ready to nominate... I think I need to build my backlog up. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome, you deserve it. ONLY THREE?? Yeah, that sounds good ..you build it and I'll congratulate you on building it. ;) See you later. John.
- LOL. I finally beat the promotion message. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome, you deserve it. ONLY THREE?? Yeah, that sounds good ..you build it and I'll congratulate you on building it. ;) See you later. John.
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Thanks for participating in the June 2024 backlog drive!
You scored 223 points while adding citations to articles during WikiProject Reliability's first {{citation needed}} backlog drive, earning you this citation barnstar. Thanks for helping out! |
Pichpich (talk) 21:51, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Triple Crown?
[edit]About this, I thought featured topics were considered a piece of featured content instead of a piece of good content, as shown on many other Triple Crowns. Excuse me if I'm wrong, I'm a bit of an idiot. — 48JCL 00:13, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- @48JCL: I believe it would qualify as a topic, based on the following:
...for featured topics they need to have been a major contributor to at least two featured articles within it as well. A topic counts as an additional good or featured item, even if all the individual content within it has already been counted separately for the award.
- Any type of featured content counts toward a Triple Crown. Editors may mix and match different types of featured material when requesting the Imperial Triple Crown Jewels and beyond.
- I might be wrong, but either way, I'm excited for the possibility of my first featured topic. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I would never get a WP:FT, (or even a WP:GT really wish I could though. — 48JCL 00:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- @48JCL: I don't do GAs, so this is my only shot at it. Hoping for the best based on what appear to be flexibility built into the intentions.... Hey man im josh (talk) 00:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I would never get a WP:FT, (or even a WP:GT really wish I could though. — 48JCL 00:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Promotion of List of Jacksonville Jaguars seasons
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Hey Josh!
[edit]Hey, I hope you are doing well. I want to express my deepest apologies for what happened the last time we talked. At that time, I wanted to explain to you personally on Discord why I was having those types of conversations (which I acknowledge was my fault). Nearly two months have passed, and I want to request that you unban my Discord account from the Wikipedia group. I hope you will give me one more chance. I promise I will not do anything that violates the policies. Thanks, and happy editing, Josh. GrabUp - Talk 09:12, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Grabup: What was your Discord name? Hey man im josh (talk) 12:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. My discord name is wiki_grabup GrabUp - Talk 13:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Grabup: I'm unblocked you from the Discord server. For clarity sake, even though I believe you do understand now, do not directly message admins from the server as a form of forumshopping. Reaching out to admins is not prohibited, but going around to different ones until you get the answer you want is not acceptable. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:13, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the unblock Josh, I truly understand what you said. Happy Editing. GrabUp - Talk 14:15, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Grabup: I'm unblocked you from the Discord server. For clarity sake, even though I believe you do understand now, do not directly message admins from the server as a form of forumshopping. Reaching out to admins is not prohibited, but going around to different ones until you get the answer you want is not acceptable. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:13, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. My discord name is wiki_grabup GrabUp - Talk 13:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
I'd like to ask your advice regarding this article, which was rejected for "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources.".
The three references I've attached all
- dedicate multiple pages or sections to SwiftLint, according to their tables of contents.
- are references to published print books, published or distributed through mainstream publishers (Manning, Springer, etc)
- are independent of the subject
I'm not sure what I'm missing to meet the in-depth, reliable, secondary, independent criteria.
I'd totally agree that the wording of my link to the references ("It is the most commonly recommended Swift linter") is slightly clumsy, but in terms of the references themselves, can you give me any clue as to what I'm missing? Mildm8nnered (talk) 14:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Mildm8nnered. Thank you for your efforts, but I don't have a ton of time on my hands at the moment. Your best bet is asking at the AfC help desk, which can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
This was one of the articles that were moved, but can't be reverted to the original title. I'd appreciate if it can be reverted to the original title pending discussion. Howard the Duck (talk) 21:02, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Howard the Duck: Done. In the future, this request is best made at WP:RM/TR, where someone can help you out in a more timely manner than I was able to this time. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:43, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Promotion of Detroit Lions draft picks (1970–present)
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The Barnstar of Diligence |
Thanks for all the work you do at WP:FLC (and at the Discord guiding people about featured lists)! It is very appreciated. :) Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:30, 15 July 2024 (UTC) |
- @Staraction: Thank you so much for the kind words and taking time out of your day to give me this! I very much appreciate it =) Hey man im josh (talk) 22:00, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
FL thoughts?
[edit]I am planning to get A. Sreekar Prasad filmography as a FL and I haven't worked on FL/GA articles before. Do you think it's a suitable article? He has worked on more than 600 films in his career. Should the list be complete or can it include only the well known films? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 20:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira: I have no doubts it can get there, but it's not referenced well enough at this point (recently created, so I'm of course assuming it'll become more well referenced). You'll also need to incorporate row scopes and columns for accessibility. Lucky for you, we've got 149 featured lists based on actor's filmography already, so there's plenty to compare your recent creation against when considering how to improve it and prepare it further =) Hey man im josh (talk) 20:14, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- I did glance through many of them on the list earlier but couldn't find any about an Editor. The main concern I have is whether it is okay for an article to have a list of 600+ films with an inline citation for each? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 20:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Jeraxmoira: I don't see why not. Ideally you'll be able to reuse a number of the references to trim down on things a bit, but there's no reason you couldn't have 600 references. It would just really suck for the source reviewer. Hey man im josh (talk) 03:36, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- I did glance through many of them on the list earlier but couldn't find any about an Editor. The main concern I have is whether it is okay for an article to have a list of 600+ films with an inline citation for each? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 20:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
It was hiding!
[edit]A BIG BELATED CONGRATS, JOSH! Nothing came over on my watchlist. I should stick with my old way of looking for things, lol. Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:54, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks again John! Hey man im josh (talk) 12:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Botswana WHS
[edit]Hi, I see that the List of World Heritage Sites in Botswana has been promoted. Do I get a credit as a co-nominator as well? Cheers :) Tone 06:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tone: I see what happened, I had a similar issue once as a co-nom. I've tweaked the nomination in hopes that the bot properly updates Wikipedia:Featured lists promoted in 2024 (which is what WP:WBFLN is based on). I've also manually given you the talk page message for the time being. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:25, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! I guess the bot will update it tomorrow. Great job with maintaining the FL nominations, appreciated. Tone 14:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Tone. Just pinging you to let you know that Wikipedia:Featured lists promoted in 2024 updated and the bot properly included your name as a nominator. WP:WBFLN will count it towards your promotions. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Perfect, thanks! Tone 07:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Tone. Just pinging you to let you know that Wikipedia:Featured lists promoted in 2024 updated and the bot properly included your name as a nominator. WP:WBFLN will count it towards your promotions. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! I guess the bot will update it tomorrow. Great job with maintaining the FL nominations, appreciated. Tone 14:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
UAA bot
[edit]Hi, Josh. I saw just today that the bot was disabled due to JamesR being deceased (RIP to him). Do you ever think in the future you're going to develop a bot that will do UAA work? (I'm not sure if there's any other bot that can operate UAA) NoobThreePointOh (talk) 12:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- @NoobThreePointOh: I was sad to hear about JamesR's passing... As for the bot, I won't be the person to set something up, that's not my area of expertice. I have mentioned it to a person that I'm confident could handle it if they wanted to, but I'm sure there's going to be a discussion somewhere about the bot tasks. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:16, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- I really hope so because... y'know, it's probably a massive chore trying to remove the users manually. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 12:54, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
2023 NBA G League expansion draft
[edit]You added a template for mor sources, I added two, I think everything in the article is referenced. Themanwithnowifi (talk) 14:08, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Themanwithnowifi: Feel free to remove the tag if you believe the issue has been addressed :) Hey man im josh (talk) 14:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Hey man im bot
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After all of the progress we've seen with LLMs we've decided that natural intelligence makes the best bots. Thanks for doing that tedious work. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC) |
- Beep boop! Thank you for the kind words and recognition. You will be spared when power belongs to the bots. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:16, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
AAA Athletics articles
[edit]Hi Hey man im josh, thanks for reviewing the AAA Championships articles, I need to start on the women's equivalent soon. I didn't realise that articles I created still went through the page review because I have been creating articles for a long time. Anyway thanks again. ApricotFoot (talk) 16:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Southland, New Zealand
[edit]Hey man. The subcats of Category:Southland, New Zealand got moved, but not this head cat. Just an oversight? Nurg (talk) 00:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Nurg. I completely understand why you're wondering and how it's confusing if you're unfamiliar. After nominations have sat for at least 48 hours at WP:CFDS, they are moved to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working, where the bot (JJMC89 bot III) works on moving pages and categories. Sometimes it goes in an order that appears to be strange for those on the outside, but it does eventually get through all of them, even if the subcats appear to be orphaned for a short bit. In time, the bot gets through all of it and, based on what I'm seeing, did exactly that since you left this message =) Entirely reasonable question! Hey man im josh (talk) 11:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed, I didn't know how it worked. Thanks for the explanation. All good now. Keep up the good work, Nurg (talk) 20:57, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Nurg: I've been exacted where you are confusion wise til I figured it out lol. Good thought to be following up and helping to make sure things are cleaned up! Hey man im josh (talk) 21:12, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed, I didn't know how it worked. Thanks for the explanation. All good now. Keep up the good work, Nurg (talk) 20:57, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
NPR requests
[edit]Hi! Since you've worked on WP:PERM/NPR before, I was wondering if you could take a look at some of the earliest requests on there (including mine), since they've been sitting around for almost a month now. No worries if you wouldn't like to work on that right now though! Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 00:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Suntooooth, thank you for your interest and volunteering. Truth be told, if your application hasn't been processed in that amount of time, it's because people either have concerns or they don't see enough to make them comfortable with granting. My advice to those who may have the knowledge, but don't have the demonstrated / easily findable examples of such, which is something we look for when processing applications, is to spend some time at WP:AFD making policy based votes. Try not to just pile on at the end, when the decision has already been made, because we don't look for 100% "correct" votes. What we look for is that the rationale used when voting is policy based and shows that, even if you're not always on the right side of the vote, you're voicing opinions that showcase an understanding of notability guidelines, even if you sometimes disagree about where the line is. I also encourage CSD tagging, and to enable the CSD log functionality of Twinkle so that we have easily searchable examples of experience. Finally, I'd also encourage Articles for creation, which typically has a lower barrier of entry for applicants and can be a fantastic opportunity to help newer editors and to demonstrate experience said guidelines. It's okay if experience is only in a certain area of the guidelines as well, that's how everybody starts, get comfortable somewhere and use WP:AFCSORT and WP:NPPSORT to focus on the area you're comfortable with til you comfortable with the process. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the great advice! It's just a little frustrating that requests are being left unanswered. I'd much rather be told "no" quickly (if that's the outcome) than be left waiting for almost a month. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 17:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- That's fair @Suntooooth. I don't like to keep people waiting, but I also like to leave it for others to see if they're familiar with an applicant. It ends up being that nobody wants to actually decline the person, and someone has to be the bad guy. But that's also not fair to the applicants, but we also don't want to come off as jerks by quickly shooting people down. We can definitely be doing better than we are in that aspect, and it's good to hear this type of feedback. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:41, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the great advice! It's just a little frustrating that requests are being left unanswered. I'd much rather be told "no" quickly (if that's the outcome) than be left waiting for almost a month. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 17:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Concern regarding Draft:2025 Pro Bowl Games
[edit] Hello, Hey man im josh. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:2025 Pro Bowl Games, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.
If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.
Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 05:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Grant me NPR
[edit]On January I requested you to revoke my user membership of NPR because I was not active at that time but now I am active so you can make me NPR. 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙♂️Let's Talk ! 10:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- No problem @LordVoldemort728, I've re-granted you a 2-month trial. Happy editing, and remember to check out WP:NPPSORT. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:19, 25 July 2024 (UTC)