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Diff · History 4 Should proposed theories explaining cold fusion be mentioned in Cold fusion?: link
Diff · History 0 Should proposed theories explaining cold fusion be mentioned in Cold fusion?: oops
Diff · History 8 Should proposed theories explaining cold fusion be mentioned in Cold fusion?: format
Diff · History 2,880 Should proposed theories explaining cold fusion be mentioned in Cold fusion?: the sources are reliable to show notability of a theory.
Diff · History 2,000 Should proposed theories explaining cold fusion be mentioned in Cold fusion?: forking is generally a good idea with this.
Diff · History -201,806 I'll accept setting this aside, though I think a simple conclusion could be made, it doesn't have to be a recommendation of specific text.
Diff · History 102 Fourth try: fmt, clarify.
Diff · History 2,596 Fourth try: original issue was very simple. Please resolve the original issue, Cryptic.
Diff · History 1,562 Fourth try: considerations
Diff · History 667 Fourth try: It's implied in the 2007 source for Miles' statement.
Diff · History 1,035 Third try: new attempt.
Diff · History 17 Third try: better source for accelerated patent application due to age.
Diff · History 1,427 Third try: mashing up different things here.
Diff · History 1,348 Third try: I don't think there is such a patent.
Diff · History -1 Third try: fix itals
Diff · History 2,630 Third try: and this shows exactly why synthesis is deprecated.
Diff · History 34 Third try: clarify. this is about rejecting experimental results because of major theoretical objections.
Diff · History 1,460 Third try: those topics were introduced by Enric's proposed text.
Diff · History 3,127 Third try: the substance is correct, but synthesized away from the source, it can be done better.
Diff · History 1,729 Third try: slipping by *might* be cogent for 2004, but not for 2008; more likely it's that the patent wasn't for cold fusion itself, but for a material that also has other possible uses.
Diff · History 1,555 Second try: Telekinesis, perhaps?
Diff · History 638 Mention of patents: the patent is for an electrode design, claimed to increase reliability and quantity of excess heat.
Diff · History 1,274 Mention of patents: r to KDP
Diff · History 1,849 Mention of patents: the patent claims generation of heat, "excess energy," not fusion.
Diff · History 222 Mention of patents: I don't see that as implied, au contraire.
Diff · History 535 Mention of patents: should get the alternate text.
Diff · History 571 Mention of patents: Novel thinking, to be sure. what's unclear about claim 14?
Diff · History 1,471 Mention of patents: cite WP:OR. WP:SYNTH doesn't contradict this at all.
Diff · History 273 Mention of patents: Actually, V, no.
Diff · History 898 Mention of patents: actual precedent instead of just assertion of guideline without reference and specific applicability?
Diff · History 135 Mention of patents: strike incorrect comment, note claim 14.
Diff · History 1,438 Mention of patents: this is a general issue around apparent contradictions of secondary source in primary source.
Diff · History 32 Should proposed theories explaining cold fusion be mentioned in Cold fusion?: collapse until this topic is taken up.
Diff · History 200 Mention of patents: NET isn't the source, the patent is. This is a primary source.
Diff · History 7,814 Should proposed theories explaining cold fusion be mentioned in the article?: one more try. Same text, basically, but two collapse boxes.
Diff · History 9,054 Should proposed theories explaining cold fusion be mentioned in the article?: new section
Diff · History 249 Regroup: I see agreement on #2. Cryptic, can you note this and open up the next discussion?
Diff · History 357 Regroup: r to KDP
Diff · History 2,756 Regroup: I think a conclusion is ripe here, absent objection acceptable to Cryptic.
Diff · History 487 Should the Naturwissenschaften article be used as a source?: on the basic issue.
Diff · History 1,957 Should the Naturwissenschaften article be used as a source?: the scholarly acceptance of a paper does not enter into RS considerations directly. RS establishes notability justifying mention somewhere. How is a separate question..
Diff · History 5,299 Should the Naturwissenschaften article be used as a source?: notability of 2005 Naturwiss. publication is low. Why it's low.
Diff · History 1,618 Should the Naturwissenschaften article be used as a source?: different sources for different claims. "Fact" requires the highest standard. "Claim" requires much less, only notability.
Diff · History 17 Should the Naturwissenschaften article be used as a source?: add
Diff · History 2,246 Should the Naturwissenschaften article be used as a source?: the SPAWAR neutron findings have aroused wide interest.
Diff · History 61 Should the Naturwissenschaften article be used as a source?: refine
Diff · History 4 Should the Naturwissenschaften article be used as a source?: fmt
Diff · History 3,029 Should the Naturwissenschaften article be used as a source?: Should this be taken up next? Personally, I'd prefer simultaneous threads, or this could take forever.
Diff · History 119 Refocus: That's what we did.
Diff · History 419 Refocus: silence is not consent. this whole discussion is much more on-point in another section.
Diff · History 1,043 Refocus: let's move on, close the door on the coatrack in the closet, it can be opened again if someone actually makes a counterclaim.
Diff · History 1,714 Refocus: the blackout is well-known.
Diff · History 4,383 (reverted)  Why characterize the journal?: about the hypothetical claim of "fringe." Publication in Naturwissenschaften is strong evidence this isn't fringe research, even if it is remarkable or extraordinary.
Diff · History 492 Why characterize the journal?: agree
Diff · History 899 Naturwissenschaften a "Life Sciences" journal?: longer characterization not necessary.
Diff · History 1 Participation: sp
Diff · History 3,374 Participation: point to evidence re Rothwell and ban. Bottom line: it's up to Cryptic whether he permits this or not.
Diff · History 130 Why characterize the journal?: New Scientist has editors.
Diff · History 1,135 Participation: cryptic, your choice if this comment stays.
Diff · History 2,069 Why characterize the journal?: what's not true?
Diff · History 1,062 Why characterize the journal?: This is a non-issue, because we aren't depending on Naturwissenschaften as our source.
Diff · History 1,073 Why characterize the journal?: without a raising of specific related issues, i.e., absent objection, move closure of this section.
Diff · History 921 Why characterize the journal?: thanks, Enric.
Diff · History 376 Why characterize the journal?: Yeah, that's what I thought.
Diff · History 167 Why characterize the journal?: add another to the list.
Diff · History 1,017 Why characterize the journal?: eigenfactor and journal-ranking for Naturwissenschaften and EPJ-AP
Diff · History 208 Why characterize the journal?: impact factor is of interest, but not of high relevance here.
Diff · History 70 Why mention the journal?: sign it
Diff · History 182 Why mention the journal?: the source.
Diff · History 4,269 Why characterize the journal?: I think it's obvious.
Diff · History 1,926 Mention of patents: I don't think we need to mediate this. But if someone objects....
Diff · History 2,974 Why characterize the journal?: not a "biology journal."
Diff · History 1,303 The text in context: add text in current context, section
Diff · History 894 Naturwissenschaften a "Life Sciences" journal?: discussion of how to characterize is premature. Paper is historically significant, per media sources.
Diff · History 1,452 Naturwissenschaften a "Life Sciences" journal?: look at Schulze pages
Diff · History 2,234 Naturwissenschaften a "Life Sciences" journal?: open up subsections to lay foundation for debate.
Diff · History 202 Moving forward with mediation: note start of section on Naturwissenschaften
Diff · History 3,197 Naturwissenschaften a "Life Sciences" journal?: set up section on this, defining the problem, and with initial justification of removal.
Diff · History 495 Content issues: add link to unanswered Talk discussion of edit removing "life sciences"
Diff · History 46 Content issues: add cite to journal description
Diff · History 76 Content issues: add issue about Naturwissenschaften, since it was brought up above. This one should be easy.
Diff · History 568 Moving forward with mediation: note that I'm not banned.
Diff · History 738 Continue with mediation?: Yes, that's essential. But policy and its application to article text are what we are about here, what else is there an issue about?
Diff · History 1,244 Continue with mediation?: we should proceed.
Diff · History 855 Content issues: respond to V.
Diff · History 421 Content issues: add some refs.
Diff · History 3,772 Participation: I'm increasingly worried about this. I don't know what "respect the consensus" means, and it could mean something that I can't agree to.
Diff · History 1,025 (reverted)  Participation: involved in what?
Diff · History 1,090 What is this mediation about? Is there a specific complaint?: okay.
Diff · History 1,380 Participation: I just read the request for mediation and it seems this is about something trivial, almost moot.
Diff · History -204 Participation: you already did it and I didn't notice....
Diff · History 948 Participation: not dissatisfied, just puzzled.
Diff · History 2,410 Participation: Thanks, Cryptic. Suggest you move this page to your user space.
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