The Closure requests noticeboard is for posting requests to have an uninvolved editor assess, summarize, and formally close a discussion on Wikipedia. Formal closure by an uninvolved editor or administrator should be requested where consensus appears unclear, where the issue is a contentious one, or where there are wiki-wide implications, such as when the discussion is about creating, abolishing or changing a policy or guideline.
Many discussions do not need formal closure and do not need to be listed here.
Many discussions result in a reasonably clear consensus, so if the consensus is clear, any editor—even one involved in the discussion—may close the discussion. The default length of a formal request for comment is 30 days (opened on or before 10 March 2022); if consensus becomes clear before that and discussion has slowed, then it may be closed earlier. However, editors usually wait at least a week after a discussion opens, unless the outcome is very obvious, so that there is enough time for a full discussion.
On average, it takes two or three weeks after a discussion has ended to get a formal closure from an uninvolved editor. When the consensus is reasonably clear, participants may be best served by not requesting closure and then waiting weeks for a formal closure.
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If you disagree with a particular closure, please discuss matters on the closer's talk page, and, if necessary, request a closure review at the administrators' noticeboard. Include links to the closure being challenged and the discussion on the closer's talk page, and also include a policy-based rationale supporting your request for the closure to be overturned.
See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Closure review archive for previous closure reviews.
Any uninvolved editor may close most discussions, so long as they are prepared to discuss and justify their closing rationale.
Because requests for closure made here are often those that are the most contentious, closing these discussions can be a significant responsibility. Closers should be familiar with all policies and guidelines that could apply to the given discussion. All closers should be prepared to fully discuss the closure rationale with any editors who have questions about the closure or the underlying policies, and to provide advice about where to discuss any remaining concerns that those editors may have. Closers who want to discuss their evaluation of consensus while preparing for a close may use WP:Discussions for discussion.
A request for comment from February of 2013 discussed the process for appealing a closure and whether or not an administrator could summarily overturn a non-administrator's closure. The consensus of that discussion was that closures should not be reverted solely because the closer was not an administrator. However, special considerations apply for articles for deletion and move discussions—see Wikipedia:Deletion process#Non-administrators closing discussions and Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Non-admin closure for details.
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Requests for closure[edit]
Administrative discussions[edit]
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive341#NSPORTS closure review[edit]
(Initiated 30 days ago on 10 March 2022) The close of the 2022 NSPORT RfC was challenged at AN. Given the magnitude of the issue, closure may be needed now that the AN discussion has been archived. The implementation of the RfC is dependent on the AN discussion. An experienced closer previously uninvolved with the NSPORTS discussions would be ideal. Pilaz (talk) 18:44, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
WP:AN#Darkfrog24 unblock request[edit]
(Initiated 22 days ago on 17 March 2022) The unblock discussion has been open for 12 days with no further major discussion taking place. I believe the request is ready to close. Operator873 connect 20:33, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Elinruby[edit]
(Initiated 14 days ago on 25 March 2022) AN/I posting on which not a single Administrator has commented. Oldest posting on AN/I by multiple days, discussion has largely stopped and it seems everyone has said their piece. A verdict is needed one way or another. BSMRD (talk) 20:40, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Please, please, April 6, somebody close this. 3,220 words have been added since BSMRD's request, (per MSWord count, and I didn't include diffs or links, just visible text.) This gotcha-trading pileup gets longer and more toxic until somebody stops it. See also this edit summary, "... I need a break and need to do other things. I will be back later today with particular attention to the representation of my beliefs on Nazis."[1] HouseOfChange (talk) 16:20, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Place new administrative discussions above this line using a level 4 heading[edit]
Requests for comment[edit]
Wikipedia talk:Article titles#RfC on the use of dash-separated titles for sports events[edit]
(Initiated 80 days ago on 19 January 2022) Cinderella157 (talk) 03:06, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_369#Is_the_specific_study_this_discussion_originated_with_(BMJ)_reliable?[edit]
(Initiated 79 days ago on 20 January 2022) Please see also this talk page discussion. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 12:10, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- It would seem like this discussion has disappeared into the RSN archives. Should it be resurrected to give us closure? Chess (talk) (please use
{{reply to|Chess}}on reply) 16:47, 22 March 2022 (UTC)- Changed link to point to the specific archive, will ping all participants once this is closed. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 11:21, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Brian Rose (podcaster)#RfC on text around conspiracy theories[edit]
(Initiated 75 days ago on 23 January 2022) No new discussion for a week. No resolution or clarity has emerged from the discussion. Would be useful to have an outside closer. Bondegezou (talk) 22:17, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Doing... — Mhawk10 (talk) 21:15, 23 February 2022 (UTC)- Actually, somebody just commented today. I'd prefer to leave a day or two to see if there are any responses to the most recent comment before closing the discussion. — Mhawk10 (talk) 22:38, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Reminder ping to Mhawk10. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 22:14, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Actually, somebody just commented today. I'd prefer to leave a day or two to see if there are any responses to the most recent comment before closing the discussion. — Mhawk10 (talk) 22:38, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Archive 79#Removing_actors' names from plot summaries[edit]
(Initiated 62 days ago on 5 February 2022)
Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 371#Amnesty International[edit]
(Initiated 57 days ago on 10 February 2022) Would an uninvolved experienced editor please assess the consensus at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 371 § Amnesty International? Thank you. — Newslinger talk 06:34, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Chinese_government_response_to_COVID-19#RfC:_first_paragraph[edit]
(Initiated 52 days ago on 15 February 2022) Requesting close to open RFC on another subject. CutePeach (talk) 15:24, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Revision deletion#RfC: Remove "attribution" clauses from RD1[edit]
(Initiated 51 days ago on 17 February 2022) Flatscan (talk) 04:25, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Fox News[edit]
(Initiated 50 days ago on 18 February 2022) On top of the inherently contentious nature of the proposal, there was significant controversy over whether this RfC (which failed WP:RFCNEUTRAL) is adequate to its intended aim. Have fun with this one. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 14:23, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- The discussion's now archived. With the caveat that I participated in the discussion, I will say that I don't think it's necessary or even worthwhile to close it. It became a pre-RfC discussion which might lead to a well-formed RfC in future, but wasn't really one as written.—S Marshall T/C 00:20, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- I suppose I don't feel particularly strongly about this getting a formal closure either; by my reckoning, it wasn't going to change the existing consensus anyway. That said, I don't think there would be much community support to open an actual RfC soon after this discussion because so many people treated it like one. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 01:07, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- I reverted A. C. Santacruz's edit which marked this request as done. I had posted a duplicate request for closure down in "Other types of closing requests", as this wasn't really an RfC. Regardless of where it's placed, I do think formal closure would help for this discussion, which was posted on WP:CENT and well attended. If an uninvolved volunteer thinks this should be "not done", I'll accept it. Firefangledfeathers (talk | contribs) 15:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Jimmy_Savile#RfC_on_lead_sentence[edit]
(Initiated 42 days ago on 25 February 2022) An experienced uninvolved close would be appreciated. Spy-cicle💥 Talk? 15:28, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Doing... Firefangledfeathers (talk | contribs) 19:59, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Done. Courtesy ping for Spy-cicle. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sports teams)[edit]
(Initiated 40 days ago on 27 February 2022)
Requesting formal closure since it requires changing a WP:GUIDELINE. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 19:53, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Donald Trump#RfC on Russian bounties wording[edit]
(Initiated 37 days ago on 3 March 2022)
No comments in nearly a month. A close is needed. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 00:49, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Non-free content#RfC: Using non-free biographical images of persons immediately after death[edit]
(Initiated 30 days ago on 9 March 2022)
Needs one or two uninvolved closers. --George Ho (talk) 01:24, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#"She" for ships[edit]
(Initiated 37 days ago on 2 March 2022) Discussion has been running a month, generated a ton of comments. Commenting has died down, there's clearly enough to determine something. --Jayron32 16:18, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Place new discussions concerning RfCs above this line using a level 4 heading[edit]
Deletion discussions[edit]
| V | Jan | Feb | Mar | Apr | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CfD | 0 | 0 | 168 | 9 | 177 |
| TfD | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 6 |
| MfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| FfD | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 4 |
| RfD | 0 | 0 | 35 | 12 | 47 |
| AfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion#Double-redirect[edit]
(Initiated 66 days ago on 1 February 2022) This discussion was started in February. Since then, it has been relisted three times, and discussion seems to not be reaching a clear consensus. Closure by an experienced editor or admin would be helpful. 2601:647:5800:1A1F:B45D:61AC:E323:660D (talk) 17:27, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Place new discussions concerning XfDs above this line using a level 4 heading[edit]
Other types of closing requests[edit]
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemicals/Chemical data pages cleanup#Chemical data pages cleanup[edit]
(Initiated 98 days ago on 31 December 2021). Request is described at #Request hatting closure. (Talk is stale, after a noconsensus-closure of an AfD). I am involved; I think this thread status is not controversional. -DePiep (talk) 11:00, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- @DePiep: I gave a glance at this and honestly don't have a clue what I'm looking at. Is there something people are still disagreeing about? If everyone tacitly agrees what the consensus is now, no formal closure is necessary. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 00:52, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Compassionate727:: You saw it right ;-) In short: discussion is stale; was concluded elsewhere in a related AfD; the AfD advised thorough discussion elsewhere (like VP or RFC).
- To close this (complicated, multi-subtopical) discussion thread I propose {{hat}}-ting by an outsider; follow up possibly elsewhere or as restart (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemicals/Chemical data pages cleanup § Request hatting closure).
- The closer (like you) does not have to conclude, just freeze the big thread. Reason I ask here is that I am involved and so cannot add {{hat}} myself. One of my opponents in there supports this route. DePiep (talk) 06:22, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Cyanotype#Proposed merge of Cyanography with Cyanotype[edit]
(Initiated 73 days ago on 25 January 2022) NW1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 00:13, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2022 February#Pākehā settlers[edit]
(Initiated 56 days ago on 12 February 2022) – ask that a closer please look at this and end the eager anticipation. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. put'r there 11:54, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Justin (name)[edit]
(Initiated 54 days ago on 13 February 2022) Please review the discussion at Talk:Justin (name). --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:34, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- I could hat the discussion, but honestly I don't think that giving a formal closure to this discussion makes sense at this point considering the relative dearth of substantive discussion on the proposal. — Mhawk10 (talk) 07:58, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Reply - @Mhawk10:, what do you mean by "hat the discussion"? --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:42, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Reply - I might have you close this, after which time I might start a request for comment. --Jax 0677 (talk) 11:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with Mwhak10 that the discussion doesn't require formal closure. @Jax 0677: I don't think you need to wait for closure to start and RfC. You might like to consider the other options at WP:RFCBEFORE, but you can definitely say you've attempted local discussion. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:20, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- Reply - I might have you close this, after which time I might start a request for comment. --Jax 0677 (talk) 11:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Canada convoy protest#Title change and alternative, more fitting titles[edit]
(Initiated 51 days ago on 16 February 2022) Please review this discussion. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:30, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Jax 0677, this discussion seems to have been more of a straw poll/brainstorming exercise, so I'm not sure formal closure would be very useful. (If I did close it, I would probably say something like "there is interest in several possible titles, including 2022 Canadian convoy protests, Canada convoy protests, and Freedom convoy protests, but there's no consensus for any particular proposal due largely to low participation. Further discussion is welcome since most participants aren't happy with the current title either.") My suggestion would be to choose one (and only one) of the proposed titles that gained the most support (maybe 2022 Canadian convoy protests) and propose it in a new RM, giving participants an either/or choice between the proposed title and the status quo. It might also be worthwhile just to wait a week or two: it may well be that finding consensus will become far easier once these events are safely out of the headlines. I hope this is helpful. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:42, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Reply - I just started a move discussion at Talk:Canada convoy protest#Requested move 6 March 2022. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:20, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- User:Jax 0677, do you still need a formal closure of the discussion? The RM was just closed as "no consensus for move". Natg 19 (talk) 17:19, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Reply - I just started a move discussion at Talk:Canada convoy protest#Requested move 6 March 2022. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:20, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2022_March#The_In_Between_(2022_film)[edit]
(Initiated 32 days ago on 7 March 2022) The discussion is circling the drain with same users repeating the same points to each other. Calidum 17:59, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
Talk:List_of_games_with_support_for_high-fidelity_image_upscaling#Merging_(again)[edit]
Not a particularly difficult close, in my opinion, but this discussion has brought in a bunch of WP:SPAs from Reddit who are having a hard time seeing that, and have been arguing about it for many months (see discussions directly above on its talk page for further context.) Sergecross73 msg me 13:07, 8 April 2022 (UTC)