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TfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 |
MfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
FfD | 0 | 0 | 5 | 7 | 7 | 19 |
RfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 54 | 55 |
AfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope[edit]
CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions[edit]
Discussions awaiting closure[edit]
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CfD | 1 | 0 | 20 | 91 | 82 | 194 |
TfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 |
MfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
FfD | 0 | 0 | 5 | 7 | 7 | 19 |
RfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 54 | 55 |
AfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 15 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 14 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 13 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 12 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 11 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 10 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 9 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 8 (8 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 7 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 6 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 5 (15 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 4 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 3 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 2 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 1 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 31 (9 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 29 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 28 (8 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 27 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 26 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 25 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 24 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 22 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 21 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 20 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 19 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 18 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 17 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 16 (8 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 15 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 14 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 13 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 12 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 11 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 10 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 9 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 7 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 5 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 4 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 3 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 1 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 31 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 29 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 28 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 26 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 23 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 22 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 21 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 20 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 10 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 4 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 December 2 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 October 24 (1 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD[edit]
Nomination procedure[edit]
Twinkle[edit]
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.
Manual nominations[edit]
I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types[edit]
I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors[edit]
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2022 February 23|CfD section name}} ~~~~
or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}}
to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}}
for this.
Closing procedure[edit]
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories[edit]
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]
), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can "create" a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria[edit]
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes[edit]
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This does not include changing the plurality of a noun when such the distinction between topic and set categories is uncertain.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices[edit]
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names[edit]
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name[edit]
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request[edit]
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous article[edit]
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions[edit]
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions[edit]
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here[edit]
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
*REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 17:02, 21 February 2022 (UTC). Currently, there are 100 open requests (. )
Current requests[edit]
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Homenmen AA Beirut players to Category:Homenmen Beirut players – C2D. Nehme1499 11:25, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Firearms stubs to Category:Firearm stubs – C2C: Stub categories should be in singular. Curbon7 (talk) 09:30, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Movement Without Fear politicians to Category:Fearless Movement politicians – Match name of parent article. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 05:25, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Coup d' etat attemps in South America to Category:Coup d'état attempts in South America – C2A eviolite (talk) 00:06, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Children of peers and peeresses created Life Peers to Category:Children of peers and peeresses created life peers – C2A: capitlization. "Life peer" is not a proper noun. HandsomeFella (talk) 20:51, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Legion of Doom (hacking) to Category:Legion of Doom (hacker group) – C2D, article is at Legion of Doom (hacker group). UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:25, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Free software BOINC projects to Category:Free software Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing projects – C2C, parent cat is Category:Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing projects. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:22, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Files (hand tool) to Category:Files (tool) – C2D, article is at File (tool). UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:13, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Category:East Africa Premier League - C2F (other articles in category are now deleted). Joseph2302 (talk) 12:12, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Category wasn't tagged until now. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:11, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Cruel Youth (band) albums to Category:Cruel Youth albums – C2B: per Cruel Youth. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:59, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Ramon Llull University to Category:University Ramon Llull – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 17:49, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Tom Delay to Category:Tom DeLay per C2A. The L in his last name is capitalized not lowercase. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:31, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Gheorghe Asachi Technical University of Iaşi alumni to Category:Gheorghe Asachi Technical University of Iași alumni – C2A and C2D, article name is Gheorghe Asachi Technical University of Iași. Markussep Talk 13:28, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Songs written by Carmol Taylor to Category:Songs written by Taylor Pie – C2D Richhoncho (talk) 11:54, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Are we sure that "Carmol Taylor" is the same person as "Taylor Pie". That article says she's "well known as Susan Taylor" and that's not the same name that the category currently uses. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:06, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Short track speed skating to Category:Short-track speed skating and subcats. C2D: Just closed the RM at Talk:Short-track speed skating. Note I moved the main category manually, but did not immediately realize how deep the category tree is. No such user (talk) 09:57, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Nothing to do until the subcats are tagged; do you plan to do so? UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:55, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: I am planning to move all articles first, then the categories. Big job. HandsomeFella (talk) 07:18, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: UnitedStatesian: I made the list of categories at Category talk:Short-track speed skating. By my count, there are 269 of those, so I don't really feel like tagging each one; the list should be simple enough to fed to a bot.
HandsomeFella please don't do that by hand. This is a job for a bot, and we have several ones that could do it if given proper input. No such user (talk) 12:55, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: UnitedStatesian: I made the list of categories at Category talk:Short-track speed skating. By my count, there are 269 of those, so I don't really feel like tagging each one; the list should be simple enough to fed to a bot.
- Category:Durham Women's F.C. players to Category:Durham W.F.C. players – C2D: article name is Durham W.F.C. Joeykai (talk) 22:47, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:HD 131399 to Category:Triple star systems – C2F. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:24, 21 February 2022 (UTC) - Category:Satellites in very low-Earth orbit to Category:Satellites in very low Earth orbit – C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes ("low-Earth" makes no sense). Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) 14:34, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Coma Berenices (constellation) to Category:Coma Berenices – C2D: Per Coma Berenices. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:33, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Opposed requests[edit]
- Category:Burials at Raadi cemetery to Category:Burials at Raadi Cemetery - C2C. ExRat (talk) 10:47, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose The main article of the category is Raadi cemetery. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:39, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Then it is titled incorrectly. See: Old St. John's Cemetery, Pärnu Alevi Cemetery, Reopalu Cemetery, New St. John's Cemetery, Liiva Cemetery, Rahumäe Cemetery. Also note that nearly all entries at Category:Cemeteries by country the word "cemetery" is capitalized. ExRat (talk) 00:07, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- ExRat, I searched Google books and found both forms. You could start a Wikipedia:Requested moves discussion and the speedy request could be processed if the article was moved. TSventon (talk) 11:24, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Then it is titled incorrectly. See: Old St. John's Cemetery, Pärnu Alevi Cemetery, Reopalu Cemetery, New St. John's Cemetery, Liiva Cemetery, Rahumäe Cemetery. Also note that nearly all entries at Category:Cemeteries by country the word "cemetery" is capitalized. ExRat (talk) 00:07, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose The main article of the category is Raadi cemetery. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:39, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Xbox Live to Category:Xbox Network – C2D: Xbox Live was renamed in March 2021 and the main article was renamed accordingly but the category was never renamed SYSS Mouse (talk) 22:55, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose as proposed The main article is Xbox network, so this should be renamed to Category:Xbox network. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:01, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support alt rename by Armbrust, as the correct implementation of C2D. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:30, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- @SYSS Mouse: please indicate whether you agree with alt rename too. If you do, this discussion can be relisted for speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:26, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- agreed. SYSS Mouse (talk) 14:00, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Première Ligue de soccer du Québec to Category:Première ligue de soccer du Québec – C2D: To match capitalization of parent article. BLAIXX 02:21, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Première Ligue de soccer du Québec clubs to Category:Première ligue de soccer du Québec clubs
- Category:Première Ligue de soccer du Québec players to Category:Première ligue de soccer du Québec players
- Oppose speedy Article was just moved last month. UnitedStatesian (talk) 06:03, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian That move was to fix the capitalisation of the second word, so C2A might work in this case. What do you think? Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 22:21, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- The article talk page makes clear that sources can be found to support either capitalisation, so I think a full discussion is warranted. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:39, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Armbrust The Homunculus 23:06, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- The article talk page makes clear that sources can be found to support either capitalisation, so I think a full discussion is warranted. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:39, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian That move was to fix the capitalisation of the second word, so C2A might work in this case. What do you think? Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 22:21, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy Article was just moved last month. UnitedStatesian (talk) 06:03, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Left 4 Dead (series) to Category:Left 4 Dead (franchise) – C2B: Per main article Left 4 Dead (franchise). Childcat Category:Left 4 Dead (series) media files should also be moved. ★Trekker (talk) 13:11, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- Place this on hold, because the the main article's name is under discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 20:54, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- The RM was closed as no consensus, and thus C2D doesn't apply ("C2D does not apply if [...] there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result). Oppose speedy. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:48, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Martin Methodist RedHawks baseball to Category:UT Southern FireHawks baseball – The university brands its athletic program as "UT Southern", paralleling the athletic branding of its sister campus in Martin. The athletic nickname also changed with the institutional name change.
- Category:Martin Methodist RedHawks men's basketball players to Category:UT Southern FireHawks men's basketball players
- Category:Martin Methodist RedHawks men's soccer to Category:UT Southern FireHawks men's soccer
- Category:Martin Methodist RedHawks women's soccer to Category:UT Southern FireHawks women's soccer
- Category:Martin Methodist RedHawks women's soccer players to Category:UT Southern FireHawks women's soccer players
- Oppose speedy for the "Martin Methodist RedHawks", because UT Southern FireHawks is a redirect (and thus C2D doesn't apply). Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 20:50, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- May be C2D for a different reason. The school's athletics website has moved to an address consistent with the new name, and the page header explicitly calls the team "UT Southern FireHawks". Per current C2D criteria, an official renaming of the subject qualifies. (An interesting sidelight: While the athletic program's "Quick Facts" page renders the nickname as "FireHawks", most stories on the site use "Firehawks".) — Dale Arnett (talk) 23:55, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- No, C2D says "This applies only if the related page's current name", and there is no related page on Wikipedia. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:04, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- I think this opposition is misplaced: nothing in C2D says a redirect does not qualify as a "page". UT Southern FireHawks is the corresponding page. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:34, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Martin Methodist RedHawks is also a page, and it redirects to the same section. Armbrust The Homunculus 22:40, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Except that Martin Methodist RedHawks is a {{R from former name}}, and UT Southern FireHawks is a {{R with possibilities}} (and there is a Draft:UT Southern FireHawks). UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:49, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see the relevance which Rcat template is on the redirect page in relation to C2D. Armbrust The Homunculus 16:52, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Except that Martin Methodist RedHawks is a {{R from former name}}, and UT Southern FireHawks is a {{R with possibilities}} (and there is a Draft:UT Southern FireHawks). UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:49, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Martin Methodist RedHawks is also a page, and it redirects to the same section. Armbrust The Homunculus 22:40, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- I think this opposition is misplaced: nothing in C2D says a redirect does not qualify as a "page". UT Southern FireHawks is the corresponding page. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:34, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- No, C2D says "This applies only if the related page's current name", and there is no related page on Wikipedia. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:04, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- May be C2D for a different reason. The school's athletics website has moved to an address consistent with the new name, and the page header explicitly calls the team "UT Southern FireHawks". Per current C2D criteria, an official renaming of the subject qualifies. (An interesting sidelight: While the athletic program's "Quick Facts" page renders the nickname as "FireHawks", most stories on the site use "Firehawks".) — Dale Arnett (talk) 23:55, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy for the "Martin Methodist RedHawks", because UT Southern FireHawks is a redirect (and thus C2D doesn't apply). Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 20:50, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Martin Methodist RedHawks women's soccer players to Category:UT Southern FireHawks women's soccer players
On hold pending other discussion[edit]
- Here are the 4 for the legacy teams: UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:02, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- NO BOTS Category:Wikipedians interested in San Diego Chargers to Category:Wikipedians interested in the San Diego Chargers
- NO BOTS Category:Wikipedians interested in St. Louis Rams to Category:Wikipedians interested in the St. Louis Rams
- NO BOTS Category:Wikipedians interested in Washington Redskins to Category:Wikipedians interested in the Washington Redskins
- NO BOTS Category:Wikipedians interested in Washington Football Team to Category:Wikipedians interested in the Washington Football Team
- Procedurally oppose these four until Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 7#Old sports teams (proposing merging to parent categories or deleting) is resolved. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:35, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion[edit]
- Category:Babylonian Epigraphs to Category:Babylonian epigraphs – C2A: MOS:CAPS. TSventon (talk) 05:08, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Egyptian Epigraphs to Category:Egyptian epigraphs – C2A: MOS:CAPS. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:35, 20 February 2022 (UTC)- User:1234qwer1234qwer4 your nomination is correct, but I suspect that both epigraphs categories could be deleted. From Epigraphy, an epigraph is any sort of text, and these categories mainly contain Amarna letters rather than all Babylonian or Egyptian texts. TSventon (talk) 05:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 21#Category:Egyptian Epigraphs. TSventon (talk) 09:14, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Chuy Region to Category:Chüy Region - C2D, per main article at Chüy Region. Markussep Talk 15:16, 15 February 2022 (UTC
- Moved to full discussion. Markussep Talk 19:55, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Columbus Register properties to Category:Columbus Register of Historic Properties – C2D: per Columbus Register of Historic Properties. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:42, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose as creator - less clear and completely unnecessary. ɱ (talk) 16:45, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose as creator - less clear and completely unnecessary. ɱ (talk) 16:45, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Sport in Namur (city) to Category:Sport in Namur – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 20:36, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:People from Namur (city) to Category:People from Namur – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 20:36, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Sub-municipalities of Namur (city) to Category:Sub-municipalities of Namur – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 20:35, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Geography of Namur (city) to Category:Geography of Namur – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 20:35, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Buildings and structures in Namur (city) to Category:Buildings and structures in Namur – C2D. Rathfelder (talk) 20:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Namur (city) to Category:Namur – C2D. - Namur Rathfelder (talk) 20:32, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Namur nominations. Rathfelder, Namur (city) citegories are not eligible for C2D speedy renaming to Namur as it is ambiguous with for example Namur Province. TSventon (talk) 12:36, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps we should rename the article? Rathfelder (talk) 12:39, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- A requested move would be possible, but see Talk:Namur#Requested move 14 September 2015. TSventon (talk) 12:45, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Perhaps we should rename the article? Rathfelder (talk) 12:39, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Namur nominations. Rathfelder, Namur (city) citegories are not eligible for C2D speedy renaming to Namur as it is ambiguous with for example Namur Province. TSventon (talk) 12:36, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion Rathfelder (talk) 14:30, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Seljuq government officials to Category:Seljuk government officials
- Category:Seljuq scholars to Category:Seljuk scholars
- Oppose speedy on these 3 subcats: shouldn't the new cats all have "Empire" to qualify for C2C/C2D viz. Category:Seljuk Empire/Seljuk Empire? UnitedStatesian (talk) 06:06, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:50, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Government of the Kingdom of the Netherlands to Category:Council of Ministers of the Kingdom of the Netherlands – C2D. Heanor (talk) 14:37, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Ministers plenipotentiary (Netherlands) per WP:OVERLAPCAT. But that is not speediable of course. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:14, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:33, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Sparkle GMA Artist Center to Category:Sparkle (talent agency) – C2D: Per Sparkle (talent agency) Chompy Ace 04:40, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy procedure; as this was a recent move without discussion, a full CFD is required. – Fayenatic London 11:37, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Moved to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 14#Sparkle GMA Artist Center. Chompy Ace 21:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy procedure; as this was a recent move without discussion, a full CFD is required. – Fayenatic London 11:37, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Yale University 2000s(Decade) alumni to Category:Yale University 2000s(decade) alumni – C2A: Uncapitalize "decade" MrMeAndMrMeContributions 19:13, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Yale University 1900s(Decade) alumni to Category:Yale University 1900s(decade) alumni – C2A: Uncapitalize "decade" MrMeAndMrMeContributions 19:12, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Yale University 1800s(Decade) alumni to Category:Yale University 1800s(decade) alumni – C2A: Uncapitalize "decade" MrMeAndMrMeContributions 19:11, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- Decade should be omitted altogether: cf Category:1800s, Category:1800s novels etc. We have Category:19th century for the century. Oculi (talk) 20:48, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- On further thoughts the idea of splitting alumni by decade is a bad one (no precedents that I can find) and these should be deleted/upmerged along with the other decade ones. Oculi (talk) 23:49, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose all Yale cats and delete / upmerge – these should be deleted and upmerged; no consensus to split educational alumni by decades (makes it unnecessarily difficult to group similar people) SportsGuy789 (talk) 06:12, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
- Upmerge per above. Categorizing by decade seems like unneeded overcategorization. --Kinu t/c 04:26, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:35, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Films based on theme-park attractions to Category:Films based on theme park attractions – C2A: "theme park" should not be hyphenated. -- 2pou (talk) 21:30, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Main article is at Amusement park, cat should be Category:Films based on amusement park attractions. UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:06, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- I have no objection to this alternate proposal. Does it still qualify for a speedy rename, or does it now need a full CfD nom? -2pou (talk) 17:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- It is safer to go to a full discussion.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:42, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
- Moved to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 24#Category:Films based on theme-park attractions. -2pou (talk) 20:34, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
- It is safer to go to a full discussion.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:42, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
- I have no objection to this alternate proposal. Does it still qualify for a speedy rename, or does it now need a full CfD nom? -2pou (talk) 17:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Main article is at Amusement park, cat should be Category:Films based on amusement park attractions. UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:06, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Persian poets to Category:Iranian poets – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 12:03, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century Persian poets to Category:20th-century Iranian poets – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 12:02, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:19th-century Persian poets to Category:19th-century Iranian poets – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 12:01, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:18th-century Persian painters to Category:18th-century Iranian painters – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 12:01, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:17th-century Persian poets to Category:17th-century Iranian poets – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 12:00, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:15th-century Persian writers to Category:15th-century Iranian writers – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:57, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:14th-century Persian writers to Category:14th-century Iranian writers – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:57, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:7th-century Persian physicians to Category:7th-century Iranian physicians – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:56, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:8th-century Persian physicians to Category:8th-century Iranian physicians – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:55, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:9th-century Persian physicians to Category:9th-century Iranian physicians – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:55, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:10th-century Persian physicians to Category:10th-century Iranian physicians – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:54, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:16th-century Persian physicians to Category:16th-century Iranian physicians – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:53, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:17th-century Persian physicians to Category:17th-century Iranian physicians – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:18th-century Persian physicians to Category:18th-century Iranian physicians – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:51, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:16th-century Persian mathematicians to Category:16th-century Iranian mathematicians – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:51, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:19th-century Persian physicians to Category:19th-century Iranian physicians – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:50, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Persian physicians by century to Category:Iranian physicians by century – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:49, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:15th-century Persian physicians to Category:15th-century Iranian physicians – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:49, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:16th-century Persian poets to Category:16th-century Iranian poets – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:48, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:15th-century Persian poets to Category:15th-century Iranian poets – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:47, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:14th-century Persian poets to Category:14th-century Iranian poets – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:47, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:13th-century Persian poets to Category:13th-century Iranian poets – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:46, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:12th-century Persian poets to Category:12th-century Iranian poets – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:46, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Medieval Persian poets to Category:3th-century Iranian writers – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:13th-century Persian writers to Category:3th-century Iranian writers – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:12th-century Persian writers to Category:12th-century Iranian writers – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:44, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:11th-century Persian poets to Category:11th-century Iranian poets – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:43, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:11th-century Persian writers to Category:11th-century Iranian writers – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:43, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:10th-century Persian poets to Category:10th-century Iranian poets – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:42, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:10th-century Persian writers to Category:10th-century Iranian writers – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:42, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Medieval Persian writers to Category:Medieval Iranian writers – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:41, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Medieval Persian philosophers to Category:Medieval Iranian philosophers – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:40, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Medieval Persian librarians to Category:Medieval Iranian librarians – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:40, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Medieval Persian astrologers to Category:Medieval Iranian astrologers – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:39, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Medieval Persian people by occupation to Category:Medieval Iranian people by occupation – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:38, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Medieval Persian geographers to Category:Medieval Iranian geographers – C2C. Rathfelder (talk) 11:38, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- These look to me like they deserve discussion. Iran mostly didn't exist as such in the times of most of these cat contents, and "Persian" is a conventional way to refer to the culture and people of the region in older times. Dicklyon (talk) 01:33, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- We have just renamed a whole load of other mediaeval Persian/Iranian categories speedily, on the advice of @HistoryofIran:. Could we do these speedily and then have a wider discussion if necessary, not just confined to these categories? Otherwise we have a mess. Rathfelder (talk) 14:44, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- These look to me like they deserve discussion. Iran mostly didn't exist as such in the times of most of these cat contents, and "Persian" is a conventional way to refer to the culture and people of the region in older times. Dicklyon (talk) 01:33, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Yep. Sorry, but that is inaccurate. Scholars routinely use the word Iran(ian) when talking about the country and its people during those centuries. The name of Iran was in usage of at least as early as 224 when the Sasanian Empire was founded, and medieval native writers often use the name Iran as well. "Persian" is not a conventional way to refer to the culture and people at all, since a vast amount of its inhabitants were not of Persian stock, but part of other Iranian groups, such as the Daylamites, Parthians etc. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:44, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Just a comment that Category:16th-century Persian mathematicians has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 02:15, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- These categories have been moved see here and here within the 48 hr period by User:JJMC89 bot III. Cinderella157 (talk) 05:33, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Full discussion is in order, since nobody can point to any consensus or prior discussion about these changes. Dicklyon (talk) 16:37, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'm no expert on the subject, but my impression is that Persia has been the more common term used up to at least 1935, when Reza Shah issued a declaration to change it (which was apparently reversed to some extent in 1959). The article about Hafez calls him a Persian poet, not an Iranian one. The same is true for Ferdowsi and Omar Khayyam. There's a whole article about the Name of Iran, and it's also discussed in the lead section of the Iran article, and there's a whole section called "Replacement of Persia with Iran" in the Reza Shah article. It doesn't seem entirely uncontroversial. I don't really know whether scholars have typically been applying the name change retroactively. (It's true that the other name did also exist before 1935.) — BarrelProof (talk) 22:45, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- Your impression about the 1935 bit completely correct, that was the case back then. However, nowadays, English scholarship mostly use the term 'Iran(ian)' when referring to the country pre-1925 as its more accurate. As for Hafez etc, that's because it was certain that they were of actual Persian stock, something which can sometimes be hard to discern since primary sources often mixed Persians up with other Iranian groups. The thing is however, a lot of historical Iranian figures, be it writers, generals (Asfar ibn Shiruya, Surena), or rulers (Parthian Empire, Buyid dynasty), were of Iranian, but certainly not Persian stock. Referring all those figures as 'Persian' would be like, er, calling a Kurd or Pashtun for a Persian. --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:02, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Full discussion is in order. We would be governed by usage in independent English language sources. If Iran is the predominant contemporary usage, not just for present day Iran but for the region in historical contexts (other than ancient Persia, then we would probably not be seeing the result we do in this n-gram. Cinderella157 (talk) 05:15, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Not really the best comparison, considering "Persian" refers to the language as well. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:04, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- Certainly needs a full discussion. Especially in the case of the literary figures, where "Persian" refers to the language not the nationality - the first one I look at is Bangladeshi - Muhammad Faizullah. Please someone kindly ping me when the discussion opens. Johnbod (talk) 05:08, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- For writers, a rename to "Persian-language" might be an alternative. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Rathfelder: are you planning to move this to full discussion? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:56, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- Part of the above categories have now been nominated for full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:24, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Persian poets to Category:Iranian poets – The category currently includes non-Iranian poets who has written in Persian and seemingly refers to Persian language poets, the corresponding page in Persian Wikipedia also categorizes them as Persian language poets. (examples of the said poets, includes: Abdul Rahim Khan-i-Khanan, Indian, Mir Ali Sher Qaune Thattvi, Indian, Hidir Lutfi, Turkish, Gulrukhsor Safieva, Tajikistani.)Khenamothara (talk) 07:44, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Category:Resovia Rzeszów coaches to Category:Resovia (volleyball) coaches – C2A: Pleonasm, same reason as Category:Resovia (volleyball) players. Maister1921 (talk) 14:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose – It would make more sense as Category:Resovia volleyball coaches; same with the other. And C2A doesn't seem like a plausible reason. Probably a discussion is in order. Dicklyon (talk) 16:17, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Dicklyon: would you object to C2D per Resovia (volleyball)? – Fayenatic London 08:39, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, still object. This category does not have a main article, so C2D does not apply. Why not go with Category:Resovia volleyball coaches and Category:Resovia volleyball players? Dicklyon (talk) 16:26, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- C2D states "This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team" and therefore it does indeed also apply to coaches, managers etc. – Fayenatic London 19:09, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, yes. In that case, Coaches for Resovia (volleyball) and Players for Resovia (volleyball) would seem appropriate. I don't think the parenthetical disambiguator in the middle of a title is a good thing (even if you find precedent for it). Dicklyon (talk) 20:14, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Now at full discussion. – Fayenatic London 10:39, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, yes. In that case, Coaches for Resovia (volleyball) and Players for Resovia (volleyball) would seem appropriate. I don't think the parenthetical disambiguator in the middle of a title is a good thing (even if you find precedent for it). Dicklyon (talk) 20:14, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- C2D states "This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team" and therefore it does indeed also apply to coaches, managers etc. – Fayenatic London 19:09, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, still object. This category does not have a main article, so C2D does not apply. Why not go with Category:Resovia volleyball coaches and Category:Resovia volleyball players? Dicklyon (talk) 16:26, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Dicklyon: would you object to C2D per Resovia (volleyball)? – Fayenatic London 08:39, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose – It would make more sense as Category:Resovia volleyball coaches; same with the other. And C2A doesn't seem like a plausible reason. Probably a discussion is in order. Dicklyon (talk) 16:17, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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