Incident[edit]
There is currently a discussion at Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Stone walling. The discussion is about the topic Topic. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kitchen Knife (talk • contribs) 15:23, February 2, 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Lloyd Simmons[edit]
On 9 February 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lloyd Simmons, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lloyd Simmons. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Lloyd Simmons), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Freedom Convoy 2022 ITN[edit]
Per the ongoing discussion, I would ask that you pull your addition of this article pending further discussion. If not, I would ask that you provide more information on which oppose votes you classified as having no weight, and what policies this decision was based on. BilledMammal (talk) 00:51, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- BilledMammal the latter I can do. If another admin wants to pull it, they can. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:58, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. Can you specify whose arguments you discounted? BilledMammal (talk) 01:01, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- BilledMammal, the arguments of WP:ITSLOCAL and that since it was SNOW closed last week it shouldn't be posted now, I have said this in the thread. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you; I was hoping you could clarify which users you believed relied entirely on those arguments. BilledMammal (talk) 01:47, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- See my comments at the article; while knowing which users you assessed as having no significance would be useful, as I believe most of them presented that as part of multiple arguments, I also believe that the basis on which you assessed them as having no weight was incorrect. BilledMammal (talk) 02:09, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- I do not want to name names as that is uncivil. But some opposers did say
Local news
,this was WP:SNOW closed on 1 February
,Impact is limited to one state in one country
,I thought the agreed consensus for the previous nomination of this event was clearly opposed to posting the blurb?
,Parochial story
, andUntil they cross a line of actually harming others (eg as in Jan 6)
clearly fail to note ITN guidelines to not oppose an item as only relating to one location or none at all, doesn't recognize that WP:CCC, and seems to imply that the WP:MINIMUMDEATH threshold for posting isn't met. Support votes were far more convincing. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:17, 9 February 2022 (UTC)- First, I don't believe it is uncivil, and it is important to understand which arguments were dismissed, and how many were dismissed, so we can determine whether this close was appropriate.
- Second, with the exception of
I thought the agreed consensus for the previous nomination of this event was clearly opposed to posting the blurb?
, which is appropriate to dismiss under WP:CCC (although the short period of time since that consensus would suggest it should be given some weight), your reasons for dismissing don't appear to appropriate. - I've already addressed
this was WP:SNOW closed on 1 February
, pointing out that it was not based entirely on a previous consensus but on the editors assessment that the significance of the event had not changed. RegardingLocal news
,Parochial story
, etc, I believe your close was in error. As I said previously, WP:ITSLOCAL relates to notability, not ITN significance, andoppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country
discusses countries, while the opposes based on it being local news were due to it only being significant to a single city. Further, the "please do not" section is an information page, not a policy or guideline, so it is inappropriate to assess the weight of !votes on the basis of it, as it would be inappropriate to assess them based on an essay. BilledMammal (talk) 02:40, 9 February 2022 (UTC)- WP:DETCON:
Consensus is ascertained by the quality of the arguments given on the various sides of an issue, as viewed through the lens of Wikipedia policy.
And you're entitled to not like my decision. Welcome to ITN/C. I don't believe I've seen you around there before. – Muboshgu (talk) 05:14, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- WP:DETCON:
- I do not want to name names as that is uncivil. But some opposers did say
- See my comments at the article; while knowing which users you assessed as having no significance would be useful, as I believe most of them presented that as part of multiple arguments, I also believe that the basis on which you assessed them as having no weight was incorrect. BilledMammal (talk) 02:09, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you; I was hoping you could clarify which users you believed relied entirely on those arguments. BilledMammal (talk) 01:47, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- BilledMammal, the arguments of WP:ITSLOCAL and that since it was SNOW closed last week it shouldn't be posted now, I have said this in the thread. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. Can you specify whose arguments you discounted? BilledMammal (talk) 01:01, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
You did good/right/well, thanks again. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:30, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- InedibleHulk, you can only please some of the people some of the time. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:51, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- If you only please some fools once, though, shame on you! Or something like that. Maybe this great big convoy will seem hotter in Texas. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:24, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Vandal harassment[edit]
Hey Muboshgu! I was wondering where I can report a vandal for harassment? This IP vandal reverted my edit and wrote "(Redacted)" on both Adam West's edit summary and my talk page. I deleted his comment on my talk page but keeps writing on it with the same thing. This user has also been engaging in an edit war in two wiki articles (Jean Paul Belmondo and Adam West). --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 03:47, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
It's because he changes to a younger black and white photo of the subject instead of the more recent colored one on the infobox. 121.122.73.32 (talk) 03:52, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Well, IP, it doesn't matter what another editor does. You don't use edit summaries like that. I'm glad to see that the IP has been blocked. Pinging an admin is a good way to go. If you're asking which board is best, I'd guess WP:AN/I or WP:AIV, TDKR Chicago 101. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu:, Thank you very much! --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:12, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- @TDKR Chicago 101: I used WP:REVDEL on those two edit summaries. Do you want me to redact it from your initial post too or is it okay with you to leave it? – Muboshgu (talk) 04:13, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- That'd be great, it really bothered me. Thanks again! --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:14, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- TDKR Chicago 101 I'm sorry you repeated it then, we would've found those edit summaries without the exact wording. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:17, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, I misunderstood what you said, I thought you meant on my talk page. I meant it bothered me this user resorted to using that language on edit summaries and my talk page multiple times. At least its over. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:18, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- TDKR Chicago 101, oh no I had totally glossed over the and my talk page in your initial message, I apologize. I RevDel'd the two offending messages on your talk page. Definitely an unpleasant vandal experience. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:22, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- No worries! Thanks again! --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:24, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Gerald Williams (baseball)[edit]
On 10 February 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gerald Williams (baseball), which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 12:31, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for that one, and for listing George Crumb, finally. Would you also pass credits, please? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:03, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, yes, sure. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:27, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Jeremy Giambi[edit]
On 11 February 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Jeremy Giambi, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. —Bagumba (talk) 00:55, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Request for clarification[edit]
Hi, I am reaching out to request your clarification. You reverted my edit on the page Marie Yovanovitch, where I updated the fact that she has been the latest Senate-confirmed US ambasssador to Ukraine. I don't quite understand why you would call my edit "wrong information?" Every succeeding US representative to Ukraine has been on an acting capacity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobhowards (talk • contribs) 02:44, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Bobhwards: I see. I read it as you adding that she was confirmed in February 2022. It was not a deliberate factual error, but it was an unclear edit. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:52, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Lol[edit]
Lol ZephyrAgz (talk) 02:03, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Oh shit, my bad b. Not meant for u ZephyrAgz (talk)
Wikipage question[edit]
Before I get into what I want to ask you, does this page (WP:CRYSTAL) apply to sports league standings and waiting for the games to go final before adding wins and losses to the teams involved? Thanks. GoWarriors151718 (talk) 18:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- GoWarriors151718, it does apply to anything that isn't verified, so yes. I believe I nominated the Super Bowl for ITN in its waning seconds, technically before the clock hit 00:00, but only after the result was beyond a doubt, as an example from the last 12 hours. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:55, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. Now that I understand it better, there is a user who edits this template (Template:2021–22 Pac-12 Conference men's basketball standings) but unlike you, they update records even if the game in question has a decent amount of time left in the 2nd half (5+ min). Anyway, I was wondering (hopefully without using my username) if you could just mention that this wikipage that I brought up earlier is a thing that exists or something. Their username is Smitty Smitty. Thanks. I appreciate your help on this matter. GoWarriors151718 (talk) 19:09, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Helene Hathaway Britton[edit]
Hello! Your submission of Helene Hathaway Britton at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Mujinga (talk) 19:20, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Super Bowl LVI[edit]
On 14 February 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Super Bowl LVI, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:16, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
Giving credit on behalf of the posting admin. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:16, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
Trump wiretapping[edit]
Leaving the statement that it is a false claim as of 2020 is not “Unbiased”. The Wiretapping claim needs to be updated to reflect the current news report regarding the Official Documents by Durham. 72.238.16.124 (talk) 19:48, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- The wiretapping claim is still bunk. Nothing in Durham's Friday filing confirms what Trump alleged. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:51, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
Your ad hominem reaction is superfluous. At minimum the page should reflect the ACTUAL history of the Durham filing and point of reference. – PepeTheCreator (talk) 4:09, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- The motion is covered at John_Durham#Indictment_of_attorney. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:10, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Joe Felmet[edit]
On 16 February 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Joe Felmet, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Joe Felmet was sentenced to a chain gang for his participation in the Journey of Reconciliation, considered a precursor to the Freedom Riders, in 1947? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Joe Felmet. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Joe Felmet), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
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ITN recognition for P. J. O'Rourke[edit]
On 16 February 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article P. J. O'Rourke, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 10:18, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
WP:AFC Helper News[edit]
Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.
- AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
- The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.
Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
Agents[edit]
Hi M, are sports agents generally listed in player/coach articles? See here. I don't recall seeing them listed in most of the articles that I watch. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 20:37, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
Upon further research, it looks like most of that user's edits are promoting Neil Cornrich. COI? BilCat (talk) 20:43, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- BilCat, usually we don't. not unless there's some compelling reason (Scott Boras-related things come to mind). This seems like you may be on to something re: COI. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:45, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
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Your recent AWB run to remove bold markup[edit]
Hi! Your recent AWB run to remove a whole lot of bold markup ("per MOS:BOLDAVOID") seems to have done quite a bit of damage. It removed the bold from any links, including where that bold should be there. For example at 2021 Canadian Olympic Curling Trials, where it caused a lot of missing end tags, or at 2021 Korean Mixed Doubles Curling Championship, where it un-bolded the winners in the knockout bracket. Could you go through your edits and revert those that are faulty? Thanks! --rchard2scout (talk) 13:06, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Rchard2scout: my apologies for those errors. I'll go through the edits now and correct what needs correcting. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:58, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Alexander Bannwart[edit]
On 19 February 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alexander Bannwart, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Alexander Bannwart got into a fistfight with the pro-war senator Henry Cabot Lodge over America's proposed entry into World War I? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alexander Bannwart. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Alexander Bannwart), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.