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Apology[edit]

Hi, I'm Anuran, and I've been looking on my chat. it seems that I've made a mistake. I can't edit articles without a source meaning that even if I am true, I must bring a reference for my edit no matter what like Arthropleura is a herbivore... (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08912963.2019.1675055) for my backup. So yes, I see my mistake and I hope it eases you. Have a good day.

DRV: Stephen Hogan[edit]

Dear Sir, hope you have been well. A titan here has nominated the Stephen Hogan page we diligently put together for nomination to delete. And it's been deleted. Maybe I am a poor writer that I didn't bring in Dublin actor stars in fascinating new Amazon Prime film about Indian revolutionary - Dublin Live properly into the article to further demo notability. I know you are extremely busy, but could you please participate? Many thanks for your time and consideration. Have a great weekend. Supermann (talk) 03:57, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, I said that I thought the notability was marginal, and that it might go either way if it was nominated for deletion. That process has happened now, and I'd advise you to accept that and go do sonething else. Your deletion review won't be successful - deletion reviews aren't places to discuss whether or not a subject is notable, you have to establish that the deletion procedure wasn't done properly - like, if the closer was involved, or the consensus wasn't followed, or something. As far as I can see there weren't any procedural failings, so the DRV is likely to uphold the outcome of the AfD. Girth Summit _(blether) 10:45, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, hope you have been well. The DRV is closed with relist per Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 November 6. It's a wall of texts that I think you may not want to read, esp those questioning your wisdom of citing the Times article on his audiobook narrator contributions. So people are chiming in again at the AfD. Your weak keep might just help swing it into survival. Please feel free to join us at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Hogan. Appreciate it!!!! Supermann (talk) 16:12, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

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Hello[edit]

Hi,

Please look into Arjuna page. There seems to be a user who is sockpuppetting with different user ids.

Thanks.

(Panchalidraupadi (talk) 15:54, 27 November 2021 (UTC))

Recently, this user had a similar profile named ViratYuddha24. Panchalidraupadi (talk) 15:55, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

 Done. For future reference, WP:SPI is the best place to report this kind of thing (I'd strongly recommend using WP:TWINKLE to raise reports there, it makes it much easier). There was already a case open for this account, so that speeded things up - they're blocked, feel free to revert anything they did per WP:SOCKSTRIKE. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 16:04, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Panchalidraupadi (talk) 16:19, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

One more help. I am unable to revert to a version which has been edited many times, not aware of the process. Could you please revert it back to the version by Kailash29792 on 18th Nov? Thanks Panchalidraupadi (talk) 16:25, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I've been away. It looks like you managed to do it already, so I won't make any changes to the page. Girth Summit _(blether) 16:16, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

A bit odd[edit]

Hi.

I am looking at doing a GA reassessment and the nominee has been blocked (that's fine, ferret sorted this, along with the IP request for WP:SO.) Fine. I went looking for another editor to be responsible for the nomination (and the article) and looked to the top editor. I find something odd here. I'm looking at their contributions - contributions cease in 2019. How is it that this editor with a previous SI is getting category deletion notices in 2021, if there have been no contributions since December 2019? A bit odd --Whiteguru (talk) 21:44, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Those notices get sent automatically when a category the account created is nominated for deletion. Whoever creates the nomination would have to manually disable the 'notify creator' option to stop them being sent. It looks like the account has been abandoned, and the SPI didn't find conclusive evidence, so I don't think there's anything more to be done unless the account suddenly starts editing again. Cheers Girth Summit _(blether) 16:23, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Help[edit]

I have made a paper HAL TEDBF in hindi 3-4 months ago. So much time have passed but it is not linked with the language section mean that I cannot get on the English page of I am on Hindi. Please help me. I need this feature/function to link other pages also. I ame Shears (talk) 09:46, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi - I'm afraid I don't really understand what you're asking me to do. Are you talking about linking to an article on Hindi Wikipedia from English Wikipedia? Please explain exactly what it is you want to do, ideally providing links to the relevant articles. Thanks Girth Summit _(blether) 09:59, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

• [1] this is the page which I want to link from Hindi wikipedia to English Wikipedia. Thanks I ame Shears (talk) 08:51, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

  Hi - apologies for the (very) slow response, I'm afraid that I've been swamped with real-life work over the last few days. I'm afraid that I'm still not sure what it is you want to do: which page do you want to link from? Why do you want to link to a Hindi article from English Wikipedia? If you can explain more fully, I'll try my best to advise. Girth Summit _(blether) 21:28, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

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The Yorkshire WikiProject Newsletter

The WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter Issue 164 – December 2021 November issue Got any suggestions? — Add them here Project News Welcome to the one hundred and sixty fourth WikiProject Yorkshire monthly newsletter. Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 17,376 last month to 17,458 on 29 November 2021). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 204 is ahead of WP:GM who have 91. WP:YORKS also has the lead in FAs at 88 while WP:GM has 70 out of a total number of 4,696 articles. 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News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2021).

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Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit/Academy[edit]

hi,, iam new & want to be a studant of Counter-Vandalism Unit --Spotanus (talk) 12:12, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

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Student of Counter-Vandalism Unit[edit]

Hello, I am new here and want to be a student of Counter-Vandalism Unit. Thanks. --Spotanus (talk) 16:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Spotanus. I'm quite busy at work at the moment, and not taking on any students for the time being. I note that your account is very new, and I'm not sure that diving immediately into counter-vandalism activities is the best way for you to start out here. You might consider using the WP:ADVENTURE to build up your skills first, and then think about trying to improve a few articles before diving straight into counter-vandalism stuff. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 19:37, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

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Alexander Ellice slavery sources[edit]

Hi,

Since you reverted the source of Alexander Ellice biography, can you at least provide some consistent source about his slave trader past ? Nothing in this page (your source) proves that he was a slave trader https://www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/2146638519 only that he ha

Also the page you provide is incomplete and doesn't show how Alexander Ellice developped the area http://www.biographi.ca/fr/bio/ellice_alexander_5F.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anne-Laure1984QC (talk • contribs) 20:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

I reverted because your edit was a violation of our copyright policy - WP:COPYVIO. We may not copy content from other websites into our articles. I know nothing about this individual, and am not myself familiar with the sources - I suggest that you reach out on the article's talk page to the article's author, and discuss the matter with them. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 20:27, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

We haven't interacted too much though I have seen you around and we have been involved in discussion before but I wanted to thank you for your words at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Reywas92. They were very sound and I agreed with most of what you said. It reminds me a Wikipedia principle I have come to adopt throughout my interactions here ad well as in life.

"One of the least enforced but most critical policies on the project is our need to remain civil at all times, no matter the provocation. If something you might say would be unacceptable at a large meeting of professionals in a conference room, then it is unacceptable here. Insults very often are an insight into the person making them, not on the target of the aspersions. Insults will never yield positive outcomes. Incivility reduces productivity, engagement, and idea generation."

Words affect others, tone affects others and I'm still learning this despite years of trying to perfect it. When everything is going well and others are agreeing with us it is easy to be civil. The more adversity we face we, as humans, feel we must fight the fire by unloading and civility is often the first thing we toss out the window. --ARoseWolf 21:15, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

We're none of us perfect. If I could add up the amount of time I've wasted typing out a reply that I want to send, then deleting it and typing the reply I know I ought to send, I'd probably have... well, enough time to do something useful with. Build a boat maybe, or learn to ski. The way I see it, the person who remains civil and professional is acting entirely in their own interests - people coming to a discussion cold will generally be far more inclined to agree with the calm person referring to policy than the angry person venting all over the place. We're all human though - there are so many situations where it is an ingrained response to give a sarcastic, snarky or downright hostile response. I always try to imagine it being quoted back at me out of context, and my having to justify it to people who weren't there at the time - better not to make it in the first place.

Thanks, by the way. :) Girth Summit _(blether) 21:24, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

I type, delete and retype messages all the time. If I had a US dollar for every time I deleted a message and simply walked away from the discussion I would be, I know, the richest person in North Alaska at the moment, of course that may or may not be a very big accomplishment. Either way, I understand you perfectly and I am so glad I am not the only one doing that. It's one of those things that you know but it's good to hear or see someone else experiencing it as well. --ARoseWolf 21:47, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

SeanM1997[edit]

Back on 31 October you advised SeanM1997 at User talk:SeanM1997 to clearly state on his user page that he is using two different accounts to edit the same articles. He has not done this and continues active editing using both accounts on the same articles, e.g. Edinburgh Airport. Perhaps it's time to remind him of his obligations. 10mmsocket (talk) 13:30, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Is there any actual disruption going on - are they edit warring or anything like that? The account names are so similar that I doubt there is any intention to deceive; I've advised them of best practice already, I'm not personally inclined to take any further action unless there is something more than the use of two separate but similarly named accounts. Girth Summit _(blether) 15:44, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

About flags[edit]

Hello, Turkish peoples have spread to many parts of the world, I am making flags for these peoples to be recognized more, the flags I make are not meaningless, all of these flags have a meaning, please do not delete the flags I have added, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SahinBasaran (talk • contribs) 00:23, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

You can't add flags here if you have invented them yourself - we are here to collect existing knowledge, not to propogate new ideas. I see that you have been blocked from editing now - you'll need to agree to stop adding flags like this if you wish to be unblocked. Girth Summit _(blether) 11:29, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Sahin Basaran presents Fun with Flags!!?? Govvy (talk) 12:10, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

If I could issue a Wikipedia warning for making me spit out my coffee, you'd get a Level-3 10mmsocket (talk) 12:22, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Sorry 10mmsocket I couldn't help myself, I am a big fan of The Big Bang Theory. Govvy (talk) 20:40, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Sorry to be that guy, but I've never watched the Big Bang Theory, and I've no idea what you're talking about. I respect both of you as editors, and I hate to be a killjoy, but this thread was started by a now-indef-blocked user who was certainly being disruptive, but who probably doesn't really understand what they were doing wrong - let's not cause them any more frustration and confusion by turning it into a sideshow. Girth Summit _(blether) 20:45, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Girth, it's a very popular show, maybe not some ppl's cup of tea, but it's fun, goofy, warm hearted. It hits on a number of cultural elements of my generation so it hits all the right buttons for me. You should give it a try. Govvy (talk) 21:01, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

It's not about the show, or the fun - I feel bad about asking you to stop, fun is definitely a good thing. It's just the circumstances - I don't think this person was intentionally breaking our rules, they just didn't understand what was wrong with their actions. They don't need to see us laughing and joking about it. Girth Summit _(blether) 21:39, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you[edit]

Your close of that awful ANI was spot on and I think you parsed the various options just right. Having been at the sharp end of the discussion I have developed a new appreciation of how unpleasant ANI is. It makes DRV a walk in the park by comparison. My main gripe is the length of time the thread was open. Obviously not your fault as you fixed the issue, but there has to be a better way to moderate disputes of this kind. Quicker closing and policing of behaviour would probably have seen no need for formal sanctions at all. Any how, thanks again for bringing this to an end. Spartaz ^Humbug! 23:05, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Threads like that are tricky - it's clear that a substantial number of people want something to be done, but with lots of people pulling in different directions it's tempting just to scroll down and leave it to somebody else. I'm sorry that one was left for so long though, and I'm glad that you think I called it right. Cheers Girth Summit _(blether) 09:30, 17 December 2021 (UTC)