The page of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrikant_Shinde is quite literally a large political ad. The whole thing is heavily unsourced and is only used as a way for the politician to boast achievements. This needs to be fixed ASAP considering the guy may be entering a more prominent position in Maharashtra politics now. 223.190.85.49 (talk) 20:45, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks IP, I've done a first pass and warned Nishi21 who was responsible for most of it. Hemantha (talk) 04:36, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) § Improper acceptance of a new proposal as policy. —usernamekiran (talk) 06:51, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

This is related to Constituency titles. —usernamekiran (talk) 06:51, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Seems to be resolved with the start of RfC at Proposal : Wikipedia:Naming conventions Indian constituencies --Venkat TL (talk) 13:31, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@MPGuy2824 regarding Special:Diff/1096223105 please note that the source Elecorate size from CEO Punjab is outdated due to the release of the election 2022 detailed results. I have found that the the CEO data is always lower than the total electors size mentioned in the 2022 results, which is more recent. So I suggest using the 2022 election results for updating the most recent size of the electors. Venkat TL (talk) 08:04, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Makes sense. I guess they are able to add a few more electors before the elections. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:25, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

@MPGuy2824 thanks for understanding. Yes, a few hundred (or thousand) people will reach the adult age every month in a cosntituency, and also I believe everyone becomes more active about enrollment just before the election, hence the election data, even if fresh by only few months from annual CEO data, can have much variation. Venkat TL (talk) 10:11, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 July 3 § Template:Election Results table. Venkat TL (talk) 11:16, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Please take a look at the Category:Assembly constituencies of Karnataka. Why are these article title different? Looks strange. --Venkat TL (talk) 07:21, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

• Sujanpur (Himachal Pradesh Assembly constituency)
• Sujanpur (Punjab Legislative Assembly constituency)

More variations are found --Venkat TL (talk) 10:52, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Consensus across states may be difficult here? Just in south, Kerala - Nigam Sabha, MH - Vidhan sabha, TN - state assembly. But the Karnataka list does need uniformity; I'd prefer "Name (Vidhana Sabha constituency)". Once there's consensus, a Wikipedia:AWB/Tasks request might be the best way to mass rename here. Hemanthah (talk) 12:51, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

@Hemanthah Thanks for the reply. It is a big headache to find these articles as I have no idea what title these articles are using. I have to search twice or thrice even though I know the name of the city/Area. As I understand all the central and state elections are conducted by ECI. Obviously ECI would be using a standard name to avoid such confusion that I am facing. (What do they use?) We should use one name for all state and assembly constituencies. I understand that there are local names too but they are one among the many names, and they can be valid redirects. I agree with your preference. "Name (Vidhana Sabha constituency)" is fine with me. I am also ok with "Name (Assembly constituency)". (We should use 1 of these 2 names) Also is it necessary to use brackets? It is an additional challenge to use Pipe link to avoid brackets. If it is possible the bracket should be removed.

@MPGuy2824 YttriumShrew Diptyajit Please help to reach a consensus. Is this thread ok or should we start an RFC or Post on WT:INDIA? Venkat TL (talk) 13:21, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

@Venkat TL: I agree with your POV. We should use one format for naming all assembly constituencies. Name (Vidhana Sabha constituency). — Diptyajit (talk) 15:57, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Brackets are favored elsewhere. WP:NCGAL, a guideline, links to this UK convention mandating it; which I take as a strong hint policy-wise to use brackets in suffix.

Pan-India uniformity will raise issues, won't it? In Sujanpur example you mentioned above, more text than just '(Vidhana Sabha constituency)' is needed. I think this is not a problem for ECI since they always group constituencies by state and type (also they don't have to keep both 'Town' and 'Town (constituency)' as we need to). Hemanthah (talk) 18:14, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Please take a look at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/India-related articles#Legislative Assembly constituency names. Many proposals, arguments for and against are already there. That particular conversation seems dead, but we can start a new one, here. We should include the editors who took the time to comment in that thread. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:24, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

There is no closing statement or summary there. If someone has read, they can post the summary here. The second last comment in that thread by (Vijeth N Bharadwaj 6:57 pm, 24 August 2020, Monday (1 year, 4 months, 11 days ago) that suggests, "Place (Assembly constituency)" seems most reasonable to me. With a minor change that I will disambiguate duplicate names using "Place, state (Assembly constituency)"

If 2 duplicate name constituencies are in same state then "Place, district (Assembly constituency)".

Both VSc and Ac is fine with me, see my comment above, though I feel Ac is better for brevity purpose.) Venkat TL (talk) 12:52, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

All the state legislative assemblies are named as ABC Legislative Assembly, see State legislative assemblies of India. So, we could throw away the VSc disamb. Also, I suggest a notification about this thread to appropriate places (WT:INDIA, WT:MOS/IN, others?) [and users]. — DaxServer (talk) 13:54, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Adding to my comment about VSc, I think the English names/disambs must be used (wherever it's used), as we term it State legislative assemblies of India and State legislative councils of India, despite both having alternative names (in their leads). In the end they just boil down to the common names in English for an English Wiki. — DaxServer (talk) 14:16, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

I agree. If my brief read of that previous discussion is correct, this - i.e '(Assembly constituency)' as a uniform suffix - was also the rough consensus then. Hemantha (talk) 14:50, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that sounds right to me. But getting the consensus is harder. For eg, see this page I found where a move to consistent name was requested (months after the discussion MPGuy2824 linked above) but was blocked. The proposer seems to have later moved it, explicitly against that closure (¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ). And the commenter you quoted himself has particular preferences (Vidhan->Vidhana). This requires somebody to shepherd a proposal through (or fly under the radar like the proposer I mentioned before, haha) Hemantha (talk) 14:04, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

. We will have a rough estimate of more popular preferences after which we can start an RfC using those options to choose one among those. feel free to tag folks or give notifications. @Hemantha, I understand the reason of the wording Vidhan/a and If we have to use one consistent name, I will prefer "Vidhan" as it is more commonly used in English Media. Using Assembly constituency also avoids that debate. @DaxServer makes a good case for dropping VSc. Venkat TL (talk) 14:17, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Category:Assembly constituencies of Punjab, India are using Dhuri Assembly Constituency. The naming is a total mess. I have looked at various uses. BBC uses FOO Assembly constituency. Indian paper The Hindu also uses FOO Assembly constituency (Note the capitalization). I propose that we also use the same and standardize all the constituency names to this type of capitalization without brackets, with rules for exceptions discussed above. @Hemantha @MPGuy2824 Venkat TL (talk) 10:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Category:Assembly constituencies of Goa have the capitalization and wording correct. For Goa constituencies, the word "Goa" and brackets need to be dropped for this proposal. Venkat TL (talk) 08:49, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

The A in Assembly has to be capital because it is a definite Assembly, Punjab Assembly in this case. Rest is acceptable. Venkat TL (talk) 09:40, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

LakshayYadav007 has made many edits related to party ideologies on Indian parties. Some of them I found questionable and reverted. Others I spared due to lack of my own knowledge. Please check if there are problems. Venkat TL (talk) 13:24, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Is elections.in reliable for election schedules and past election dates? This question had come up at Talk:2024 elections in India. Venkat TL (talk) 09:12, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Is the website elections.in good enough to cite the election results, say in constituency articles (eg. Kamalapur (Assembly constituency)) to start with? If there's a good alternate source, it's preferred, of course. — DaxServer (talk) 15:36, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

This ECI page has most of the general and state elections covered. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:59, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Can you access the website? I can't :/ — DaxServer (talk) 05:23, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I can. I'm in India (and aren't using a VPN, if that matters) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:05, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Looks like the connections are blocked from outside the country. The files in the archive are not downloadable either. Do you know other alternatives to the ECI official website? — DaxServer (talk) 07:41, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

You should be able to get to this archived page but the ECI site generates the download url on-the-fly, so downloading of files won't work. Some state CEO sites have the election results of (at least) the latest few elections, but i can't find any on the AP-CEO site. I can't think of any other official site. Any one else have some ideas? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:05, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

This list of pdfs seen by google on Telangana CEO site seems to roughly include all those listed under AP at that ECI link. hemantha (brief) 08:35, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

That's what I am looking for. Thanks hemantha!

What are your opinions on adding these pdfs as references, starting with constituency articles? If there's a secondary source, I'd use that, as usual. — DaxServer (talk) 09:05, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

As far as i can see, they are the same as the ECI pdfs. I don't see a problem with using them as a primary source. If you find a good website for secondary sources for elections, please inform the rest of us as well. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:52, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

• Sharing an example of discrepancy on this site: [1] is showing 1996 and 2002 for BJP but this source cannot be trusted because 2017 was won by BJP but this site is showing it for SP. Venkat TL (talk) 07:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

  Hi @Venkat TL:, @MPGuy2824:, @DaxServer:, @Hemantha: Guys I have added ideologies in the following list of Indian political parties from source https://www.elections.in/ Eg. Telangana Rashtra Samithi, Telugu Desam Party, Nationalist Congress Party, Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam, All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam, Biju Janata Dal. In my view this source elections.in doesn't qualify as a reliable sources category. Nonetheless since we lack credible source therefore I've added this source for ideologies and political position. You guys too agreed to use this source for ideologies of political parties. But in my view this can't be considered as reliable source at all. Thanks--Mariam57 (talk) 03:14, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

  @Mariam57 Ideology section is a major edit that should not be added with such shoddy sources like elections.in. Please use WP:HISTRS for ideology. If none is available, it is better to leave the ideology field empty than adding content from poor sources. I would suggest you to self revert all those edits where you added ideology using elections.in. Venkat TL (talk) 16:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

  I got it. Hi @Sneha04: and @Vif12vf: Guys do not add elections.in website for ideology and political positions. Whatever ideology and political position I added from elections.in I remove them one by one. In the mean time feel free to comment here. You've to provide more strong source for ideology. It must be considered as reliable sources. Thanks--Mariam57 (talk) 16:39, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

  Ok! It would have been good if you continued after a better Consensus. All right, Continue. Sneha04 ^💬 17:27, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

• I have come to a conclusion that election.in is not only unreliable, it has been inappropriately spammed across Wikipedia election related pages (seemingly to promote that site). I have started removing links of elections.in and adding the more reliable Election Commission site, as shown in this Special:Diff/1101321736 edit. I suggest others to do the same whenever they come accross links of elections.in on Wiki articles. Venkat TL (talk) 12:20, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Need corrected maps सत्यान्वेषी (talk) 18:34, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Which map is outdated? I think i added the locator maps for the MP constituencies less than 2 years back, and there hasn't been a new delimitation since then. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:04, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

@MPGuy2824, @सत्यान्वेषी had given more details on my talk page, that I copied to Talk:List of constituencies of the Rajasthan Legislative Assembly. It is not clear what the mistake in numbering is. Venkat TL (talk) 04:49, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Venkat. I've replied there. @सत्यान्वेषी: Now, what about the MP map. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:00, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

@MPGuy2824 The Madhya Pradesh Legislative Assembly constituency map fails to show the constituencies of the urban parts of Indore district even in its enlarged view. सत्यान्वेषी (talk) 05:06, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Most of the MP constituency maps are versions of File:Wahlkreise zur Vidhan Sabha von Madhya Pradesh.svg which is from an official government site. That said, the Indore constituencies are just shown as a segmented circle, and it would be good to show the true borders. The Assembly constituencies of Indore are divided based on wards of the Indore Municipal corporation. In my previous searches I wasn't able to find an official. current map that shows the wards of Indore. If you are able to find such a map, I should be able to update the base map for MP. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:18, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Since 2022 Gujarat and HP elections are upcoming, readers would be referring to the Guj and HP constituency pages. Although some of them are updated, many of them need updates from the ECI PDF of 2017 results. Fields in Template:Election Results table for Votes, registereed electors, turnout% etc, need to be added update. Please help to update the result information. Venkat TL (talk) 11:55, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

I need help and comment on creating the article of Teacher and Graduate constituencies on legislative councils in India. E.g - Patna (graduate constituency), Patna (teachers constituency). Help me in this. —— Poli Hunt (talk) 17:18, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Poli, start a draft and link to it from here. Hopefully you found some good sources. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:02, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

MPGuy2824, Thank You, Will start soon —— Poli Hunt (talk) 04:38, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Are those Parties notable which are Launched by Sitting MLA's? One of them is Awami Ittehad Party launched by Abdul Rashid Sheikh known as Engineer Rashid when he was elected from Langate Assembly constituency Independently. After being elected he launched his party. Will his party be Notable? ——— Poliiii (talk) 09:34, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@Poli Hunt, merge and redirect the party to section in the founder's bio. If there is enough content to have a standalone article WP:SPINOFF can be followed. Most of the time these parties are short lived, it makes sense to have this information only on the founder's bio. Venkat TL (talk) 09:45, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@Poli Hunt I’ve reverted this sock. Doug Weller talk 12:08, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

An Ex RSS worker filed affidavit claiming VHP, RSS set off bombs https://thewire.in/communalism/rss-worker-affidavit-right-wing-leaders-involved-maharashtra-blasts. The allegations are big, so I would like to ask your opinion on which pages it can be added to? Ravi Dwivedi (talk) 15:17, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

@Libreravi if there are articles about those individual events, then it can be added to those articles. I dont know if there are articles about those events or not. Venkat TL (talk) 17:19, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

@MPGuy2824 thank you for updating the registered elector numbers in the infobox. For Gujarat constituencies, I think it is important to add the number of registered electors in the election result box, as shown here Special:Diff/1108616363. While updating the new number in the infobox for registered electors in 2022, it is important to copy the 2017 data to the 2017 section or else the 2017 electors data will be overwritten with 2022 data and lost in the page history. Venkat TL (talk) 11:20, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

I think you pointed this out to me some time back. I've done the copying to the old election results, after that. If anybody else is also doing this updation, please take note of Venkat's instructions. Venkat, please continue with adding the empty electors template to the election results section. It is helpful during this process. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:30, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

An admin has posted here. Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#List_of_chief_ministers_of_Tamil_Nadu. Unless something is done to rectify, this FL will loose the FL status. Venkat TL (talk) 13:52, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Operation Kamala (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) needs updates. lot of operation have happened. @Libreravi: Please see if you can add. --Venkat TL (talk) 10:38, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TL Yes, I will add latest developments. Thanks for the mention. (Ravi Dwivedi (talk) 12:27, 4 September 2022 (UTC))

@Venkat TL I have added here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Kamala#Maharashtra and plan to add more in recent future. By the way, before the fall of maharashtra government, the central government harrased many by the use of investigative agencies, a part of operation lotus. If you find a reference which relates the use of investigative agencies with the coup, please let me know or add there directly. (Ravi Dwivedi (talk) 21:30, 4 September 2022 (UTC))

@Libreravi thank you. Since considerable time has passed since these events have happened, I think they would now be available in the form or books and journals that are more reliable WP:HISTRS. Whenever possible those better sources should be preferred. Venkat TL (talk) 11:22, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

• Sure, I will help you to update it soon, I'm updating Bharat Jodo Yatra right now, I will add a lot of content on this soon. Ok123l (talk) 14:38, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. --Venkat TL (talk) 14:49, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

@Venkat TLSomeone removed my edit on a wikipedia page. Please see if you can review. (Ravi Dwivedi (talk) 11:34, 11 September 2022 (UTC))

Ravi Dwivedi replied on Talk:Central Vista Redevelopment Project --Venkat TL (talk) 14:49, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Regarding diffs like [2] and others like it: Ideally, we wait for the elections to end, and the ECI results to come in pdf form (3 months or so after the election). Isn't update-after-2022 better in that case? That would ensure that we don't have to update twice for each election. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:12, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

@MPGuy2824 I had a deep thought on this. currently the 2022 ECI voter list data is already available. Since we are showing 2017 data as current data, the update tag is needed. Whether we update the infobox now or after the election is dependent on volunteers. The readers should be made aware that the data in infobox is outdated. Perhaps some of the readers might go ahead and update the voter data seeing the tag. I believe this will certainly be updated after 2022 results, if not before the 2022 election. Venkat TL (talk) 12:18, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Kinda makes sense. The only problem is that it will clutter up the bambots reports till the elections end. BTW, i had changed a few 2021's to 2022 among the GJ constituencies. You might want to check on those and revert those edits. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:21, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

@MPGuy2824 yes, I guess we will have to live with the tags till it gets updated. That is what the tags are for. I just ran the automated tool on the full constituency list, could not find anyone with "update|2022" can you point one? Venkat TL (talk) 12:28, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

I checked through my contribs. None of them are current, so i guess you updated all, after my edits. Cool.-MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:37, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

@MPGuy2824 I just updated Special:Diff/1105076548/1110086281 the list of constituency with the latest voter data. Infobox can be updated with this info and the reference. Venkat TL (talk) 13:57, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi. Don't transclude the infobox of legislative assembly articles into legislative terms (like you did for Rajasthan Legislative Assembly and 15th Rajasthan Assembly). Different infobox are to be added to these pages. Template:Infobox legislature is used for legislative assembly pages (Rajasthan Legislative Assembly) and Template:Infobox legislative term should be used for 15th Rajasthan Assembly. See 14th Maharashtra Assembly for example. Dhruv edits (talk) 18:23, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Both of these infobox are largely identical. Using one and then transcluding the same to the other page, makes sure that both show same updated information. If we use 2 different infobox, then only one of them gets updated and both end up showing different info. Do you have any solution to this problem? In my opinion this is a larger problem that need to be solved than the one caused by using a slightly different infobox template.Venkat TL (talk) 10:02, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@Dhruv edits Please take a look at the current verson of Delhi Assembly and 7th delhi assembly you have updated the former and forgot to update the latter. Now the 7th Delhi Assembly infobox is showing wrong info. There is no vacant seat in assembly as of now as the image of assembly in infobox is depicting. Venkat TL (talk) 12:37, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

See their brazen propaganda on Navy flag. Venkat TL (talk) 18:42, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi @MPGuy2824, on MLA articles link Special:Diff/1111303853/1111312538 is it necessary to add Category:Members of the Rajasthan Legislative Assembly if the MLA term category is already there? I think only the term category is needed. What is the current practice? Venkat TL (talk) 10:15, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Most of the time, if an article is in a sub-category (or sub-sub category), it doesn't need to go in the parent category. In this case more so, since the parent category is a container (see the message right on top), and ideally should not have any articles in it. Usually, the "Members of the X Legislative Assembly" category is added by the article creator, or a wikignome, who didn't know that there was a more appropriate sub-category. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:24, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Understood. Thank you for explaining. --Venkat TL (talk) 10:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Samata Party § Party History and leadership debate. Venkat TL (talk) 16:34, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

On 3 September I linked list of MLAs and constituency on district articles. Good to see that the viewer count tripled after that [3] This shows that readers are not aware of the existence of constituency articles. We should prioritize adding a Politics section on all the geo articles. The section should contain a link to MLA, MP and constituency articles (in prose or table form) Venkat TL (talk) 10:57, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

So far this linking of Assembly constituency with districts is Done for districts in

1. Tamil Nadu
2. Himachal Pradesh
3. Gujarat
4. Goa
5. Bihar
6. Jharkhand

Venkat TL (talk) 11:28, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

This is unrelated, but have you looked at this? There is a similar page for the LS constituency template as well. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:37, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

@MPGuy2824 I am seeing this for the first time. What does it show? empty template fields or missing template fields? Venkat TL (talk) 12:44, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Missing fields, wrong fields (paarty instead of party, e.g.). The report only updates monthly, sadly. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:54, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

• User:MPGuy2824, is it a problem if there are empty fields in infobox? I Add empty fields for others to fill up in infobox. If there are empty fields even new users can add and update. If no empty field is there, then probably they cannot help, unless experienced user comes and adds. It is a big headache if I want to add some value in the infobox, but I find there is no empty field to fill up. I have to open Infobox template page, and then copy paste the entire infobox everytime. I suggest not removing the empty fields and comments while adding infobox constituency in articles. Venkat TL (talk) 18:58, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Has a consensus been achieved regarding opinion polls? A user has started adding them for Gujarat. Dhruv edits (talk) 09:46, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

I discussed this with Dhruv edits and MPGuy2824. A line containing survey by reliable source with mandatory error % and sample size was added to Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian politics/Election: Article structure. C Voter has not released their sample size or error % so they should not be added. Venkat TL (talk) 12:02, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

I suggest all the members of the Wikiproject India politics, give more priority to improving and updating the articles for Gujarat and Himachal Pradesh constituencies as they are up for elections. Use MOS:INDCONST as guide. Major issues to be fixed are.

• Missing election results in constituencies for 2017, 2012
• Missing infobox fields.
• Constituency Not inter-linked with the city or town article. There should be links on both articles to each other.

Venkat TL (talk) 16:33, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:2022 Himachal Pradesh Legislative Assembly election § RfC for adding party switch by non notable politicians into the Background section. Venkat TL (talk) 14:26, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Category:Members of the Andhra Pradesh Legislature, 1983–1985 has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello. I noticed the indian election pages, on the national as well as on the state level, are the only ones to make election diagrams in which the colored dots for parties seats are circled in black, like here. All the others elections pages of every others countries simply have the colors, without the black circles, like here, so I don't see how it's needed. Meanwhile, the black circles add a lot of contrast which make the colors look way darker than they are, and it make it a bit hard to look at overall. I'm not saying all the old files should be replaced, it would cause a lot of work, but I suggest the use of black circles be phased out as elections go by. What do you think? Aréat (talk) 23:46, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Either seem fine to me. I'll note that the default setting of the tool is to have 0 width of the border. Most folks will use the default (except if a party's color is close to white). Maybe you can talk with the people who use a border for each color and come to a consensus. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:02, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

@Aréat The use of black border is necessary because in Indian elections, there are a lot of independent MLAs/ MPs/ councillors, represented by light grey color, which will be barely visible in white background without a border. Same is the case with seats that get vacant, white color is completely invisible without a border. Also, as noted by MPGuy2824, 0 width border is default, which is why many don't care to add a border. In order to have a consistent approach, black borders are added to most of the election diagrams. Dhruv edits (talk) 02:23, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

@Dhruv edits: Independents candidates getting seats is very common in many countries in which we still use grey without problems, shades such as #DCDCDC are visible enough on a white background, cf for example here in Gambia last election. I can see the need for vacant white seats, although imo having them invisible portray well the fact they're vacants. But if it's really needed, maybe we can agree on the use of black borders for the vacants seats only? I know it's the defaut way the page work, but it doesn't mean the diagrams made without it were done so because the user didn't bother. Rather, they obviously didn't feel a need for it. The question really is : if it's not used for the election pages of the 190+ others countries plus their states and regional ones, is it really needed in the first place on indian ones? I don't see what it add. Meanwhile, it has the clear shortcoming of making the party colors look darker than they are, when the purpose of the diagrams in the first place is to show their seats in a way that they're identifiable by their colors.--Aréat (talk) 12:48, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

This system is seen again recently on the Malaysian election. I think it could be extended to Indian election as well, per the arguments above. @Dhruv edits: What do you think?--Aréat (talk) 05:16, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Category:Members of the Andhra Pradesh Legislature, 1983–1985 has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello. I noticed the indian election pages, on the national as well as on the state level, are the only ones to make election diagrams in which the colored dots for parties seats are circled in black, like here. All the others elections pages of every others countries simply have the colors, without the black circles, like here, so I don't see how it's needed. Meanwhile, the black circles add a lot of contrast which make the colors look way darker than they are, and it make it a bit hard to look at overall. I'm not saying all the old files should be replaced, it would cause a lot of work, but I suggest the use of black circles be phased out as elections go by. What do you think? Aréat (talk) 23:46, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Either seem fine to me. I'll note that the default setting of the tool is to have 0 width of the border. Most folks will use the default (except if a party's color is close to white). Maybe you can talk with the people who use a border for each color and come to a consensus. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:02, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

@Aréat The use of black border is necessary because in Indian elections, there are a lot of independent MLAs/ MPs/ councillors, represented by light grey color, which will be barely visible in white background without a border. Same is the case with seats that get vacant, white color is completely invisible without a border. Also, as noted by MPGuy2824, 0 width border is default, which is why many don't care to add a border. In order to have a consistent approach, black borders are added to most of the election diagrams. Dhruv edits (talk) 02:23, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

@Dhruv edits: Independents candidates getting seats is very common in many countries in which we still use grey without problems, shades such as #DCDCDC are visible enough on a white background, cf for example here in Gambia last election. I can see the need for vacant white seats, although imo having them invisible portray well the fact they're vacants. But if it's really needed, maybe we can agree on the use of black borders for the vacants seats only? I know it's the defaut way the page work, but it doesn't mean the diagrams made without it were done so because the user didn't bother. Rather, they obviously didn't feel a need for it. The question really is : if it's not used for the election pages of the 190+ others countries plus their states and regional ones, is it really needed in the first place on indian ones? I don't see what it add. Meanwhile, it has the clear shortcoming of making the party colors look darker than they are, when the purpose of the diagrams in the first place is to show their seats in a way that they're identifiable by their colors.--Aréat (talk) 12:48, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

This system is seen again recently on the Malaysian election. I think it could be extended to Indian election as well, per the arguments above. @Dhruv edits: What do you think?--Aréat (talk) 05:16, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Not sure about anyone else, but I am extremely bored of seeing endless (and often poorly formatted) changes to the party leader images in general election article infoboxes. I would like to propose that we switch to using {{Infobox legislative election}} for the general election articles – this infobox is generally used in countries where more than nine parties win seats in general elections (which is the case in India). As an example, this is what it would look like on the 2019 election article. It removes the need for the images of the party leaders (personally I don't think images should be used except when it is an election of an individual like presidential elections). Thoughts? Cheers, Number 57 12:50, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Seems interesting Infobox. Altho it seems a bit of work to put all the parties data but doable if given enough time. Seems widely used, in 1137 articles as of now. Don't know how other country articles are affected (effected?) w.r.t. images but we have a ton of editors [politically] motivated to show the best of our dear political leaders. If removing them altogether would stop the disruption, then I'd say we go that way — DaxServer (t · m · c) 13:21, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

I have election articles from the vast majority of countries on my watchlist. India stands out as one that has constant changes of images – none of the others seem to have such an issue. Number 57 18:12, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

@Chennai Super Kings Lover:, @Shakya2007: as soon as the block against Sharad expired, he started editing the Rajya Sabha election pages without discussing. He has changed the template to all the rajya sabha election wikipages. I think we should discuss about him here, otherwise he will get notified. Ku423winz1 (talk) 12:11, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

All editors are requested to put their valuable opinion in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alliances formed by left-wing parties in the states of India. XYZ 250706 (talk) 06:06, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

@Ku423winz1,Why you have opened discussion topic here, on the talk page of controversal 1964 Calcutta riots,I'm moving this topic to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian politics? Chennai Super Kings Lover (talk)

@XYZ 250706: discuss it here. Ku423winz1 (talk) 12:19, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

@Ku423winz1 @User:Chennai Super Kings Lover @ User:Shakya2007 User Sharad SHRD7 is again started disruptions and he is trying to delete an article written by me : Alliances formed by left-wing parties in the states of India. Wikipedia reviewer User:Onel5969 previously said me to add more citations to the page and I added that and then he said nothing against that page. Please say your opinion in that page. The page is being used in many other pages. XYZ 250706 (talk) 12:23, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

I mean in the talk page of that article. XYZ 250706 (talk) 12:29, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

He needs to be banned. Shakya2007 (talk) 12:41, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

@Shakya2007: If u see any vandalism kindly report here, Don't make personal comments on editors. Chennai Super Kings Lover (talk)

SharadSHRD7 (talk) , Kindly join the discussion! Chennai Super Kings Lover (talk) Chennai Super Kings Lover (talk) 13:21, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Regarding to Rajya Sabha elections: Template:Infobox legislative election shows the election results in clear format with +/- column to indicate net gain/loss of seats. The list won't contain infinite parties because every year, elections happen only for less than 100 seats. I agree to switch the template to image-based template only if the list cross 25+ parties.

Regarding to Alliances formed by left-wing parties in the states of India: I've nominated the article for deletion because it's based on original research.

Note: I've stopped editing articles of UPA and other parties in UPA, because now I agree DMK and other regional parties which are in alliance with Congress are part of UPA. But in my opinion, it's unnecessary to add alliances in the Infobox of Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha. That's why I started Rfc a week before in the talk page of Lok Sabha, in which discussion is ongoing. So I request all editors to wait until the closure of Rfc discussion. SharadSHRD7 (talk) 14:41, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

@SharadSHRD7: I agree to your opinion about rajya sabha election results, beside that, the rajya sabha election does not take place for all the seats in a single year, hence I think using Template:Infobox multi party election will be better for it and therefore I also thanked you (and the net tally of all parties in all 245 seats will be in the article). But you should have waited until the conclusion is out. Especially when you are saying the same thing to others, you must also follow your own words, while you are completely changing a sensitive thing like infobox. And infobox election also has a parameter to show net change. Ku423winz1 (talk) 16:07, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedis reviewer User:Onel5969 has already reviewed the page and then I added many citations and informed him and then he did not raise objection against it. This article contains information derived from many reliable sources and wikipedia pages, no speculations by me XYZ 250706 (talk) 16:09, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for spelling mistake. It should be Wikipedia reviewer. XYZ 250706 (talk) 16:11, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

SharadSHRD7 please stop your disruptive editing. You are reverting my edits without proper explanation. For example your are removing the addition of Left Front in various pages like Next Bihar Legislative Assembly election, 2019 Indian general election, 2022 Himachal Pradesh Legislative Assembly election etc. In 2019 Indian general election, left front of communist leaning parties were added as national level alliances (it was added not by me, it was added by other editors), I only added the redirect of it to Alliances formed by left-wing parties in the states of India. XYZ 250706 (talk) 05:50, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

@User:SharadSHRD7 If you like to experiment with your edits, you can use your sandbox. XYZ 250706 (talk) 05:52, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Besides, you added BRS+ in 2023 Telangana Legislative Assembly election, I added BRS + Left like 2019 Haryana Legislative Assembly election where INLD-SAD alliance was added although SAD has 0 MLAs at the time of election. You removed BRS + Left Front alliance in Bharat Rashtra Samithi. That was added by other editors like User:Rodw, User:Chennai Super Kings Lover, User Talk:Jay942942. You are reverting other editor's edits on your attempt to revert my edit. XYZ 250706 (talk) 06:04, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Besides in Next Indian general election pages in different states, name of national alliances are being added without adding regional alliances. So Left Democratic Front was added according to ^{[1][2][3][4][5]}. According to @Chennai Super Kings Lover, these citations are reliable. User SharadSHRD7 is reverting that also. XYZ 250706 (talk) 06:38, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Besides D Raja also said that it is the Left alone that can ideologically challenge and defeat the RSS providing an alternative.(https://www.theweek.in/news/india/2022/04/06/cpi-cpim-call-for-left-unity-to-fight-against-rss-bjp.html) XYZ 250706 (talk) 06:57, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Besides, you have deleted parties and alliances in Next Indian general election in Uttar Pradesh. XYZ 250706 (talk) 06:53, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

@Chennai Super Kings Lover @Shakya2007 and other editors who have recently edited the article United Progressive Alliance, Jammu & Kashmir National Conference is added to UPA members. But JKNC is not allied with congress or other UPA members in the only state (UT) where it has presence (i.e., Jammu and Kashmir). So I think we cannot call it as UPA member. The source given there only says that Farooq Abdullah of JKNC was among the opposition leaders who took part in discussion to strengthen UPA. XYZ 250706 (talk) 08:47, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

@Chennai Super Kings Lover In 2019 Indian general election in Jammu and Kashmir, JKNC contested in 3 seats and in 2 seats they had direct contest with INC. XYZ 250706 (talk) 03:35, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

@XYZ 250706, Refer to the source:^[1], Since 2009 JKNC is part of UPA, there was speculation, that JKNC will leave UPA but JKNC denied^[2] since then they have not left UPA, but JKNC is also part of GUPKAR Alliance in Jammu and Kashmir for Next Jammu and Kashmir Legislative Assembly election, but in National Level, they are part of UPA.^[3].If you find any source that states JKNC not part of UPA, Kindly bring to the discussion! Chennai Super Kings Lover (talk)