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Freya Jayawardana[edit]

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this subject doesn't meet WP:GNG criteria and can't stand-alone (WP:NLIST) as a musician (WP:MUSIC and WP:BANDMEMBER). May this subject have to be redirect to List of JKT48 members page. Ariandi Lie ^{Let's talk} 17:09, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yubin Shin[edit]

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There is no mention of her in any of the sources. Please check GNG. Claggy (talk) 15:34, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment: All the links are (currently) invalid, and I could not locate any of them at the Internet Archive either. Curious. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Chizo 1 Germany[edit]

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An article that lacks the minimal inclusion for bios. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. A WP:MILL. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Agreed. Subject did not pass WP:GNG, WP:NACTOR or WP:NSINGER. Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 10:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Nothing to establish notability here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Doesn't meet WP:GNG. The Dailytrust here seems to be a relieve but the problem is that it is not a reliable source despite being part of Newspaper Proprietors' Association of Nigeria per its about. Legit here is mixed with different cases with none GNG. His song becoming a hit is not enough without disclosed more sales, wins and nominatins at best. - Tumbuka Arch (talk) 13:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Tumbuka Arch, Daily trust per WP:NGRS is a reliable source. However in this context, it's an interview and per WP:INTERVIEW, isn't reliable. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 23:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lauren King (actress)[edit]

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No evidence of notability under WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. All available sources are primary sources, trivial mentions, or affiliated with this actress's agency. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: There's also an American actress with the same name, but I find nothing for this individual. The only website is the GMA one used in the article, which isn't enough to build an article here. Oaktree b (talk) 03:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Also doesn't have an article on the Tagalog (Filipino) wikipedia, limiting our search for sources and not helping the search for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 03:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  For topics about the Philippines, English sources are the most plentiful. If you can't find any English sources, it'll be much harder to find sources in other languages. Howard the Duck (talk) 07:13, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Notability not found. Xxanthippe (talk) 07:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]
• Delete I only found primary sources or unrelated Lauren King's in my GSearch and GNews Search --Lenticel ^(talk) 11:35, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. I hope an admin can address; an editor moved the page to their userspace and now we are discussing a redirect. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:12, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Flagging for @Liz - the cross-namespace redirect deleted above was to a page that had been under discussion here for deletion. Not sure what the procedure is when the page is draftified before conclusion of a discussion but mentioning in case you want to close this discussion now. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, User:Dclemens1971, I've moved the article back to main space from User space. The editor clearly wants the article to be draftified or userfied. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Meritt North[edit]

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Semi-advertorialized WP:BLP of an actress and writer, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing inclusion criteria for actresses or writers. The main notability claim on the table here is that her work exists, which is not automatic grounds for an article -- the notability test doesn't hinge on doing stuff per se, it hinges on the amount of third-party coverage and analysis that has or hasn't been paid to the stuff she did in WP:GNG-worthy sources like media or books.
But this is referenced entirely to primary sources that are not support for notability at all -- audiobook narration and writing credits sourced to the works' presence on online bookstores, acting credits sourced to her own self-published acting résumé, volunteer work sourced to the self-published websites of directly affiliated organizations, and I've already stripped a good half-dozen citations to IMDb on the grounds of IMDb not being a reliable source -- with not a whit of GNG-building coverage about her in reliable sources shown at all.
You don't make a writer notable by sourcing her books to Amazon as evidence that they exist, you make a writer notable by sourcing her books to reviews of the books by professional literary critics in newspapers or magazines as evidence that they got significant attention. You don't make an actress notable by sourcing her acting roles to IMDb or her own résumé, you make an actress notable by sourcing her acting roles to reviews of the films or television shows that singled her performance out for third-party analysis. And on and so forth.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to have better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 13:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  Dear Bearcat,

  I appreciate the opportunity to address the concerns raised about the citations supporting the role of Krystle Minkoff as an actress. It is important to ensure that the information on Wikipedia is both accurate and verifiable.

  Regarding the citations numbered 12-17, I would like to emphasize that these sources are independently verified and adequately support her credited role as an actress under her given legal name, Krystle Minkoff. These credits are also reflected on IMDb, which follows strict guidelines for crediting individuals in the entertainment industry.

  It is important to note that the aim should be to enhance the quality of information on Wikipedia, not to indiscriminately nominate entire articles for deletion due to issues with specific sections or titles. Each piece of information should be evaluated on its own merits and improved where necessary.

  There are numerous citations that document her work as an actress, voice actress, and author under both Meritt North and Krystle Minkoff. These sources collectively substantiate her contributions and career, aligning with Wikipedia’s standards for verifiability and notability.

  I hope this clarifies the situation, and I am open to working collaboratively to address any specific concerns you may have to ensure the information remains reliable and well-documented.

  Best regards,

  ScorpioKLM Mooresklm2016 (talk) 14:12, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  If there is room for improvement or a few items that you absolutely insist must be removed, let's work together to resolve them. I don't think that just because you may take issue with one or a couple items, that the entire page is not useful, informational, and in the public interest.

  ScorpioKLM Mooresklm2016 (talk) 14:15, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Again: we are not looking for simple verification that she had acting roles. The notability test for an actress is not passed by listing acting roles, it's passed by showing evidence that people without a vested interest in her career (namely journalists and film critics) have assessed her performances as being significant enough to analyze in prose. Such as reviews of the films or television shows which singled her performances out for attention, or journalist-written news articles profiling her. The notability test for a Wikipedia article is not "did stuff", it's "had independent third-party attention and analysis bestowed upon the stuff that she did by people who weren't just being paid to publicize her". So establishing notability as an actress doesn't hinge on her own résumé, or IMDB: it hinges on showing that her work as an actress has made her a subject that journalists cover as newsworthy in sources independent of herself. Bearcat (talk) 14:21, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as there isn't any secondary sources which are good enough to make her notable. OhHaiMark (talk) 01:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, Bearcat, how about deleting the title of actress and the acting credits table. Would this suit you? ScorpioKLM

No, that wouldn't "suit" me, because you haven't properly established her notability as a writer or audiobook narrator either. Those work the same way: her notability for either of those things is not established by citing her work to itself as proof that it exists, and still requires literary critics to establish her books as significant by reviewing them in newspapers, magazines or literary journals.
No matter what occupation a person works in, they always still have to be shown to have WP:GNG-worthy coverage about it in reliable sources independent of their own public relations materials, and you simply haven't used any GNG-worthy sourcing to support this article at all. So the problem isn't resolved just by taking acting roles out of the article, because you haven't properly sourced her writing or narration work either. The whole article is badly sourced, not just the acting section alone. Bearcat (talk) 14:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple Independent Sources: The citations we’ve included are from multiple independent sources, not just self-references or public relations materials. These sources include reputable databases, industry publications, and media outlets that adhere to strict verification standards. 
Industry Standards and Recognition: As a writer and audiobook narrator, Krystle Minkoff/Meritt North has received recognition within the industry. While you emphasize the need for literary critics to review her books, the notability can also be established through awards, nominations, and notable projects she has been a part of. These are documented in the citations provided. 
Audiobook Narration: The role of an audiobook narrator is inherently significant within the literary and entertainment industries. Notability in this field is often established through the body of work and collaborations with well-known authors and publishers. Minkoff/North's work is verifiably documented through these collaborations, which are detailed in the citations. 
WP 
Compliance: We have adhered to Wikipedia's General Notability Guidelines (WP 
). The sources used to support her notability are reliable, independent, and provide significant coverage about her work. These are not mere mentions but in-depth articles and features that highlight her contributions and impact. 
Proof in Citations: The citations include reviews, interviews, and articles from established media and literary platforms. These are GNG-worthy sources that validate her achievements and establish her as a notable figure in both writing and audiobook narration. 
Removing references to her acting roles does not diminish the verifiable and well-documented evidence of her contributions as a writer and audiobook narrator. The proof is in the detailed and independent citations that have been meticulously provided to support her notability in these fields. 
I believe that a comprehensive evaluation of the sources will reveal that the criteria for notability are indeed met, and Krystle Minkoff's diverse career merits recognition across her various roles. 

I highly disagree. Krystle Minkoff and Meritt North have been cited over 90 times by various websites, online newspapers, journals, and magazines crediting her for all of her audiobook narrations. 

However, in order for IMDb to credit officially, it has to be reviewed and approved by IMDb, casting directors, directors, and other actors. It is up for scrutiny by all and goes through a lengthy period of scrutinization before being attributed a final credit. There are 3 titles to which Meritt aka Krystle Minkoff and credited by such, has this blue official IMDb credit. Just a consideration. 

Here is the strict incliusion of credits criteria that must be met on IMDb. https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/filmography-credits/imdb-credit-eligibility-faq/GXMWNMB8LQCZYFH8?ref_=helpart_nav_10# 
What do you mean by "eligible"? 
A. As stated above, the first and most important thing is to have received a credit on the title. There are a few additional requirements -- we normally only list people who were credited in the original version of a title. For films, this means we'll only list people credited in the initial original theatrical release; for TV titles, it means people credited when the show first aired. 

B. When a title is announced or in production and is added to the database, our editors will normally start accepting credits for it. These credits, as per the disclaimer on the page, are always subject to change and can be removed at any time. When the title is actually released (or about to be released) and credits are finalized by the production, our editors routinely compare our listing with the actual on-screen credits and delete any entries that cannot be verified or do not match. If you used to be listed on a title and your credit has disappeared, it means our editors could not verify its accuracy during one of these routine checks. 

C. There are 4 credits that have been verified by IMDb. 

2017 
Reelz Murder Made Me Famous | 2 Episodes 
Patron & Mother 

2017 
John Gotti | Season 3, Episode 8 
Steak House Patron 

2017 
David Koresh | Season 3, Episode 7 
Mother 

2016 
Queen of the South (TV series) | 4 episodes 
Campaign Supporter 

E. The title of "Actress" should remain associated with Krystle Minkoff due to her significant and well-documented career as a Voice Actress. Here are several key points supporting this stance: 

Extensive Experience: Krystle Minkoff has an extensive body of work as a Voice Actress, which inherently falls under the broader category of acting. Voice acting requires a diverse set of skills similar to those needed for on-screen acting, such as character development, emotional expression, and vocal control. 

Notable Roles: Her roles as a Voice Actress have been notable and influential within the industry. These roles contribute to her overall recognition as an actress, as voice acting is a respected and integral part of the entertainment field. 

Published Credits: There are numerous publications and sources that document her work as a Voice Actress. These sources include her credited roles on platforms such as IMDb, which adhere to strict guidelines for verifying the legitimacy of professional credits. 

Industry Standards: In the entertainment industry, individuals who perform voice acting are commonly referred to as actors or actresses. This standard industry terminology reflects the comprehensive nature of their work, encompassing all forms of acting, whether it be on-screen or voice-over. 

Verifiability and Notability: The information regarding her career as a Voice Actress is verifiable through multiple independent sources, fulfilling Wikipedia’s criteria for notability. This substantiates her professional title as an actress, encompassing her voice acting achievements. 

Removing the title of "Actress" would not only undermine her substantial contributions to the field of voice acting but also misrepresent the comprehensive nature of her career. Therefore, it is both accurate and appropriate to maintain the title of "Actress" to reflect her extensive and notable experience in the industry. 

Kindly review and advise. 
ScorpioKLM 

Bearcat, I respectfully disagree with your statement that we haven't properly established Krystle Minkoff's notability as a writer or audiobook narrator. Let me explain why I believe the proof is in the citations provided: 
Multiple Independent Sources: The citations we’ve included are from multiple independent sources, not just self-references or public relations materials. These sources include reputable databases, industry publications, and media outlets that adhere to strict verification standards. 
Industry Standards and Recognition: As a writer and audiobook narrator, Krystle Minkoff has received recognition within the industry. While you emphasize the need for literary critics to review her books, the notability can also be established through awards, nominations, and notable projects she has been a part of. These are documented in the citations provided. 
Audiobook Narration: The role of an audiobook narrator is inherently significant within the literary and entertainment industries. Notability in this field is often established through the body of work and collaborations with well-known authors and publishers. Minkoff’s work is verifiably documented through these collaborations, which are detailed in the citations. 
WP 
Compliance: We have adhered to Wikipedia's General Notability Guidelines (WP 
). The sources used to support her notability are reliable, independent, and provide significant coverage about her work. These are not mere mentions but in-depth articles and features that highlight her contributions and impact. 
Proof in Citations: The citations include reviews, interviews, and articles from established media and literary platforms. These are GNG-worthy sources that validate her achievements and establish her as a notable figure in both writing and audiobook narration. 
Removing references to her acting roles does not diminish the verifiable and well-documented evidence of her contributions as a writer and audiobook narrator. The proof is in the detailed and independent citations that have been meticulously provided to support her notability in these fields. 
I believe that a comprehensive evaluation of the sources will reveal that the criteria for notability are indeed met, and Krystle Minkoff's diverse career merits recognition across her various roles. 

I highly disagree. Krystle Minkoff and Meritt North have been cited over 90 times by various websites, online newspapers, journals, and magazines crediting her for all of her audiobook narrations. 

In addition: When a title on IMDb is announced or in production and is added to the database, thier editors will normally start accepting credits for it. These credits, as per the disclaimer on the page, are always subject to change and can be removed at any time. When the title is actually released (or about to be released) and credits are finalized by the production, our editors routinely compare our listing with the actual on-screen credits and delete any entries that cannot be verified or do not match. If you used to be listed on a title and your credit has disappeared, it means our editors could not verify its accuracy during one of these routine checks. 

D. There are 4 credits that have been verified by IMDb. 

2017 
Reelz Murder Made Me Famous | 2 Episodes 
Patron & Mother 

2017 
John Gotti | Season 3, Episode 8 
Steak House Patron 

2017 
David Koresh | Season 3, Episode 7 
Mother 

2016 
Queen of the South (TV series) | 4 episodes 
Campaign Supporter 

E. The title of "Actress" should remain associated with Krystle Minkoff due to her significant and well-documented career as a Voice Actress. Here are several key points supporting this stance: 

Extensive Experience: Krystle Minkoff has an extensive body of work as a Voice Actress, which inherently falls under the broader category of acting. Voice acting requires a diverse set of skills similar to those needed for on-screen acting, such as character development, emotional expression, and vocal control. 

Notable Roles: Her roles as a Voice Actress have been notable and influential within the industry. These roles contribute to her overall recognition as an actress, as voice acting is a respected and integral part of the entertainment field. 

Published Credits: There are numerous publications and sources that document her work as a Voice Actress. These sources include her credited roles on platforms such as IMDb, which adhere to strict guidelines for verifying the legitimacy of professional credits. 

Industry Standards: In the entertainment industry, individuals who perform voice acting are commonly referred to as actors or actresses. This standard industry terminology reflects the comprehensive nature of their work, encompassing all forms of acting, whether it be on-screen or voice-over. 

Verifiability and Notability: The information regarding her career as a Voice Actress is verifiable through multiple independent sources, fulfilling Wikipedia’s criteria for notability. This substantiates her professional title as an actress, encompassing her voice acting achievements. 

Removing the title of "Actress" would not only undermine her substantial contributions to the field of voice acting but also misrepresent the comprehensive nature of her career. Therefore, it is both accurate and appropriate to maintain the title of "Actress" to reflect her extensive and notable experience in the industry. 

Review policy at this URL: https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/filmography-credits/imdb-credit-eligibility-faq/GXMWNMB8LQCZYFH8?ref_=helpart_nav_10# 

Kindly review and advise. 
ScorpioKLM 

These are GNG-worthy sources that validate her achievements and establish her as a notable figure in both writing and audiobook narration.

No, you have not cited third-party media coverage and analysis about it, you're citing her own work's presence as titles for sale in online bookstores. Again: you do not establish a writer's notability by citing her work to its own presence on Amazon or Audible or Kobo or Booktopia or Overdrive; you establish a writer's notability by citing it to journalists and/or literary critics independently reviewing her work in a newspaper, magazine or literary journal. Bearcat (talk) 15:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - We can't use literally everything proffered above by ScorpioKLM (online storefront/connexion to subject), and the same rationale applies to almost every source in the article itself, with those that aren't merchants/her publishers being content-free profiles or stuff she wrote under the "Krystle Minkoff" moniker. None of the lot is usable in any way, shape, or form. ScorpioKLM, we don't cite IMDb because multiple discussions over the years in re their verification and fact-checking (i.e. their editorial oversight) have concluded it's a joke. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 15:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - the article is sourced to primary sources. I can find no coverage at all to substantiate inclusion of this biography on Wikipedia. -- Whpq (talk) 17:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Despite the wall of words, notability is not established. Mccapra (talk) 18:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete In addition to the above, there's statements like "Meritt North had a successful 20-year career in sleep medicine prior to her career in the entertainment industry" - her entertainment career began in 2016 when she would have been 33. One link in her bibliography (Journal of Sleep Disorders & Therapy) is flagged as an unreliable source. Orange sticker (talk) 22:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Admin comment I've p-blocked Mooresklm2016 from here & the article to allow discussion to continue uninterrupted. They have made a sufficient case for closer to take it on board when assessing the discussion. Star Mississippi 14:02, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete: per G11. voorts (talk/contributions) 16:52, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above comments - obviously promotional and inadequate third-party coverage. HarukaAmaranth 01:53, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete does not satisfy the GNG; no SIGCOV RS available. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 05:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Along with everyone else I couldn't find WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS. WP:GNG isn't met. TarnishedPath^talk 06:56, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Makoma Mohale[edit]

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Check notability by WP:GNGACTOR Claggy (talk) 22:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete There is no Reliable Sources in the article at all. Untamed1910 (talk) 03:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete WP:CSD by WP:G5. Claggy (talk) 15:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  G5 wouldn't technically apply as they weren't blocked or banned before the article was created (it only applies to block evasion). Also, as the nom you are already counted as having made an implicit bolded delete, though if you have a non-delete proposal (for example, speedy delete) you can do so, though usually you'd add it into the original nom comment. Alpha3031 (t • c) 15:54, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've struck the duplicate vote. I can't see why CSD G5 would apply here. It would also help if you gave a better deletion rationale demonstrating BEFORE had been done before nominating this article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sokpoly Voeun[edit]

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Semi-advertorialized article about a filmmaker and photographer, not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria for filmmakers or photographers. The strongest attempted notability claim here is a table of "nominations" for awards at various film festivals, except there aren't actually real awards in the mix here: three of the listed festivals are just "screened" or "selected", with no evidence of any actual award nominations or wins shown at all, and most of them are "to be announced" because the festival is still in the future and hasn't even released its program announcements yet, so it still isn't even confirmed that the film will even screen there at all, let alone win any awards.
All of them, further, are "sourced" to the self-published websites of the film festivals themselves, rather than media coverage, and the rest of the footnotes are also a mix of primary and unreliable sources that aren't support for notability, rather than WP:GNG-building coverage in media or books.
There's also a possible conflict of interest here, as the creator and primary other editor have been blocked as sockpuppets in an WP:SPI check following their behaviour in the related Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reign in Slumber discussion. Bearcat (talk) 14:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rajan Simkhada[edit]

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It reflects poorly on us to host blatant spam like this. I went in to clean it up but couldn't find sources to support a Wikipedia biography. Most links are dead but those that I could access didn't support the claims or cover him in any depth. The is WP:UPE spam and the subject fails WP:GNG. Usedtobecool ☎️ 11:26, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Amir Hossein Hashemi[edit]

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doesn't meet WP:GNGACTOR, Non include WP:RSP Claggy (talk) 05:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mark Bauman[edit]

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Moved unilaterally to mainspace after prior draftification. I see poor referencing, churnalism, and lists of "stuff" albeit as prose. WP:BIO insists on references for facts subject to challenge, and there is a shortfall, so I see a WP:BIO failure. I also see WP:ADMASQ for a WP:ROTM "cross-platform media executive, filmmaker, print and broadcast journalist, and environmentalist." doing his job. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:51, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: PROMO. The sourcing used is either primary or passing mentions. Nothing we'd use for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 16:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Refer to my /Decode subpage (linked in my signature as "critiques").

• I can't assess https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/12/business/grid-news-site-live.html (walled).
• https://www.axios.com/2021/07/10/dc-journalists-launch-media-company is useless for notability (too sparse). No discussion of Bauman.
• https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/03/grid-news-the-messenger-startup is useless for notability (too sparse). Name-drop, zero discussion of Bauman.
• https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/tech-exec-invests-in-digital-news-startup-launched-by-veteran-journalists.html is useless for notability (too sparse). No discussion of Bauman; everything seemingly about him is actually claims about the startup attributed to Bauman.
• https://digiday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/07/DIGIDAY-MEDIA-AWARDS_Winners-Guide-2023_062923-2.pdf is a non-sequitur.
• I can't assess https://www.adweek.com/media/laura-mcgann-has-reimagined-reporting-using-an-intersectional-structurally-focused-approach/ (walled). Given the article is about someone else, I can't imagine this is too useful for an article on Bauman.
• https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181001-is-this-the-last-chance-to-see-the-titanic is useless for notability (too sparse, possibly wrong subject). Shit He Says, no actual discussion of Bauman. I should note that my own search for sources (string: "Mark Bauman") returned primarily non-responsive content, so I would be very concerned about conflating multiple Mark Baumans.
• https://web.archive.org/web/20190519214223/https://www.virtualwonders.com/ is useless for notability (website homepage).
• https://thinkwellgroup.com/blog/2020/08/21/exploring-the-details-with-virtual-wonders/ is useless for notability (too sparse). No discussion of Bauman.
• https://wyse.gmu.edu/mark-bauman/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject). I note this bio omits anything involving GRID or any media startups; one would think, given their journalism pedigree is mentioned, that these would be brought up.
• https://thepearsoninstitute.org/speaker/mark-bauman is useless for notability (connexion to subject). The image on this page looks like a completely different guy from the WYSE image, disregarding the glasses.
• https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/ng-live-engineering-exploration-technology/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject).
• https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-oct-17-ca-cinefile17_-story.html is useless for notability (too sparse). Shit He Says, no discussion of Bauman.
• https://www.documentary.org/column/festival-focus-national-geographic-all-roads-film-festival is useless for notability (too sparse). Name-drop.
• We don't cite IMDb (no editorial oversight).
• https://www.media.mit.edu/events/media-lab-conversations-series-mark-bauman/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Event programme.
• https://www.darwinfoundation.org/en/about/our-people2/board-of-directors/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject). He's on the BoD for the Darwin Foundation.
• https://www.asoc.org/about/our-team/#board is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Again, BoD.
• https://conservefish.org/news/marine-fish-conservation-network-welcomes-tom-sadler-new-deputy-director-mark-bauman-board-directors-member/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject, no editorial oversight). Press release from an organisation he was joining.
• https://voicesforbiodiversity.org/about/advisory-board is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Advisory board listing.
• We can't use https://wyse.gmu.edu/ (website homepage).
• https://mediaschool.indiana.edu/news-events/news/item.html?n=media-school-visiting-professors-include-award-winning-media-executive-and-npr-tv-critic is useless for notability (connexion to subject). News from a university who's bringing him on as a guest professor.
• https://www.cmu.edu/homepage/creativity/2010/fall/gigapixel-show.shtml is useless for notability (too sparse, connexion to subject). Name-drop in an article about an event CMU is holding.
• We can't use either YouTube source (unknown provenance). YouTube videos must be (1) produced by an outlet we would consider to be a reliable source and (2) uploaded to that outlet's verified channel to be linked to, let alone cited.
• https://thepearsoninstitute.org/globalforum2022 is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Expo held by an organisation he's on the BoD of, and where he was scheduled to speak.
• We can't use https://www.erskine.edu/2023/02/07/stukes-lecture-set-for-march-1/ (unknown provenance). No byline; who wrote this? (If this is a press release, it's useless for notability (no editorial oversight).)
• https://www.iinteract.org/about-us is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Advisory board listing.
• https://www.wliw.org/about/awards/ is a non-sequitur.
• https://crossingborders.education/people/mark-bauman/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject). Advisory board listing.

None of the sources I can assess are any good. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 17:33, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  Well, here's a link for the NY Times article, it isn't about the person discussed here, mostly about the Grid website [1] Oaktree b (talk) 23:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - coverage is from primary sources, IMDB or passing mentions. Hkkingg (talk) 19:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've already made many edits based on reviews and thought it was ready for mainspace. Can someone please help me redraft this article to meet Wikipedia standards? Terry Phillips (talk) 20:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you find much better sources, any effort at redrafting would be futile. We're looking for in-depth, non-routine, independent-of-Bauman news/scholarly sources that discuss him at length, are written by identifiable authors, and subjected to rigourous editorial oversight and fact-checking. Without those, the subject cannot hope to meet WP:N or WP:BLP. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 21:08, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Baalveer 3[edit]

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The series might be notable but not the seasons. None of the seasons is found passing WP:GNG. At present, Ref 1 is about the actor (Dev Joshi), Ref 2 covers trivial, Ref 3 redirects to Mid-Day about actors, Ref 4 is announcement and interview, Ref 5 is interview, Ref 6 is same as 5, Ref 7 press release, Ref 8 is interview about the actors. Twinkle1990 (talk) 14:55, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Either Keep or Redirect to the 1st season/Main article. If the series/1st season is notable, let's consider this a detailed article about one of the 4 seasons of a notable production. Would thus seem acceptable to me, cf. WP:SIZESPLIT. Coverage is not great but is abundant (a lot of Tellychakkar or Zoom TV articles) or things like: https://www.fridayrelease.com/tv-news-adda/baalveer-season-3-here-are-the-top-5-reasons-to-watch-this-enthralling-sony-sab-show ; it allows verification, though. (Season 4 just started and was also taken to Afd).-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:23, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Tellychakkar is not a reliable source as per WP:ICTFSOURCES. The ZoomTv and Fridayrelease are similar level sites to Tellychakkar or Bollywoodlife, these sources are looking unreliable to me and can’t establish notability. GrabUp - Talk 18:34, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Maybe, sure; if size is not an issue, redirect and merge it then.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: No in-depth coverage from multiple independent reliable sources was found. The series can be notable, but we should not create articles for every season unless there is multiple in-depth coverage from secondary sources, excluding interviews. The article also fails to meet WP:GNG and is similar to the article Baalveer 4. GrabUp - Talk 18:29, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. The sources do not have the quality and depth of coverage needed to warrant a page on this show. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 13:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Added multiple refs so it can pass notability. M S Hassan (talk) 20:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I checked every source that you added. It includes The Times of India, which can’t establish notability, known for its promitional content per WP:TOI. It includes a video from Times Nowthat also can’t establish notability. It includes an ABP Hindi source, which is an interview-type article, just the sayings of the actor Dev, with no in-depth coverage of season 3. Other sources are ZoomTV, which are similar to sources like Tellychakkar or Bollywoodlife. I don’t think these are reliable and can establish notability. GrabUp - Talk 02:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  There are sources not only about Dev Joshi but also about other cast. M S Hassan (talk) 16:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That really don’t make this season notable. GrabUp - Talk 16:32, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Riksundar Banerjee[edit]

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Failing all criteria of WP:NBIO, publishing articles and non notable books not fulfils WP:GNG Pinakpani (talk) 08:08, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: The subject fails to meet WP:GNG as there is no in-depth coverage from independent, reliable secondary sources. However, the subject's book titled "The Book of India Ghosts" may meet WP:AUTHOR criterion number 3, which requires multiple reviews of books to establish notability. There are two reviews available for that particular book, one from The Hindu and one from The Hindu BusinessLine. Both reviews are from different publications and authors. GrabUp - Talk 18:20, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Fails WP:BIO, WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. The author's work has not made a significant monument, or won significant critical attention. One of his book "The book of India Ghosts", got a review from hindu.com but this cannot be considered the criteria needed to pass WP:AUTHOR because the work needs to be widely cited by peers or successors. RangersRus (talk) 15:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @RangersRus: WP:AUTHOR’s third criterion states: “The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.” There are two reviews from The Hindu and The Hindu BusinessLine from different authors. I think this is sufficient to meet the third criteria, as multiple reviews from independent sources are available. There are other criteria, but if a subject meets any of them, then it can be presumed to be notable. GrabUp - Talk 15:35, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joshua Tomar[edit]

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Does not meet WP:CREATIVE and the sources appear to be mostly self-published, not reliable, or passing mentions Jayjg ^(talk) 18:58, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep

The nomination for deletion is inaccurate. The appropriate category is WP:ENT, not Creative. Subject meets inclusion standards by a comfortable margin. He has appeared in a notable amount of high profile video games and shows and has working relationships with a notable amount of prominent people within his industry. He also co-owns an animation studio which has been involved with many major projects. He has received an award relevant to his industry that is only given to one person per year. He is a longtime member on a well-established and influential youtube channel.

Many of the acting credits are verified through the IMDB citation, which Wikipedia lists as an acceptable source. His roles are also verified through other databases, as well as specific citations on particular roles, which is why there are citations of passing mentions of him with regard to specific roles.

The article should be kept as the subject qualifies under WP:ENT and the overall sourcing is acceptable; if there are issues with individual sources that could be handled in Talk or through the removal or addition of sources instead of a page deletion. KEP95 (talk) 04:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  Delete: Sources don't show notability. I would say redirect to Studio Yotta, but that doesn't look notable either. IgelRM (talk) 15:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:ENTERTAINER, no significant roles in any major productions. "Member of the Year Tanky Award" is not a notable award. Also unlike the user said above, IMDB is not an acceptable source in Wikipedia, see WP:IMDB. --Mika1h (talk) 07:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Ling[edit]

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British actor who does not pass WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. BEFORE search turns up no additional references whatsoever in reliable sources. Birth and death information come from IMDb, which is WP:USERGENERATED and thus unreliable. Setting aside IMDb, all we know is that he existed and had minor roles in six films. (The BFI database includes references to his name and roles, but no significant coverage.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Rik Amrit[edit]

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The article lacks significant coverage in third-party reliable sources. The currently cited sources are either passing mentions or unreliable, and a search in Google News did not yield anything useful. GSS ^💬 05:47, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete, although there are number of sources cited, but these are apparently unreliable, could not established the notability as per WP:NBIO. Pinakpani (talk) 06:15, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, non-notable. Ahmed Reza Khan (talk) 08:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: As per my check, I looked for in-depth coverage from multiple independent secondary sources but couldn’t find any. The sources are just passing mentions or unreliable. Therefore, the article fails WP:GNG. GrabUp - Talk 12:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete. Subject fails WP:BIO with poor sources. Page fails WP:GNG. Subject is not well known who made any significant achievement worthy of notice to warrant a Wikipedia page on. RangersRus (talk) 12:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Timothy Redwine[edit]

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Current sources don't show sufficient notability to pass WP:GNG and film/tv credits don't pass WP:NACTOR. A WP:BEFORE search didn't bring up in-depth sources which showed notability. Suonii180 (talk) 16:34, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Salman Muqtadir[edit]

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Sources are trivial (included in a list of other youtubers) and non-independent. One significant coverage is about his investigation by the police. No other significant independent secondary source covering his popularity as a content creator. - AlbeitPK (talk) 01:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Most of the sources cover the police investigating him. That is not enough to satisfy WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 17:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neil Fitzwiliam[edit]

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No significant coverage and not enough major roles. SL93 (talk) 00:39, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Trey Farley[edit]

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No significant coverage. Non-notable broadcaster. SL93 (talk) 18:30, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• ATD: redirect to Live & Kicking, which covers his tenure on the show as well as his personal life (more so than Katy Hill, which is another possible redirect target). Geschichte (talk) 03:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:30, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Baláž (boxer)[edit]

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With only primary sources listed, this article clearly fails WP:NBOX and WP:GNG. My Google searches came up with Peter Baláž (Esperantist) and a motorcycle driver, both of which are Slovak, but nothing about a boxer with the same birth name. I can't see this article lasting longer-term on Wikipedia. Clara A. Djalim (talk) 09:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete no medal means no notability under WP:NSPORT. Can't find any secondary coverage via a search. BrigadierG (talk) 10:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, subject was the starring role in a movie about himself (Goat (2015 film)), and his involvement was covered by such outlets as The Hollywood Reporter[2]. I'm thankful for the nomination because it gives us a chance to improve the article, although I think the nominator did not do WP:BEFORE by looking up the actor's name with the movie's name (Koza) and addressing those sources. --Habst (talk) 12:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I AM the nominator. Sure, not everyone has the same Google search results. Clara A. Djalim (talk) 10:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, per the excellent find by Habst. A movie about the subject! BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:02, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Just to be clear, the movie is fiction, about a fictional Olympic champion. This article is about a fighter who badly lost his only Olympic fight in the round of 32. Boxrec shows he won 3 of his 57 pro fights.[3] He's not notable as a boxer, but feel free to debate his notability as an actor. Papaursa (talk) 04:06, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Milroy Goes[edit]

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This appears to be a non-notable filmmaker with no significant coverage in reliable third-party sources. He has directed several non-notable films, ad films, and music videos, including Welcome M1LL10NS, a non-theatrical release whose notability is questionable. The currently cited sources offer nothing beyond passing mentions, and a Google News search yields no helpful results. This fails to meet the criteria of WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. GSS ^💬 04:35, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Based on my check, I found no in-depth coverage from multiple independent and reliable secondary sources. This means the subject completely fails to meet WP:GNG. The majority of the sources are around his films. GrabUp - Talk 05:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Significant coverage in independent (although some articles include interviews), reliable sources. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  (and if the majority of sources is considered to be around his films (not sure that can be said, but let's assume it is the case, it means that the films may be considered notable, so that he would meet WP:DIRECTOR). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:54, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I don’t think the article about his film meets WP:GNG as it requires in-depth coverage from multiple sources. The cited sources seem unreliable to me or are full of quotations from connected individuals. It fails WP:NFILM as no reviews were found and WP:NFO because the film only received coverage at the time of its release. To pass, it requires “publication of at least two non-trivial articles, at least five years after the film’s initial release.” I can nominate that article anytime soon. GrabUp - Talk 09:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Mushy Yank, could you point out sources that provide "significant coverage"? WP:SIGCOV requires coverage that "addresses the topic directly and in detail." Unfortunately, as mentioned earlier, almost all the sources are merely name drops. Additionally, I agree with Grabup that the film they directed appears to be non-notable as it lacks the coverage required by WP:GNG and shows no evidence of notability under WP:NFILM.

  Regarding your claim of meeting WP:NDIRECTOR, it is weak for two reasons: first, the film is likely not notable, and second, there is no coverage that discusses the subject in detail. WP:BIOSPECIAL states that "If neither a satisfying explanation nor appropriate sources can be found for a standalone article, but the person meets one or more of the additional criteria: Merge the article into a broader article providing context." However, this is likely not possible due to the weak notability of the film. GSS ^💬 09:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  At random, for example:

  Perhaps the film producer with the most interesting experience is Milroy Goes whose film Welcome Millions is being shown on Amazon Prime in Europe and America after being dubbed in the local language. It is expected to be available for viewership in India shortly. Made in three languages and shot in Goa, Punjab, and the UK, the movie was meant to have its premiere at the IFFI 2019 but was turned down because it had been one of two Indian film selected by the Oscar committee. (https://www.heraldgoa.in/Cafe/It’s-time-to-go-‘Over-the-Top’-for-Konkani-cinema/161417)

  In 2012, director Milroy Goes brought about a whole new change in Konkani cinema by introducing his digital theatrical film, (as was mentioned in the Afd about The Victim) (https://www.heraldgoa.in/Cafe/Good-days-ahead-for-Goan-cinema/108329)

  Pervis Milroy Goes, known better as Milroy Goes is an Indian film director from Goa. He hails from the beautiful village of Cuncolim in South Goa. He ventured into the Film Industry in 2007 with his first short film “Vengeance”. Milroy gained a lot of recognition as a film director soon after the release of his second short film “Unexpected” in 2009. Milroy was mentored by a French film enthusiast named Anthony Coombs-Humphreys, who not only believed in Milroy’s potential as a filmmaker but also assisted him in producing a remake of his short film “Unexpected” for the international audience. The movie, which was titled “Expect the Unexpected”, featured a Bollywood actor named Deepraj Rana. The movie was released in 2011 and received very good reviews. Milroy Goes’ film “Welcome Millions”, which was released in 2018, was eligible for the Best Picture Award in the General Entry category at the 91st Academy Awards (Oscars) in 2019, but was not nominated. Milroy Goes is credited with being the person to introduce digital cinema in Goa with his debut theatrical film “The Victim” (2012).Besides filmmaking, Milroy Goes also has various other business ventures including a coffee shop, an artist management firm and a Portuguese passport consultancy firm. (It's Goa)

  These are just examples, it's +- short but significant imv, and there are many of those. If really everyone agrees this is not enough, nor for the film(s) nor for him, may I suggest a redirect for all of them to Konkani cinema (another guideline might apply if one considers the regional scope), that might help add prose to the page, which is very listy. I'm not that interested in this filmmaker, to be honest, and will probably leave it at that (I am not watching this), Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:21, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I don’t think Heraldgoa’s covarage can establish notability. And Itsgoa is a self-proclaimed blog based site according to their about us page. As it says “ ItsGoa was started in 2015, with the aim of becoming the premier portal for all things Goa. Today with thousands of visitors a month from across the world, our blog based website has transcended the virtual space, with the ItsGoa magazine – a sought after resource for visitors to Goa.” GrabUp - Talk 11:29, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  It's Goa: A blog, yes, technically, but not a personal one and that is what matters (WP:EXPERTSPS). As for O Heraldo, not sure what you mean, but it's one of the (if not the, in English) main newspapers in Goa!! Again, a redirect to Konkani cinema might be considered. Really no time to make any further comments, sorry. Decide what you think is best. Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  It's Goa is not only a blog, but the article you mentioned above is an interview, and such articles are not accepted for establishing notability. Additionally, there is no evidence of who runs that blog or their background, nor are there details on their editorial policies. Such sources fall under WP:QUESTIONABLE. The section "The Folks Behind The Jokes" on their about us page states, "Our writers come from all walks of life, and through our social media handles," confirming that they lack real editorial control. They also encourage people to send in their stories and experiences, share their events and happenings, or create discussions around the articles they post, further undermining their reliability. The other two sources you mentioned are just passing mentions and are not even close to WP:INDEPTH. GSS ^💬 12:10, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: I don't even think redirection would help, almost TOOSOON. If his film was eligible for the Academy nomination, but didn't make the cut, it could represent the start of the notability journey, but nothing yet. Sources as explained above aren't helpful Oaktree b (talk) 12:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Although the film came out in 2018, it's had enough time to get critical coverage; that nothing has been found in the last 5+ years is proof of non-notability for this person, likely also for the film. Oaktree b (talk) 14:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lori Wells[edit]

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I have been unable to find sources to meet WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. The single source cited in the article is a Wordpress blog. She doesn't seem to me to meet WP:NACTOR either; Coronation Street is a notable show but her role in it was not significant, Kisses at Fifty is one episode of an anthology drama. Overall, she doesn't seem to meet notability requirements. Chocmilk03 (talk) 04:14, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete While she does have a Wikipedia page, most of her roles seem to be minor, except Get Some In! in which she has acted in 21 episodes, but as a minor role. She doesn't meet the notability criterion. Wikilover3509 (talk) 08:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Kisses at Fifty was a one-off TV play, but an important one, where she had an important role. It was one of the best-known plays in Play for Today, and the BBC repeated it quite recently. Here role in Get Some In! wasn't that minor, she appears in the list of characters, and in the box at the start (and I did not put her there). PatGallacher (talk) 14:20, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: seems to pass WP:NACTOR for 2 significant roles in notable productions. More sources wouldn't hurt. I would have suggested a redirect to Kisses at Fifty, but her role in Get Some In! is also rather significant. Worst case scenario, that might be a solution, though. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vladlena Sandu[edit]

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A screenwriter and theater director who has directed some non-notable films and documentaries fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:FILMMAKER. There is no significant coverage in third-party reliable sources. Almost all currently cited sources are interviews, with a few being unreliable or merely passing mentions. GSS ^💬 15:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dan Hennessey[edit]

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Lacking of citations and General Notability Bennyaha (talk) 04:04, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. As always, the notability test for actors is not automatically passed just because the article contains a list of roles sourced to IMDb or an IMDb-like directory — it requires passing WP:GNG on reliable source coverage about him and his work in media and/or books, of which there's absolutely none shown here. Bearcat (talk) 15:03, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment from article creator (before we hit this AFD's normal deadline): This is one of several artifacts from the time I focused on Care Bears content (as a fan back then; my kidvid interests have long since shifted). Hennessey was the voice of Brave Heart Lion, a Care Bear Cousin. ("Charge!")

As for viable sources, this starting point might not amount to enough, but this is the most in-depth writeup I could find. From here, it's up to the S.S. Cunard (talk · contribs) and others of interest to find a few more out there someplace.

• Zekas, Rita (1990-06-03). "Dan Hennessey -- Care Bears". The Toronto Star Video & Home Entertainment. p. 19. Retrieved 2024-05-23 – via Newspapers.com.

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Memoona Qudoos[edit]

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At first glance, the actor appears to be well-known with numerous roles in television serials, films, and what not. However, upon closer inspection, it becomes evident that the subject only had minor roles in the majority of those television serials and films, thus failing to meet NACTOR. Anyone wishing to argue based on GNG must provide THREE, i repeat, THREE of the best coverages in RS -only. ROTM coverage like this, this and even INTERVIEWS like this is not enough to meet GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 20:26, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: She is notable. In this source her education and how she started is all mentioned [4] and her married life source in this [5].(BeauSuzanne (talk) 07:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC))[reply]
  • BeauSuzanne, Your comments sound WP:ATA. These coverages can be used for WP:V, but they're not enough to establish WP:GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I am not talking about WP:V. I am saying that it meets WP:NACTOR. It has mentioned her drama roles and her recent role of Shehna.(BeauSuzanne (talk) 19:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC))[reply]
      • BeauSuzanne, Could you provide evidence that the subject had major roles? —Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Weak keep because the interviews in rather reliable sources have a presentation that might show her roles are signficant. If not why not DRAFITY until better sources are found, so as to avoid the risk of constant recreations/deletion and mutual frustration?-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mushy Yank, Roznama92News isn't even a RS. It's just one of the countless Urdu language newspapers circulated in Pakistan. And I wouldn't outright label the interview in The News as a paid placement since I lack evidence, but considering the nature of the questions posed by the interviewer, it's a plausible possibility. Anyhow, I'm fine with DRAFITIFICATION, though. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 14:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gianni Mammolotti[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:NCREATIVE. No in-depth coverage. Can't find anything about him online except an IMDB page. Clearfrienda ^💬 21:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: Various awards and nominations for Best cinematographer. (https://www.inventaunfilm.it/sei-premi-in-cerca-d-autore-2021-autore-dell-anno-gianni-mammolotti/articoli16539 ; http://www.ilquotidiano.it/articoli/2005/09/25/44313/assegnati-i-4-esposimetri-doro-per-il-premio-gianni-di-venanzo ; https://www.daviddidonatello.it/motore-di-ricerca/cercavincitori2.php?idsoggetto=1679&vin= ; https://www.sherlockmagazine.it/index.php/2942/l-aquila-una-citta-in-nero) May meet WP:ANYBIO. ("The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times") -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC) (edited as there is only 1 Donatello nomination I can verify not more, although the Italian WP mentions 2 (which is not >2) but he has received other awards)[reply]

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Agha Mustafa Hassan[edit]

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At first glance, the actor appears to be well-known with numerous roles in television serials, films, and what not. However, upon closer inspection, it becomes evident that the subject only had minor roles in the majority of those television serials and films, thus failing to meet NACTOR. Anyone wishing to argue based on GNG must provide THREE, i repeat, THREE of the best coverages in RS -only. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Nominator is harassing me by calling me UPE/sock on numerous platforms without any single evidence and nominating all articles created/edited by me despite meeting criteria. As for this AFD, he is clearly meeting WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. I am presenting some sources from reliable newspapers for proving my point.

• Daily Times [6]

• Eastern Eye [7]

• Daily Times [8]

• Daily Pakistan [9]

• DAWN News [10]

• DAWN News [11]

• Daily Times

• Dawn Images [12]

• The News International [13] Libraa2019 (talk) 20:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Libraa2019, Can you please provide WP:THREE best coverage that you believe is sufficient to meet GNG ? —Saqib (talk I contribs) 23:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • You can self choose three best coverage from the ones i mentioned above as they all are best sources and are sufficient to meet GNG. Libraa2019 (talk) 02:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Libraa2019, It's up to you to provide the THREE best coverage that you believe should be good enough to meet GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • All of them are best coverage. These sources are covering this actor in-depth. i presented more than what you have asked. Daily Times, Dawn News, Daily Pakistan, all of them are reliable and authentic newspapers & These sources are available in B, C and Good rated Pakistani articles.. Libraa2019 (talk) 13:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • Libraa2019, Either you're not willing to grasp my point or perhaps simply refuse to WP:LISTEN. Is it a strategy to simply ignore, hoping the AfD will close with no consensus? —Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            • Such things applied to you. In personal disagreements you've gone too far. Editors have told you on other AFD's that i presented more than what you asked [14] [15] [16] [17] but you have decided not to listen any. I said it personal because you are Labelling every authentic source as unreliable, every role as minor and hoping to delete articles despite of these articles meeting criteria. Libraa2019 (talk) 23:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I am providing some other reliable sources which i found during research.

• Geo News [18]

• Daily Aaj [19]

• Bol News [20] [21] Libraa2019 (talk) 17:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Offering numerous sources won't necessarily strengthen the argument. Can you provide THREE excellent sources instead? —Saqib (talk I contribs) 17:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The history at mutiple AFD's indicates that i provide authentic sources and you reject so please leave some things to others. Libraa2019 (talk) 17:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  And you mentioned at Imaam Mazari's AFD that Coverage doesn't always have to be in-depth [22] but contineously asking me to provide in-depth coverage. Still i presented multiple reliable sources with in-depth coverage. Libraa2019 (talk) 17:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: WP:NACTOR seems met, with various significant roles (although not lead) in notable productions. (Also, WP:THREE is an WP:Essay.) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:23, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Sources are casting announcements or interviews/based on what he says and one of the sources used in the article does not mention him. A few of the sources do mention his role in Tere Bin (2022 TV series) but it's trivial coverage and only one role. In order to meet WP:NACTOR it has to be shown his roles in multiple notable productions were significant which is proven through sources that have written about him/his roles which is lacking here. S0091 (talk) 15:01, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sir its consequently third time where Saqib nominated my creation in retaliation & you voted delete. I am unable to satisfy you despite providing multiple authentic sources which are covering him in-depth. Sources are not only interviews like Daily Times states, Agha Mustafa Hassan has no doubt made his mark in the industry. The young actor and model has been winning the hearts of people since 2016 due to his exceptional acting skills. Dawn News wrote, Agha Mustafa Hasan made his acting debut with the 2016 popular drama 'Sang e Mar Mar', after which he showed his acting chops in several popular dramas and theaters as well as films. He has played supporting roles in dramas including Pinjara, Neeli Zinda Hai, More Siyan, Mere Own, Run, Silla Mohabbate, Sar Rah and Tere Bin. Eastern Eye said Acclaimed Pakistani actor Agha Mustafa Hassan started off his career in theatre and then made a winning transition to television with popular drama serials like Sila-e-Mohabbat, Dour, Neeli Zinda Hai, Kahin Deep Jaley and Mehboob Aapke Qadmon Main. The versatile performer continues to take on new challenges on-screen, but also has a close connection to good content as an audience member, And the rest of the sources also covering him significantly. Libraa2019 (talk) 16:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Libraa2019 Thanks. Can you link to those articles and do you have another one that talks about his career? I'll take a look. S0091 (talk) 16:21, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Sure Sir, i will link that to article and thats the only issue, the BLP needs references and Should be tagged for "Additional Citations". It does'nt mean we just delete it despite multiple coverage on google. I have mentioned many sources in this AFD, please review them and i will surely add them to BLP. And please dont read sources on this BLP as it was my initial days and some one else also added one fake source in which subject has no where mentioned, I will surely work into it. But due to this nomination, I have provided all the required sources in this AFD for evaluation. Libraa2019 (talk) 16:26, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Libraa2019 Like I said, I will take a look if you can link to the articles you are referencing. If they are listed above, please let me know which ones because there are more than one DT and Dawn listed. While I did look at all them, I may missed something. S0091 (talk) 16:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Respected S0091, as requested, attaching few sources. Daily Times [23], Eastern Eye [24], DAWN News [25], DAWN News [26] Libraa2019 (talk) 18:41, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The Daily Times has role by-line (Web Desk) and is a press release announcing he has been cast in Neeli Zinda Hai so is a primary source and not independent. Here is another article which is almost word-for-word the same. The Eastern Eye is also a role by-line and is list of Hassan's favourite 10 TV shows so primary with a brief introduction listing some of the shows he has acted in. The first Dawn is a role by-line (Entertainment Desk) and based on an interview so primary. It lists some of the shows he has acted in and does state His negative role in Tere Bin, Malik Zubair, was well received but doesn't state by whom. The second Dawn is about what he said during his appearance on Sama TV's morning show so primary and also lists shows he has acted in and states His negative role in 'Tere Bin', Malik Zubair, was highly appreciated. I note that the two Dawn's were published years apart, one in 2021 and one in 2023 and the portion that talks about is career is almost word-for-word the same (what you quoted above) which suggests it is a standard a blurb. None of these demonstrate the significance of his roles outside of maybe Tere Bin but even those are trivial mentions. S0091 (talk) 16:02, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    All of them are not primary, i am doubting your assessment and if they are primary then what exactly are the secondary sources. Also you can check this sources too DAWN News [27], Dawn Images [28], The News International [29], Geo News [30],Daily Aaj [31], Bol News [32] [33] Libraa2019 (talk) 16:30, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    See PSTS. Primary sources can be used sparingly but do not establish notability. Analysis of his work/life would be secondary but press releases, interviews/what he says are primary. I will find some examples and share them with you on your talk page. As for these additional sources, one is the same Dawn from above and the other two are mentions in a list of cast members. S0091 (talk) 17:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Libraa2019, Please do not cite BOL News in future discussions as it is a WP:DEPREC. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 12:41, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Saqib it is not deprecated as that requires a formal RFC at RSN but it is unreliable (WP:GUNREL). S0091 (talk) 14:51, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Farhan Ahmed Malhi[edit]

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This actor-cum-model does not meets WP:ACTOR as I am unable verify their "major roles" in TV shows as require by WP:ACTOR - nor does their coverage satisfy the basic WP:GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 20:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: He is a well known actor. His roles in dramas has received coverage. His education and how he started his career is mentioned.[34][35][36](BeauSuzanne (talk) 07:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC))[reply]
  • BeauSuzanne, Your comments sound like WP:ATA. These coverages can be used for WP:V, but they're not enough to establish WP:GNG. Can you provide WP:THREE best coverage that you believe is sufficient to meet GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• I'm not talking about Wp:V. I am saying that three souces meets WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG plus his dramas are also written in it.(BeauSuzanne (talk) 19:15, 16 May 2024 (UTC))[reply]
  • BeauSuzanne, As the creator of this BLP, you were supposed to provide three best coverage in order to meet GNG. Unfortunately, you haven't done that. The coverage is mostly interviews, which aren't independent of the subject. Such coverage cannot be used to establish GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:32, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: some of his roles (in the main cast) of notable productions appear to have him meet WP:NACTOR, which is the applicable guideline. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amna Malik[edit]

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On the fact of it, she appeared in multiple TV shows but she fails to have 'significant role' in them therefore do no meet WP:ACTOR . BTW, this was deleted back in 2020. The creator BeauSuzanne (talk · contribs) wasn't only able to recreate it but they also did their best to conceal the previous deletion discussion, which speaks volumes about their dubious editing nature. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 20:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: She is a notable actress. She hasn't done main roles but she has done supporting roles in dramas and her recent work in Mayi was noted[37]. In these she mentioned how she switched from teacher to host and then acting.[38] Her peronal life.[39](BeauSuzanne (talk) 07:50, 16 May 2024 (UTC))[reply]
  • BeauSuzanne, Supporting roles are not enough to meet WP:NACTOR and the coverages you provided can be used for WP:V, but they're not enough to establish WP:GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:48, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • It meets WP:Nactor some sources are written this way from interviews before that I did my search on the sources it's reliable from ARY News, Images Dawn and BOL News it's both in English and Urdu.(BeauSuzanne (talk) 19:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC))[reply]
      • BeauSuzanne, You've to see WP:ATA. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:35, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete it with fire. Allan Nonymous (talk) 15:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Looking at her last few roles in shows with articles, none are significant (not starring or lead support) so she does not meet WP:NACTOR. Sources are interviews, do not mention her and many are not reliable such as The Brown Identity, Something Haute, FUCHSIA Magazine, Masala.com, Dispatch News Desk, etc. S0091 (talk) 15:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: I find convincing BeauSuzanne's explanation; some of her roles do seem significant enough and she seems to meet WP:NACTOR indeed. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:01, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Sure, her recent work was "noted" in source 20, but it's a series of photos with maybe 10 lines of text. The rest aren't in RS... Most I can find are interviews or the type of celebrity gossip articles that don't help notability. Oaktree b (talk) 23:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aamna Malick[edit]

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This actress does not fulfill the criteria WP:ACTOR as I couldn't find any major roles in TV shows NOR does their coverage satisfy the basic WP:GNG. A significant portion of the sources referenced lack reliability . —Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:26, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep- per WP:BASIC, [40],[41],[42]

[43], [44] Otbest (talk) 18:07, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Otbest, I'm curious how a user who just began editing 2 days ago is already participating in AfDs. BTW, the references you provided aren't even RS. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment sourcing seems to be weak (mainly tabloids), but it looks like she may have some notable television credits?-KH-1 (talk) 01:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • KH-1, No. Only minor roles. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: some of her numerous roles in notable productions look significant enough for her to pass WP:NACTOR -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uzma Beg[edit]

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So at first glance, this BLP looks legit but upon but digging deeper, I couldn't find any major roles in TV shows or movies as required per WP:ACTOR. Also, when I tried to find more about the subject per WP:BEFORE, I didn't come across enough coverage to meet WP:GNG either. Plus, it's worth noting that this BLP was created back in 2021 by a SPA Sahgalji (talk · contribs) and has been mostly edited by UPEs so there's COI issues as well. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: some of her roles in notable productions seem significant enough, so that she meets WP:NACTOR imv and deletion is not necessary. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:44, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mushy Yank, In which shows, if I may ask? —Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:04, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For example, Chupke Chupke, Pyari Mona, Hum Tum.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC) (Again, sorry but so many Afds related to Pakistan/TV series, I might not reply here any further, should you, as I expect, not find the sources to your liking for one reason or another or if clarifications are needed; it was already challenging for me to find time to check some of them and !vote).[reply]

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Sukaina Khan[edit]

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The subject does not meet criteria outlined in the relevant WP:NACTOR as well basic WP:GNG. No evidence indicating significant roles in notable films, TV dramas, etc. Merely being in a film or TV drama does not make one WP:Inherent notability. Previously deleted via AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sukaina Khan —Saqib (talk | contribs) 16:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: Seems to meet WP:NACTOR with various significant roles in notable productions. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:26, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  But I was unable to verify if she had significant roles. As I said in my nom, merely being in a film or TV drama does not make one inherent notable. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 15:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Lead roles/Main cast in Tevar, Fasiq, Teri Berukhi,Fitna, to name just a few. merely being in a film or TV drama does not make one inherent notable. But nobody said that! SIGNIFICANT roles (lead or not, but in the present case, various lead roles). No further comment. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note The creator of this BLP has peculiar editing history. I've raised concerns about it on WP:ANI. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 17:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: She is notable actress and she started working as child actress in supporting roles. Now she does lead roles as well and she does modeling as well recently she is working drama Sultanat on Hum TV.(BeauSuzanne (talk) 06:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC))^[1][reply]

• I acknowledge that she is an actress and has appeared in TV dramas, which naturally garners some media coverage. However, this interview alone ( a primary source) is definitely not sufficient to establish that she had significant roles. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 08:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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*Keep as per My, oh my! (Mushy Yank).182.182.97.3 (talk) 15:44, 6 May 2024 (UTC) [reply]

• This is akin to WP:PERX —Saqib (talk | contribs) 18:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IP blocked. --—Saqib (talk I contribs) 21:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: BLP, fails GNG and NBIO. Sources in article and found in BEFORE fail WP:SIRS, nothing from neutral, independent, reliable sources addressing the subject directly and indepth. Found promo material, interviews, name mentions/listings, nothing that meets WP:SIGCOV. BLPs require strong sourcing.  // Timothy :: talk  12:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Given the complete lack of discussion since the 2nd relisting, this is less like a 3rd relisting (which, of course, it technically is) and more an extension of the 2nd listing. It would be good to have some other views because some of what has gone on so far seems a bit disruptive (not pointing fingers).
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• Delete: I will stipulate the subject exists, but I can't find sufficient sourcing to meet GNG, ANYBIO, or NACTOR. Keep assertions acquire the BURDEN of presenting RS (or at least proof of RS existing). Nothing applied or presented here puts us past this bar. BusterD (talk) 21:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep - The nominator mentioned in here that seriously popular Pakistani TV shows like Champions with Waqar Zaka, XPOSED, Living on the Edge (Sabse Himmat Wala Kon?), King of Street Magic, Desi Kudiyan, The Cricket Challenge and Video On Trial - just to name a few. Even though these shows might not have their own WP articles but they have definitely received coverage from various RS. She is winner of one of the shows mentioned by the nominator, "Desi Kuriyan". So rationale provided as "No evidence indicating significant roles in notable films, TV dramas, etc" in this WP:AfD doesn't makes sense when nominator accepted that show she won have received coverage from RS in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Waqar Zaka (3rd nomination).182.182.63.7 (talk) 19:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• • 182.182.63.7, OK but you still need to backup your claims with evidence from RS. First, prove that she won the show. Second, demonstrate that the show itself received sig/ in-depth coverage. Cheers! —Saqib (talk I contribs) 20:07, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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