May 12[edit]
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 12, 2024.
Champcar[edit]
- Champcar → Champ Car World Series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Champcars → Champ Car World Series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete as the redirect is ambiguous. Champ car is a type of racing car; Champ Car was a motorsport sanctioning body. In addition, the talk page for Champcars leads not to Champ Car World Series, but to Championship Auto Racing Teams. These were two separate organizations. RegalZ8790 (talk) 20:27, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retain. The CCWS was the successor via bankruptcy of CART. In fact, the "Champ Car World Series" name was used by CART as the name of the series it sanctioned for the last season before the bankruptcy filing by CART, purchase of its assets by a group of team owners and reorganization under the CCWS name. The first question is was the split of the article (it used to be one article at Champ Car before the separate CCWS article was split out and the other article moved to the CART name) really necessary? I'd lean yes because it's a logical point for a break under summary style, not necessarily because of the legal structures (there was much more continuity than break in operations).
- So the question then becomes which article is the best target for the "Champ Car" redirect (the redirects here are just alternate spellings and should point to the same place). Well, "Champ Car" was the common short name of the CCWS organization and likely primary meaning of the term. The general category of American open-wheel racing is most commonly known as IndyCar, but CART couldn't use that anymore after the Indy Racing League split (CART did use the name before, calling their series the IndyCar World Series prior to 1996) so they went with the more obscure Champ Car term after the split, but it didn't become part of the organization's name until the reorganization. As long as Champ Car redirects to the CCWS article, we should be consistent with spelling variations. oknazevad (talk) 23:35, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Does Wikipedia need the unused redirects? At what point do the spelling variations simply become misspellings? Champ car, Champ Car, Champ cars, and Champ Cars already exist as redirects, in addition to a plethora of others.
- But my point is that there is no obvious destination for the redirects I originally listed. They are grammatically incorrect, and could be taken by an editor to mean either a type of car, OR the sanctioning body. Using a small 'c' for car, they should probably direct to the AOWR page, but as one 'word' they are simply incorrect spellings, and I am questioning why they need to exist. RegalZ8790 (talk) 00:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- ChampCar and ChampCars also exist. Probably because IndyCar is properly written as one word prior editors assumed Champ Car was as well. WP:REDIRECTSARECHEAP, so there's no particular harm in having the non-CamelCase versions kept as well. oknazevad (talk) 20:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- The harm is that the redirects I have placed for discussion facilitate sloppy, ambiguous writing. RegalZ8790 (talk) 04:05, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- ChampCar and ChampCars also exist. Probably because IndyCar is properly written as one word prior editors assumed Champ Car was as well. WP:REDIRECTSARECHEAP, so there's no particular harm in having the non-CamelCase versions kept as well. oknazevad (talk) 20:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom due to ambiguous term. Okmrman (talk) 04:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Procedural, not properly tagged.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate aside from the cars that raced in the post CART/IRL split, and the series that they raced in, there is also the synonym with any sort of indycar, and any rear-engined open-wheeled open-cockpit single-seater. Thus there are enough terms. Disambiguate at champ car -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 04:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
F-Indy[edit]
- F-Indy → IndyCar (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Formula Indy → IndyCar Series (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Delete; besides being unused (because nobody calls Indy car racing by those terms), they are ambiguous, and could mean IndyCar, IndyCar Series, or American open-wheel car racing. RegalZ8790 (talk) 21:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom Okmrman (talk) 03:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Procedural, not properly tagged.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I've seen Euro-press call it Formula Indy, so it is a misnomer. {{R from incorrect name}} Such as [1] -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 04:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per European misconceptions on the name -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 04:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- What is the utility of a redirect that facilitates a misconception? RegalZ8790 (talk) 04:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- wP:RKEEP IT gets users where they want to go so is a viable {{R from search term}} -- we have these tags, so obviously, they are being used. -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 20:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- What is the utility of a redirect that facilitates a misconception? RegalZ8790 (talk) 04:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per European misconceptions on the name -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 04:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Big Valley Bash[edit]
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- Big Valley Bash → St. Charles, Iowa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention and literally get nothing when I search it up on Google. Likely Delete. Okmrman (talk) 21:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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Big Country Bash[edit]
- Big Country Bash → St. Charles, Iowa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention Okmrman (talk) 21:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I've added a mention. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Emerald Music Festival[edit]
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- Emerald Music Festival → Lennox and Addington County (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention Okmrman (talk) 21:53, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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Real Country (U.S. TV Series)[edit]
- Real Country (U.S. TV Series) → USA Network (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention. Okmrman (talk) 21:52, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to List of programs broadcast by USA Network, where it is mentioned. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:59, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Lost Trail Hot Springs Montana[edit]
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- Lost Trail Hot Springs Montana → Lost Trail Pass (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned Okmrman (talk) 21:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete it's a resort
- Tbennert (talk) 22:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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I lol'd[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was keep the redirect and revdel the offending revisions. Complex/Rational 22:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Have no problem with current target but this was created by a vandalism account who redirected it to The Holocaust. Okmrman (talk) 21:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - Okmrman, I apologise in advance if I am missing anything here, and I don't intend this to come across in a negative way, but - if you don't object to the redirect's current target - would you mind expanding on the reason for nominating it at RfD/what action you would like RfD to take with the redirect as it currently exists? Judging by your comment here, it seems that you may be concerned that someone could revert the redirect back to its previous target (please correct me if I'm wrong, though) - are you proposing that those elements of the history be revision-deleted? I apologise if I've worded any of this poorly, and please let me know if I have. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 22:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Even if it clearly doesn't fall under G3 nor G5, and probably this redirect wasn't worth doing this, since we're here I support either revdel the offending revisions or if not possible, deleteing and recreating (as a note, I don't think the ability for someone to revert to an earlier version matters much since anyone can make new problematic versions. But there's no reason to publicly show this history.) Skynxnex (talk) 01:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think this is the right venue for this discussion, WP:ANI would probably have been the better option. But since we're here, (WP:IAR) I'd support a revdel for the offending revision. Fieari (talk) 05:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Revdel and keep the current target. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 11:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
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Pittville, California[edit]
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- Pittville, California → Pit River (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Possible WP:REDYES? Pittville is mentioned in the page but as a WP:SELFRED Okmrman (talk) 20:31, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. I'm not sure this place is notable enough for an article, but the current target is not helpful. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:55, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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Fortitude Music Hall[edit]
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No mention. Okmrman (talk) 20:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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Lake Red Bluff Recreation Area[edit]
- Lake Red Bluff Recreation Area → Sacramento River (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention. Okmrman (talk) 20:26, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Mendocino National Forest, where it is mentioned. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Moondance Country Fest[edit]
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- Moondance Country Fest → Cass County, Minnesota (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention. Okmrman (talk) 20:26, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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List of film accents considered the worst[edit]
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- List of film accents considered the worst → English-language accents in film (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- List of film accents considered the best → English-language accents in film (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
There is no information that I can see at the target regarding film accents considered the worst or best - just a general page regarding English-language accents in film. These redirects may therefore be confusing to readers using them, who would expect to find such information at the destination article. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 18:52, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Not linked anywhere in mainspace, and the AfD was closed as delete, although it should be noted that the closer was open to a future redirect to English-language accents in film (which at the time was still in draftspace). Either way, there is no need to keep misleading redirects around today, especially since there is no such subjective list anywhere in the article. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as too long and not plausible search terms now that it has been years after these lists' existence. The accent article can highlight good/bad/best/worst instances, and it looks like searching worst film accent in Wikipedia will bring up the accent article in search results anyway. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 14:29, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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Face cancer[edit]
- Face cancer → Devil facial tumour disease (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
John Campbell died of facial cancer according to the article on him. So "face cancer" or "facial cancer" is not limited to Tasmanian devils. Alfa-ketosav (talk) 17:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Weak retarget to Head and neck cancer. Seems to be the closest target for this term although I usually get skin cancer among the top hits in my Google search. I'm also fine with deletion if we cannot find an agreement with each other. --Lenticel (talk) 05:39, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate between the different cancers (in both humans and Tasmanian devils) that have been referred to as "face cancer" or "facial cancer". Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
90scars[edit]
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Searching it up, I just get 90s cars. I think 9Oscars would be a much more reasonable stylization. Okmrman (talk) 15:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep is is a likely interpretation of the stylization used in the logo, as shown in the image in the article. And 0/O substitutions are not unlikely when typing or talking. -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 04:26, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment the proposed alternative stylization should also be created as redirect -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 04:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep plausible way of reading the logo. Skynxnex (talk) 19:01, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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Reee[edit]
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No mention of this meme in that article. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 12:52, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, while the expression is indeed associated with Pepe screaming, it is not mentioned, and has also been used in a derogatory way against autistic people outside of Pepe the Frog contexts. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:40, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, we are not a indiscriminate collection of 4chan memes. --Lenticel (talk) 00:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I'll note re:Chaotic Enby that I'm fairly certain that *in* the Pepe the Frog contexts, this was still being used in a derogatory way against autistic people. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Core i2[edit]
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This may not be a good redirect because if a reader typed in "Core i2", while there is a chance they may be thinking of Intel Core 2, it is also possible that they mistyped in Core i3. There's a bit of ambiguity here. — AP 499D25 (talk) 08:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep as redirect from expected mistake. As Intel named their later processors i3, i5, i7, i9, readers might be thinking the previous one was also called "i2", which is more likely than typing the wrong number. The hatnote makes it clear that there isn't an actual "Core i2" and that the "i" designation came later. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:36, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Chaotic. There are several Core i<number> articles, not just i3. Jay 💬 09:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Grooving[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was no consensus. Given that OP was blocked for disruptive editing and no other editors have commented, I see no basis for continuing this discussion or concluding anything based on it. signed, Rosguill talk 17:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Was a redirect to Groove and then became a redirect to Groovin'. I changed to a wikit redirect. I don't know if Groovin' is the best target since when I search it up, I just get the dictionary definitions. Thought about redirecting it to Dancing but there are a lot of different meanings for grooving. Okmrman (talk) 03:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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Yelping[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Yelp (disambiguation). signed, Rosguill talk 17:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Was a redirect to Yelp but I just changed it to a wikit redirect. I feel like a better target would be screaming Okmrman (talk) 03:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Yelp (disambiguation) as an {{r from verb}}. Unlike the proper noun, I think the verb lacks a primary topic, and could easily refer to several items on the disambiguation page. Internal links should be prioritized over interwiki links, and we don't want Wiktionary redirects for common words, anyhow. - Eureka Lott 23:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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Shaky Boots Festival[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Shaky Knees Music Festival#Shaky Boots Music Festival. signed, Rosguill talk 17:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Shaky Boots Festival → Central Park (Atlanta) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Shaky Knees and Shaky Beats but no mention of Shaky Boots Okmrman (talk) 03:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget Shaky Knees Music Festival#Shaky Boots Music Festival. Jay 💬 08:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Ottertail River[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Otter Tail River. signed, Rosguill talk 17:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ottertail River → Kootenay National Park (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
potential WP:REDYES? Okmrman (talk) 03:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Otter Tail River as plausible spelling variant/ misspelling. --Lenticel (talk) 10:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with Lenticel. Jay 💬 08:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Flint Creek Valley (Montana)[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Flint Creek Range. signed, Rosguill talk 17:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Flint Creek Valley (Montana) → Montana Highway 1 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention Okmrman (talk) 03:01, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Flint Creek Range which is what creates the valley
- Tbennert (talk) 22:33, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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Alder Gulch Short Line Railroad[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was retarget to Virginia City, Montana. signed, Rosguill talk 17:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Alder Gulch Short Line Railroad → Shortline railroad (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
So a specific shortline railroad just redirects to the general page for shortline railroad without any explaination? Okmrman (talk) 03:00, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to the preservation section of Virginia City, Montana
- Tbennert (talk) 22:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with Tbennert's target, but the mention is in multiple sections, hence needn't be refined. Jay 💬 08:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Moralfaggotry[edit]
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- Moralfaggotry → Project Chanology (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I know that this is an insult but how does it specifically relate to Project Chanology. Also, person who made it was a vandalism account. Okmrman (talk) 02:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Not used in Wikipedia anywhere. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 15:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, not mentioned, and not every 4chan insult needs to redirect somewhere. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:INDISCRIMINATE --Lenticel (talk) 05:34, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Okay, so 4chan is strongly associated with project chanology, granted. But that doesn't mean 4chan terminology needs to be on wikipedia except where notable, and I'm pretty sure no WP:RS has or is going to cover this term, so... delete. Fieari (talk) 00:23, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. While there's a weak argument to redirect to 4chan, it's unmentioned there. Sage goes in all fields. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:05, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- retarget to Moral superiority as that is what it is insulting {{R from insult}} -- 65.92.244.237 (talk) 16:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - I think the retarget argument is a bridge too far for such an unencyclopedic term. signed, Rosguill talk 17:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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