- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 18:05, 29 June 2008 [1].
I feel this list establishes and meets the FL criteria, though, concerns shall be addressed. This list, lists every video game titles released in the WWE SmackDown (video game series).--SRX--LatinoHeat 00:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Remove link from bold text or the bold from the linked text (the first few words in the article) per WP:LEAD.
- The information in the tables could probably be consolidated into a nicer-looking wikitable. Something like the following:
Gary King (talk) 01:26, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, I removed the bold from the linked text. I find the placeability of the references for the consoles and release dates hard to place in that table, because there are going to be different rows, and each game has different release dates around the world. Which is why that types of table is used by WP:VG, like the FL List of Harvest Moon titles.SRX--LatinoHeat 01:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah okay, I have never seen that formatting before. Gary King (talk) 01:42, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Neither did I, until I saw that FL, which is why I used it for this list ;)SRX--LatinoHeat 01:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- There's also no need to link idle years per MOS:UNLINKYEARS. Gary King (talk) 01:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done--SRX--LatinoHeat 02:07, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- There's also no need to link idle years per MOS:UNLINKYEARS. Gary King (talk) 01:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Neither did I, until I saw that FL, which is why I used it for this list ;)SRX--LatinoHeat 01:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah okay, I have never seen that formatting before. Gary King (talk) 01:42, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Matthew
Comments
- "WWE SmackDown" need italicizing, as it's a title.
- "SmackDown" → "WWE Friday Night SmackDown"
- Remove the up from "up until 2005"
- Move "(as of 2008)" to the end of the sentence and remove the parentheses
- "The game engine for the games were based on the one used..." Game engine is singular, so "were" should be "was", or actually "is", as all the games exist in the present. and instead of "the one", use "that"
- "The engine was also used in Yuke's fictional professional wrestling series, Rumble Roses." present tense, so "is"
- "the series has remained so popular, is due to series bringing" remove the comma
- I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that as long as the photographer releases it into the public domain, a photo of a collection of the titles doesn't need a copyright tag. So can a free-use photograph featuring a collection of the titles be used instead of a fair-use image?
Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 03:22, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- No. That is still a copyrighted image. Free ones are always better. I meant if you (or someone else, it doesn't matter) get all your Smackdown games together, took a picture of them, and then uploaded it. You could always make a trip to GameStop!
- Don't strike out reviewer's comments.. Let the reviewer strike, hide or whatever they want to do, themselves. :) Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 16:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well I don't have a camera, my friends dont have many of these games, and I can't go to gamestop any time soon. Is the image going to keep it from passing?SRX--LatinoHeat 16:52, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- No, not at all. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 16:57, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well I don't have a camera, my friends dont have many of these games, and I can't go to gamestop any time soon. Is the image going to keep it from passing?SRX--LatinoHeat 16:52, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Check out the other Featured video game title lists List of Harvest Moon titles, List of F-Zero titles and List of Castlevania titles because they put the release dates in the same cell as the videogame title.
- This is true, though I find no difference, is it absolutely necessary to list it that way, changes happen overtime. Though, if it is necessary, I would be glad to change it.SRX--LatinoHeat 14:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, a consensus has been established via the FLC process. Things do change over time, but there is no good reason for this one other than personal preference. We should try to make sure that lists and articles within the same topic follow the same structure. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, I reformatted it to fit other FL's of this subject.SRX--LatinoHeat 14:34, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This is true, though I find no difference, is it absolutely necessary to list it that way, changes happen overtime. Though, if it is necessary, I would be glad to change it.SRX--LatinoHeat 14:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- One last thing: I'd be inclined to <!-- hide --> the 2009 game, as it hasn't been released yet. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 16:59, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I saw in other FL's they have the unreleased games with just the future game tag, which I just added, as some info about the unreleased game is in the lead. Is that still ok?SRX--LatinoHeat 17:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I actually don't like the tag! It's up to you, leave the tag in, or leave it as it was. :) Support. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 17:15, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I saw in other FL's they have the unreleased games with just the future game tag, which I just added, as some info about the unreleased game is in the lead. Is that still ok?SRX--LatinoHeat 17:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Needs a bolded word in the lead.
- Per WP:LEAD, it doesn't need a bold word, if there is no common one, and I used List of Harvest Moon titles (an FL) as a model, which also does not bold a word.--SRX--LatinoHeat 14:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm surprised WWE SmackDown (video game series) doesn't link to it (or at least, I couldn't find a prominent link) - why not?
- It does link to it, it has a {{main article}} link towards this list.--SRX--LatinoHeat 14:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Same with {{WWE video games}}
- Ok, I added a related articles section to the template, so it is in the template now.--SRX--LatinoHeat 14:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please leave me a talk page note to take another look - everything else seems good. —Giggy 03:33, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments: This list has really shaped up nicely. A few minor things that I noticed though that I think should be addressed.
- In the lead, the sentence about the original and present series seems weird with the years in parenthesis. Could they be integrated into the text so they have a better context?
- I integrated them into the context.SRX--LatinoHeat 14:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The last sentence of the lead seems a bit off to me. Maybe start with "THQ and YUKE's Future Media Creators consider one reason the series has..."
- 'Fixed'''SRX--LatinoHeat 14:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- In the notes for WWE SmackDown! vs. Raw 2006, I would trim it a bit:
"Was the first video game intothe seriesthat begun usinginclude a year in its title.- 'Fixed'''SRX--LatinoHeat 14:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- In the notes for WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2007, I would tweak the sentence some to flow better and be more concise. Try this:
"Was originally going to be released also on theA PlayStation 3 version was also planned, but was canceled mid-way into production."- Fixed
- Ref 5 and 6 are missing their authors.
- I added themSRX--LatinoHeat 14:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The authors for ref 21, 27, and 30 can be wikilinked: Jeremy Dunham and Matt Casamassina.
- In the lead, the sentence about the original and present series seems weird with the years in parenthesis. Could they be integrated into the text so they have a better context?
I'll check back in later after these are addressed. (Guyinblack25 talk 05:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]
- I wikilinkied them.SRX--LatinoHeat 14:00, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support: My concerns have been addressed. The list looks good: the lead is engaging, the list is comprehensive and well-structured. Nice job. (Guyinblack25 talk 17:34, 29 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]
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