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Category:Moomin locations[edit]

Nominator's rationale: There is only one article in this category, with low chances that it will ever be a meaningful size. Jontesta (talk) 23:25, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination and Marcocapelle. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:17, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Princes(ses) by country[edit]

Speedy Cfd discussion
  • @Omnis Scientia: shouldn't the standard be the other way around? These seem to be about princes and princesses of a country indeed, in contrast to "barons of" categories which you nominated at full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marcocapelle, I'm not fully sure. The naming is uneven in all these categories. But for princes and princesses, I would say "Fooian princes" is the better form since there are also sovereign princes such as the Prince of Monaco and many more throughout history. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:41, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, I didn't move this one to full Cfd since majority were already "Fooian princes(ses)" so C2C applied here. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The usage of "prince" in Prince of Monaco is quite exceptional, in contrast to the usage of the word "prince" as "male member of the family of the monarch". In both cases they are princes of a country though. What otherwise would they be a prince of. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      @Marcocapelle, would you be is favor of taking it to full Cfd? Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:01, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: So we have two options here: Option A: "Fooian princes(ses)"; or Option B: "Princes(ses) of Foo". Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Marcocapelle from the speedy Cfd discussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SFBB, you can choose the options here. Then the rest of the categories in Category:Princes by country and Category:Princesses by country can be speedied. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:52, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strongly prefer B for accuracy. When you read "Montenegrin princesses" literally then the category could also contain someone born in Montenegro, not as a princess, who marries a Spanish prince. But the intention of the category (inasfar as it concerns marriages) is people from anywhere in the world who marry a Montenegrin prince. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This a hard one. First, both categorizations are not equivalent. German princess is not the same a princess in Germany. E.g. Marie Antoinette was the princess consort of France, but she was not French but German (as any other subject of the HRE; Austrian was not considered a nationality back then). The previous example shows how difficult is to work with nationalities, especially as our understanding of nationalities has changed over time. On the other side, the categorization based on current countries is also problematic. What do we do princesses of Prussia? (no longer in Germany) or princesses of Bohemia? (Czechia? Germany? Austria?). I think this is quite close to WP:MILMOS#BATTLESIN. I think that the healthiest categorization would be Prince of Entity e.g. Prince of Bohemia, Princess of the Two Sicilies, Prince of Spain, etc. (even if the entity does no longer exist). Every other option just sounds very problematic to me and poised to miscategorization.SFBB (talk) 20:21, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @SFBB, I agree. This one is a bit difficult given how many such places there in Europe alone. @Marcocapelle, any thoughts on SFBB's suggestion? Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:54, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Three Kingdoms Buddhists[edit]

Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:NARROWCAT, a relatively short period in Chinese history from 220 to 280 AD does not require splitting in every of the three parallel kingdoms. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:22, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category: Philosophy majors[edit]

*Propose deleting Category:Philosophy majors (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Non-notable, pointless, one-off categorization. Unnecessary in light of Category:Philosophers. Tkaras1 (talk) 15:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:32, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, we do not categorize by education level. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete It is outside the scope of Wikipedia's categorization methods. desmay (talk) 18:25, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete. No one is really defined by their undergraduate major. Mason (talk) 04:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Australian-themed retailers[edit]

Nominator's rationale: The only category of its kind that I can find with the name of a nation and themed retailers on Wikipedia. This category does not make any sense as these are companies with operations in Australia, but are not Australian-themed. Themed would imply something implicit about Australian culture or history. This can be considered to be OR as the majority of articles don't make mention that they are based on the concept of Australian culture.

They would include Bloomin' Brands, Deliveroo, Gillyhicks, Kangaroo (video on demand), KangaRoos, and Kangol. Australia Dairy Company has little to do with it other than materials imported from the country. Australian Homemade is just the name of a sweets company. Bloomin' Brands is just a holding company that owns several restaurant chains.

Outback Steakhouse and Walkabout (pub chain) are the only two businesses with a theme based on Australia, but even then two articles would be too small for a category like this.

The categories that this is under Retailers by type of merchandise sold, Works about Australia, and Retailing in Australia have no relevance as these are not works in terms of literature, films, music, etc. usually considered in the line of popular culture. No evidence they sell Australian-type merchandise if that is even a thing.

And while Retailing in Australia would be considered since a couple of them do business in Australia, they should be in the Retailing category than this one if it applies. Australian Homemade is under Category:Restaurant chains in Australia, under a subcat of Australian brands, which is a subcat of the main Retailing in Australia category. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 13:46, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Albanian basketball players by populated place[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Container category containing only two categories. User:Namiba 11:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dual merge per Grutness. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:19, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Children of two peers and peeresses created life peers[edit]

speedy Cfd discussion
Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:NONDEF. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as already indicated in the speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Support per nom.
    98.228.137.44 (talk) 00:23, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kryvyi Rih National University, General Faculty alumni[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Kryvyi Rih National University, General Faculty is a redundant category layer, and the alumni category only has 1 person in it. Mason (talk) 01:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Athletes by religion[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCTRIVIAL, there is a long-standing consensus against intertwining sports and religion on Wikipedia (see here for example), and I struggle to see how these categories are any different. Because the article entries appear to be only from the United States, perhaps there could be a move discussion to something like Category:American Muslim athletes or Category:American athletes by religion as that may have been the creator's intention, but that still would seem to fail the site's category guidelines. Inter&anthro (talk) 20:21, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Please note that this differs from Jewish athletes since Judaism is both an ethnicity and a religion (an ethnoreligion) and most Jewish athletes identity as Jewish by virtue of being born Jewish and very few (VERY few) actually convert. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_June_19

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