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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Based on my reading of this discussion, the key arguments in favour of deletion are that a) she is not notable b) the article is a BLP violation and c) BLP1E. Regarding the first point, most of the delete arguments are just assertions and Saff V. and Mhhossein's sources have been largely uncontested except for Icewhiz's point which reads like a partial rebuttal. For the BLP vio claim, it's largely vague and it's not clear that it couldn't be resolved through editing rather than deletion. Finally, regarding the BLP1E point, it's again Mhhossein's and Icewhiz's points which are the most detailed, but it's not entirely clear whether one side is clearly more compelling than the other. Perhaps this leans more to a keep than a delete, but I'll play it safe and deem this a "no consensus". Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:06, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Somayeh Mohammadi[edit]

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Apparently the basis for a non-notable film, but that's not enough reason for an article. DGG ( talk ) 07:00, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:39, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:39, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and redirect to People's Mujahedin of Iran. Most of the detail here is excessive but the PMoI article has sections on Albania and on its cult characteristics which would be a good place for a couple of sentences about Somayeh Mohammadi as a case study. Mccapra (talk) 08:57, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the Article. It's notable completely and if you search about the person, you will find many reliable sources that paid to subject. But the Article need to fix its problem. My friend, DGG, it's not about a film. Article paid to a person who captured by MKO and only in the introduction section one paragraph speaks about the film. And also, merging the Article with main Article will waste the subject. The main article, People's Mujahedin of Iran, is not a subtitle place for fully coverage this title.Forest90 (talk) 09:48, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Such RSes like spiegel, independent and theguardian support the topic and prove the notability. Most of the article is about Somaye and her parents. Why do you think article is created base on that film while just one sentence is about the film in the article!Saff V. (talk) 11:18, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, BLP violation and not a notable topic. Alex-h (talk) 15:42, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: None-notable person. Barca (talk) 17:12, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Person is irrelevant. It's borderline like making a article of the average person. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:47, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
What is the connection between irrelevant and wp:Notability. Do you talk about specific policy?Saff V. (talk) 06:26, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Notable enough as far as I can see. - LouisAragon (talk) 14:23, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Too many problems with this WP:Advocacy article, but mainly fails WP:GNG. Nikoo.Amini (talk) 21:44, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Per Historyofiran. Subject is notable for what exactly? Nothing she has done, and no event surrounding her joining the MEK, meets any sort of notability criteria. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 08:56, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Agree with DGG. Poorly written article that also fails WP:PERSON. - MA Javadi (talk) 13:40, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • CommentThere are lots of RSes supported the notability of Somayeh Mohammadi:
  • The opinion of Somayeh about her parent's effort to meet her was reported by thenational
  • How did she join MEK and her parent's effort to meet her and her letter accusing her father of being an Iranian intelligence agent was reported by guardian
  • Somayeh has published her whole story in a book available in Persian and English which reported by tirana times
  • Stories have emerged of how MEK paid many media outlets in the country in order to buy their silence regarding the abduction of Somayeh Mohammadi which reported by Fars news
  • Brief and complete description about Somayeh specifically her parent's effort to meet her is presented by Spiegel
  • her parent's efforts to find her in Albania was reported by independent
  • She stated her opinion about the documentary film “An Unfinished Film For My Daughter.”(about her life narrated by her father). Also At the time, Mohammadi provided her response by writing a book, “The End Of A Conspiracy.” Which was reported by thebaghdadpost
  • Websites backed by MEK published articles about her, mek-iran and mojahedin... In the article, The National’s Gregg Russell interviewed MEK member Somayeh Mohammadi, The latest effort of Mostafa and Mahboubeh, Somayeh’s parents, is to come to Albania and file complaints against the MEK, Somayeh Mohammadi MEK member now living in Albania
  • Also, there are sources in Albanian such as TPZ, lexo and balkanweb about her and her parent's effort to meet Somayeh
  • Keep. There are film(s) and newspaper articles on her. Thus, notable enough to have an article.Kazemita1 (talk) 07:35, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Delete per WP:BLP1E, GNG. Ignoring unreliable sources for a BLP, what we have in terms of reliable coverage is a few media reports (of the spat between our subject and her father and mother who are trying to get her out of the camp) - from November 2018 through February 2019. This frames this individual within this single event. Should there be continuing and persisting coverage there may be cause to reconsider but not at the moment. Icewhiz (talk) 15:12, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Somayeh Mohammadi dismisses the allegations made in this article (which are in of itself not notable) as false: [1]. Alex-h (talk) 15:57, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Per GNG. The article is on a girl whose membership in MEK brought her some challenges and controversies, since he had parents wanting her back home. She was approached by some journalists on multiple occasions and had been the subject of multiple works in reliable sources so the details of her life story were covered by various reliable sources such The Guardian, Independent, Spiegel and some others (there are some sources mentioned by other users here and I'm not going to name them one by one). That said, WP:BLP1E does not apply here since, now, there's no single event making here notable. She's already a member so there's an ongoing story probably making her subject of more works in future. --Mhhossein talk 06:16, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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