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The result was no consensus defaulting to Keep and w/o prejudice to a future renomination. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:41, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nelson Broms[edit]

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I'm unable to find any substantial coverage of the subject in reliable sources. WP:BIO does not appear to be met. SmartSE (talk) 22:47, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 04:18, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:Promotional for reading like a CV. Could be helped by wikification. I mean if someone wanted to put the time in. Seafox289 (talk) 04:48, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote the article, and SmartSE is right -- there isn't substantial coverage of Nelson Broms in independent sources; not that's available online, at least, and I was surprised at that when I started on it. But a LexisNexis search turned up additional resources from the NYT, The Globe and Mail, and the Dallas Morning News/Tribune Business. I have PDFs of those microfiche documents but was told I didn't need to post them/link them simply because I cited them. These sources are cited in the article, just without links. I believe they, in combination with the existing linked citations, demonstrate notability. If it's necessary to have the article linked to make that case -- and if I can get some advice on where to upload the PDFs (I was advised against WikiSource and WikiCommons, due to copyright) -- I'll provide links. Rathfulman (talk) 21:22, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The sources don't need to be online, but they do need to provide extensive coverage. The Dallas Morning News is online, and it's one sentence; The New York Times [1] is accessible with a subscription; it verifies the assertion of the article, but the coverage of Broms is brief. I can't seem to find the Globe and Mail citation you referenced -- Rathfulman -- did you use it? JSFarman (talk) 23:06, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reply I didn't, JSFarman. It was similar to other citations, attesting to Broms' positions with Equitable, its subsidiaries and its president. However, it adds that he was a founder of the Association for Advanced Life Underwriters, and was named a life member of the Million Dollar Round Table, "The Premier Association of Financial Professionals." The primary difference is that this citation is from an international publication. Rathfulman (talk) 23:21, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Clearly notable as indicated by the large number of reliable sources that are already cited and this individual's achievements and awards. AfD is not for cleanup there are tags for that. Polyamorph (talk) 21:10, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - no major news coverage Joaomufc (talk) 14:50, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Being realistic about his age,i f we delete this now, we will need to restore it in a few years when the NYT full obituary will be available--there always is for businessmen of his prominence, (That isn't Not Yet notable, the notability that is the basis of the obit is already there) .President of the Equitable Life Insurance Company, a famous company and one of the largest insurance firms in the world. We almost always do include the chief executives of companies this size. The President of a major company can safely be assumed to have taken a major role in the company's decisions, and references to that are appropriate. The article needs some considerable trimming, however, it somewhat resembles a press release-I have started. . Quibbling about sources when the career is this notable is ignoring the meaning of the basic rule, NOT INDISCRIMINATE that is the principle behind the guideline of WP:N and the GNG DGG ( talk ) 15:10, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.