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The result was no consensus. The question whether QSO is a sufficient award for notability is interesting, but might be well outside the AfD scope.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:05, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Sullivan (rehabilitation academic)[edit]

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Not notable. (not MJ Sullivan from Duke University Medical Center). Award is not major. Lacks coverage about him in independent reliable sources. One of a glut of of articles on seemingly non notable St Peter's College old boys. Wikipedia is not a webhost for a collection bios of a schools former students. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:19, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 01:31, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - Doesn't stand out from the next academic - SimonLyall (talk) 01:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Queen's Service Order. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:12, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is QSO enough? It's well down the list of NZ Honours and Commonwealth honours have a poor precedence at AfD. OAM, deleted, OAM, deleted, AM, deleted, BEM, deleted, OAM, deleted, OAM, deleted, AM, keep, AM, keep. Looks like by themselves there is a bad record and only they are kept with other supporting evidence. Wikipedians' notice board discussion. duffbeerforme (talk) 03:28, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In my experience / opinion it is. OSM means things like this if you dig enough. Also see this, this, this and this. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:46, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep importance in relation to disability care and community role evidenced by award. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick570 (talk • contribs)
• Delete Unless QSM is the highest national civilian award, which I do not think it is. Otherwise there is nothing specific that would meet our usual standards. DGG ( talk ) 02:47, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Queens Order is not the highest but is one of the highest, see New Zealand Royal Honours System, notes at bottom of table for ordering. WP:ANYBIO says "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor". As User:Rick570 says, the award is evidence of significant role in disability care. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 18:41, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's the lowest general civilian award, & not enough. Johnbod (talk) 04:27, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Queen's Service Medal is the lowest. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 05:52, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - I added one more source. —Anne Delong (talk) 04:45, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Despite the incompetence of the writing of the article a search for "M J Sullivan" in GS gives enough cites for WP:Prof#C1. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:01, 14 November 2013 (UTC).[reply]

First hit is for Michael J. Second MJ Sullivan from Duke. Third Michael. Fourth Duke. Fifth Duke? Sixth Duke. Which good ones are from this Sullivan? duffbeerforme (talk) 06:23, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per deleters. Johnbod (talk) 04:27, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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