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The result was delete. plicit 03:32, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Columbine High School massacre in popular culture[edit]

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Another list(icle) of media in which an otherwise notable topic appears in. This is yet another violation of multiple policies and recommendations (multiple policies and guidelines (WP:IPC, WP:GNG, WP:NLIST, WP:INDISCRIMINATE,WP:TRIVIA, WP:OR, plus the just created WP:NOTTVTROPES). While mostly referenced and at least not failing WP:V, according to my BEFORE, this probably unrescuable, as this topic does not appear to have been covered before in a way that meets SIGCOV. A SOFTDELETE alternative might be redirecting this to Columbine_High_School_massacre#Popular_culture, although that section is not very impressive. Nothing warrants merger, as this entire article is an ORish list of media mentions, without any analysis (i.e. reliable sources saying that depiction of the event in x is actually significant with regards to pop-culture). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete standard example of WP:NOTTVTROPES. It was a tragic event, but not something where we need to list every time anyone even mentioned it. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 00:13, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as WP:OR. If no reliable independent sources can be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article about it. Obviously the real-world event itself is verifiable in reliable sources, and suitable for Wikipedia. But an indiscriminate list of badly referenced mentions is not. There may be some secondary source that covers this in a way that would allow us to write a proper section, but there would be nothing from this article to WP:PRESERVE. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:01, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. While this would appear to be a no consensus by the numbers, the strength of !votes clearly tips this to delete as those have policy on their side. Those arguing this could be solved editorially have not provided policy based reasons to keep it. If someone believes there's significant Malaysian sourcing, I' happy to provide in draft. Star Mississippi 01:55, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My Jet Xpress Airlines[edit]

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the managing director of a Malaysian aviation startup came on live chat and wanted to know why his company couldn't have an article, when inadequately-sourced articles like this one exist. He's right - I checked, and I don't think this one meets notability criteria. The sources cited are primary. I'm loath to delete it based solely on the complaints of a competitor, though.

Also, the company's been around for 50 years, so maybe I'm just not using the optimal search terms or looking in the right places. DS (talk) 14:56, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep an airline that operates a Boeing 737 size aircraft is of note, deletion is not a cure for badly referenced article it just needs some work. MilborneOne (talk) 18:31, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep GNews has a few good hits in Transportation media/publications, this one [1] for example. Oaktree b (talk) 00:18, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    and a few other sources in Malaysian media, in Malay? and Chinese it looks like. I think we have notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:21, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Nonsense to suggest that a company that operates a Boeing 737 is notable - there's nothing in our guidelines to suggest that forms part of the criteria. This is a company/organization therefore NCORP guidelines apply. There are particular criteria for establishing the notability of a company which must be met by appropriate references and this article has no references that come close. I'm not an expert in searching for Malaysian sources though but my attempts came up empty - its all very well wishing that better sources exist but we also can't assume that they do for sure exist. Finally, references that are based on company announcements and press releases fails ORGIND and do not assist in establishing notability. As it stands, this topic fails NCORP. HighKing++ 11:25, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Just Need Some Works To The Article Emery Cool21 (talk) 12:13, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome to be the one who does that work. DS (talk) 12:55, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It shouldn’t be necessary for someone who votes to keep an article to edit it. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 22:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Fails WP:NCOMPANY. Operating B737 or whatever is not a free pass allowing the company to have a catalogue-entry that fails GNG. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:11, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The topic/company appears to be of note and the article could be edited and reworked.Bookworm857158367 (talk) 22:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    "appears to be of note" - where?
    Edited and reworked: sure. Are you volunteering to do so? DS (talk) 23:32, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Not my job or required of someone who votes to keep an article. Based on the article itself, I think the company is notable and someone else can improve or expand it. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 23:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. plicit 07:25, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Disney's Really Short Report[edit]

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Mike's Super Short Show (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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Three closely related interstitial shorts, not a single reliable source among them. As shorts and not full shows in their own right, they are far less likely to have ever received any WP:RS attention. Indeed, they get no relevant hits on Newspapers.com or ProQuest -- just tangential mentions or program directories. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 17:43, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 02:57, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

David Kwangshin Kim[edit]

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Pastor of unclear notability. Article has no secondary sources. His ministry may be notable, but unsure if Kim is notable. Natg 19 (talk) 18:51, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep, KO Wikipedia cites to nontrivial coverage in several sources, including the Kukmin Ilbo[2] and Mission Times[3]. Even if these sources were rejected for some reason, there seems little doubt that others could be found with some effort. -- Visviva (talk) 23:18, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Subject appears more than notable and article should be able to be improved upon with available sources.Bookworm857158367 (talk) 21:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Star Mississippi 01:55, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Internet Sanctions Project[edit]

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Sources here are mostly primary sources, even on user-generated platforms, and many do not even mention the Internet Sanctions Project. It does not seem to meet WP:NCORP. MarioGom (talk) 21:05, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. It looks like it meets WP:GNG to me... The original author only included four citations to mainstream media references (The Register, the Washington Post, Heise and the Associated Press), but those aren't insignificant, and a quick search found a ton more, which I added a few of. The news media seems to view both the project itself as significant, and the opinions of the people who're doing the project as individually significant. And it seems like most of the organizers are notable individually as well, since there are preexisting Wikipedia pages about them. Perhaps the article would be improved if any of the primary sources which weren't contributing usefully were culled, and the remainder were moved into the External links section? Otherwise, for a relatively short article, it seems well-written and well-supported with citations. EVhotrodder (talk) 23:16, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Blocked sock --Blablubbs (talk) 11:31, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Which sources are you referring to, exactly? I see 8 hits for Internet Sanctions Project on Google. The Washington Post piece [4] do not mention the project at all. It's just a quote by one of the founders? That poses two problems: 1) notability is not inherited, there may be some info due for the founder page, but that doesn't make this project notable, and 2) WP:ORGCRIT requires significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, and that's simply not existent here. MarioGom (talk) 13:10, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The references in significant mainstream international media refer to the letter and solution proposed by this active organization, which seems to play a significant role in an important contemporary debate. Seems consistent with WP:GNG and WP:NCORP to me. Detlevore (talk) 08:30, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Since you mention WP:NCORP, can you cite the exact sources that provide significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject? MarioGom (talk) 13:11, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The article has lots of references, but none of them are about this organization. In fact, I couldn't find one that even mentioned the organization. A Google news+archive search turns up zero results. I am not sure what references in mainstream media outlets the keep !voters could possibly be talking about. agtx 15:18, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to INNOVATE Corp. or a section thereof, should a defunct stations one be created Star Mississippi 02:00, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WADA-LD[edit]

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Non-notable defunct LPTV station. No sources. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 02:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Wish there was a good redirect target that could at least list the subchannels for diginet tree LPTVs like these and would be open to anyone suggesting one. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:28, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Let me get this straight. Consensus is being determined solely by the same two editors who have doggedly pushed the POV that notability hinges solely on the existence of a currently valid FCC license? No credibility there. As for a redirect target, the article contains a link to a parent company. The state-level list article, if it's properly serving the purpose of a historical record, should have a section for defunct stations. Wilmington is a large enough media market to where a media-specific subarticle should exist. It's not like there are zero possibilities. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 19:38, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I object to this characterization because that is not—at all—my view. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:42, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect to the HDC? holdings company I guess is the best bet.Oaktree b (talk) 23:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, a line item in a "defunct stations" table in INNOVATE Corp., or possibly a spinoff list, is probably the only useful thing I could see. There's no table of HC2 stations now, though. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:05, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep per WP:SK#1. The nomination is only proposing a merge. I suggest adding merge templates to the articles denoted and starting a discussion on a talk page. North America1000 01:46, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Drugu[edit]

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Merge the one or two sentences in the article to Turkic peoples, and then redirect. Mooonswimmer 23:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Neither of which involves the administrator tool, and could have been done in two edits as opposed to the three edits that this AFD nomination took. This is articles for deletion. If you don't want the administrator deletion tool used, you are in the wrong place. Uncle G (talk) 23:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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To a Place[edit]

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Non-notable, fails WP:ALBUM. Mooonswimmer 23:10, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Lipshitz Saves the World[edit]

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Non-notable, unproduced comedy Mooonswimmer 23:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Speedy Delete. Deleted by Cryptic under WP:G11 (non-admin closure) TartarTorte 02:43, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rajender Singh Pahl[edit]

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CSD G11 removed. Article is WP:PROMOTION Whiteguru (talk) 22:10, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • EDIT CONFLICT ??? CSD tag was not visible on the page, yet visible in page history. Article is still promotional in nature. --Whiteguru (talk) 22:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    As per your warning, I have made the changes. The article has now become neutral and encyclopedic in nature. Also I have provided the references from the top journals and newspapers that you can verify. Not even a single word is written without a reference. I therefore request you to remove the CSD tag. Prasun020 (talk) 22:49, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment not seeing notability either, sources don't help much. Oaktree b (talk) 23:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. plicit 01:24, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pete Festersen[edit]

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Elected official with no significant coverage outside local sources; fails notability criteria for politicians and WP:GNG. – Ploni (talk) 21:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 01:24, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Melvin Black[edit]

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Elected official with no significant coverage outside local sources; fails notability criteria for politicians and WP:GNG. – Ploni (talk) 21:39, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Amanda McClendon[edit]

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Elected official with no significant coverage outside local sources; fails notability criteria for politicians and WP:GNG. – Ploni (talk) 21:37, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 01:25, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

J. B. Loring[edit]

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Elected official with no significant coverage outside local sources; fails notability criteria for politicians and WP:GNG. – Ploni (talk) 21:36, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Howard Gentry Jr.[edit]

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Elected official with no significant coverage outside local sources; fails notability criteria for politicians and WP:GNG. – Ploni (talk) 21:30, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Ronnie Greer[edit]

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Elected official with no significant coverage outside local sources; fails notability criteria for politicians and WP:GNG. – Ploni (talk) 21:29, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Pam Murray[edit]

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Elected local official with no significant coverage; fails notability criteria for politicians and WP:GNG. – Ploni (talk) 21:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Vic Lineweaver[edit]

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Elected local official with no significant coverage; fails notability criteria for politicians and WP:GNG. – Ploni (talk) 21:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Charlie Tygard[edit]

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Elected local official with no significant coverage; fails notability criteria for politicians and WP:GNG. – Ploni (talk) 21:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Stephen Philips[edit]

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WP:BLP of a musician, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC. The notability claim here is essentially just that his music exists, and the only source being cited is his own self-published profile on the website of his own self-owned record label, which is not a notability-assisting source -- and it's been flagged for the referencing problem since 2014 without ever having any new references added. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to get over WP:GNG on real coverage in real media. Bearcat (talk) 20:36, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Beekeeper (band)[edit]

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Article about a band, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC. The attempted notability claims here are charting #102 on Canada's campus radio charts (a WP:BADCHART that cannot establish musical notability, as it isn't IFPI-certified), airplay on CBC Radio 3 which is unverified as their name appears nowhere at all in the page that's being cited to support it, and a concert tour which is sourced solely by an unreliable blog and the band's own self-published website rather than the WP:GNG-worthy coverage about the tour that's actually required to pass the touring criterion.
This is, further, referenced almost entirely to blogs, university student media, the band's own website and other sources that aren't support for notability; there's just one citation to a real major daily newspaper, and even that's just their hometown newspaper giving them a Q&A interview in which they're talking about themselves in the first person, which means it would be fine for use if the other sourcing were stronger but can't vault them over GNG all by itself.
Essentially, nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt them from having to be referenced a lot better than this. Bearcat (talk) 20:19, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 02:56, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of people on the postage stamps of the Faroe Islands[edit]

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Deprodded without comment. Yet another "List of people on the postage stamps of X" article with zero encyclopedic content or sources. Expanding the list is doing nothing to improve its lack of value, its lack of sources, its lack of anything. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 19:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. A source was added before the deletion proposal, and I was about to post a comment at Talk:List of people on the postage stamps of the Faroe Islands when this new message was posted to me.
    If the concept of List of people on the postage stamps of X is at all legitimate on en:wp, this list is among the better half on them. It is sourced and it is complete. Bw, Orland (talk) 20:13, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Sourcing is far from the only issue here. A lot of these "List of people on the postage stamps of X" articles are being deleted or nominated because it's difficult to WP:V every single one of them, and no one has expressed any reason why they should be kept. What encyclopedic value do they contribute? Wikipedia is not a list of everything that ever existed. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 20:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @TenPoundHammer: I recognize your method in this matter, having used it myself to remove abandoned portals at no:wp. However; if your aim is to erase the whole concept of these list articles, you can only achieve some of your goal by removing the weakest ones. In the end, erasing the whole concept should be treated in another forum that individual deletion proposals for all 171 lists. Bw Orland (talk) 20:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I've added a danish language academic source discussing the national symbols of Denmark and its realms. This book comfirms that the stamp policy of the Faroese Islands is to reflect the Islands' history and culture. Thus, that would be the answer to the encyclopedic value: these people are carefully selected as important people in Faroese history. Bw Orland (talk) 21:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This is not an indiscriminate list, but has encyclopedic value as a reference work of the most notable people of the islands.
Unlike a category, this has the added benefit of beautiful artwork, so it can also include some documentation about the artists. This makes the list a biographical, philatelic, and artistic treasure useful to biographical, philatelic, and art historians. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 22:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"It looks beautiful" is not a reason to keep. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 23:49, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
LOL! Nice cherry picking. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 00:49, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: a sourced list of people that the Faroese themselves consider important enough to be on their stamps: just as valid as the many "Hall of Fame" lists we see. These are notable people - I've added {{ill}} links to a few who are in no.wiki or da.wiki but not yet in en.wiki. The no.wiki equivalent appears to be a Featured List - yes, I know that every wiki is different, but it seems worth mentioning! PamD 10:28, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Since the Faroese government took charge of the postal service in th 1970's, the stamps have had a role in shaping the Faroese national identity. The people depicted on the stamps, have played noteworthy roles in the Faroese society. Of course it is both appropriate and useful to others to compile a list of these people, as to recipients of honors and awards, and even those who declined to recieve them. Efloean (talk) 18:36, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The topic is clearly notable and of importance. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 23:10, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 02:55, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Robert O. Wray[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:NBIO. – Ploni (talk) 19:10, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 01:31, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pascal Etcheber[edit]

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Appears to fail WP:NACADEMIC. – Ploni (talk) 18:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fair point. I agree that he seems to fail WP:GNG too in any case. –Ploni (talk) 13:18, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per nom. Meets neither academic nor general guidelines. Ari T. Benchaim (talk) 14:41, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. plicit 01:31, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Israel Virgines[edit]

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Fails WP:NBIO. – Ploni (talk) 18:49, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge to Legislative Assembly of Omsk Oblast. plicit 01:32, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of chairmen of the Legislative Assembly of Omsk Oblast[edit]

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A list with one item fails WP:NLIST. Gabe114 (talk) 18:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 01:32, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Donald A. Coggan[edit]

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Appears to strongly fail notability guidelines. A quick Google search ("Donald Coggan engineer") yields basically nothing. – Ploni (talk) 18:44, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete as per nomination. No results other than his books and his own website. -ecotalk to me 21:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete With both the sources listed and sources available online, fails to meet WP:GNG. Reads like WP:RESUME. Firsthand accounts for sourcing without outside support. NiklausGerard (talk) 19:49, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Asare Bediako Adams[edit]

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Does not meet notability criteria, and clearly written by the subject (User:Bediakoasare4). – Ploni (talk) 18:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Iman Ebrahimi[edit]

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No evidence that he meets WP:MUSICBIO, WP:BIO, or WP:GNG. It can be difficult to find reliable sources online about notable Iranian people, but having searched the romanised and Persian spellings of his name online, I can only find that he did release an album, but not whether it had any chart success, news coverage, or won any awards. The one reliable-looking source I could find on him online [12] says that he wanted to buy a notable football club in 2016. Storchy (talk) 18:06, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete the presented sources do not seem enough and about half are not acceptable sources such as Myspace and youtube. I agree with nominator that because of the subject being Persian it may be hard to find sources or verify if he meets MUSICBIO. Samanthany (talk) 00:12, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. plicit 01:37, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Purdy[edit]

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WP:BLP of a musician and writer, not making any strong or properly referenced claim to passing either WP:NMUSIC or WP:NAUTHOR. The notability claim here is essentially that his work exists, which isn't an automatic notability freebie in the absence of a WP:GNG-worthy volume of reliable source coverage about it in the media, but the referencing is entirely to the self-published websites of directly affiliated companies or institutions. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be the subject of third-party coverage and analysis in actual GNG-worthy media. Bearcat (talk) 17:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - as noted, there is proof here that the author exists, and that the author has published a couple of works and worked in theatre. Is there any indication that any of that is notable? Not that I can find. I found mentions of him in discussion of several musicals, but not in any great volume; I found a review of one book on a site that looked to be not terribly notable, but no real coverage of either he or his books. I can't find any proof that he meets any notability guidelines. Tony Fox (arf!) 18:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - The citations are not adequate and it doesn't pass MUSICBIO or GNG.Samanthany (talk) 01:14, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to John Salley#Television. plicit 01:38, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I Can't Believe You Said That[edit]

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Zero sourcing found on Newspapers.com/ProQuest. Twinkle somehow failed to notice that this was previously prodded in 2009. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 17:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as listed above. DonaldD23 talk to me 01:10, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Restore disambiguation. which I have done. Star Mississippi 03:10, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

UEFA European Qualifiers[edit]

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Effectively double with FIFA World Cup qualification and UEFA European Championship qualifying. The Banner talk 17:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Restore disambiguation The "UEFA European Qualifiers" is a branding name for commercial purposes, and should not be considered a singular competition. The article is almost entirely unsourced and violates WP:NOTSTATS and WP:NOR. This page has information on qualifying since 1934, when UEFA did not even exist. In addition, the European World Cup qualifiers are still counted as a FIFA competition, merging all this information together makes no sense. S.A. Julio (talk) 17:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore disambiguation per above, as completely unsourced to start with. Kante4 (talk) 19:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Restore disambiguation as above. GiantSnowman 06:03, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore disambiguation as above. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:45, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • If there is a strong consensus for deletion, so be it. My mistake may have been the focus on statistics rather than substance. Let me note however that stats are unsourced across multiple football articles, including FIFA World Cup qualification, UEFA European Championship qualifying (average points per game for every team - what is it if not OR???) or, for example, European Cup and UEFA Champions League records and statistics ("biggest disparity between group winner and runner-up", ratio of goals to appearances etc., oldest and youngest goalscorer - all without an external source). As regards the fact that we speak of two distinct tournaments - yes, we do, but this is precisely why I felt that such an article would be useful. The same teams, with the same players, compete in the same way every two years under different headings - but then from the point of view of sports (as opposed to formalities) it makes no sense to analyze the 2002, 2006, 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022 stats separately from the 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020 stats. As a matter of fact, I started to develop the page precisely after I wanted to find some combined stats and could not find them on Wikipedia. Please give it a thought. Ivan Volodin (talk) 09:05, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore disambiguation Agree with the others, should the nav template be on this page? Govvy (talk) 09:36, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore disambiguation per above. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 15:26, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • restore disambiguation per above Hhkohh (talk) 04:03, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Double Dutch Drinks[edit]

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There are references here, but per WP:CORP - quantity does not determine significance - the depth of coverage is fairly passing and routine for this small company. The article itself also lacks depth. Uhooep (talk) 17:03, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 01:41, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ajinkya Bhasme[edit]

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Fails WP:NAUTHOR and WP:GNG. Lacks quality book reviews to support his author claim. Also, the "Critical reception" or "Reception" section are generally used for books, not for authors. Besides that, most of the citations are WP:ADMASQ. High probability; the page is a WP:UPE by an WP:SPA . Hence, calling for an AfD discussion. - Hatchens (talk) 16:55, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 (ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 10:00, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anne-Marie Minhall[edit]

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WP:BLP of a radio personality, referenced exclusively to her own staff profile on the self-published website of her own employer rather than any evidence of third-party reliable source coverage. As always, broadcasters aren't "inherently" notable just because they exist, but must have their work externally validated as significant by third-party sources: notable broadcasting awards, newspaper or magazine articles about her and her career, and on and so forth.
As I don't have access to databases in which I could recover archived British media coverage, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with better access to those resources can find enough proper coverage to salvage this -- but nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to have better sourcing than just her own employer's staff directory.
Note as well that the first discussion ten years ago is not definitive: radio presenters are not automatically notable just because they're on the radio, but rather she has to be a subject of coverage, in sources other than her own employer, in order to establish her significance. But the first discussion hinged entirely on "notable because she exists" rather than on any evidence that she could be brought up to a WP:GNG-passing standard of sourceability. Bearcat (talk) 16:47, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Nothing found, I expected to find something if she's been there for 14 yrs, all are for her employer/from their website. Oaktree b (talk) 17:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I've expanded the article to include a couple of appearances as a celebrity presenter for classical music concerts, and she seems to be notable in that area. There's also a paywalled article in The Times, which from the visible snippet seems as if it might be discussing her in terms of invisibility of older women in the media, but isn't showing up in the Times Archive in the Gale service (possibly too recent: October 2014) - anyone got access to the current Times? PamD 09:19, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You've expanded the article with bad sourcing that isn't support for notability.
Presenting orchestra shows is only a notability claim to the extent that you can support it with journalistic reportage about her presentation of orchestra shows in media; it does not go toward notability if you have to reference it to the self-published websites of the orchestras she presented for, because they aren't independent of the claim being made. Something like that requires media coverage to be done about it by journalists, not just the self-published website of the organization that hired her to do the work, before it turns into a notability claim.
Her agency profile on the self-published website of her own PR agent is also not a notability-assisting source, because again it isn't independent of her.
The only two sources here that are remotely acceptable reliable sources at all are #4 (INews) and #7 (Rhinegold) — but she isn't the subject of either of those sources, and instead is just briefly namechecked in sources whose primary subject is something else. So they would be fine for use unlike the other five, but they don't get her over WP:GNG all by themselves if they're all she's got for media coverage.
You're going to have to try harder than that. Bearcat (talk) 21:50, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Access to the 2014 Times article is available via Gale, and only mentions Minhall: "Within days, his permanent replacements had been put in place: Anne-Marie Minhall on weekday afternoons and Alexander Armstrong, of Pointless and "Pimm's o'clock" fame, on Saturdays." 2010 commentary titled "An age-old injustice" from The Sunday Times is on Gale and only mentions Minhall in a list: "Radio does not throw women like this on the scrapheap. On the contrary, it is where women broadcasters of Smith's age and above flourish. They include Shelagh Fogarty and Sarah Montague (both 44), Anne-Marie Minhall and Jo Whiley (both 45)..." (and 18 more names). There is also a 2016 interview with Radio Times on Gale, with a graf labeled CV that includes basic biographical and career information. She is also listed as a speculative nominee for a SONY award by the Guardian in 2007 (via Gale "So maybe this year we might see nominations for more female presenters, perhaps including Jenni Murray, Emma B, Jo Whiley, Anne-Marie Minhall, Sarah Kennedy, or Laverne herself?"). She also hosted a charity event in 2018 (via Gale), and her timeslot moved in 2013 (via Gale). I have not looked at ProQuest yet, but I think more is needed to support WP:BASIC notability because these sources are largely not offering secondary context or commentary about her and her work. Beccaynr (talk) 22:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Fully referenced and passes notability criteria. Rillington (talk) 14:07, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not fully referenced at all — five of the seven footnotes are primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, and the other two just trivially mention her in the process of not being about her, so there are no sources here at all that are getting her over WP:GNG. Bearcat (talk) 21:50, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak keep - I added a few sources from ProQuest, including one review focused entirely on her show in The Independent, another review in The Observer focused in part on her show, and a mention with some commentary and context in The Independent about her role as a news editor at Classic FM, as well as some of the 'CV' information noted above that preceded the Radio Times interview. I think these sources help support WP:BASIC notability, particularly in combination with other sources noted in this discussion that indicate she is assumed to be familiar to readers. Beccaynr (talk) 00:18, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Meets WP:BASIC per above arguments. SBKSPP (talk) 01:18, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Certainly exceeds the bare minimum for notability based on the references listed. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 03:58, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Agree. ~~~~ Nwhyte (talk) 09:16, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Seems sufficient for an article. Artw (talk) 15:36, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The sources listed are all either churn, self published, or (a single) paywalled. Even if I assume good faith on the paywalled source, that is only 1 significant and independent source, which is not enough to establish notability. Rockphed (talk) 04:24, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:HEY. Bearian (talk) 19:14, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. plicit 01:41, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Grinzola[edit]

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There is only one source. This source contains a leaflet(primary source, because it is an exhibit). The commentary is not enough to make an article beyond WP:NOT#DICDEF. The company(Nordex Food) has no article on Wikipedia. Lurking shadow (talk) 16:28, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete, no evidence that this is a notable product, even though it seems to have existed in the 1990s and was sold at Sainsbury's: [13] [14]Kusma (talk) 16:37, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per lack of sources. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 17:54, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. No opinion on notability but seems to exist per the Wellcome source I added to the article and Lynda Brown The Shopper's Guide to Organic Food (1998), pages 68 and 163, which describes it as "a Briestyle sliceable cheese". ETA: also two hits in WL: "Nordex Food" in Super Marketing magazine (Feb. 18, 2000) snippet states "Nordex Food has changed the name of its Cornflower range to Dairyland Organic and given it new, modern packaging. The range still includes Butter, Extra Creamy Danish Blue, Cream Cheese and Grinzola, and all have Soil..." and "Danes gain foothold for organic dairy products" in Grocer. (March 12, 1994), Vol. 216 Issue 7142, p33. There might well be more sources in Danish. Espresso Addict (talk) 19:13, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    My theory is that they had to rename the cheese when Gorgonzola became a protected name in the EU in the mid-1990s. The Wellcome source says it was produced by Gedsted Dairy, which in Danish is "Gedsted Mejeri" (so Nordex is only the importer to the UK), and I am pretty sure the cheese is still being sold, under the name "Blå Kornblomst" = "Blue cornflower". Here is a cheese shop selling it. —Kusma (talk) 19:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    That's a nice, even believable theory, but in the absence of any reliable source tying these two together it is simply original research.Lurking shadow (talk) 20:35, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Indeed. I certainly wouldn't add any of my claims to the article. But maybe my speculation is useful for someone else who can show the cheese is notable after all, or who can prove my theory. —Kusma (talk) 20:45, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete nothing found, maybe in Danish? No news articles, only rehashes of what's given in wiki. Oaktree b (talk) 00:12, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 19:49, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Benjamin Beresford[edit]

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Article which likely fails WP:NACTOR. A child actor who only appeared in one series (Coronation Street) in a recurring role and has not had any other roles since. There is little, if any, media coverage about him and the article's only source is an archived profile of the character he played on the series' official website with no information on the actor himself. Koljanc (talk) 15:44, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete, absolutely agree with the nomination, this is someone who played a child actor with no significant or notable storylines and who has no acting credits since. The article was created at a time when these kind of articles were more passable, however there is nothing here to suggest an article is warranted. Bungle (talk • contribs) 16:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete there is a reason why the guidlines ask for multiple significant roles. One role, that may or may not have actually been significant, does not cut it.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Gbooks has a hit, in French, from 1782. nothing notable here.Oaktree b (talk) 00:15, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    There's one mention in The Sun (I think it was), a tabloid about the 60 years of Coronation Street, and he hardly gets a mention. Not notable at all. Oaktree b (talk) 00:43, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Per nom. Fails WP:GNG, WP:ACTOR. Scraped Google for WP:SIGCOV and it’s not there. NiklausGerard (talk) 21:51, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Vinh Long Radio Television. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 (ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 15:30, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of television programmes broadcast by Vinh Long TV (THVL)[edit]

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I removed the speedy deletion because I didn't think it met that qualification. However, I believe this article fails WP:NOTDIRECTORY as it doesn't seem to have the proper fit for an article. Paul McDonald (talk) 15:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If it can be verified independent of Wikipedia I don't see why not. Would it perhaps be better to call it a list of shows "produced" or "created for" instead? desmay (talk) 14:13, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 03:06, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Bardales[edit]

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Nominating on behalf of Kaltariel (talk · contribs) who prodded the article; as it was previously AFD'd in 2020, it's not eligible for prod. Previous AFD closed as "no consensus" Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 15:06, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I nominated it because the topic didn't seem to merit inclusion in an encyclopedia. There doesn't seem to be wide enough interest in the topic. Kaltariel (talk) 18:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I still stand by my view stated in the 2020 nomination that the sources are too tabloidish.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:42, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is the third nomination..we need to establish a limit on nominations because otherwise, in 20 years we will still be debating whether an article merits being deleted or not. I think two or perhaps three nominations would be enough and then if it's not deleted after that, snowball. As it is I will again vote weak keep. The subject was involved in a big scandal, the Monica Lewinski of Peru if you will. And we are not nominating Monica for deletion. Antonio El Donado Martin (aca) 19:56, May 17, 2022 (UTC)
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  • Keep this and this establish notability. NemesisAT (talk) 15:21, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The above sources are WP:SIGCOV, there are a few more in English at Newspapers.com, and she is certainly not any less notable than she was in 2020: notability is WP:NOTTEMPORARY. Jacona (talk) 21:28, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. plicit 01:43, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Salis[edit]

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Appears to be a non-notable businessperson. All coverage appears to either be hyperlocal (inside the DC beltway), niche industry, and run-of-the-mill financial announcements about his various businesses. Paid creation and ongoing paid editing, some of which is likely undisclosed. valereee (talk) 14:56, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Agree, non-notable. hyper local covergae Oaktree b (talk) 16:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I see no assertion of importance or significance here. This is a living person who operates some businesses, has raised some money, and has had legal issues. Like the nominator, I see a few local sources about his business but not much directly detailing the subject. A reasonable search finds lots of self promotion and some marginal, routine business news but nothing approaching the standard of multiple independent and reliable sources directly detailing the subject. The subject exists, does business, and is a relatively successful self-promoter, like tens of thousands of small businesses owners across the DC area. However, Wikipedia is neither Facebook nor Linkedin. You don't automatically get a Wikipedia page just because you want one or paid for one. BusterD (talk) 16:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Chiming in, obviously not to vote, but to address a few issues. Specifically, I’d like to address two points:
  • "hyperlocal, niche industry" Having mostly local coverage or coverage within a niche industry is not an impediment to meeting GNG. WP:AUD only applies to organizations, not people or other subjects.
  • "run-of-the-mill coverage" - This Washington Post article is a lengthy profile piece on Salis in the Food section of an international paper of record, and This Washingtonian article is another WP:RS all about Salis's background and career. None of these are routine.
As the article history clearly demonstrates, I have disclosed my connection with the subject; editing, changes, and content suggestions have been made and reviewed by numerous neutral, unaffiliated editors, including Spencer, Theroadislong, Z1720, Chicdat, and JzG. I ask that the discussion here please focus on relevant guidelines. Sheena 2022 (talk) 12:33, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Sheena 2022, the fact multiple other editors, even ones with long experience, edited the article doesn't necessarily mean an article subject is notable. Sometimes it takes someone who is extremely familiar with a particular subject area to think, hey...are we sure this guy's notable? I did go in and look at the sources before I nominated this. These are all either very local (including WaPo and the Washingtonian), or are in niche industry sources (like Nation's Restaurant News) or are run-of-the-mill financial stuff, like American City Business Journals. Plus the stuff in the industry/business journals are about the businesses, not about him. In general what we need to see are three articles like the WaPo one about him; of those three, two need to be outside his local area AND outside industry niche publication. ETA: you are perfectly welcome to !vote, but be aware that it's not actually a vote. We call it a !vote ("not vote") because the closer looks at the arguments, not the numbers. valereee (talk) 17:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: a paid or connected editor, no matter how previously successful, is in exactly NO position to chide established and trusted editors about what we should and shouldn't cover in an AfD about a subject with which they are clearly conflicted and have a financial stake. I do appreciate the presented sources, but these profiles meet the definition of routine dining and business news. This news space would have otherwise been filled with a similar article about another restauranteur/entrepreneur as appears almost daily in those journals. BLP is a policy, not a guideline; in order to protect any living person, Wikipedia requires a higher level of sourcing than that we might normally accept in an article about a restaurant or a real estate business. I'm not seeing sufficient direct detailing to move the needle for me. BusterD (talk) 16:11, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No evidence of subject himself (rather than associated organizations) receiving significant coverage outside of the local area; no clear significance or assertion of broader importance. SpencerT•C 17:06, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Like the other experienced editors, I'm not seeing non-local sigcov; just the usual fluff local interest pieces that WaPo's just as prone to printing as any supermarket weekly. (And that being said, I'm with BusterD -- nothing prohibits a paid editor from registering his or her opinion at AfD, but it wasn't seemly even before said editor complained on the Notability talk page at the position taken by every other editor here. Beyond that, claiming the support of other editors by virtue of them also editing the article is disingenuous at best, especially when the bulk of their contributions was to clean up the excessive fluff of the previous paid editor.) Ravenswing 04:19, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 18:17, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Bad Girl's Guide[edit]

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Yet another unsourced stub on a reality show too short-lived to have garnered attention Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 14:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Guess we disagree. A press release is written by the company behind the show. These are all independent different writers with totally different articles. Just because they were syndicated to different newspapers does not mean they are press releases. DonaldD23 talk to me 16:54, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, here's another one from Variety [18], and one from The Austin Chronicle [19] DonaldD23 talk to me 17:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - multiple sources already shown. At worse this could have been a redirect to Cameron Tuttle. Not sure deletion should have been first option to discuss for this. Then again based on sources and the article itself this was a sitcom and this nomination is talking about a reality show, so I'm not sure what is going on there.. WikiVirusC(talk) 18:11, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. plicit 01:44, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

CNN Special Investigations Unit[edit]

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Zero sourcing found. Prod contested Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 14:50, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Gold, Matea (2007-01-08). "CNN adding weekend investigative series". Los Angeles Times. Archived from the original on 2022-05-22. Retrieved 2022-05-22.

      The article notes: "Heartened by the success it’s found with documentaries about Osama bin Laden and waste in the federal government, CNN is debuting a new weekly investigative series this month to showcase long-form pieces by some of the network’s best-known correspondents. “CNN: Special Investigations Unit,” which will premiere Jan. 20, is the latest initiative at the cable news network, ... The new hourlong series, which will air Saturdays and Sundays at 5 p.m. with a repeat at 8 p.m., will feature work by chief international correspondent Christiane Amanpour and anchors Anderson Cooper and Soledad O’Brien as well as correspondents like John Roberts, John King and Candy Crowley. ... The first installment of “CNN: Special Investigations Unit” will be “The War Within,” a piece by Amanpour about Muslim extremism in Britain."

    2. Glick, Douglas; Applbaum, Kalman (2010-08-17). "Dangerous noncompliance: a narrative analysis of a CNN special investigation of mental illness". Anthropology & Medicine. Vol. 17, no. 2. Routledge. doi:10.1080/13648470.2010.493605. ISSN 1364-8470. Retrieved 2022-05-22 – via Taylor & Francis.

      The abstract notes: "Using the linguistic method of discourse analysis, we analyze one high profile instance – an episode of CNN’s ‘Special Investigations Unit’, which aired several times in the summer of 2007 – to demonstrate a narrative linking of the high social costs and failures associated with noncompliance and, therefore, the imperative of enforcing it for the safety of society. Through the semiotic reduction of a ‘poetic parallelism’, the episode reflects and reinforces existing cultural models for mental illness, including its status as straightforward biological disease amenable to pharmacological therapy but which remains uncontrolled due to widespread noncompliance."

    3. Opuiyo, Alafaka (2007-02-24). "CNN documentary delves into MLK papers". Afro-American Red Star. ProQuest 369701069.

      The article notes: "[former U.N. Ambassador and Atlanta Mayor Andrew] Young was one of many interviewed in the recently aired special, "CNN: Special Investigation Unit, MLK-Words That Changed a Nation." ... In the program, reporter Soledad O'Brien interviewed Young and other colleagues of King including activist Dorothy Cotton, Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) and King's attorney, Clarence Jones. They divulged intimate information about the decisions that were made and key events of the civil rights movement including the Montgomery Bus Boycott, the arrest of Rosa Parks and King's assassination. The documentary also examines King's life through his library of writings and books housed at Morehouse College, his alma mater. James Polk, executive producer of the program, said Morehouse College and the city of Atlanta were very gracious to grant CNN access to the locked vault full of King's handwritten documents."

    4. Jacquette, Dale (2010). "Journalism Ethics as Truth-Telling in the Public Interest". In Allen, Stuart (ed.). The Routledge Companion to News and Journalism. London: Routledge. p. 218. ISBN 978-0-415-46529-8. Retrieved 2022-05-22 – via Google Books.

      The book notes: "To illustrate the problem, we consider a case study involving a recent exclusive report from the CNN Special Investigations Unit by Drew Griffin, Kathleen Johnston and Todd Schwarzschild, titled "Sources: Air Marshals Missing From Almost All Flights". Dated 25 March 2008, and offered both in broadcast and on-line internet formats, the report cites official statistics and anecdotal evidence collected from interviews with both named and anonymous sources about the surprising paucity of armed air marshals accompanying passenger flights in the United States in the wake of terrorist hi-jacked airplane strikes against the World Trace Center in Manhattan and the Pentagon in Washington, DC, on 11 September 2001. Here are some of the report's highlights from the network's website: [quote] This is attention-getting journalism. It touches a nerve for all people who travel by air or have friends and relatives who fly. ... What CNN informs us, and with apparently solid justification, is the startling fact that there are actually very few air marshals aboard US flights."

    5. Haugsted, Linda (2007-01-07). "CNN Forms Investigations Unit". Multichannel News. Archived from the original on 2022-05-22. Retrieved 2022-05-22.

      The article notes: "The episodes will run under the banner CNN: Special Investigations Unit. The series will focus on current pressing issues, and it is designed to complement CNN Presents, ... Special Investigations Unit will include reporters such as Christiane Amanpour, Anderson Cooper, Soledad O'Brien, medical correspondent Sanjay Gupta and correspondents John Roberts, John King, Candy Crowley, Drew Griffin and others. The first episode, The War Within, will be reported by Amanpour."

    6. Walker, Dave (2007-08-28). "CNN, Spike Lee give camcorders to kids to capture life after Katrina". The Times-Picayune. Archived from the original on 2022-05-22. Retrieved 2022-05-22.

      The article notes: "With an assist from filmmaker Spike Lee, CNN's Soledad O'Brien took a chance on some amateurs in hopes of getting fresh perspectives on New Orleans' recovery at K+2. Almost all of the footage for "Children of the Storm," a CNN "Special Investigations Unit" documentary airing at 7 p.m. Wednesday, was shot by New Orleans-area teenagers."

    7. Less significant coverage:
      1. "What's on Tonight". The New York Times. 2007-08-29. ProQuest 2223078937.

        The article notes: "8 P.M. (CNN) CHILDREN OF THE STORM Earlier this year the “American Morning” anchor Soledad O’Brien and the filmmaker Spike Lee gave 11 teenagers in and around New Orleans video cameras to create diaries as they rebuilt their lives after Hurricane Katrina. Their films are at the heart of this episode of “CNN: Special Investigations Unit,” in which the young people, four of whom are shown above with Ms. O’Brien, center, describe their journeys."

      2. Shattuck, Kathryn (2007-09-08). "What's on Tonight". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2022-05-22. Retrieved 2022-05-22.

        The article notes: "8 P.M. (CNN) NARCO STATE In this “CNN: Special Investigations Unit” documentary, Anderson Cooper traces the opium journey from poppy flower to addiction and examines how the drug is pushing Afghanistan into crisis."

      3. Hale, Mike (2007-06-30). "What's on Tonight". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2022-05-22. Retrieved 2022-05-22.

        The article notes: "8 P.M. (CNN) SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS UNIT: BATTLEFIELD BREAKDOWN A report by John King on the costs of the Iraq war, in American lives and money, and the battle readiness of the Army’s active units."

      4. Shattuck, Kathryn (2007-01-20). "What's on Saturday Night". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2022-05-22. Retrieved 2022-05-22.

        The article notes: "8 P.M. (CNN) THE WAR WITHIN Christiane Amanpour, CNN’s chief international correspondent, talks to young people, clerics and Shahid Malik, one of only four Muslim members of the British Parliament, about the cultural conflicts within Muslim communities in Britain and other Western societies, and the influences pushing some toward philosophies of extremism. The documentary inaugurates the network’s new series “CNN: Special Investigations Unit.”"

      5. Uhles, Steven (2007-05-04). "CNN special on Brown offers no new insight". The Augusta Chronicle. Archived from the original on 2022-05-22. Retrieved 2022-05-22.

        The article notes: "With one of the world's most extensive news-gathering organizations at its beck and call, CNN's Special Investigations Unit has chosen to commemorate the birthday of the late James Brown by telling the same old story in the same old way. ... There are a few times when the piece surprises. Although they have nothing new to say, some of the famous faces associated with Brown, but rarely heard from, are given some screen time, including former James Brown bass man Bootsy Collins, biographer Bruce Tucker and Usher, who was taken under the wing of the singer."

      6. "The Week's guide to what's worth watching". The Week. 2015-01-08. Archived from the original on 2022-05-22. Retrieved 2022-05-22.

        The article notes: "CNN Special Investigations Unit: Crime & Corruption As New Orleans attempts to recover from Hurricane Katrina, the city has struggled to overcome the culture of corruption that had become endemic to the Big Easy. Correspondent Soledad O’Brien speaks to the city’s first inspector general about his mission to root out mismanagement, and to prosecutors who are trying to curb the violence that hinders the return of residents, tourists, and business investment. Saturday, Aug. 30, at 8 p.m., CNN"

      7. "Health Notes". Savannah Morning News. 2007-03-12. Archived from the original on 2022-05-22. Retrieved 2022-05-22.

        The article notes: "Residents from Emory University School of Medicine and Morehouse School of Medicine will be featured in a CNN documentary that gives viewers a behind-the-scenes look at the lives of residents at Atlanta's Grady Memorial Hospital. "CNN: Special Investigations Unit - Grady's Anatomy" which follows the lives of three Emory residents and a Morehouse resident, will air at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. March 24 and 25."

      8. Moore, Frazier (2007-06-24). "The skinny on 'Shaq's Big Challenge,' Paula Abdul and the costs of Iraq war". Sarasota Herald-Tribune. Associated Press. Archived from the original on 2022-05-22. Retrieved 2022-05-22.

        The article notes: "Now a CNN Special Investigations Unit documentary examines the unexpected consequences of this protracted war. On "Battlefield Breakdown," CNN correspondent John King reports that nearly two-thirds of the U.S. Army's 42 active brigades are rated unable to perform due to shortages of manpower and equipment, including armored vehicles, lithium batteries, even water. And he reports that, early on, the Pentagon resisted Congressional efforts to add more armored vehicles, perhaps mistakenly believing the war wouldn't last long enough to warrant the investment. "Battlefield Breakdown" premieres Saturday at 8 p.m."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow CNN: Special Investigations Unit to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 09:18, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 14:36, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sannyasi Deshonayok[edit]

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WP:TOOSOON. Appears to fail notability requirements for future films WP:NFF. Should be deleted or moved to draft until release. DonaldD23 talk to me 12:10, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Nomination and comment above sum it up. I concur. -- 2pou (talk) 20:49, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 14:14, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

United States girls' national under-16 soccer team[edit]

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Non-notable youth team, all substantive sources I found were from US Soccer so it lacks independent coverage. Reywas92Talk 13:20, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete no evidence the team passes WP:GNG, only sources I can see are primary sources from US Soccer. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:26, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:25, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Drew Russell[edit]

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PROD Does not meet criteria in WP:SPORTBASIC. Simply a player. was declined removing deletion request as has played loads of professional games so meets football player notability. As we know from the metric ton of sports AfDs, that's no longer a notability criteria and I am unable to identify coverage that would meet GNG requirements. Just some game reports. Note when searching, it does not appear the sports exec is the same Drew Russsell. With appearances for multiple teams, there isn't a clear AtD target either. Star Mississippi 13:17, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment just dropped a note at HELP Desk as I have no idea what broke this, and changing brackets to ital didn't help. Star Mississippi 13:20, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • This appears to be SIGCOV. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:40, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – There just aint no "significant" coverage that shows Russell having "success in a major international competition at the highest level". – S. Rich (talk) 18:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Where does it say someone has to have "success in a major international competition at the highest level" to be notable? BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:04, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      "Success" supports notability – if it's there. But we have no indication of success at any level. – S. Rich (talk) 16:45, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete there is clearly not enough coverage here to meet GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:27, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - The only in-depth coverage I could find was from the The Gazette (Cedar Rapids, Iowa) (the link is now included in the article), which is partly an interview and seems to be very local coverage (it's his home town's local newspaper). In order to pass WP:GNG we would certainly need something else, but all I can find are statistics database entries, match reports, transfer announcements and youth coaching advertisements (nothing that would be SIGCOV). Jogurney (talk) 16:23, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 07:02, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Military patrol at the 1924 Winter Olympics with the history underneath it, should someone find access to book sources with which to flesh this out. Star Mississippi 03:05, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stanisław Kądziołka[edit]

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Kądziołka not only did not win a medal (as part of a team) in the Olympics, his team did not even finish the competition they were in. So that really is not at all a sign of notability. It is also not a good sing when he is Polish, but the Polish Wikipedia article has one source, the same in English sports reference source used here. Olympedia has an entry with no text just sports tables. A search in google books came up with this name, but it was about a person born about 1920 who was being mentioned because as a schoolboy he was friends with someone who became an international leader. So this is not a good redirect target because most extant sourcing is about a totally different person who just happened to have the same name. John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:51, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: He was obviously a national athlete. The fact there are few digital references to him yet, doesn’t mean there aren’t many published written ones. Wikipedia is want to forget that Books still exist. If the project had deleted every unreferenced stub in its early days, half the best pages would never have been written. Who knows how this page may be expanded in the future - give it a chance. Giano (talk) 14:57, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:26, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cari Guittard[edit]

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Lacks independent sources, so she doesn't satisfy WP:BIO. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:34, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 02:41, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Torture in Ukraine[edit]

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Reason: Misleading; written in present tense, cites references from 2001 ie before the revolution. Actions in "eastern Ukraine" may be committed by Russian or Russian-backed troops Elinruby (talk) 11:44, 17 May 2022 (UTC) Adding: topic itself may possibly notable but this article does not support that. Elinruby (talk) 12:01, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete appears to be created by a WP:SPA who's entire wikipedia history appears to be connected to the recent war in Ukraine. The complete focus on alleged misbehaviour of one side of the conflict, and the absence of mention on the other side (despite widespread reporting) make me think this article exists to push a point of view. I note WP:POV CT55555 (talk) 12:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Convincing arguments for keep here, withdrawing my delete vote. CT55555 (talk) 19:00, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep Seems well-sourced. I mean it's going to be one-sided, there isn't really a happy side to this sort of thing. Oaktree b (talk) 16:29, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I believe that the vast majority of countries have some history of torture, including my country. We even have several articles on torture from several countries. According to WP:DEL-CONTENT, "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page. Vandalism to a page's content can be reverted by any user." Furthermore, the article is referenced. Whether they were acts committed by Russians or not is something that can be added to the article, as long as they are referenced with a reliable source. ✍A.WagnerC (talk) 16:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    You make a good point. I'm reconsidering my delete above...I may change it...let's see what others say...currently I'm more open minded. CT55555 (talk) 16:55, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - per Wagners rationale. Per good sourcing. Improvements could be made of course, but overall a good article. BabbaQ (talk) 17:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Blow it up and start over As nom. There are some current allegations that Amnesty and HRW take seriously. Well, one that I am aware of, and I don't exclude the possibility of others, which is why I said that the topic might be notable. But the article should confine itself to torture if any by the government or armed forces of the current non-Soviet government, ie since 2014, with perhaps a background section on abuses of the prior Soviet puppet regime. But this misrepresentation of actions under Soviet control in 2001 as part of the current government's record should not sit around in the meantime waiting for somebody to maybe one day fix it. Elinruby (talk) 08:01, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but Rewrite per Wagner. I think the topic is notable enough to keep, but the article needs a lot of improvement. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 15:20, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep  This is a notable and timely subject, and there is much more material available to satisfy WP:GNG and balance this article (re: occupied Crimea, Donbas “republics,” and in current war zones, occupied territories, and Russian concentration camps). —Michael Z. 18:55, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but rewrite - Wagner makes a good argument; the topic is certainly noteworthy enough for inclusion, but in line with several of the other comments here, this does feel like a bit of a WP:TNT situation. Sleddog116 (talk) 13:34, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request undeletion of these articles. I concur with Joe Roe, but no one is contesting the deletion after another week. Star Mississippi 02:38, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Linde Nijland[edit]

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I came across the page Linde Nijland as I was originally going to propose merging the page Ygdrassil (musical group) into it. However, I cannot find significant coverage for Nijland or her musical duo to satisfy the criteria at WP:NMUSIC, so I'm proposing that both be deleted. There's simply no media coverage, no reviews, no chart success, no releases on major record labels. The options are

  1. delete both
  2. keep Linde Nijland and make Ygdrassil a redirect
  3. keep Ygdrassil and make Linde Nijland a redirect
  4. keep both.
    ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 17:02, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Very sparse coverage and sources, as the AfD proposal says; might be somewhat more notable for the Dutch Wikipedia but not for English Wikipedia. Amadeus22 🙋 🔔 18:45, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment for what it's worth, I favour deleting both. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 17:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. I understand the redirect was challenged (courtesy @Liz:) so I won't restore it, but rather treating this as an expired PROD as there is no one challenging the nomination based on information that currently exists. Star Mississippi 02:21, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Islam in Bhutan[edit]

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there is not enough material to justify a standalone page; probably because the subject is not notable. no sources other than some collections of estimates and vague numbers from sources that aggregate these statistics were found on a WP:BEFORE search. an attempt to redirect it to Religion in Bhutan was reverted. TryKid[dubious – discuss] 05:27, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Nations with Islam have a page on them relating to the nation and the muslims, so if any event or somthing relating to islam in bhutan occerrs in can be added here. Affiliating (talk) 17:29, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 10:50, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of people on the postage stamps of Benin[edit]

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Fails WP:LISTN. For some reason stops in 1969, and despite the claim of being complete until then, it misses e.g. Pierre and Marie Curie (1938) and Churchill, Lincoln and Kennedy (1965). Not improved since 2010, and was viewed by 9 people in the last 90 days, so not a topic of interest for our readers either. Fram (talk) 10:46, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete No WP:RS, one view every ten days, Incomplete list, incredibly obscure topic, and an empty section. In addition to seeming to violate WP:N Googleguy007 (talk) 13:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I'm not sure why you would even create an article in the first place that was already 40 years out of date. Reywas92Talk 13:43, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete we really need to cut back of philatelycruft in Wikipedia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:17, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • To be frank, it needs to be stamped out per LISTN. Lack of viewers and being out-of-date, however, are not valid rationales. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:59, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I agree with what John Pack Lambert says above. I would like to see all of these examples of philatelycruft deleted. The information in this example could perfectly well be included as a subsection in the article on Benin if it were thought to be worth listing at all. Athel cb (talk) 07:10, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. whether or not lists of planets exist,there is consensus against this one. Star Mississippi 02:18, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of Comunal Documents of Santa Margherita Ligure[edit]

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I have no idea at all what the actual purpose of this article is. A municipality of less than 10,000 inhabitants has a number of official documents available for inhabitants, just like most other communities in the world. Why it would be a good idea to have an article that informs us that Santa Margherita Ligure has an "Application for household allowance 2022", a "Request form 1 hour in Blue zone for residents only" or a "Specification for home composting" is unclear. If you need a formal reason, total lack of notability. Fram (talk) 09:57, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see concerns over the purpose of an article like this however I firmly believe that wikipedia articles warrant more detail and with both Santa Margherita Ligure and Contern I’m attempting to sort of set an example if you will. Of the absolute maximum which isn’t excessive. I also am quite certain that this isn’t excessive as there are many communes which have various documents but Santa Margherita Ligure has a lot more than anywhere else ive seen and also has far more variety. Additionally the town is more than a town of 100000 it has a rich history, intricate and sceneic geography, a large tourism industry and is famous amongst many parts of italy unlike most other towns of 10000. Therefore it warrants more détail generally which I feel includes the list of documents. I would make it a part of the main article but there is simple too many of them. This is a necessary step in the expansion of the article of the original town. Also due to the intricate geography and large ammounts of tourism in the town. Most documents are more notable as they often refer to road closures, beach closure and what can affect a larger number of people. Finally Wikipedia is no stranger to lists like this, I’m trying to take a step to make wikipedia more detailed when it comes to municipalities and towns. Sure it might be the tinyest bit excessive but Wikipedia changes and also the larger this article is, the more people will be detered into expanding other articles on the site N1TH Music (talk) 12:31, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Most of what you claim is WP:OR and generally misguided, but I guess others will chime in here and set you straight. I just wondered about your claim "Wikipedia is no stranger to lists like this", as I have never seen a list ecven remotely comparable to this one. Fram (talk) 12:47, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Can people who comment here please also look at this? Ignoring the potential copyvio issues (straight translations of the community website), someone needs to explain to N1th Music why this doesn't belong in an encyclopedia... Fram (talk) 13:06, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what you mean by straight translations I'm not taking an entire page and translating it I only use one part and always make changes. I know well also what Original Research is and I can see quite clearly that I cited many sources which you literally just accused me of completely copying. ""Wikipedia is no stranger to lists like this", as I have never seen a list even remotely comparable to this one." The ISO lists although more notable are just like this. A long list of similar Items most of which don't have their own article, with plenty of references and small descriptions. I'm refereing to the lists with the larger numbers. Those article were one of the main reasons I thought this was Notable N1TH Music (talk) 15:43, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ISO lists are standards which are used worldwide, not documents used in one village... Fram (talk) 17:54, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am aware but there's 100,000 of those 90% of which are nomore notable to an ordinary individual than some of the documents there will be here if I'm able to complete the article N1TH Music (talk) 18:28, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate depository of anything, particularly communal documents. Jacona (talk) 18:57, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Then what about the lists of minor planets they're no more useful than this (at least if I'm able to actually complete the article) and there's over 600 of those articles. Some of them are a list of 1000 planets, 0 of which have enough information to warrant an article about them in particular, 0 of them have even been photographed and 0 of them have even been named and 0 of them affect anyone (even hardcore space fans) at all. On the other hand this article (once finished) is to be a complete list of every document some of which have had decent affects on the town. Such as the regulations and the ordinances. They have had an effect on some of the 10,000 residents and sometimes on some of the several thousand tourists which visit the commune. N1TH Music (talk) 14:47, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    sounds like it would be excellent for the commune’s website.Jacona (talk) 15:25, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The Individual files are there but there's no complete list. Also you didn't address the existence of the Minor Planet lists. Also many people I know refer to wikipedia for basically anything. I still firmly believe that a mere list of all the documents with references for people who want details is notable and useful. Also the commune's website is in Italian N1TH Music (talk) 16:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. North America1000 13:25, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1998–99 Willem II season[edit]

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No evidence of notability and abandoned article. Sakiv (talk) 09:22, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per norm. --Vaco98 (talk) 10:02, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment Hang on a minute. Yes, the article is abandoned. However, I find it very hard to believe there are no good sources out there for this season. It's about a season in the Dutch first tier and the club, Willem II, achieved second place, an exceptional achievement considering the usual dominance of Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord. WP:GDBN states: "Before nominating an article for Articles for deletion (AfD), please: […] You must look for, and demonstrate that you couldn't find, any independent sources of sufficient depth." I see no evidence here that Sakiv performed the necessary research per WP:BEFORE. Robby.is.on (talk) 15:32, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Robby.is.on: Why do you always want to lecture in every discussion?--Sakiv (talk) 15:42, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Sakiv: WP:NPA: "Comment on content, not on the contributor" WP:BEFORE is AfD 101. Unfortunately, this is the second nomination from you where I don't see evidence you performed WP:BEFORE. Robby.is.on (talk) 15:46, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Robby.is.on: The second time? You are the one who comments on the editor, not on the content. The article does not meet the criteria for encyclopedic articles.--Sakiv (talk) 15:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Tell me where I'm wrong. Is WP:BEFORE not required? Or did you in fact search for sources? I find it very implausible to assume there aren't any sources – for the reasons I gave above. Robby.is.on (talk) 16:11, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment These sources attest to the fact that the 1998–99 season was an exceptional one for Willem II: [21] ("in the 1998/'99 season Willem II achieved the almost unbelievable"), [22] ("However, Willem II's most successful season is still 1998/99. Led by Adriaanse, the players from Brabant were the big surprise of the Eredivisie by finishing in second place. […] Due to the second place, Willem II was allowed to participate in the Champions League for the first time in club history a year later"), [23]. [24] refers to it as "so glorious for Willem II". I'm sure people with access to offline sources can easily find enough to demonstrate notability. Robby.is.on (talk) 16:32, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What's the point of all this if the article lacks the minimum valid article criteria and is no more than 3000 bytes in size. Such article for deletion discussions is not a way to clean up or develop any article Wikipedia:AFDISNOTCLEANUP.--Sakiv (talk) 16:37, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep per Robby's sources. GiantSnowman 18:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment What is the difference between this discussion and this AFD? Plus Robby brought in Dutch sources only.--Sakiv (talk) 19:03, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Dutch sources are fine. GiantSnowman 19:13, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This article has been in poor condition for 9 years.--Sakiv (talk) 19:17, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
An article needing improvement is not a reason to delete. GiantSnowman 20:54, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
So we shouldn't delete any season article just because it needs some improvement. Btw the unreferenced template has also been there for 9 years.--Sakiv (talk) 20:57, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, I don't see the point of this AfD. An article needing improvement doesn't mean it should be outright deleted. Nehme1499 11:19, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - "no evidence of notability" is clearly untrue, as the article indicates that the team finished in second place in the highest level of football in the Netherlands, a major footballing nation, which is obviously a massive claim to notability, plus being abandoned is not a valid reason for deletion -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:53, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment same arguments over and over again. The article is in poor shape and that is a valid reason in itself.--Sakiv (talk) 13:56, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, it is not a valid reason. WP:RUBBISH "if an article is so bad that it is harmful in its current state, then deleting now, and possibly recreating it later, remains an option." The article is short but clearly not "harmful". Robby.is.on (talk) 14:08, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The creator Imlikeaboss has a history of created articles that he does not work on after creating them. He makes merely one edit and does not return to it. I am never required to do the steps you mentioned, Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_compulsory. I do not want AfD to turn into an arena of debate between you and me. This is the second time that you are trying to express an opinion that is the opposite of what I am putting forward in hundreds of bytes.--Sakiv (talk) 14:14, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nobody forces AfD nominations on you, they are indeed not compulsory. If you want to nominate articles for deletion, however, you need to follow standard WP:BEFORE procedures. Robby.is.on (talk) 14:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I've expanded the article with the articles I linked to above. There should be plenty of offline sources also. The season is very clearly notable. Robby.is.on (talk) 14:43, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep Willem's season is certainly significant. I'm glad it this AfD has brought the article's attention to editors which have improved the article to being good enough. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 15:28, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per reasons above. Kante4 (talk) 17:25, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep There is plenty of room to improve the article even more than it is now. Thanks to Robby.is.on for the updates. Season articles do need to built more on prose than statistics, but hey, I really don't see much wrong here and there appears to source out there to improve this. Govvy (talk) 19:56, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Does not look abandoned to me. Not at all. Plus WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. WP:SNOW also applies. gidonb (talk) 10:45, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep No evidence of notability? Since when has finishing second in the Eredivisie and setting a club record for best result been taken as lack on notability? REDMAN 2019 (talk) 18:29, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep another ridiculous deletion nom, amongst dozens of others.--Ortizesp (talk) 17:31, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. plicit 03:33, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mujahidul Islam Selim[edit]

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Non-notable VP of a Bangladeshi University. All references are primary. Article does not meet WP:NBIO Whiteguru (talk) 08:50, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep long-time CPB leader, political prisoner; frequent, multi-year appearances in the Bangladeshi press (English and Bangla). Passes the GNG. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 12:17, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The cited sources (5 interviews without independent analysis and 2 photo captions) are, as the nominator says, primary, and lack the combination of independence and depth necessary to demonstrate notability. Sources better suited to demonstrating notability do exist, however, and could be mined for content.[25][26] --Worldbruce (talk) 03:50, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep Former President and General Secretary of the Communist Party of Bangladesh. A national politician who has received widespread coverage in reliable mainstream news organizations. The nominator is misunderstanding the topic. He is not the vice president of some university. When he was a student he was the Vice President of Dhaka University Central Students' Union. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 05:35, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 10:54, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of wars in fiction[edit]

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This seems like a totally unreferenced fork of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/War in popular culture. The argument I used there applies here in its entirety: "Arguably, a very interesting topic. Possibly notable (ex. the existence of works like [27]), but not in this WP:TNTable form of a completely unreferenced TVtropic listcruft aka List of all media that mention the topic of war (the lead even admits the goal: "The following is a list of pop culture references to war."). Like all similar articles (ex. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United States Navy SEALs in popular culture), it fails numerous policies, guidelines and like: as an 'in popular culture' article, WP:IPC and MOS:POPCULT/TRIVIA, as a list, WP:NLIST and WP:SALAT, as a potential topic, WP:GNG and WP:INDISCRIMINATE, due to lack of references, WP:OR and WP:V. That's what TV Tropes is for, folks. Or https://military-history.fandom.com". I'll also ping editors who commended so far at that other AfD: @Reywas92, Rorshacma, Daranios, Johnpacklambert, TenPoundHammer, and Kierzek: @Zxcvbnm, Azuredivay, Intothatdarkness, Georgethedragonslayer, Shooterwalker, and Jclemens: Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:44, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Pure example farm with no actual encyclopedic value. Wikipedia isn't TV Tropes, etc. Fails WP:NLIST. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 08:46, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not an encyclopedic list, cumbersome format, and "Wars in a fantasy setting" has poorly-defined inclusion criteria. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 09:25, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is a list that does not have adequate sourcing and is otherwise not justified. If the wars are important to works we can mention them there. I was actually expecting this to list real wars and what fiction had them, but thinking about that, I am sure there are way too many cases of fiction set in WWI, WWII and the American Civil War among others to ever list, especially since sometimes the war is an incidental ackground detail.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:10, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete In addition to being poorly sourced this list is unencyclopedic. I agree with Johnpacklambert that this article is not justified and thatfictional wars can simply be included in the pages for the works they are referenced in Googleguy007 (talk) 13:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Completely unsourced list of trivia. There is not a single bit of prose text discussing the overall concept, and nearly all of the examples listed are not notable at all. Rorshacma (talk) 14:55, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, unsourced, unverifiable, indiscriminate. Exactly why I wrote WP:NOTTVTROPES. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 15:16, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Deleteper nom and others. Seems pointless to me.Intothatdarkness 22:35, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as indiscriminately large and vague, which is something that is WP:NOT appropriate for Wikipedia. The proper encyclopedic treatment for this topic can be seen in War film or War novel, which doesn't try to capture every single instance of violence in every single work of fiction ever made, but covers the notable aspects of the topic with proper analysis and context. Shooterwalker (talk) 02:05, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete No need of a broad article because Category:Wars in fiction is certainly enough. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 21:43, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Same as my explanation at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/War in popular culture. Georgethedragonslayer (talk) 14:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Consensus is clear at this point, after extended time for discussion, and there is no reason to anticipate that relisting will yield a substantially different result. This close in no way forecloses proposals to merge other content into this material, or to merge this article elsewhere. BD2412 T 05:55, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spin-up[edit]

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PRODded by Zxcvbnm (talk · contribs) on concerns that this is largely WP:DICDEF-level material and WP:OR, and fails WP:GNG. I have reason to believe that this is the case, but it was deprodded by Lurking shadow (talk · contribs), who asserted, without further justification, This isn't PROD material. Some content is also about specific products, failing WP:IINFO. Note that some sources also spell it spin up or spinup.

The first source is a manual for a Western Digital product that mentions spin-up only in passing. The second is effectively an informative advertisement from Fujitsu, and is not WP:RS.

Power-up in standby was proposed for merger in September 2014 by Petr Matas (talk · contribs), but no merge discussion was opened and the tag was removed in July 2017 by Klbrain (talk · contribs). –LaundryPizza03 (d) 08:26, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

are just two sources I found here.Lurking shadow (talk) 09:30, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That still does not prove that the article will result in anything other than a dictionary definition. I do not see the significant coverage related to hard drives spinning up, in particular, only the term used in random contexts. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 10:10, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This might be relevant, but I can't access it. Lurking shadow (talk) 11:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge Spin-up and Power-up in standby into Hard disk drive and remove excessive detail. Some parts of the text are well written, so we should not throw away its history. Petr Matas 10:57, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Since it is entirely WP:OR or unreliable sources, there is nothing to merge. Regardless of its writing quality, it would need to be 100% rewritten and cited to a reliable source anyway. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 21:27, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or merge. I rewrote the SSU section and added several reliable references, which were easy enough to find. This is something designers of storage systems with dozens of drives need to consider. Similarly, there are many articles [30] [31] on spin-up and spin-down algorithms and hard drive power management. It seems there is more than enough sourcing out there to support notability of the topic per WP:GNG and thus keeping the article. In the interest of consensus, I would not be opposed to a merge to provide better context. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 09:26, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep given the improvements (and evidence of further scope). Klbrain (talk) 20:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    "Improvements" to what exactly? Right now the added content violates WP:INDISCRIMINATE - it gives zero context for being there. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 21:05, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Meets WP:GNG and the article is no longer just a WP:DICDEF. Everything else can be addressed without deletion.Lurking shadow (talk) 19:24, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Looking at the citations presented it does now meet WP:GNG and ought to be kept. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 10:21, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 14:38, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Burnin' Rubber (series)[edit]

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Makes no attempt to demonstrate notability, nor could I find WP:RS mentioning either the series or any of its games. Appears to fail WP:GNG. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 08:19, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 13:13, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DirectDL[edit]

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Rejected at AFC but moved here by creator, so here we are with a non notable topic. Theroadislong (talk) 07:43, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

hello Theroadislong. after add some new references, and link the article to the other Wikipedia language, why the article should deleted? E V I L044 (talk) 08:08, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. There's just no significant independent coverage of this tool from reliable sources. The Medium link is user-generated, the Gizmodo article is not actually about DirectDL, and none of the Persian- or Arabic-language sources currently cited are reliable. I also did a BEFORE-style search for further references and found nothing of value. /wiae /tlk 12:25, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete non-notable promotion with no significant coverage in any RS. KylieTastic (talk) 19:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 14:40, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dooh Moukoko[edit]

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Subject fails WP:SPORTCRIT due to lack of significant coverage. A search per WP:BEFORE did not turn up any significant coverage, just trivial mentions 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 06:33, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 14:40, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rostand Kako[edit]

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Subject fails WP:SPORTCRIT due to lack of significant coverage. A search per WP:BEFORE did not turn up any significant coverage. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 06:29, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - Article appears to fail WP:GNG as online sources consist of trivial/routine coverage (this is the most "in-depth" coverage I could find). Jogurney (talk) 14:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 18:56, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The article [32] calls him the "standard bearer of the best team in Cameroon for the past fifteen years", and mentions his "great season in Côte d'Ivoire", which indicates notability. Also, the search [33] gives dozens of results, including two whole pages dedicated to him and his suspension for corruption. EternalNomad (talk) 05:07, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Interviews lacking substantial independent commentary do not count towards GNG, and being described favorably is not a notability criterion either. Routine game recaps, in an outlet that seems to give play-by-plays of every Cameroonian match, are also not eligible for GNG. I looked through all 7 pages of hits for Kako on camfoot and not a single one offered significant coverage, including those reporting on the handful of players nabbed for rigging a match. JoelleJay (talk) 02:16, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. While we have a language issue and a BLP, consensus is sufficient sources exist. Star Mississippi 02:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ireneusz Golda[edit]

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This individual doesn't seem to pass WP:GNG. No Olympic medals, only competed in one particular Games in 1980. Feels like doesn't meet GNG. SPF121188 (talk this way) (contribs) 17:42, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep a quick look at the Polish wiki article shows that this person was a three-time national champion in the hammer throw, along with winning two silvers and three bronze medals. He's also won two bronze medals at the European Cup. So based on that, he should meet WP:NATH points 1, 2 and 4. My Polish is pretty much non-existent, but a quick search found this and this. I'll drop a note at the Polish WP to see if anyone can locate other sources. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:03, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Lugnuts, based on their winning medals at the European Cup, that does seem sufficient, and I somehow couldn't find that in a before search. In another day or so if there are no !votes to delete, I'll withdraw and just note that the article desperately needs expansion. Thanks! SPF121188 (talk this way) (contribs) 18:10, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Spf! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:31, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment, the Polish wiki has a bibliography section that lists a few things that may have SIGCOV (listed below):
    • Zbigniew Łojewski, Tadeusz Wołejko: Osiągnięcia Polskiej Lekkiej Atletyki w 40-leciu PRL. Mecze Międzypaństwowe I Reprezentacji Polski seniorów - mężczyźni. Warszawa: Komisja Statystyczna PZLA, 1984.
    • Henryk Kurzyński, Stefan Pietkiewicz, Janusz Rozum, Tadeusz Wołejko: Historia Finałów Lekkoatletycznych Mistrzostw Polski 1920-2007. Konkurencje męskie. Szczecin - Warszawa: Komisja Statystyczna PZLA, 2008. ISBN 978-83-61233-20-6.
    • Biuletyn Polskiego Związku Lekkiej Atletyki. Warszawa: 1999.
  • Does anyone know how to access these? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:59, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment I've asked at WP:POLAND whether anyone can access/verify these sources. It would be good to wait and see if we can get a response to this before closing this AFD, if possible. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:54, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Joseph2302 Sigh, going to the library is not my thing these days. GBooks also suggests he may have an entry in the otherwise non-viewable work here: Polscy olimpijczycy: 1924-1984 : leksykon. I also found an entry about him on the pages of the Polish Olympic Committee here. It has a sources section. While I am hardly a friend of sport biographies, I think he is likely notable. Keep for me. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:54, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 06:15, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Salif Ali Inoua[edit]

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Subject fails WP:SPORTCRIT due to lack of significant coverage. A search per WP:BEFORE did not turn up any significant coverage. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 06:10, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 06:14, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Landry Kamwa[edit]

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Subject fails WP:SPORTCRIT due to lack of significant coverage. A search per WP:BEFORE did not turn up any significant coverage. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 05:59, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 14:42, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Christian Intsoen[edit]

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Subject fails WP:SPORTCRIT due to lack of significant coverage. A search per WP:BEFORE did not turn up any significant coverage. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 05:39, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 04:05, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Staunton[edit]

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Subject fails WP:SPORTCRIT due to lack of significant coverage. This (1) is the best I could find. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 05:01, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. plicit 14:42, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vigo Thieves[edit]

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The article appears to have been created solely for promotional purposes and have very few reliable sources to back the statements made in the article, and from my personal research, not a lot are available.

Per WP:NBAND, the band has had no charting singles or albums, has never been signed to a major label, and also appears to no longer be active, so it's likely that no notability will be established over time. Magatta (talk) 17:07, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Landfill cruft, representative of an institutional bias. They certainly haven't reached the level of notability required for a Wikipedia article, even if they might very well have done so had they existed around 2006/07. RobinCarmody (talk) 19:13, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. plicit 11:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lime Financial[edit]

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i can't find anything in depth about any iteration of this company - it all appears to be average business announcements/acquisitions/parroted press releases and as it stands now, our entire article is basically just a press release as well. PRAXIDICAE💕 19:30, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I added reference links to multiple outside sources, such as Traders Magazine, Business Insider, and NYSE Floor Talk. It's an established fintech company with a 10-year history that is looking to expand. Therefore, it is noteworthy. Tmanderson77 (talk) 14:34, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment: Adding alternative findsources above for prior names under which this was operating until 2 months ago. AllyD (talk) 08:09, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: An article on a company, listing various consolidations, appointments and rebrandings, all of which as references fall under trivial coverage at WP:CORPDEPTH. A company going about its business but, despite what is suggested above, that is insufficient to establish notability here. AllyD (talk) 08:59, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:30, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spin up[edit]

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PRODded by Zxcvbnm (talk · contribs), who noted the lack of sources that claime dthat it fails WP:GNG. Deproded by Spinningspark (talk · contribs), who claimed (without improving the article) that this is definitely a thing seen in numerous martial arts films and provided an external link about the technique. However, neither the source the deprodder provided nor the existing external link in the article seem to be RS, and my search engine results offer no further sources about the technique under this name.

The disambiguation page Spin up (disambiguation) will need to be moved to the base title, even if this article is kept, since there is no primary topic. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 03:32, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 14:44, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Morgan Doll Museum[edit]

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WP: ORG, looks to be closed now Happyecheveria (talk) 03:13, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete enither of the sources are even remotely close to being the level of sources we would need multiple of to show an organization is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:13, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Here TV#Programming as an WP:ATD. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 (ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 02:50, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Ben and Dave Show[edit]

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Non-notable podcast. Current sources barely mention it. Only lasted six episodes. Tagged for notability and sources. Prod contested in September. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 02:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, couldn't find any additional sources to support notability. The status quo article really seems to have scraped the barrel. The whole prose about the show in the Entertainment Weekly source is "Like catty chat? Dig well-matched duos? Love Ryan and Simon's banter on Idol, but just wish it was rues macho? You're in luck". The solo paragraph in the Blade means the Gazette is the only in-depth source. My search in TWL and Google News also turned up strictly passing mentions in HX Magazine, GoLocalProv, and AndroidKosmos; that's it. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:18, 18 May 2022 (UTC) striking 02:48, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Firefangledfeathers (talk · contribs), would you a support a merge to Here TV#Programming? Cunard (talk) 08:45, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Call me neutral on a merge for now. I gave the Gazette source another look and I take back my "in-depth" assessment. Since the coverage is all from the debut of the show, I'm not sure we could even reliably verify the number of episodes or that it was canceled. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:05, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/redirect to Here TV#Programming per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. I did not find significant coverage in reliable sources about the subject. The best source I found that was not already in the Wikipedia article was:
    1. Avery, Dan (2008). "Got It Made". HX Magazine. No. 862. p. 58. ISSN 1524-0339. EBSCOhost 31442746.

      The article notes: "If you were watching two well-groomed hosts on here! TV talking about closeted celebrities and CorbinFisher.com, you’d assume they were gay, right? Yes, ben harvey and dave Rubin of The Ben and Dave Show are indeed queer. But the cute two-some (who have an easy, almost brotherly on-air rapport) give a new definition to “straight-acting.” Give your gaydar a workout when the show premieres on Friday, March 14."

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The result was delete. Star Mississippi 17:46, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ruhaan Rajput[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:ACTOR or WP:GNG. The references all appear to be paid puff pieces, and he still hasn't had a major role in a notable film or video since the last AFD in September 2021. I don't see any significant coverage of him online in reliable sources since then, just some more puff pieces for a lead role in a science fiction show which doesn't seem to have materialised yet. Storchy (talk) 14:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - per nom, a vanity page sourced to puff pieces.-KH-1 (talk) 06:10, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request undeletion of these articles. plicit 14:45, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League players[edit]

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Listcruft. This is the main page for a list of players who have played in a semi-professional basketball league in the Philippines, most of whom are redlinked. No sourcing, and I assume verifiability is going to be a nightmare......and that's assuming that a list of players who played in a sports league is inherently notable, which it isn't.

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are the branches which actually contain the contents of the list which is being discussed:

List of Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League players (A–E) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League players (F–J) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League players (K–O) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League players (P–T) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League players (U–Z) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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  • Delete all per failing WP:NLIST. Do note that some of the linked players did became professional basketball players. However, said career development came after being in the league and does not, in itself, support the notability of these lists. --Lenticel (talk) 00:58, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Leukemia & Lymphoma Society. this could be closed as no consensus, but really we don't even have a strong nomination nor !vote to delete, since both were countered by the sources provided. Merger is a viable AtD and it makes sense to cover an event within the organizer's article when there isn't a size issue. Star Mississippi 01:03, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Light the Night Walk[edit]

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There may be two official websites (including one from Australia) and a Flickr page. But other than that, there seems to be no reliable sources for this event. Pahiy (talk) 03:20, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment – A great number of sources are available by selecting the Google News link above. The depth of coverage varies among them. North America1000 08:35, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete no one has stepped up to the plate to prove that any sources exist. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 02:46, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Leukemia & Lymphoma Society, where this is barely mentioned. It's arguable that overall, the topic may meet WP:GNG and point #1 of WP:EVENTCRIT, although perhaps on a weaker level. Some sources are listed below; more in addition to these are easily and readily available. Some of the sources listed below contain some interview content, but also contain relatively in-depth, non-interview coverage, to varying degrees. North America1000 03:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Modussiccandi (talk) 08:09, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nikola Tsolov[edit]

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I believe the article meet the WP:N criteria, due to the significant coverage from Bulgarian media about the driver. I would add more sources if needed, but I believe the current ones were enough to cover the article.Chris Calvin (talk) 10:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC) Note to closing admin: Chris Calvin (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]

  • Draftify - He is currently not in a high enough category in motorsport to meet WP:NSPORT, but within a couple of years he likely will be.User:DRYT.Motorsport (talk) 12:55, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Considering his achievements in karting alone, he clearly meets the criteria, there are hundreds of less talented people in sports or in the arts who are covered in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IntelligereOmnia (talk • contribs) 13:20, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • He absolutely does not. His karting career is not particularly unique or impressive, and it certainly doesn't carry any inherent notability. 5225C (talk • contributions) 02:28, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Most of these seem quite routine. I'm not familiar enough with Bulgarian sources to consider their reliability or reach, but I would be hesitant to say all of these are signficant. Formula Scout especially, in AfD discussions on junior drivers we tend not to place much weight on their work because of the niche nature of the publication. 5225C (talk • contributions) 02:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • 5225C I'm struggling to see how most of these are routine (and if we throw out Formula Scout out of the equation for being "niche"). Like WP:ROUTINE says, "routine news coverage of such things as announcements are not sufficient basis for an article.". None of them are and I specifically avoided those in my searches, as there's lots of copy-paste article about his F4 signing to Campos + his F4 win/race reports. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 07:08, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Why are you nominating an article that you created yourself? Your rationale sounds more like an argument towards keep than towards deletion. MSport1005 (talk) 20:33, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
MSport1005 A bizarre situation, but the one who initated this AFD is actually DRTY.Motorsport who put the AFD template on onto the article but left the nomination page blank [41]. The creator/Chris Calvin mistakenly stepped in and created the nomination page defending the article. Their comments should be watched over in reverse by the closing admin. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 20:41, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Jovanmilic97 Yeah I’m sorry that I added the template and didn’t create the page, I had a sudden real-life commitment whilst creating the discussion page and when I came back to this the page had been created, I apologise for this. DRYT.Motorsport (talk) 21:02, 2 May 2022 UTC
In the future you can use Wikipedia:Twinkle to do it automatically. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 12:17, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – I won't cast a vote because I'm unsure how to consider Jovanmilic97's sources, but if set those aside this would be a fairly routine delete !vote. F4 drivers don't really have a credible claim to significance and the sourcing as it stands is very lacklustre. I will take another look when I have more time. 5225C (talk • contributions) 02:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - I'm very sceptical with all the F4 driver articles being created over the last few weeks, but looking at the sources provided by Jovanmilic97 I'm leaning towards keep on the grounds of WP:GNG. He obviously does not meet WP:NMOTORSPORT yet, although his status as an Alpine affiliate and Alonso protégé seems to have put him well within the spotlight recently. Contrary to what 5225C said, Tsolov was a beast in karting and his WP:POTENTIAL to meet NMOTORSPORT in the near future is big. MSport1005 (talk) 11:28, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not just F4 where this is a problem, but on the NASCAR side as well; a lot of recent creations of lower-ladder drivers which aren't very good. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 17:43, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh yes, I have noticed an increase in the number of Nascar AfD's lately... Don't really have a firm opinion in that sense though as I don't follow Nascar. MSport1005 (talk) 09:53, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep. The English references seem to be mostly WP:ROUTINE, but the Bulgarian news sources seem to cover him in a more direct manner. I believe that his coverage in multiple different Bulgarian news sources that are seemingly not affiliated with motorsport is enough to be WP:SIGCOV. Additionally, since he is so young, there is no doubt of potential. If he happens to fizzle out, this discussion could maybe be revisited. ~XyNqtc 17:31, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. plicit 03:35, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mana (Anglo-Saxon)[edit]

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Single-sentence article about the one-off use of the term mana in discourse about Anglo-Saxon kingship. The entire content of the article is:

The word Mana has occasionally been used to describe the concept of life force [1] or charisma,[2] in Anglo-Saxon culture.

References

  1. ^ Bates, Brian (2003). The Real Middle Earth: Magic and Mystery in the Dark Ages. Pan Books. p. 12. ISBN 978-1-4039-6319-2.
  2. ^ Chaney, William A. (1970). The cult of kingship in Anglo-Saxon England: the transition from paganism to Christianity. Manchester University Press. pp. 55–56. ISBN 978-0-7190-0372-1.

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Proposed Deletion

This article is factually incorrect from the start and has no way of being edited into a better form. The earliest reference from William Chaney does not support what the article asserts: that such a term as mana exists. It simply does not in Old English, nor is it used in discourse today. Chaney's book uses mana as it exists in Austronesian languages and nothing more. The more recent citation of Brian Bates is guilty of original research and is not reliable. (A review from May 2014 shows some such issues.) Attempting to verify further, the word is not found in Bosworth-Toller (a search brings up unrelated things), nor does it come up in Grimm, Pollington, or even Germanic neopaganism sources. Additionally, the Christianisation of Anglo-Saxon England made it so that Wodan did not matter as a god proper, but rather he was euhemerised for the Anglo-Saxon royal genealogies. Anything before Christianisation is poorly documented and belongs to prehistory. The example is thus flawed. Yugure (talk) 06:09, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

merge with Mana

As the above discussion indicates, this article appears to be based on a confusion created by the use of the Polynesian word mana in anthropology as a generic term for social power, charisma etc. This usage of the word is already described in Mana#The_academic_study_of_mana. There certainly does not need to be an entire article describing its application to a single culture. I therefore propose that this article be merged into the section Mana#The_academic_study_of_mana. --109.159.56.105 (talk) 05:25, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

The page had previously been redirected, but there's agreement that the redirect is not suitable (RfD). – Uanfala (talk) 11:20, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete as per Uanfala's 2022 argument/proposal; factually incorrect stub best deleted. Klbrain (talk) 09:57, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per Uanfala and Klbrain. Agricolae (talk) 04:20, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's not worth merging this, because it is useless "word X has been used by source Y" rubbish. Ironically, the Chaney source in the first (complete) sentence of the page gives the actual words; and the source that it itself cites (JSTOR 1508079) could definitely make our mana article better. But this content could not, and it's not a distinct concept. Delete. Uncle G (talk) 16:06, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Star Mississippi 00:11, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Paniko Gham[edit]

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Not notable per WP:NBOOK and a lack of significant coverage. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 00:51, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete - insufficient coverage to meet the relevant notability guideline. Only one article and not of significance. Such-change47 (talk) 11:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - convinced by other editors that this book satisfies WP:NBOOK and so my ground for deletion no longer valid. Such-change47 (talk) 02:33, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Technically WP:BKCRIT says "A book is presumed notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the criteria" - so yes will it might have one an award (one of the criteria) it still must meet WP:GNG as winning an award is only an indicator not definer of notability. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 08:47, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep passes c#2 of NBOOK. Lil-unique1 "Presumed notable" means "presumed to pass the GNG", that's community consensus. You need to make a case why that presumption should not apply. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 02:33, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, meets WP:NBOOK as having won a major literary award. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:45, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Meet WP:NBOOK and is notable to be here in wikipedia. Owlf 📪 18:43, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. plicit 03:37, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Overtone (musical group)[edit]

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They've done a lot, but nothing that seems to pass WP:BAND. Current sources are all promotional or primary. Prod contested. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 01:44, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. I haven't made my mind up yet about the article, but I'm not sure if any of the links you've provided would qualify as WP:RS. Park3r (talk) 23:06, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per criterion 10 of WP:BAND, having performed half the soundtrack of Invictus in tandem with a small amount of coverage, mostly related to the group's connection with the Eastwoods 1 2 3 4 5. It's not mentioned in the article, but the band were also stars of Mrs. Eastwood & Company. All of those separately would not qualify this group for its own article, but put all together, I'm inclined to keep. That being said, the article needs serious work. Lkb335 (talk) 14:24, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Star Mississippi 02:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Swift[edit]

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After pruning the poorly or unsourced information in this article, we're not left with much. I can't find any coverage of Swift/Cook under either name that satisfies WP:NAUTHOR or GNG. There's no meaningful reviews of his books from any of the typical reliable sources and no coverage of his other works or him as an actor or competitor in a netflix show. PRAXIDICAE💕 13:57, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment One mention in PopSugar, which is a "mildly reliable source", coverage in Bustle, not much better as a source. Women's Health has brief coverage, mostly about his instagram account, rest aren't much help. Name search peters off after page 3 of the Google listings, hitting on anyone with his name. Leaning delete. Oaktree b (talk) 14:13, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. plicit 03:37, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comparison of current Macintosh models[edit]

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The Previous AfD several years ago closed to no consensus, but I think the main systemic problem remains. This runs afoul of WP:NOTCATALOG, focused on comparing Apple's entire lineup in a way sources don't (do sources exist talking about "which iPhone I should get"? Absolutely. Do they either do it with this level of detail? I don't see the source-based evidence for that.) The listings also include stuff like pricing info that absolutely make it read as sales rather than encyclopedia. This is also information that's also unnecessarily duplicated from individual lines, where the comparisons make much more sense; to quote Czar in the previous AfD, "The difference between each refresh of a product fits within the scope of each product's individual article." That basically nothing is directly and clearly cited is the cherry on top. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 19:06, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Any technology article that discusses "current" anything (let alone have it in the title), usually gets out-dated due to technology changing so fast. If not, it becomes a place where fans promote the products. Just go to the company web site to get the current information. Encyclopedia articles are indeed not a product guide. W Nowicki (talk) 22:51, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Clear consensus not to delete. Further discussion about whether the page would be better as a disambiguation page or redirect can continue at the appropriate venue. Mojo Hand (talk) 23:04, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Principal council[edit]

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Principal council is a term seemingly no longer commonly used in England (at least by the UK Government), but is in Wales by the Welsh Government. The very short article itself simply defines the term by reference to legislation, but the relevant information about principal councils is instead included in the local government articles for England and Wales. Therefore, I think it best deleted. FollowTheTortoise (talk) 18:41, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Redirect to Local government in Wales: Still relevant, especially historically, so it shouldn't be deleted outright in my opinion. Since it's only still in use in the Welsh government, it makes sense to me to redirect to this article, where the relevant information from the proposed article up for deletion is also listed. Amadeus22 🙋 🔔 18:53, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • That makes perfect sense to me and avoids confusion if the term is looked up but nothing returns! FollowTheTortoise (talk) 18:57, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Convert to disambiguation. Agere the meaning is thoroughly subsumed by the relevant local government articles. I disagree that we can redirect just to Wales, because there is a historic meaning in England that didn't disappear just because it isn't used in legislation anymore. It's also not clear to me how historic the usage is. People do still seem to say it, even in government. For example, here's a 2022 use of the term by a Cabinet Office spokesperson in relation to England. This page should disambiguate to the local government pages for England and Wales. agtx 19:04, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'd be totally okay with disambiguating it too, I hadn't even thought of that to be honest. It'd probably first be wise to check how often this perceived ambiguity actually happens and how often people use Principal council, like pageviews and such before we decide on redirection/disambiguation (if you ask me) Amadeus22 🙋 🔔 19:22, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • As Amadeus1999 says, this is an even better solution to redirecting to the Wales article. We could have two choices: England and Wales. FollowTheTortoise (talk) 20:01, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: FollowTheTortoise, with the greatest respect, you are mistaken. You have glanced at one gov.uk web page and not found any mention of the term there, but all of the various kinds of council listed on that page either are or are not principal councils, and it is a critical difference. If you were to search Google books, for instance, you would find hundreds of uses. There would be far more links to this page if WP’s coverage of local government and its law were not so poor, but one page which would suffer from losing it is principal area. Amadeus1999, this is not in any sense confined to Wales. Agtx, it is not historic, in fact a 20th century invention which is still important. Clearly the page is cited only from legislation, and it is a legal concept, but the crunch issue in an AfD is WP:N. If needed, improvement is possible to demonstrate the notability. I am just rather busy in the real world at the moment. Moonraker (talk) 19:25, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: I'd like to add that I only suggested redirection to the Wales local government article as it was said by nominator to be confined to Wales, I admit I didn't research it myself though. If it is indeed true that the term is still in used in English (or other parts too) then I'll gladly retract/change my !vote. Amadeus22 🙋 🔔 19:28, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks, Amadeus1999. To give FollowTheTortoise another example of how poor WP’s coverage of this subject is, we have no page for the Local Government and Housing Act 1989 which created political balance and politically restricted posts and also limited the political activities of employees, but all only in principal authorities. When the coverage is better here the page will be needed more, but almost no editors seem to be interested in this subject. Moonraker (talk) 19:50, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep Finding lots of hits on google books for legal/process books that talk about principle councils.
  1. Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Act 2007: chapter 28, explanatory notes. (2007). United Kingdom: Stationery Office.
  2. Spain, E., Smith, R., Glancey, R. (2015). Core Statutes on Public Law & Civil Liberties 2015-16. United Kingdom: Palgrave Macmillan.
  3. Cordes, M., Caulfield, G., Shackleton, F. (2011). Shackleton on the Law and Practice of Meetings. United Kingdom: Sweet & Maxwell.
  • I recognise it's not easy for editors to verify my claims here so just open a search in google books and type in "Principal council" government to easily find them. CT55555 (talk) 01:59, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per CT55555's points. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 12:37, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. The article is still of stubby quality and with questionable sources, but consensus appears to be that the sources presently in the article suffice for it to be kept. BD2412 T 05:49, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Usapang Real Life[edit]

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Seems to be sourced almost exclusively from YouTube and WP:PRIMARYSOURCES without establishing any external and independent coverage. Doesn't meet WP:GNGLil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 20:32, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak delete: While this article is widely sourced (no problems finding mentions on Google), they don't seem to be reliable. Almost every mention I came across was from a blog of some kind. Its notability is also disputed. Liamyangll (talk to me!) 07:20, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: The sources in the article (except YouTube) are reliable. I also found some reliable sources which talk about the show, whether partially or fully: [42], [43], [44], [45], [46] and [47]. That said, the article is good enough to pass WP:TVSHOW. ASTIG️🙃 (ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 15:15, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment 2-3 of these sources quote the same material (evidently a press release) and two of them redirect you to "download" software. The only coverage seems to be existance of the show and some sparse synopsis. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 18:00, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Meets WP:NTV with sources presented by Astig. They're reliable enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 03:53, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Modussiccandi (talk) 13:41, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Casely[edit]

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I created this many years ago but I don't think he passes WP:NMUSIC despite one charted hit. He's been featured on a few tracks, but his only solo release charted very very low. The current sources are all 404 except for one news article that barely says anything about him. World Radio History, which archives music magazines from the era, revealed nothing but false positives and directories. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 14:36, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I've added a couple more references. With those, and the existing references, I think there is enough here to meet WP:GNG NemesisAT (talk) 09:04, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 14:49, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proyecto Estrella[edit]

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Not notable. Article contains 20 cites but 12 aren't about the organization and don't mention it at all, 6 mention it in passing only, and the remaining 2 cites (#4 and #5) though they do mention the organization up to 3 times, they are not articles about the organization per se (its history, directors, accomplishments, headquarters with actual physical address, etc.) but simply that the organization was involved in some advocacy activity. WP:OR is very clear, at WP:PSTS, that article notability is to be established by secondary sources and this article contains not a single secondary source. It also states articles may contain tertiary sources; this article contains none. Finally, all 20 sources in this article are all primary sources (newspapers) which are not sufficient in and of themselves to establish notability -- especially when only one of the (WAPA-TV) can be considered mainstream (required by WP:PSTS). In addition, the article's Talk Page has, for over 1-1/2 years, questioned its notability, but no actions were taken by the articles editors to attend to it in any manner that would had provided the secondary sources required. Finally, the article also had a warning tag on it, also for well over a year, questioning its notability but, again, no one has been able to prove its notability. For these reasons the article should be deleted. Mercy11 (talk) 01:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - I'll be honest with you. I remember seeing this article years ago when I was going through all the talk pages of Puerto Rico articles and I thought 'this is not notable', but I didn't feel like going through all the sources. But now that you have mentioned it, I went through all the sources and it is exactly as you say. Most don't mention the organization at all, others mention it in passing, and #4 and #5 mention it but are not about the org. per se. Thanks. The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 15:42, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 19:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Minor Accomplishments of Jackie Woodman[edit]

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Found one review but nothign else. Just a bunch of PR fluff. Prod contested without valid comment Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 00:38, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment – I deprodded with the valid comment: "prods are for uncontroversial deletions only." Never heard of this show, don't care about it, but it is covered by Los Angeles Times, Los Angeles Daily News, The Record, The New York Times, The Boston Globe, Chicago Tribune, Detroit Free Press, Boston Herald, The San Diego Union-Tribune, Hollywood Reporter, Newsday, Philadelphia Daily News, Denver Post, Fresno Bee, San Francisco Chronicle, etc. Caro7200 (talk) 12:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:PROVEIT. Show the sources you found. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 14:51, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You've indicated in other AfDs that you have the ability to look through PQ and Newspapers.com ... not sure why you didn't do a BEFORE in this case ... Caro7200 (talk) 19:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Because I did and found nothing beyond what's already here. Do you want me to just take your word for it when you say "oh, but there are sources published here" when you haven't proven a single one of them? Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 19:13, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep -- As noted, there is more than ample coverage of this topic to meet the GNG. [48], [49], [50], [51], [52]. If something is reviewed by the LA Times, Variety, and the New York Times, it is unquestionably notable and suggests an insufficient search before nominating. matt91486 (talk) 19:17, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Why did none of those come up when I searched? Literally all I got was press releases and unreliable stuff like IMDb. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 19:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Bicester#Schools content is under the redirect if consensus develops for a merge Star Mississippi 02:05, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Glory Farm Primary School[edit]

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Primary school which fails WP:NSCHOOL - lacking significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. AusLondonder (talk) 17:45, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete article doesn't meet notability criteria. As WP:WHYN states, "If only a few sentences could be written and supported by sources about the subject, that subject does not qualify for a separate page". SamWilson989 (talk) 01:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 (ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 00:30, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Money Bag (song)[edit]

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WP:NSONGS says that charting might indicate notability, but charting alone does not suffice. This song has not received extensive coverage, independent of sources covering the album. Some of the information (if not all) is already included on the parent album page. What isn't covered can be easily added. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 19:51, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. I believe there is enough material for reasonably detailed background, lyrics, critical reception, commercial performance, and live performance sections. Some material in sources not cited in the article include XXL, The Daily Beast, and The New York Times. However, the music and lyrics section of the album article is significantly underdeveloped, and most of the stuff for this song would fit in fine there. The only independently notable thing is the live performance, but it wasn't Britney-VMAs level, so it could reasonably fit in the album article with an additional sentence in the "release and promotion" section. Heartfox (talk) 20:49, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Meets WP:NSONG especially with sources presented by Heartfox. They're reliable and in-depth enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 01:07, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn with no remaining deletion proposals. Splitting the article can be discussed on the article talkpage. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 18:56, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Third Order of Saint Francis[edit]

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This month is a GoCE drive, and the nominated article was in the copyedit backlog. After completing the asked task in the copyedit template (removing links from section headers), I continued with a general copyedit, as in my prelim copyedit I noticed some readability issues. Part of the way through my copyedit, I realized that the nominated article is mostly a list of regional branches of the third order (most of whom have their own pages), and the two large subsections of the order each have their own pages: Third Order Regulars and Secular Franciscan Order. This made me concerned that the nominated article is nothing but a WP:REDUNDANTFORK, and a large one at that. Epikourios Alitheia talk 00:18, 17 May 2022 (UTC) Withdrawn Mannanan97 suggests a much better pathway for this article to grow. Epikourios Alitheia talk 14:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Epikourios Alitheia talk 00:26, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - the edits have improved the article, and that's great - but this topic is clearly notable, an entire branch of the largest church on the planet, comprising many orders with large scale and wide activities, and is referenced to support this. It is not some abstract concept, the Third Order of Frances is well-established over centuries. What I agree someone does need to do, perhaps, is to rebalance this article for the overall Third Order and the articles on the two big sub-divisions (Regular and Secular), and in turn any lists of the individual orders (in those three articles or elsewhere), as well as the individual order articles - but this in no way means that we don't need some kind of article on the overall Third Order. Extending the same logic we could argue to skip the article on Roman Catholicism because we have an article on Christianity... and I don't think we need to go there. SeoR (talk) 11:53, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - the article gives a general overview of the Franciscan Third Order (apparently the largest of the Third Orders), describing the two different types with links to the respective Mains. The largest section appears to concern the religious sisters, which indicates their expansion in the 18th century and subsequent compression in the 20th. As these women were among those who initiated most of the social services in America, I think it's worthy of note. I do not see this as a REDUNDANTFORK, nor find which specific policy deletion would fall under. An alternative approach might be to split the American women religious third order regular communities into an article similar to Dominican Order in the United States. Manannan67 (talk) 03:23, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. North America1000 12:37, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Richard D. King (United States Air Force officer)[edit]

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Doesn't appear to pass WP:BIO. The only relevant sources that come up in a WP:BEFORE search are official US military publications, and even those are largely passing mentions or routine coverage along the lines of "these are the new generals this year". (Note that there is an also a Richard D. King who is a Chief Master Sergeant in the US Air Force, not a Brigadier General.) Apocheir (talk) 00:18, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Kazakh Khanate. plicit 14:51, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Töre (dynasty)[edit]

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This article lacks substance, is (I think) machine translation from the Russian wiki, and is pretty much incomprehensible. 'Cleanup' for this article would be a full rewrite; as it is, this article brings nothing to the encyclopedia. — Jthistle38 (talk) 00:09, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Redirect to Kazakh Khanate - the content itself is too problematic to be worth merging, and this was the entity ruled by the dynasty. Agricolae (talk) 04:17, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Kazakh Khanate per above. Content is unreadable at the current stage and would be difficult to merge. A redirect is the right option here. -ecotalk to me 22:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect as suggested. The title is a credible search term, so that having a redirect would be appropriate. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:40, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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