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The result was delete as copyvio. — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:14, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Kosman Island[edit]
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An article about an island could be notable, but in that case the the article should be about the island. This article is not. Unreliable and possibly fails WP:GNG. The Banner talk 11:41, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
- Reliability is, ironically, not the problem. The text of the article was lifted wholesale, sentence by sentence, from Sabetian & Foale 2006, p. 6. It was not actually written by a Wikipedia editor at all. Copying and pasting is not writing. Uncle G (talk) 12:19, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
- Sabetian, Armagan; Foale, Simon (2006). "Evolution of the artisanal fisher: case studies from Solomon Islands and Papua New Guinea". Traditional Marine Resource Management and Knowledge Information Bulletin (20): 3–10.
- Kinch, Jeff (January 2002). "Giant clams: Their status and trade in Milne Bay Province, Papua New Guinea". TRAFFIC Bulletin. 19 (2).
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 12:54, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
- Keep but possibly rename to Long-Kosman reefs. The place is listed as 'Kosman Island' in multiple editions of 'Official Year Book of the Commonwealth of Australia' (for example here) and it also appears as such on Google maps. However this article and the research paper by Foale and Sabetian refer to the place as reefs. I can't find any refs apart from these, so wasn't initially sure if it met our notability requirements. However there's too much specific info to make a merge with Louisiade Archipelago appropriate. I don't agree with the comment by UncleG above: several sentences in one section of the article are close paraphrases of text from the Foale and Sabetian article, but I don't see that as problematic. In thinking about whether this place is independently notable or not I've taken as a benchmark the many thousands of stub article we have in the encyclopedia about geographical features in Antartica. These places have never been inhabited and never will be, and are simply described as next to another islet or peak. The community has long agreed that these articles should be kept for their gazeteer value. As the Kosman Island/reefs have been the locus of a specific piece of research and of recorded human conflict, they meet a much higher threshold of notability than the Antartica ones. WP:GEOLAND says geographical features may be notable 'provided information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist.' The content of this article is that information. Mccapra (talk) 14:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
| original by Sabetian & Foale, op. cit. | ganked copy |
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| Beche-de-mer are cooked on these small uninhabited islands, which are used as camps for one to two-week-long fishing trips, made mainly by Ware and Brooker Islanders (Geoff Cal- lister, pers. comm.). Apart from the six-month closed season, and what appear to be increasingly frequent and acrimonious territorial disputes between Brooker and Ware Island fishers, the fish- ery is essentially unregulated. There is very little in the way of local level management initiatives, and one of the reasons for this is an apparent lack of awareness of the limits of stocks. Foale (2005) pre- sents interview data from islands in the Bwanab- wana language group (which includes Ware Island) on the topic of perceived limits to fished stocks (reproduced in Table 1 below). Foales demonstrates that there is relatively low awareness of limits to beche-de-mer, even despite the common knowledge of sandfish and black teat overfishing, and an almost total disbelief that there might be limits to finfish populations | Beche-de-mer are cooked on these small islets, which have camps for one to two-week-long fishing trips, made mainly by Wari and Utian Islanders. The fishery is essentially unregulated. There is very little in the way of local level management initiatives, and one of the reasons for this is an apparent lack of awareness of the limits of stocks. Foale (2005) presented interview data from islanders, in which he found low awareness of limits to Beche-de-mer, even despite the common knowledge of sandfish and black teat overfishing. |
| original by Kinch 2002, p. 24 | ganked copy |
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| He stated that prior to commercial harvesting, unfished areas of south-ern Milne Bay Province contained an overall density of 39/ha for all species of giant clams (Chesher, 1980). | Prior to commercial harvesting, the overall density for all species of giant clams, was 39/ha. |
- This is not close paraphrasing. This is out and out copy and paste. Uncle G (talk) 15:01, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
- Speedy delete per WP:G12, clear WP:COPYVIO. No comment on the notability of the island, it's likely notable per WP:GEOLAND given the sources. SportingFlyer T·C 21:33, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
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