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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:02, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jetfire[edit]

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Did a WP:Before, searched the news outlets and only found passing mentions to his toy and no significant coverage of him, [1], whenever mainstream outlets talk about him, it is always in a part of a greater media context and it is only a passing mention. [2] So he does not meet GNG. Grandmaster Huon (talk) 14:37, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:13, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Comics and animation and Toys. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:39, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Keep due to questionable motives of nominator and flood of similar nominations leaving no time for anyone to do non-Google research. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 19:57, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: It's a shame there is so much cruft in the existing article, but looking into this briefly, the whole Jetfire / Skyfire naming and the licensing conflicts between franchises and manufacturers make this guy's real-world story pretty interesting. Some works that cover it: Den of Geek did probably the best job here, Gizmodo touched on it with a re-release, this book has seen some criticism for basic coverage on some characters (only stats), but the entry here provides the good real-world info. A few more: Anime News Network coverage and a cartoon to film breakdown from ...yes... the dreaded Comic Book Resources (for what it's worth, this one is not a listicle piece, and actually reads with some decent insight). There have to be some comic reviews to pull from, but there's clearly enough already that WP:NEXISTS to maintain this one. The article should definitely be trimmed down outside AfD, though. -2pou (talk) 18:20, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  CBR is a strange site, in that they run a lot of social media listicle fodder but do have both good analysis, interviews and the like if you poke around. The dismissal of it as a source outright in some AfDs has been somewhat unsettling, as most news websites run plenty of frivolous stuff to stay afloat. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 21:23, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per arguments presented by 2pou. BOZ (talk) 18:37, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• I appreciate the discussion must still run its course but it is worth noting that the nominator has been blocked for persistent bad faith actions. BoomboxTestarossa (talk) 19:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, as yes I agree that the Jetfire/Skyfire naming and the licensing conflicts make him a very interesting character indeed. Davidgoodheart (talk) 02:58, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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