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The result was delete. The Delete views carry considerably more P&G-weight than the Keeps. Owen× ☎ 19:59, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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This fails WP:NCREATIVE, and overall, WP:GNG based on WP:SIGCOV and WP:MILL. The award they won is not significant enough to help them pass, if they had 'won' their 'nomination's, that would be a different case, just merely being nominated at NEA isn't significant enough. The noms are unsourced while the piece the award they won is sourced to is an unreliable one from a marginally reliable publication (WP:NGRS). Taking a close look at the sources, they are mostly WP:RUNOFTHEMILL and unreliable pieces and do not provide WP:SIGCOV. I am skeptical about the notability of G-Worldwide Entertainment itself. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Businesspeople, Entertainment, and Nigeria. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: winning a non-notable award isn't notable, the rest of the sources are puffy entertainment/lifestyle sources, not really helping notability. Oaktree b (talk) 20:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: nominated for a notable award twice in 2015 and 2017.--Afí-afeti (talk) 07:34, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV(both in the Nigerian media and in foreign ones). At least you can look at the Nigerian Wikipedia article and find several sources. I’m not sure about WP:NMUSIC, but it’s not the main criteria anyway. Tau Corvi (talk) 08:43, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tau Corvi You clearly don't know how the general notability guideline works. For an subject to have a standalone page on Wikipedia, they have to be the subject of discussions from multiple secondary sources that are independent of the subject, reliable and provides a substantial coverage of the subject. These are needed to pass WP:GNG, a subject doesn't just pass SIGCOV to qualify for a standalone page. Even the SIGCOV you claim it passes is even not exactly correct because that is not the case. I understand you're a new user, you may need to familiarise yourself with the policies and guidelines before venturing into AfDs. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment : If an Award has been reviewed, has a Wikipedia page and meets the WP:GNG then it’s notable. But reference from reliable source that are independent of the subject are needed to be cited for proof. The fact he has Won, being Nominated for notable awards, contributed to the notable movie Suga Suga (film) as an executive producer makes him passes WP:ANYBIO and notable. Per source cited on the article, subject passes WP:GNG. If the award section can be addressed then my vote is a Keep. Please to the AFD nominator theirs no point responding to me. I’m not here to argue unreasonably or pick sides. My word still stands per Wikipedia article guideline.--Gabriel (talk to me ) 19:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per lack of any notability, and to be blunt, no claim to fame; even if everything is true, I don’t see what’s notable. Producers are not inherently notable. We’ve gone over this many time and we’re unlikely to change. Bearian (talk) 01:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Bearian, here’s a reliable source from Guardian Nigeria that discuss his rise to fame, and credit his works as an executive producer. The title labelled him as one of the pioneer of Afrobeat music into the global market. Mind you, Kizz Daniel’s first album New Era was on Billboard World Chart. As for the billboard chart, you can check here 2016. As for the link I shared above, I noticed the website is undergoing upgrade and I couldn’t retrieve via web archive. I will keep trying the link till it back, then I will notify you. Afí-afeti (talk) 07:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Unless it’s a producer who has had the stature of Phil Spector, producers are not notable. That’s the WP:OUTCOMES. If we want to make exceptions, then I would go along with the consensus change. Bearian (talk) 17:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Bearian, here’s a reliable source from Guardian Nigeria that discuss his rise to fame, and credit his works as an executive producer. The title labelled him as one of the pioneer of Afrobeat music into the global market. Mind you, Kizz Daniel’s first album New Era was on Billboard World Chart. As for the billboard chart, you can check here 2016. As for the link I shared above, I noticed the website is undergoing upgrade and I couldn’t retrieve via web archive. I will keep trying the link till it back, then I will notify you. Afí-afeti (talk) 07:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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