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SEW[edit]

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Fails WP:CORP, sourced only by press releases, and in a WP:BEFORE search all I could find was even more press releases. They've worked with some notable companies, but on Wikipedia notability is not inherited. No indication of notability for any of the awards they've won. Spammy tone can be fixed, but notability issue will remain, so I can't really be asked to clean this up. Wikishovel (talk) 13:36, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. I honestly don't think the tone can be fixed here without effectively starting from scratch. Blow it up. Alpha3031 (t • c) 14:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Hunt (journalist)[edit]

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Heavily embellished promotional bio created by an SPA, with no actual in-depth coverage by independent reliable sources. Except for nigeriasportsnews.com, which appears to be a puff piece, none of the sources refbombed in the article are actually about the subject—only tangential mentions from issues he has been involved in. Paul_012 (talk) 09:07, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Pinging Jamiebuba, who recently accepted the draft at AfC. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:07, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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DFH Network[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Kadı Message 19:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Winston Utomo[edit]

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Not sufficient sources to meet ANYBIO; sources are more about IDN Media. BoraVoro (talk) 12:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Taulia[edit]

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Fails to meet NCORP; not sufficient independent media coverage; routine Run-of-the-mill announcements. BoraVoro (talk) 07:37, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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:Delete per WP:NCORP 104.7.152.180 (talk) 13:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Striking, as this is block evasion. jp×g🗯️ 01:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Huupe[edit]

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I can't find mention of this sporting item, beyond sites to purchase it. Appears PROMO. Sourcing used in the article appears in non-RS. Oaktree b (talk) 22:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  @Oaktree b the articles below list helpful information to users about the product. This is not a promotion as this just lists information about the company, how it was founded, and how this will enhance the sport that people cherish. This should not merit a deletion.There are other articles as sources that can be added that prove and list this as well. Kompyoub (talk) 08:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Oaktree b I agree with @Kompyoub where the article does have reliable sources that show history and information on the product. This is not anything to do with anything promotional. I am happy to help answer anything but this article should stay. Nrochluz (talk) 12:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Not casting a formal !vote since I've taken admin actions against sockpuppetry here, but I do want to note that my assertion in the edit history of the page that SBJ had decent coverage was an error: said article states that it is "sponsored content" at the bottom of the page. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 13:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I figured something was up. Oaktree b (talk) 19:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No Limit Forever Records[edit]

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Vanity label that no longer operates. Most of the refences are from their own defunct website or to streaming media. No indication of notability. Karst (talk) 15:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep WP:N doesn't expire and it passes based on a few sources, though the Soundcloud sources need to be trashed. Nate • (chatter) 20:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge and redirect to No Limit Records. First, this isn't a notable company. This is a non-notable company associated with some notable performers. The company itself must be "the subject of significant coverage ... with a stronger emphasis on quality of the sources to prevent gaming of the rules". I don't see any such cited. I see articles about performers, with the company figuring only incidentally or not at all in them.

Second, the company (CA 201030110082) doesn't appear to be independent at all of Master P or No Limit Records. Its only official act was incorporation (Oct 2010). It was effectively dead 3 1/2 years later when its agent quit and officially dead 6 months after that. Except in company blog posts it's Master P who's signing artists, not the putative company founder Lil Romeo, and he's signing them to NL Records, not NL Forever. Some of the signings postdate the 2014 demise of this company. I'm persuaded that No Limit Records, New No Limit, No Limit Forever, and No Limit Global are simply alternative branding of one entity. Yappy2bhere (talk) 01:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cribl[edit]

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Doesn't seem like it actually meets NORG. Coverage is all your typical SERIESA stuff. History is also a little suspicious TBH but that's mostly secondary to the routineness of coverage. Alpha3031 (t • c) 15:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Death of Shaylee Mejia[edit]

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No evidence of sustained in-depth coverage; all local coverage from March; lead includes a weaseled potential BLP violation that this girl's death has been "widely attributed" to a fight she had at school. Zanahary (talk) 07:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. Seems a clear WP:BLP1E situation. Reliable sources only cover her in the context of a single event, she is a low-profile individual, and the event itself is not significant (although it is of course very sad). WP:NOTNEWS also relevant, I think. Chocmilk03 (talk) 08:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't really get your argument here. If it's an event based article it can't really be a BLP1E issue? But this definitely doesn't pass NEVENT either and should be deleted on those grounds. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: I can only find a half-dozen articles in Gnews about the event happening from the time it did, then nothing. Another non-notable death with no lasting consequences, NOTNEWS. Oaktree b (talk) 12:17, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: The incident which could be a potential murder/manslaughter case is already gaining significant coverage in the entire country, not just from local news. There will likely be bigger matters and legal proceedings concerning the death, which if you thoroughly investigate the details you will find some connection between the bullying and violence that the victim endured.

Cheera L (talk) 19:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we aren't a CRYSTALBALL. Oaktree b (talk) 04:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Foster III[edit]

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Members of the San Diego City Council or of the San Diego County Board of Supervisors are not presumptively notable based on WP:NPOL. They have to pass WP:GNG or at least WP:ANYBIO. This subject lacks in all, the sources presented in the article and from WP:BEFORE can not be used to the establish notability of this subject based on GNG. Sources are either lacking in independence or mostly in significant coverage of the subject. Most are WP:ROUTINE coverages which provide nothing but an announcement of Foster winning the seat or what have we, while some are result sheets, etc. Nothing to establish notability here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SeeVolution[edit]

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Fails the notability guideline for companies. Sources are trivial (routine funding announcements), non-independent or unreliable. Originally PRODed, but missed this previous AfD which unanimously favoured deletion. – Teratix ₵ 03:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jason Crane[edit]

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This only uses a single source, cannot find many/any sources outside of the listed one. Top results from searching show a separate Jason Crane. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 02:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to Rocket from the Crypt, as most of this bio is about the band rather than this band member, and sources can't be found verifying the rest, suggesting that there is a fair amount of WP:OR (original research) here. Plus this is a WP:BLP (biography of a living person) and unverified information should be deleted. Search of Wikipedia Library, ProQuest, and Google mainly turns up the "other" Jason Crane who is a jazz musician and poet with his own radio show/podcast (although this 2001 article in Seattle Post-Intelligencer appears to mention "this" Jason Crane as part of Black Heart Procession). (Most likely a passing mention at best.) If/when someone decides to write an article about the "other" Jason Crane (if he does indeed turn out to be notable), they can create the article from the redirect. Cielquiparle (talk) 14:41, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WebGain[edit]

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No sources found that make this topic meet for notability. 日期20220626 (talk) 04:08, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Land Conservancy of San Luis Obispo County[edit]

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Doesn't appear to meet WP:ORG / WP:GNG. Last AfD had low participation. Boleyn (talk) 16:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mr. SOS[edit]

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Seems to fail WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Enahnced some, but recreation of previously deleted subject. Mikeblas (talk) 19:41, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Moxie Software[edit]

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Fails the notability guideline for companies. Annoyingly the company appears to have changed its name several times (previously BSG Alliance and nGenera), so an AfD rather than a PROD just to make sure I'm not missing anything. Best sources I could find: [1] [2] [3]... "not great" would be an understatement. – Teratix ₵ 07:28, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. HighKing⁺⁺ 20:30, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

San Jose Taiko[edit]

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While previously deleted for G11, this time the page has been written in a more encyclopedic tone. Unfortunately, there is just not any coverage that I can find. BrigadierG (talk) 20:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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References to published academic work demonstrating the significance of this organization to the art of taiko in North America have been added, as well as national recognition from the NEA for the original managing director and artistic director of the organization. 31N2024 (talk) 00:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Coverage is in primary or non-RS. I don't find anything beyond them performing at various venues. This also appears PROMO. Oaktree b (talk) 02:00, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Has the nominator accessed the book coverage now referenced in the article which boasts of two books having 23 page coverage of this band? Atlantic306 (talk) 21:13, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of stamp clubs and philatelic societies in the United States[edit]

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Most likely fails WP:NLIST, consists of 60% red links. WP:NOTDIRECTORY also applies, and I didn't find WP:RS describing this list besides third-party directories. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 13:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment The links I clicked on had no references at all, or none that would count as reliable sources. Didn't check all of them. Dream Focus 19:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Most of the listed clubs are local organizations which would be unlikely to satisfy the notability criteria of WP:ORG. Hence, this looks mostly like a directory, which Wikipedia isn't. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy keep. This list is self-defining, and does not require extensive documentation. So far around twenty entries are individually notable, and the reasons suggested for deletion are not persuasive: 1) the number of redlinks is irrelevant; there is potential for expansion, and the list would be perfectly valid if the items were not linked, as long as it's possible to verify the existence of items that don't have their own articles; for this, third-party directories are fine. That said, some effort to document them is necessary, but fixing that is part of the normal editing process, not a valid reason for deletion. There is no deadline for locating sources.

2) none of the criteria of the cited WP:NOTDIRECTORY apply; this seems to be one of those policies that people cite because it sounds like it would apply, apparently without bothering to read and understand it. Specifically: this is not a "simple listing without contextual information"; the context is clearly given. It is not a list or repository of loosely associated topics; the items on the list are all closely connected by subject matter. It is not a cross-categorization. It has nothing to do with genealogy. It is not a program guide. It is not a business resource. WP:NOTDIRECTORY is about collections of information that have no encyclopedic value for readers; this list clearly has value. "This list is full of redlinks and doesn't have enough sources" is not a valid rationale for deletion. It's a reason to improve the list. P Aculeius (talk) 13:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P Aculeius, those are all very good points, thanks for pointing them out. However, you have not addressed how this list meets WP:NLIST, do you think you could explain how it would to justify a speedy keep, as the fact that the entries themselves are notable does not guaranty the list itself being notable? Cheers, Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:44, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Even if hypothetically NLIST was not met (which I believe it is), WP:LISTPURP suggests that there would still be other grounds to keep.

As prodder and nom, you have not shown any evidence of having demonstrated WP:BEFORE due diligence. The plethora of Google results for searches like "stamp clubs in America" suggests that this was not done. It isn’t really the most GF behavior to simply, since the burden of proof generally lies with the “keep” side once process has begun, make a prod or AfD nomination without actually determining if there’s a prima facie case for a notability or verifiability challenge.

Sorry for the sharpness, but sometimes it’s necessary.

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• Strong keep as deprodder. In my view it meets WP:LISTPURP and WP:NLIST and I feel this is a commonsensical call. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 07:29, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• delete I'm just not seeing this. The NY society's building is historic, but when you look at sources about these places, even the few with articles really don't seem notable. And anyway, what are the sources for this list? I'm looking at the listing from Linn's Stamp News, and it's far more complete and is up-to-date; it's also clear that most of the listings would never garner an article. I don't see the point of duplicating a not-very-useful subset of thei info (just the names), and once we go past that, we're in WP:NOTDIRECTORY territory. Mangoe (talk) 02:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Hannaford[edit]

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despite being flagged for improvement for nearly a decade now, the article still has major issues. much of the article seems to be either original research, or things Matt has been only involved with tangentially (like stars his coworkers at the company represented). this could be improved if the article met WP:BIO, but even that seems doubtful. Free Realist 9 (talk) 13:03, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mountain House Community station[edit]

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This proposed commuter train station does not pass WP:GNG or WP:NSTATION Sources 1, 4, and 5 have WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS of this planned station in the broader context of the Valley Link system; sources 2 and 3 are primary sources. With this station not scheduled to open until 2028 at the earliest, a standalone article is WP:TOOSOON. I propose to redirect this page to Valley Link until there is sufficient SIGCOV in reliable sources to warrant a standalone page. Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect per nomination. Appears to be too soon for a standalone article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 12:21, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. There are already lots of references, and their number and length will grow as designs are finalized and coverage of the project and individual stations continues. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  You obviously didn't read them as none of the independent sources say more than a sentence or two about the station, and you're making a very bold assumption about a station not expected to open until near the end of the decade. Valley Link already exists. But why let facts get in the way of your personal feelings? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 12:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep. Per WP:FUTURE "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." According to the sources, "The Valley Link project has been awarded $25 million by the state.That funding will go toward Valley Link’s first phase — the 26-mile section from the Pleasanton BART station to the proposed Mountain House station. The overall project is expected to cost $3.6 billion." — Maile (talk) 19:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Regardless of how certain the WP:FUTURE is, the station still has to pass the WP:SIGCOV test to be notable, and it doesn't -- it has passing references in sources focused on the whole system. It will someday, but until then, a redirect is appropriate. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect. Fails NOT and GNG. The above keeps have entirely missed the part of FUTURE that says future events should be included only if the event is notable (bolding mine); there is no IRS SIGCOV of this event, so it emphatically fails that requirement. JoelleJay (talk) 21:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wael William Diab[edit]

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BLP with no evidence of notability. Existing references are to:

• 1/3/7: primary source bios
• 2: a list of WP:PATENTS, which does not contribute to notability.
• 4: a press release
• 5/8/9: WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS in non-independent sources
• 6: self-authored material

WP:BEFORE search does not turn up any significant coverage in reliable, secondary, independent sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:59, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 42: It is verifiable that he chairs the organisation. The article doesn't WP:GNG and so, redirect since he won am award that was unverifiable but I a certain it should be. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:23, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  As nominator I'm OK with that AtD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jon Forshee[edit]

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Bio of a composer/academic fails GNG, NBIO, NACADEMIC, NMUSIC. The independent sources do not show WP:SIGCOV; WP:BEFORE search turns up no other reliable, independent, secondary sources with significant coverage or evidence of notability under any of the other SNG guidelines that might apply. Dclemens1971 (talk) 23:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete -- composer/researcher doing good things to advance his career that are pretty typical for composers at this stage. Significantly TOOSOON at this point. On the non-academic side, lacking the awards or major ensembles (those not dedicated to producing student work) to pass notability; on the WP:PROF side, does not have academic appointments or the sort of extensive influence to pass there. (Some of the journals are important in the field, but book/CD reviews are not articles.) -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 01:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  These are mostly fair points. Not sure what the "TOOSOON" means--too soon to have a wiki article? Regarding academic appointment, a Google search shows that Forshee was a visiting professor and now instructor. As to the ensembles performing Forshee's compositions, the Callithumpian Consort and Trio Kobayashi are, according to their own websites, not dedicated to performing student works (they list Elliott Carter, Schuittke, Huber, Scelsi, Cage, Lachenmann, Richard Barrett, Jürg Frey, Larry Polansky, James Tenney, basically all widely known composers on the international scene). The articles by Forshee don't appear to be book reviews or CD reviews, but neither do they appear to be rigorous scholarly research articles; they seem to be somewhere in between: interpretive analytical essays? The one in Computer Music Journal is an early review of software by the pioneering computer music composer Trevor Wishart. Part of the motivation for this article is that Forshee is one of the few notable (or borderline notable) students of composer Anthony Davis, who just had his Met Opera premiere of his Malcolm X this season. Dolemites (talk) 18:01, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Notability cannot WP:INHERITED from Anthony Davis or anyone else; for each subject it must be established independently according to the criteria. No articles by Forshee can be used establish his notability, only what independent and reliable sources have to say about him with "significant coverage." Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:30, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KZTC-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 10:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Run-of-the-mill local TV station, notable only on a local level. TH1980 (talk) 01:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KSDY-LD[edit]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 10:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete This is another run-of-the-mill local TV station, also notable only on a local level. TH1980 (talk) 01:18, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rusty Fein[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships explicitly do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: Subject meets the WP:GNG due to WP:SIGCOV such as [[4]] and [[5]]. Let'srun (talk) 13:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Moderate success at lower levels but does not meet WP:GNG guidelines. Go4thProsper (talk) 01:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't get you. Which part of WP:GNG are you saying? Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - The first source provided above is quite good, especially if you go to C5, where it focuses much more on him. I lean towards discounting the second source above since it mostly talks about his former partner's retirement and him contemplating the same in very few words. It is also the same publication and not independent of source #1 above. However, from the sources in the article, the Skate Today piece seems to cover him specifically in depth. Those are enough to meet GNG vice NSKATE in my view. -2pou (talk) 19:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Speedy keep: The article meets WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO based on the major awards he has won and was cited to reliable sources. For the nominator, WP:SNGs are followed after checking the WP:BASIC. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  What “major awards” has this guy won? Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:06, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That a PROD was removed doesn't make an article non notable. I see you nominated articles simply because they doesn't meet WP:NSKATE; this is a secondary/additional way after the article lacks valuable and verifiable sources to establish notability. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 07:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lya Stern[edit]

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This article is mainly a resume. Most of the sources in the article consist of dead links from websites that are related to Lya Stern; the rest of the sources either have brief mentions of her or don't mention her at all. After doing a Google search to see if there were sources that could be added to the article, the only significant coverage I found of her was from a website that listed Wikipedia as a source. The rest of the information I found was from her YouTube channel and mentions of her from her students. As a result, she doesn't met WP:GNG or WP:NBLP. That Tired Tarantula^Burrow 20:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment One source via Newspapers.com goes into some depth. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 03:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete (Weak) - There is a big gap in WP on instrumental performers who have created the American musical/movie music scene, and in general the encyclopedia is too quick to delete (especially for women and minority performers), but here I think the AfD is correct. The Baltimore Sun article gives a bit of notability, but the other sources do not. A blurb on the back of one's teacher's independently published book is not enough. There needs to be more and I could not find anything that led to more than what a local performing teacher would have. Glad to be proven wrong. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 08:13, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as there is a staff written bio at AllMusic here and an album review here to go with the detailed Baltimore Sun article linked earlier by Hameltion. Haven't done a full search yet, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  What does Eudice Shapiro have to do with the subject of this article? That Tired Tarantula^Burrow 23:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Just agreeing with That Tired Tarantula above -- @Atlantic306 you have linked to reviews for a different musician. If Lya Stern had an Allmusic staff bio, that would be relevant, but I could not find one. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 01:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that, have struck my vote and comment. In my defence the erroneous AllMusic bio is the first reference in the article but I should have noticed, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom lacks coverage fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:04, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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