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The result was delete. If you would like to work on improving this article in Draft space, let me know. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:48, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yunus Ahmad[edit]

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Lacks coverage in reliable sources. The article cites two sources and one of which is an offline publication that cannot be verified. The subject fails NPOL and GNG easily. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 19:45, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Islam, and Bangladesh. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 19:45, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, A simple Google Search hits 13,400,000 results for Yunus Ahmad's native language. He is the Secretary General of Islami Andolan Bangladesh, third largest political party in Bangladesh by votes.–MinisterOfReligion ^(Talk) 19:55, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- It received 1,236,983 out of 80,259,172 votes and won zero seats but yes technically they were third. Notability is not inherited either way. Odd, I barely see 40 thousand results when I search his name in his native language. Please feel free to add any of the sources to the article to demonstrate notability. As Article creator you could have added those sources when you created the article.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 20:00, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

40K results is enough for fulfil the WP:POLITICIAN,

• Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.–MinisterOfReligion ^(Talk) 20:08, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Just counting up the number of hits you get for a person's name in a Google search does not in and of itself fulfill any notability criterion. A Google search, for instance, does not easily distinguish between WP:GNG-worthy reliable sources that count as support for notability and self-published primary sources that do not; a Google search cannot easily distinguish between relevant hits for the person you're talking about and irrelevant hits for some completely different person with the same name; a Google search cannot easily distinguish between sources that are actually about him and sources that just happen to glancingly mention his name; and on and so forth. So you have to actually show specific examples of what you believe to be GNG-building sources, and just throwing a number around accomplishes absolutely nothing. Bearcat (talk) 16:39, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: "one of which is an offline publication that cannot be verified" but offline sources can be verified. Jahaza (talk) 21:06, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You misunderstand, I cannot verify this specific offline source.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 02:13, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. TJMSmith (talk) 15:11, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails wp:GNG. I have not found any (except for passing mention and routine coverage) reliable sources in both Bengali and English. 'Our Charmonai' isn't a reliable source. There are lots of people named Yunus Ahmed in Bangladesh. Hence the search count is hitting 40k+. —Yahya (talk • contribs.) 20:23, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Although I can understand why the author, Owais Al Qarni (aka MinisterOfReligion), might want to keep their creation, there is no hard evidence of notability. When I search Google, their notoriously inflated estimate tells me there are "about 1,020" results for his native name. Paging through them, there are actually only about 75 hits. Choosing 15 from reliable publishers, I found other versions of the already cited brief mention of his election as party secretary general (4), and the listing of his name among many speakers at various events (11). In no case was there any biographical info other than his title, or any analysis, evaluation, or interpretation of anything he said. Fails WP:GNG and WP:POLITICIAN. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:13, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Fails both WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. The first reference is a trivial listing that is not significant coverage. The second offline ref might be decent (or not) but per GNG or NBASIC multiple is usually needed. Unfortunately, my WP:BEFORE mainly found trivial mentions or short/routine coverage that does not seem to establish notability, e.g., 1, 2, 3. The quantity of sources might be impressive but WP:GOOGLEHITS is irrelevant to notability. However, do ping me if more sources demonstrating WP:SIGCOV are found. Thanks. VickKiang (talk) 09:27, 13 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.