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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:41, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ninoslav Marina[edit]

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Poorly-sourced autobiography of a person who tried so hard to promote themselves that their name ended up on the global title blacklist. No clear evidence of notability * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:03, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators, Science, Engineering, Technology, and North Macedonia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:24, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Clearly fails WP:GNG as none of the cited sources cover the subject in depth. If sources are found, please ping me.-- Tumbuka Arch (talk) 21:49, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: no evident notability in the article and very obviously written by it's subject as a résumé page. InDimensional (talk) 21:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: as per above, not notable. He is not currently the Rector, and I have major reservations about the University. Looking at their 2022 graduation photo https://uist.edu.mk/about/gallery/patrons-day-graduation-ceremony/ it does not look notable to me. Ldm1954 (talk) 01:26, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  N.B., I did an AfD on the university, University of Information Science and Technology. Ldm1954 (talk) 00:15, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. The former rector of a major academic institution would generally be notable, but I don't think this is a major academic institution; little other sign of notability. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 09:21, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Clarifying that my !vote stands: I suspect the academic institution may be notable, but do not think it clears even a low bar for "major". Russ Woodroofe (talk) 02:27, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Hold -- The qualifications for Marina to pass the AfD stem entirely based on whether UIST in Macedeonia is considered notable. If it is, then there is a pass of WP:PROF on the precedent that the top-level official at a significant university is notable. If it is not found to be notable, then there isn't enough here to keep. But subjective judgments on whether the graduation photo looks glamorous enough are not policy. (And current vs. former holder of an office is explicitly not a criterion for notability). For more, see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/University_of_Information_Science_and_Technology_"St._Paul_The_Apostle". My !vote is whatever the conclusion of that AfD ends up being. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 10:41, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Mscuthbert, the WP:NPROF guideline is that UIST should be a major academic institution for rectors to be considered notable. This is surely a much stricter standard than notability, and I don't see anyone arguing that the institution is major. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 11:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The cases I can remember (going through AfD for academics for about 16 years), the cases where top academics at higher education have been deleted have entirely been non-notable universities (which the AfD for UIST will determine), community colleges, and small, independent theological seminaries. I believe that the bar for "major" has often been at about that level. I can't recall a president/VC/Rector of a research institute being deleted for their university not being sufficiently "major". -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 11:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  There was one for a Singaporean university president recently, but I can't recall the specifics. JoelleJay (talk) 04:36, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Neutral I second everything what @Mscuthbert has stated above. Let's wait and see the conclusion of the university's AFD. X (talk) 19:12, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. If someone is to be considered academically notable for being the rector of a university, the presumption is that their position is actually a significant accomplishment for someone in their subfield broadly, not just "in Macedonia". That's why we require the university to be "major". Notability of the institution is not sufficient (we have plenty of articles on community colleges), so regardless of the other AfD outcome this article fails to demonstrate notability through NPROF. JoelleJay (talk) 04:35, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per JoelleJay. -- asilvering (talk) 06:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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