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The result was delete. Serious problems meeting WP:V, possible hoax j⚛e deckertalk 16:30, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Avlor Landić de Hazelrof[edit]
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Article appears to be a hoax -- no books by him are found in WorldCat, Hollis (Harvard University Catalog) etc.; up for a WP:SNOW deletion as Hoax at fr:. "Unfinished Revolution in China" is not by the subject. I cannot find any sources to support the claims here. No hits in GS either. I declined a speedy-del as hoax, but think it should be deleted here. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 06:39, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- (comment): as far as other articles by the same writer, the existence of Xavier de La Chevalerie can be confirmed [1], but there seems to be hoax information there too ("Poètes et chansons Recueil de vers d'Auguste Daufresne de la Chevalerie (1818–1881), publié en 1877." -- for a person living 1920-2004 seems an odd cite). Worldcat lists three translations of Wealth of Nations into Chinese; none by Hazelrof or Jun mǎ (the French article says it's in the "archives de l’université de Yangzhou, Jiangsu"). I can't find anything on a priest Bernard Renaud Von Jacquemol or his supposed essay "l'épuisement du poète". It's not absolutely impossible that this could be a well-researched, badly-cited article, but it's more likely a hoax in my opinion. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 06:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Speedy delete, apparent hoax, a google search of .hr sites brings up no hits on a Croatian person - which is most unlikely, and even if it's not a hoax, it still fails both WP:V and WP:GNG. Pity I didn't catch it earlier when I had noticed it was unreferenced. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 07:38, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy was denied earlier so it couldn't be done again. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 08:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I indicated support for the speedy here, as more of an appeal to WP:DUCK and WP:SNOW :) --Joy [shallot] (talk) 07:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy was denied earlier so it couldn't be done again. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 08:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as hoax, this seems entirely made-up with fake sources; it was created first on French Wikipedia (18 June 2011). On the other hand, Xavier de la Chevalerie (French Wiki again) certainly existed, as did his ancestor Auguste (the book of poems is not used in that article to prove anything about Xavier). Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:16, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. As a queer hoax and per Joy above. With the "Works. In Other Languages" compare the bibliography at Israel Epstein. For "The American strategy, Jean Vinatier, Seriatim V 34, Gaul Press", see this blog. If "Jon Claudius Jubin" ever existed, he's managed to avoid any easily traced online footprint. Et cetera. A Google Books search does not return anyone at all with either the first name Avlor or the second name Hazelrof; even if these were nonstandard transliterations or something, the same nonstandard forms would have occurred at least one other time in the past two centuries. davidiad.: 20:49, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- See also Edith de La Chevalerie (AfD discussion). Uncle G (talk) 12:01, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete No online reliabie sources to establish subject's WP:V --Artene50 (talk) 23:23, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No sources can be found, either off-line or on-line, which could verify this person's existence, let alone notability. I don't think it was a deliberate hoax, more like some fanciful original research. Note that I have completely re-written the Xavier de La Chevalerie article (created by the same editor) to contain only information which can be verified by published reliable sources. The previous version of the article had no inline citations, very dubious and vague sources listed, contained much original research and quite possibly many inaccuracies and "embellishments" (to say the least!). Voceditenore (talk) 13:35, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. The corresponding article in French Wikipedia is also being discussed for deletion. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 17:17, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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