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We seem to be having a project wide revert war over whether to use "Ancient" (with a "c") or "Antient" (with a "t"). We need to hammer this out and reach a consensus, and we should do so in one central location. Since this impacts several articles, I have started a thread at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Freemasonry#Ancients vs. Antients... consensus? to be that central location. Please discuss at that thread. Thank you, Blueboar 13:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I happened to take a look at Mackey's Encyclopedia today, and he has an entry on Morris, but there's less info on him than you already have. He was involved in a lot of stuff, though, so it may be a matter of cross-referencing from other material as opposed to a straight biography. MSJapan 01:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for checking -- it was fun researching the material for the article. Anything you can find to add, please do.--SarekOfVulcan 01:36, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

What are you referring to? I haven't made any in a long time.►Chris Nelson 01:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I just don't consider any of that a personal attack. It's all true and there's tons of proof.►Chris Nelson 16:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

The article Tom Smith (filker), which you have contributed to has been listed as being considered for deletion. Please add you comments to the discussion. Shsilver 12:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your improvements to Tom Smith (filker). You have saved it from certain death. Bearian 18:33, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Responded on user talk --SarekOfVulcan 18:57, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Due to the CAPTCHA mechanism being implemented, it caused the bot to log off. I have put the bot back online and the RFC pages will be updated shortly. MessedRocker (talk) 20:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Would you mind taking a look at Living Church of God? User:Webrown70 is in the midst of a major rewrite of the article. I'm not entirely comfortable with the edits because of the appearance of WP:COI problems (see his/her talk page) and heavy reliance on LCG self-published sources. Pairadox 18:40, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, I started cleaning up the referencing style. I have no major problem with self-published sources, as long as they don't make claims they can't back up. I did trim down the number of external links, though: didn't think we needed to have every language they publish in.--SarekOfVulcan 21:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for looking at it. Personally I don't mind SPS in a lot of cases, but according to WP:SPS they really shouldn't be used when it involves claims about third parties (independent accounting reports, Neilsen ratings) and if the article is based primarily on such sources. Pairadox 00:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your editing of the article. As for the claims about third parties making certain statements, I see where you are going. However, the comment in the article about "independent accounting reports" is verifiable. If you look in the pdf document cited, there is an actual letter from the accounting firm that confirms the claim made in the article. Thanks again.Webrown70 21:20, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		I'm awarding you this RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar for your great contributions to protecting and reverting attacks of vandalism on Wikipedia. Wikidudeman (talk) 14:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

With reference to your note below:

Clifford Borg Hi there. I just came across your Clifford Borg article, and while I was searching for information to confirm his notability, I found that the biography was lifted word for word from another site. Please fix this. Also, please review the notability guidelines and make sure that this article addresses them, or someone will come along and nominate it for deletion. I think he may meet them: without more information, though, someone may disagree with me. Good luck improving this article!--SarekOfVulcan 15:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Nevmic"

Please note that this is the official biograph supplied by the artist which is found on his website. He told me that he uses this biography everywhere so what is wrong with that? He has written the text and has all the copright rights on his text.

Thanks

He gave me all the rights... he gave me all the text and images to insert on the wikipedia since he does not know how to do it and I offered my help .. you can see his email below:

<<Clifford Borg Wiki.doc>> <<per5.jpg>> <<drifted1.jpg>> <<briandark2.jpg>> <<cliffordborg.jpg>> Hi nev,

These are my details…….

So there is the info on the word document…….

Cliff01: please include it as a main pic

Briandark2: external links section

Drifted: in the discography section

Per2: in the performances section

Thanks alot and if you have any problems please let me know through msn ……i will not check this mail during the weekend

Clifford

Clifford Borg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nevmic (talk • contribs) 16:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Fame at last... --Mark H Wilkinson ^{(t, c)} 17:39, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Heh. I can't decide if I'd want Tom to write a song about something I'd done, or if I'd want to do everything in my power to avoid it.... --SarekOfVulcan 17:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I've just followed on to the post on his Livejournal. Crikey. What it is to be loved... --Mark H Wilkinson ^{(t, c)} 19:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I was meaning to do that but it slipped behind other WP Projects I'm involved in. Well done. Alexf^{(Talk/Contribs)} 19:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Alex. If you think you can come up with a more-representative screenshot than I did, please do. Also, do you think a FPD shot for comparision would be good? I don't have it installed to do the shot myself...--SarekOfVulcan 19:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Not really (and I don't have it installed either). It's been a few years... Alexf^{(Talk/Contribs)} 19:42, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, SarekOfVulcan! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Daniel 10:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear Sarek, please, don't pay attention to that notice; like I told my friend LaraLove a couple of days ago, it's there for mere decorative purposes, as the requests keep coming... and I simply can't turn them down! :) So this means, yes, I'll gladly redesign your userpage, and that very soon; in fact, as soon as you let me know about the preferences you may have in terms of color, or layout. Or, if you prefer, you may let me weave my imagination upon it. Just let me know this, and I'll put myself to work :) Love, Phaedriel - 21:16, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I have been doing antivandalism work by the bucketful for the last few months. I use VP which is nice (albeit with a few new unresolved bugs lately). I have looked at Twinkle's page before. Q: How do you modify your .js page? When clicking on the link I get a R/O text file out of Firefox. If I modify it, how do you send back the changes to .js to the server? (you can email me the answers if you want or put in my talk page, whichever you prefer). Thx. Alexf^{(Talk/Contribs)} 19:41, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh, please, _let_ them link to Jack Chick. It only makes us look good -- anyone who believes what he says isn't going to be convinced by facts anyway. :-)--SarekOfVulcan 22:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

That definitely crossed my mind, but the section and the cited sources looked so silly, and a little embarrassing. BTW, I used to live in Vulcan (Alberta, Canada that is). Cheers.--BC 00:51, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

well you see i dont really know why you dont think my username is appropriate, im not sure what your affiliation with wikipedia is but, the reason is because everytime i would put in a typical username like for instance johndoe or whatever, it would not accept it so i just randomly typed Gjsrdh gpjkasf and from then on its been my wikipedia username. thank you for your time, i also would like to know the particular reason for this concern. thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gjsrdh gpjkasf (talk • contribs) 02:15, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

yes hello, im sort of new to wikipedia, but i would like to know how to create a page on a certain topic such as a genre of music or a band not yet listed in wikipedia, could you tell me how to do this? thanks a million! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gjsrdh gpjkasf (talk • contribs) 02:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

okay, i am not sure what you are talking about. Tiptoety 05:05, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Alright, but when JoeFriday removes that much content without giving a reason, it appears to constitute vandalism. I apologize for any confusion i may have caused, Happy Editing! Tiptoety 15:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

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Sorry I did miss that, if I saw it of course I would have waited. As a new page patroller, I tag articles that just come out so of course they would be tagged straight away, but I apologise and if you can get it referenced, feel free to remove all tags! Thanks! Phgao 16:41, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks. I try my best. :) — Someguy0830 (T | C) 01:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey. It looks like your reversion to re-insert an image overwrote a few copyedits. Screwing up on occasion is no big deal, but you might want to start being more careful if this happens often. --Kizor 12:09, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Anyway, thanks for helping with Firefly's image copyright issues. Those things are a *****. --Kizor 12:11, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

No worries - though I have noticed, and it only took three years, that backing down and walking away from the computer tends to be a better option than editing when enraged. (Things like heated policy arguments and AfDs in their final stages are naturally exceptions.) --Kizor 19:42, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[1] What exactly was the purpose of that edit? It removed much character history in particular references to Torchwood, under the claim of "OR related to different character"- how? Was the edit a mistake or something else? --OZOO (What?) 17:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Right, glad that's sorted. Sorry for accusing you of vandalism in the edit summary. --OZOO (What?) 17:33, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

See [2] Porcupine (prickle me! · contribs · status) 12:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey Sarek, what ever happened to the arbitration case about the Herbert Armstrong article? I can't find any trace of it in the open or closed case lists. Cadwallader 02:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi -- I just saw your Beth Eden Chapel article for a NRHP in Maine, and another also announced at the WP:NRHP page. I've been adding complex PDF file references to many NRHP/NHL articles for a while, and was encouraged to use a reference formatting that showed the PDF file size, that is "named" and hence easy to call repeatedly, and had some other advantage, i am not exactly sure what, but the referencing starts out differently. I edited the reference in Beth Eden Chapel to the Maine Architectural Trail to "improve" it in this way, giving it name "metrail" for Maine (ME) Trail. To cite the same reference again in the same article, you would invoke it by <ref name="metrail"/>. If you are embarking on creating an entry for every site in that Trail guide, please consider this variation of usage. Any which way, welcome to NRHP if you are new to it, and keep up the good work! Doncram 00:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, Doncram: I was a bit confused when I saw that edit. I'm not convinced the ref is better this way, but adding the size was definitely useful. I'm hoping I can expand those articles a bit with some more local research -- if nothing else, I can run my camera down to Brooklin. :-)--SarekOfVulcan 13:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Good, glad you understand. BTW, there was a typo, an omitted keystroke, within the reference, that i just fixed. As if to underscore getting a good reference model is not easy. It displays the filesize better now. By all means take a photo, those are worth 500 words or more....  :) doncram 20:02, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Another tip. On the E. B. White House article, i noticed the NRHP infobox was sparse. Perhaps you are not yet aware of the Elkman infobox generator tool for NRHP infoboxes? It is based on the NRIS system, and is very handy, though its output usually can use some editing. I used it to fill out some more fields in the infobox. doncram 20:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, that's a sweet one. :-) Thanks for the pointer!--SarekOfVulcan 20:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

You can't just think of a new article to delete what good is me making contributions if every Wikipedian wants to delete it.--Angel David 21:28, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd be down for it as long as it was south of Bangor area... Bangor's a 2hr drive for me, and going that far to meet only one or two people would be pointless imo.... if we had commitments from enough people however, I wouldnt have a problem traveling that far. Keep me informed as to who contacts you, and what your plans are.  ALKIVAR™ ☢ 00:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

L/A

I'd consiter going if it were in Lewiston/Auburn Chamberlian 03:29, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

You are hereby notified that further bullying on the Lake Ontario Waterkeeper topic discussion will NOT be tolerated. The list of articles I posted is objective evidence resulting from MY research and efforts at defending the topic. FYI, I consider your addition of a "Hide" attribute on the list a personal affront. KNOCK IT OFF please. Let ME present my case. This is a discussion page that relates to a topical and contentious subject. Show some respect, Garrett! StevenBlack 15:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Steve, I am showing you respect. You shouldn't have gotten that article deleted while you were working on it, and I've changed my !vote on the AfD to reflect that. If you make that AfD impossible to read, you're not going to have anyone in there long enough to vote keep.--SarekOfVulcan 15:30, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

If I read the related pages, Garrett, it's not a "vote". Why are you misrepresenting it as a "vote"? You had AMPLE OPPOIRTUNITY to consider my side of the issue, both in official and back-channels, and you changing your so-called "vote" after the piling-on had begun is ZERO comfort now. BACK OFF. GO AWAY. You're a bully, and I will NOT stand to be pushed around by you, or anybody else. Let me make my case, please. This is now all about the abuse of power, and I'm in no mood today to take any more crap from you. Am I clear?—Preceding unsigned comment added by StevenBlack (talk • contribs)

He referred to it as a "!vote", and as such he was saying the same thing that you are: AFD is not a vote. Hope that helps. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 16:12, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Why did you delete my comment? user:StevenBlack is being very uncivil and I see no reason not to call him on it. -Chunky Rice 19:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I didn't realize that he had been blocked for incivility already. I still don't think it was appropriate for you to remove my comment, which did not violate any guidelines or policies. You should have asked me to do it. -Chunky Rice 20:09, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I was actually going to let it alone, as you and BB had gotten in on the discussion, but thx for the note. MSJapan 02:18, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Didn't think it was fair to only warn the person I didn't know. :-)--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 02:44, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Sarek, MSJapan has decided to put his name up for Adminship, and asked me to nominate him. I have happily done so. Since you have worked with him for several years, especially on the various Freemasonry related articles, and have seen him at both his best and worst, you can probably add some insightful comments about him on the review page. See: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/MSJapan. Blueboar 12:26, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

That's great! Let me just review his contributions off the articles I've worked with him on, so I can be sure that I don't say any thing that's contradicted by the record. :-) I've had my name in for admin coaching for a while now, but haven't heard back yet: there's a bit of a backlog there.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 12:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Your new sign looks like "uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs" on my monitor. Or is that Vulcanese? -- But|seriously|folks  20:00, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I <3 BoingBoing. :-) http://www.boingboing.net/2007/07/01/flip-text-upsidedown.html

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It seemed like it, but if you check out the articles (both can be found online) you will likely agree that notability is not indicated (only in part because they are both Cleveland papers reporting on a Cleveland business). If you disagree, by all means create the article (in the past I've had no qualms about creating articles that someone else had already declined, though it's usually involved extra work on my part to show notability). Cheers! Precious Roy 19:09, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Sarek. Are you still looking for an admin coach? I have some time lately. Let me know, Fang Aili ^talk 18:18, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I just scanned back through your contribution history, and it looks like your style is similar enough to my own that this should work well. Thank you! :-)

Before we begin, though, can you review my latest kerfuffle over Lake Ontario Waterkeeper and User:StevenBlack, including this off-Wiki thread? If you think I did anything that will sink a nom, I'd rather give my spot to someone who has a chance.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look! First off, are you aware that your sig looks like a bunch of boxes? --Fang Aili ^talk 18:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Nope, I wasn't. On my machine, it looks like this:. It's a Unicode string: if more people complain about its appearance, I'll flip it back. I was just tickled by being able to have a weird sig that didn't add tons of markup. --uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Might be your browser fonts, Fang. I noticed that Chinese and Japanese characters appeared as boxes in my browser until I applied the language packs for the two languages. I see Sarek's sig as upside-down/backwards characters. Not saying it's in Chinese or Japanese...but the similarity of the description struck me. You couldn't have gotten a better Admin Coach, Sarek! She's the best! Dreadstar † 18:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Good to know, Dreadstar. :-) Thanks! I see you have class="Unicode" in your sig: will it help the appearance if I add it to mine?--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Aw, thanks Dreadstar! And I'll try fiddling with the fonts. --Fang Aili ^talk 18:49, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Huh. Ok. I don't really mind, but that is something people will complain about, rightly or not.

About the discussion at LOW, this was fairly uncivil. Otherwise I think you did a good job of keeping your cool when StevenBlack was pretty much acting like a bonehead. I don't know how the off-wiki link figures in. Does Steven run something called Fox Wiki? --Fang Aili ^talk 18:48, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes. I've since written to him acknowledging that removing my "unwelcome" content from his wiki was vandalism, and apologizing. He promptly unblocked me -- but I still don't have any plans to add back what I took off. If someone else wants to copy it from an offline cache or something, I won't complain. As far as my bullets comment goes, I had no intention of being uncivil -- I was trying to be humorous by invoking "Madness? This is Sparta!" Guess it didn't work. :-) --uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me. --Fang Aili ^talk 19:08, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Want to start a coaching page? --Fang Aili ^talk 19:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Done.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 20:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I just sent you an email. --Fang Aili ^talk 19:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Looks like it's still working its way through the greylisting. --uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 20:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I'm happy to see that the ERB estate has permitted such.

I acknowledge that no one person will necessarily act in full compliance with rules. Having said that, I didn't state earlier that I stated immediately upon the offer to "get me in the Masons" that I said I couldn't, that the employer responded emotionally, saying "But we're losing members" in a tone of abject despair, and continued to basically harass me on becoming a member for a full week thereafter until I got one of the other officers of the firm to talk to him. I do not take the full nature of the discussion as being necessarily regular for freemasonry in general, given that individual's widely acknowledged tendencies toward emotionalism and self-aggrandizement, but didn't think to question the possibility of the "offer" itself not being at least acceptable by the rules. John Carter 15:33, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

1. I don't know if it's something that involves permission... We'll have to wait a while to find out. :-)
2. Ok, definitely out of line. Thanks for the clarification.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 15:38, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi, regarding your closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Jones (author), I don't plan on making a big stink out of this, but since I see you are on admin coaching, let me say I find this kind of closure inappropriate. It's really still totally out of process - if you look at Wikipedia:Speedy keep, you'll find speedy keeps are really just for dealing with bad-faith nominations or other similar irregularities, and for the special case where everybody including the nominator agrees on keeping. None of this applied here. There really is no such thing as a legitimate speedy keep simply because of strong and early consensus. There would have been no harm in simply waiting out the process to run its course, so WP:IAR doesn't apply either. There was no good reason to ignore all rules, especially since an admin (me) had explicitly asked not to do that. Overruling such a request, in the absence of a pressing need, comes across as disrespectful.

And if you are going to cite WP:SNOW now, well, read it: SNOW is not an invitation for you to break proper process; it's an invitation for me to not dig in my heels now that you have (unfortunately) already broken it. Which is exactly what I'm going to do now, so don't worry. Still, just saying.

Fut.Perf. ☼ 00:04, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

crossposted from FP's talk

Concerns noted, WP:SNOW read in full. Thanks for the advice.

I thought that everyone except the nom had voted keep, and that the nom had all but withdrawn it because of the added sourcing. I had missed your "conditional delete" above. I apologize for that.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 01:20, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. Given your evidence that - despite appearances - it was not nonsense, I have undeleted the article, and then re-deleted it on the correct grounds of CSD A7: "Article about a person, group, company, or web content that does not indicate the importance of the subject." Warofdreams talk 04:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

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So what do I need to do? Thank you

Juda S. Engelmayer (talk) 21:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

You corrected it, thank you very much. Juda S. Engelmayer (talk) 22:01, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Two arguments:

1. Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_directory (i.e. policy)
2. The price range goes through two orders of magnitude and changes all the time. It's like quoting the current season or current temperature for a country. The price range (at this instant) is now 1.23 to 450.00? Why just link Amazon ? Why not every online bookseller ?

Megapixie (talk) 22:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

No, I don't *think* I got it from you, but I could be wrong. I think I saw upside-down Unicode written on another site a couple of months ago and decided it looked cool... though I can't remember where actually. Looks like we've got ourselves a meme :-) ǝɹʎℲxoɯ (contrib) 20:05, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Link from BoingBoing? Which one was that? ǝɹʎℲxoɯ (contrib) 20:38, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

*bangs head* And to think I did it by hand, searching through the Unicode characters in GNOME's character map!!! ǝɹʎℲxoɯ (contrib) 20:51, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to that site, I've created a userbox for folks like us ǝɹʎℲxoɯ (contrib) 21:42, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Recently you contibuted to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derrial Book. There is now an ongoing discussion stemming from that AfD here if you wish to contribute. [[Guest9999 15:07, 1 December 2007 (UTC)]]

No, good faith edit, what is your point. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 15:20, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Uh, belly laugh! :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 15:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Huh. I wrote the info about the founding of GGC, and I never realized that the date was after PHA's founding. Nice catch on the rewrite.

Is there a PHA headquarters comparable to the GGC's headquarters in DC, or is each state independent, like the Grand Lodge system?--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 01:24, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't really know, I just came across the article and dicided to clean it up. I really know nothing of the actual organization (aside what was in the article).→041744 13:15, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Can you conceive of any circumstances under which you would approve linking to the TIME Editors? (I mean, if not now, then when?)<br. />--Nbahn (talk) 05:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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One more thing: It is my belief that Jane Hamsher's[3] contribution deserves some sort of reference in the Joe Klein and Time Magazine articles because otherwise people will not easily see it. What are your thoughts on the matter? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nbahn (talk • contribs) 05:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hmmmmm.....I don't suppose that a blog entry by Glenn Greenwald would suffice? (I'm assuming that a blog entry by Hamsher herself doesn't suffice.)<br. />--Nbahn (talk) 06:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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Please don't reinstate the "exposes errors" phraseology. It is incumbent upon us to exercise care in regards to living people under WP:BLP. I've asked for administrator intervention on the BLP Noticeboard, and I think the more neutral wording should remain until there is further input from that source.--Samiharris (talk) 16:58, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

re your reply: thanks I think that is the best way to proceed.--Samiharris (talk) 19:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Seems the issue has been settled by reference to the Howard Kurtz article, so I am ok with your original language. Seems Klein did admit it! Now we have good independent sourcing saying so, and I think the article is better this way.--Samiharris (talk) 19:07, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Why is it that every article I've ever edited is on your "clean up" list. What AWB are you using? Your edits appear to be that of Wikistalking since they are all articles I have edited in the last month. CelticGreen (talk) 22:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Scratch that. It appears you are Wikistalking IrishLass, we just have worked on some of the same Days pages. CelticGreen (talk) 22:18, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

I took a look at these edits. While I don't think you are trying to distress anyone and nothing about your edits themselves looks disruptive, you should know that people can get kinda weirded out by being followed around like that, and I think it's pretty clear you've been doing that recently. I can give you suggestions for other ways to find articles to work on if you're interested. Mangojuice^talk 05:44, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

AN/I thread

FYI, this has been brought up here. --Onorem♠Dil 13:22, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Please go back and review every edit you made with AWB. Look at what you did here, scroll down to see all the bright red cite errors you made. I have corrected that page but you are responsible for the edits you make. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 02:56, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for understanding all that happened, the reactions, and for being a good person in agreeing to not use contributors lists in the way you used mine. I hope we can move on and work in harmony in the future. I considered your thought of using AWB but it's about to become 1984 at my work and big brother will be watching. I think I'll wait to see the damage caused before I apply, but I will consider applying if I can ever edit from home. IrishLass (talk) 17:22, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Sarek -- Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Adrian.walker Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.81.56 (talk) 15:56, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I had a feeling he'd appeared somewhere on Wikipedia before. At least we're giving him consistent advice. Acroterion _(talk) 03:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi,

I found two more notable sources about Aspose.

http://sqlblogcasts.com/blogs/drjohn/archive/2007/11/11/ssis-getting-data-from-excel-files-using-aspose-cells.aspx

http://www.codeproject.com/KB/dotnet/Word2Help.aspx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salman.sarfraz (talk • contribs) 08:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Blogs and self-published sources are not considered reliable sources for the purposes of Wikipedia.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 11:53, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi,

These are NOT self-published sources. That's why i am sharing with you and these are good sources. Check them out carefully. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salman.sarfraz (talk • contribs) 14:30, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Converting Microsoft Word files into HTML Help Files

By Jason Nadrowski

An Automated Method of Converting Microsoft Word files into HTML Help Files

Note: This is an unedited reader contribution

Hi,

Little update, the URL of CodeProject article i shared with you is changed to http://www.codeproject.com/KB/office/Word2Help.aspx . Moreover, Unedited Reader Contribution doesn't mean Self-Published Article. If you check this term explained here: http://www.codeproject.com/script/Articles/Unedited.aspx , you will see that all articles that are submitted to www.Codeproject.com through their submission wizard gets this status and with the passage of time, they move it to other specific categories based upon their popularity. Anyways, i just found it and shared with you as it is.

I want to share another notable source with you that i just found. Please check it too: http://www.builderau.com.au/program/soa/First-Look-Aspose-Excel/0,339024614,339131440,00.htm This website is owned by ZDNet and this page seems 2-3 years older. I hope, you will consider it too as a notable source. Salman.sarfraz (talk) 13:18, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I see the nominations, is a discussion coming soon?--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 12:31, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes. My apologies for typing slowly. : ) - jc37 12:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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Sure, takes some time :) If there is hope, no need to delete right away :) Also, if you find a little, then we could merge this as well so we wont lose any content you might find. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:01, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

If you look at the Quebec sites (the City of Montreal and the National Assembly) they both don't have the accents. So I think his name does not have one. --YUL89YYZ (talk) 19:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Please don not redirect from "Alexander James Adams" to "Heather Alexander". While he is taking over playing her songs, these 2 are separate personalities. Please create a stub-page instead that people can add to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.193.156.225 (talk) 14:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the speedy tag off. To be fair if I'd left it at the first edit it may have deserved the tag. JASpencer (talk)

No problem. If it had been speedied as an attack page, I might not have removed it, but db-empty was definitely wrong.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 21:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Question:

Can you please tell me what your source is for the following statement: "It was about this time that he was baptized along with his brother Herbert by the pastor of the Hinson Memorial Baptist Church in Portland, Oregon." It is not clear in Herbert Armstrong's autobiography who baptized him, so if you have a source for that statement, I would appreciate your citing it. Thanks.72.79.4.211 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 01:40, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I didn't write that line, so I don't know why you're asking me to cite it...--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 03:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

It was in the Dwight Armstrong article. Did you do that article? If you did and you didn't write that line then someone inserted it. I wonder where that person got the information from becasue there is no citation.72.79.55.175 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I could not help but notice from the page history of Tom Leykis that you are currently involved in a content dispute. I would like to humbly ask you to utilize the talk page and the various venues of dispute resolution available to us. Thanks, -MBK₀₀₄ 06:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

You alerting me that page is being up for deletion when you're the one who tagged it. That is just wrong.--Angel David (talk) 22:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

First thank you for your ties, would you please review it: Payam Jahanmani —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ariamehr (talk • contribs) 09:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Did you see it? I added some references. --Ariamehr

Yes, but those aren't really references, just external links.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 16:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for review it. I think his website is reference, most of information comes from his website. About other website, those are just ke confirmation and reference for information. I counted on them as reference and those are not in relevant of Mr. Jahanmani. Also I would lik e to know, I referenced most of information, why the page is still exist on list of pages that needs additional references?--Ariamehr —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ariamehr (talk • contribs) 09:24, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

The characters in your sig come represented as squares as the characters cannot be displayed in my local charset. I do not know if you see the same, just thought I'd make you aware. -- Alexf^{(Talk/Contribs)} 17:40, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't see it, but I am aware of the "problem". I'll just stick with my sig as it is for now: see Admin coaching above for what it should look like.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 17:50, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I see. It is a "flipped/reversed" string. Cute, but it just displays as a bunch of boxes. -- Alexf^{(Talk/Contribs)} 18:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Not if you use a real browser *gd&r*--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 19:25, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, I get the point. I could not see it at work with IE 6. I see it fine, as you intended, at home with FireFox 2.0, and also with IE 7. -- Alexf^{(Talk/Contribs)} 22:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Good to know IE7 handles it properly too -- I hadn't checked. Thanks!--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 22:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Why'd you remove my hovering picture of the 3 kings?--Angel David (talk) 01:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

He did it because it blocked your userlinks according to his ESYamakiri ^T_C § 01-29-2008 • 01:07:28

We don't hide or relegate spoiler warnings - Doomsday (Doctor Who) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) got promoted to FA and half of the lead is on about the ending of the episode. It's a moot point anyway - the episode's already aired in America. Additionally, the comment about the hologram types helps the image support the text in two ways instead of the current one. Will ^(talk) 19:47, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey there, I've taken the liberty of again removing the Speedy deletion template. Firstly, A1 refers to a lack of context to fails to identify the subject of the article. This is clearly not the case here. Secondly, schools are not SD'd. This is the general consensus. Questionable notability is for WP:AFD. Cheers. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 01:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind dude, I was confused when you said "content" instead of "context". It does fail A1. I have reinstated the SD tag. Cheers mate. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 02:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Had I seen more RFCs like yours I probably would not have said that "most RFC/U's came down to WP:IDONTLIKEHIM." To me what most RFCs lack is objective evidence in the form of diffs. There should be a list of applicable policies and guidelines, diffs to show the problem for each policy or guideline, diffs to show attempts to resolve the problem, and diffs to show that the attempts failed to solve the problem. (See my comments at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Whig_3#Outside_view_by_Sbowers3 and Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Strider12#Outside_view_by_Sbowers3.)

I did not actually read through the diffs, but at least the diffs are there, so outsiders can easily evaluate the evidence. Almost more important than the diffs showing a problem is the diffs showing attempts to resolve the problem and failing to resolve. You have a good set of diffs from the other two people who tried and failed.

My only quibble is stylistic. I would have listed the policy or guideline, then listed the appropriate diffs under each one. You had a lot of prose (with embedded diffs) at the beginning and then listed the policies/guidelines. I'd have started with one policy, then listed the diffs under it with relatively little prose, then the next policy and diffs, etc. But that's just a matter of personal style. The key thing is providing objective evidence in the form of diffs.

If all RFCs provided diffs then maybe there would be more involvement by outsiders perusing the evidence, instead of a lot of piling on by editors who had a previous involvement with either the accused or the accuser(s).

(Disclaimer: I am not exactly in the upper tier of experienced editors. I'm just a guy who tries to help out here and there. I don't take myself too seriously and I hope nobody else does.) Sbowers3 (talk) 23:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the unbiased evaluation. I like my style of writing, but I can lead with the Policy/Diffs section and follow up with the extended commentary. If I think of it next time I get so involved with a dispute that I'm willing to put that much effort into it. :-)--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 05:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

		The Fraternity/Sorority Barnstar
		For being apart of WikiProject Freemasonry! InvisibleDiplomat666 05:20, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

There is now a planning page to arrange a meetup in Providence. Please sign up if you are interested. --mikeu (talk) 12:11, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day, SarekOfVulcan, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

Idontknow610^TM 00:22, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Belated thanks then. -- Alexf⁴² 17:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I am trying a new anti vandal tool and I accidentally did something wrong and reverted wrong edits. If I didn't get all of them reverted back, I apologize. Sorry for any inconvenience. SwirlBoy39 19:00, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding. I'm doing my best. Right after you said something I got a message from Scarian scolding me about this. Again, I apologize. SwirlBoy39 19:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for keeping an open-mind and recognizing the improvements. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 00:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Your opinion, please? Nyttend (talk) 14:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

It is taking me a while to try and build up a history of this program for an encyclopedic type article by going thru the mailing list and building up the history. Please Help me by letting me know exactly what you oppose? This program is very unique in the genealogy world in that it helps and allows the genealogist to research and collect conflicting information instead of being restricted to single events.

Gioto (talk) 01:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello SarekOfVulcan/Archive 3!

You are cordially invited to participate in WikiProject Christianity The goal of WikiProject Christianity is to improve the quality and quantity of information about Christianity available on Wikipedia. WP:X as a group does not prefer any particular tradition or denominination of Christianity, but prefers that all Christian traditions are fairly and accurately represented.

You are receiving this invitation because you are a member of one of the related Christianity Projects and I thought that you might be interested in this project also - Tinucherian (talk) 06:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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I only just clicked the Discussion tab, and found your cookies from February. They still taste good. Buskahegian (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Sarek, Thanks for reminding me about the block status. I've altered the block to allow new account creation and left a message encouraging the user to continue to contribute. Gwernol 14:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Considering the speed with which you redid the links for MSAD 6, do you have some whizzy tool that can help ...'coz I also did another one like this - Morgan County Schools, Alabama.... if you're feeling particularly helpful :-) CultureDrone (talk) 14:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Or I could get off my **** and do it myself..... :-) CultureDrone (talk) 14:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Lol - no problem - it's been a long day and I was being lazy :-) CultureDrone (talk) 15:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I see you removed the prod on this article stating that "playing for Manchester United, right? Sounds pro to me". However, he has never actually played for them, and thus fails WP:ATHLETE. Taking this into consideration, would you mind re-instating the prod? Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 18:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I would mind. He will meet the requirements soon: I see no reason to delete the article while we wait.

If you want to propose a change to WP:ATHLETE that will exclude all athletes who have been signed but have not played their first game, be my guest.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 17:39, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Erm, that is how WP:ATHLETE is worded at the moment, i.e. "Competitors who have competed in a fully professional league". He hasn't competed in a fully professional league as he has never played a game. Also, "He will meet the requirements soon" is a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion on the talk page of the Freemasonry project regarding the above individual and his relationship to Freemasonry. Your input would be greatly appreciated. John Carter (talk) 02:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I have imaged the 1873 Atlas of Maine ( on a 17x14 inch 300 dpi scanner)and would like to put it in the Wikipedia Commons. However I do not have time to do it myself. If I give you a DVD of the atlas (and other out of copyright local history books of Maine that I have scanned), would you be interested in putting at least the 1873 Atlas of Maine online in the commons? Best Regards, DavidBlackwell DavidBlackwell (talk) 19:22, 20 June 2008 (UTC) I can mail it. I am often in the the Portland Area too. DavidBlackwell (talk) 03:24, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Sarek. Just thought I would let you know that I have taken the liberty of asking a question on your RfA. At the moment I am leaning towards support, but I think it will help me and others come to a proper decision if you could talk a little about the WP:CRYSTAL/WP:ATHLETE thing. I really don't think that it is a black and white issue, or at least it shouldn't be, but I'm interested to hear what you think about it. Thanks for your time, Rje (talk) 00:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

• I was actually talking about a disinterested party moving the discussion, not sure if you should've done the move yourself =). It's already done though, so I would leave it. –xenocidic (talk) 20:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
  • It's not changing the results of the vote, so I'm disinclined to worry about it. Besides, the same discussion is going on in at least two other RfAs at the moment...--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:02, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
    • P.S. -- thank you for getting the def of "disinterested" correct.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:02, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Aye, I just find it's best for a candidate to leave that to others. During my run, I avoided all other RFA discussions, didn't tally my own votes, etc. to each his own, I suppose? Best of luck. –xenocidic (talk) 20:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I look at it this way. If I can't be trusted to update the tally accurately, the votes should be going the other way. Having RfA !votes in my Recent Contributions gives people an easy way to see if I practice what I preach.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the corrections! Really, though it is a little too long. See if you can trim/combine a few sentences here and there to get it down. Looking forward to seeing Act II. Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

You recently filed a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves to move the page Bar Harbor (town), Maine to a different title - however your proposal is either incomplete or has been contested as being controversial. As a result, it has been moved to the incomplete and contested proposals section. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed.

Please make sure you have completed all three of the following:

1. Added {{move|NewName}} at the top of the talk page of the page you want moved, replacing "NewName" with the new name for the article. This creates the required template for you there.
2. Added {{subst:RMtalk|NewName|reason for move}} to the bottom of the talk page of the page you want to be moved, to automatically create a discussion section there.
3. Added {{subst:RMlink|PageName|NewName|reason for move}} to the top of today's section here.

If you need any further guidance, please leave a message at Wikipedia talk:Requested moves or contact me on my talk page. - JPG-GR (talk) 08:27, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I would strongly urge you not to comment and reply to every oppose "vote" in your RFA, even if you don't agree with it. It looks very bad and has often triggered a landslide of further opposition. Stifle (talk) 14:16, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

I understand your point, which is why I was selective about what I responded to.

1. No response
2. No response
3. No response, but moved objections to Kurt's Oppose to talk
4. "You haven't learned your lesson" -- "There are always lessons to be learned"
5. Only responded to clarify what Steven was referring to, except to dispute "careless trashing"
6. Commenter had problems with prod -- explained my reasoning at the time, and why I now saw what I missed then
7. Commenter had problems with sig, and with response to Alexf -- explained why I didn't see the need to change before, and clarified that I had known Alexf for a long time
8. No response
9. Commenter didn't think I answered #3 -- tried to clarify my response
10. No response
11. Commenter said I dismissed constructive criticism and had a prior history of not getting along with others - addressed "constructive criticism" only.

I didn't dispute any of the WP:CRYSTAL votes or Kurt's self-nom vote.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:42, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WjBscribe 21:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah, man! I knew you'd make it from the start! Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 21:32, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on the successful RfA! SchfiftyThree 21:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

It was, of course, logically never in doubt. Congrats anyway! John Carter (talk) 21:47, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Pile-on congrats!--InDeBiz1 (talk) 23:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

• Congrats! Take a look at {{admin dashboard}} - I'm told it's quite useful. –xenocidic (talk) 00:21, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Congrats. Keep up the good work. America69 (talk) 00:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on becoming an admin! --Chetblong (talk) 00:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Heh, I knew you'd do it, even with that quirky signature. ;-) Good luck abusing using the tools. --Mizu onna sango15/^Discuss 00:40, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Care to join the Star Trek Admin Cabal? Contact me or Acalamari for details. ;) Cheers mate, and good luck. · AndonicO ^Engage. 00:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! I still liked your other signature better, though.... J.delanoy^gabs_adds 01:01, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

You will do a decent job of wielding the mop, and I have every confidence you will be as good an administrator as Sarek himself was a diplomat. Good luck, and godspeed. --Sharkface^T/_C 01:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations (and bonus points for moving the message!) Neıl 龱 01:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations from me. :) Good luck. Acalamari 02:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations. 02:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

These humans appear to be highly emotional over your promotion. It was only logical. Live long and prosper SarekOfVulcan. --Admrb♉ltz (t • c • log) 02:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, well done. And you know the people who said adminship isn't a trophy? They're wrong. Here it is. Stifle (talk) 08:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

File:Admin Trophy.png

Well done, I'm glad to hear of your success! Happy editing! ;-) Lradrama 09:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations. Here are what pass for words of wisdom from the puppy:

Remember you will always protect the wrong version. Remember you must always follow the rules, except for when you ignore them. You will always pick the wrong one to do. (See #5) Remember to assume good faith and not bite. Remember that when you are applying these principles most diligently, you are probably dealing with a troll. Use the block ability sparingly. Enjoy the insults you receive when you do block. Remember when you make these errors, someone will be more than happy to point them out to you in dazzling clarity and descriptive terminology. and finally, Remember to contact me if you ever need assistance, and I will do what I am able. KillerChihuahua?!?

DISCLAIMER: This humor does not reflect the official humor of Wikipedia, the Wikimedia Foundation, or Jimbo Wales. All rights released under GFDL.

Live long and prosper! Bearian (talk) 14:54, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Congrats on making the grade! Ecoleetage (talk) 20:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Just FYI you can include a real signature like so:

~~<includeonly>~~</includeonly><noinclude>~~</noinclude>

No problem! Happy admininiming. –xenocidic (talk) 00:54, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I think you might very much want to specificy what the terms of any potential recall on your user page. The terms I've seen that seem to work best are (1) tell you if you acted improperly, so that you could effectively self-recall if warranted, and (2) ask parties wishing to recall you to file an RfC regarding the matter. Unfortunately, everybody will make enemies, and you want to ensure that it won't be just your enemies commenting on the matter, so an RfC seems to evidently many to be the best way to go. Just an idea, anyway. John Carter (talk) 01:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

As far as I can see, he's using Lar's criteria for now. –xenocidic (talk) 03:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. It sounds like you are as unsure about the sources for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MINT (2nd nomination) as I am! Could it not have been relisted to get more input? -- JediLofty ^User_Talk 15:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

When in doubt, keep. Besides, I just found a better ref that I'll be adding shortly...--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, SarekOfVulcan, for your support !vote at my RFA. I will be doing my best to make sure that your confidence has not been misplaced. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 18:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

As with most articles promoted so long ago, this article does not currently meet the Featured Article criteria. Since you have been a major contributor to the article, I would appreciate your help to bring this article up to the current standards. Please don't take this as an insult to the article, as it is well-written and there shouldn't be a lot of work necessary.

I have listed my concerns on the article's talk page. I would like to get this up to the current standards without going through a Featured Article review, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks, GaryColemanFan (talk) 20:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

You recently reverted this page. Thank you for your help, but you will notice in the talk page that the source is mistaken. There is a conflicting source by Campus Watch and others who say that it was overturned. Therefore, I went to the original source - right here. And the final paragraph says explicitly what the verdict says, that the verdict was not withheld. It is therefore the most accurate. Please do not remove this information again, if you will. With respect, Amoruso (talk) 21:49, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I removed the Campus watch source, because one might feel it's redundant I guess, but I kept the verdict one. It is the best possible source. Amoruso (talk) 22:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Btw, the version you kept is just factually wrong. It did not find that Gordon exaggerated and it did not withhold the verdict. There were different publications involved and the court only withheld the ruling regarding one of these publications - it too only be majority of 2:1, and because of other reasons - Gordon being a professor who used very harsh language himself in the court's opinion - did they award a small amount. Amoruso (talk) 22:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm all for talk page, but he doesn't use it. I think he's the problem here. I won't RV anymore, but provided he should engage in talk and dispute resolution and not just hold the belief that he's right contrary to evidence. Amoruso (talk) 16:40, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the correction. Amoruso (talk) 16:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

thanks a lot for your great help. Amoruso (talk) 17:11, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your info, but I really hope that you or someone else will at least now stop user:Erik Baas from stalking and provoking me all the time with HIS reverts. I thought: I don't deserve this anymore to be continuously tackled as fugitive from that 3 à 4 hunters from the Netherlands. I'll hope at last to find here a fulcrum ... Kind regards and truly yours: D.A. Borgdorff - MASc EE with 86.83.155.44 (talk) 14:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Just found out. Didn't know about it. I trust you'll use the tools properly. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. -- Alexf⁴² 18:37, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I had not seen the bite issue until you mentioned it now. I see why an inside joke can be construed that way. Ah. well... -- Alexf⁴² 18:54, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Just wondering: How come you deleted and then restored Ken Livingstone's article? Deamon138 (talk) 21:41, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. I hope it wasn't too serious. I had noticed a fair bit of vandalism on that article, someone inserting the same/similar paragraph in the middle of it, it wasn't anything related to that vandal was it? Deamon138 (talk) 21:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Bloody buggering hell that's a lot of socks! I don't blame you for taking the no humour route. People like that have way to much free time, there's always some imbecile around to ruin everyone's hard work on project's like this I guess. Ah well, keep up the hard work, and if I come across one of these myself, I'll make sure to add who it's a sockpuppet of in the edit summary. Deamon138 (talk) 18:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

First of all, I'm wondering where he got that many IPs. Even Grawp doesn't have that much. --haha169 (talk) 23:10, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, he did seem a little inexperienced from his edits. 72 hours is rather stringent. But if you want to reduce to 12 or 24, go ahead. Daniel Case (talk) 16:10, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm back from being blocked. Thanks SarekOfVulcan you should become a Bureucrat you are a very fair and reasonable person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MyNameIsKyle (talk • contribs) 20:51, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I do take your point, but at the same time it does look more than likely it's going to be deleted. If I had created such an article I'd prefer to know that it could, and is likely to be speedied, before I spent too much time working on it. As far as I'm aware there's no way of warning a user that a page is likely to be speedied without actually placing the tag on it. Two additons reasons I tagged this quickly are a) the page wasn't formatted properly and b) the firm was only formed this year. Dpmuk (talk) 21:06, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

No, I didn't know about Friendly, but I did know about the notability tag. However, IMO, that tag isn't fair warning for something that may be speedied, possibly in less than a couple of hours (there's plenty of admins out there that wouldn't be as lenient as you - that's not having a go, just my experience. I have saved an article myself on it's second creation that I thought had been speeided too quickly the first time and was tagged for being speedied again). In my mind "If notability cannot be established, the article is more likely to be considered for redirection, merge or ultimately deletion" doesn't even hint at the speedy process, at least the speedy tag makes it clear. Is there merit in creating a "warning this article could be speedied tag" for when an article is currently not up to scracth but not beyond saving? I'd no idea where to raise such an idea or where to look to see if it's been raised before. Dpmuk (talk) 21:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Raised at Village Pump, here. We'll see what happens. Dpmuk (talk) 21:40, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I have noticed you removed the prod on Doug Lascody, stating the reason "Played in pro game". Unfortunately, you did not add any references to this claim, nor improve the article in any way. Please do so! If you can find a reference to his appearance in a professional game, please add it to the page. If not, I will be forced to AfD the article as there will no evidence to support the claim. Help us to improve Wikipedia. Thanks! GauchoDude (talk) 21:44, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

• The reserve leagues do not confer notability. If you believe otherwise, please voice your opinions on this already open AfD about the same topic. GauchoDude (talk) 01:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Can you please explain how this script works? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 07:33, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, what I cannot understand what is the mechanism of the script. This srript does not work in many other wikis which use the same media wiki software. As far as I looked at it, it uses several other templetes within its script. I want to know something about the structure of the script. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 13:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Please re-look at the AfD. Also, I can't tell if you did a search (web/books/scholar) before you !voted, but a trivial search should have turned up many sources that (I think) trivially show notability. Hobit (talk) 18:01, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

No worries. I just deleted it again as an empty article. ... discospinster _talk 18:21, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

As you are a nice Wikipedian, I just wanted to wish you a happy Independence Day! And if you are not an American, then have a happy day and a wonderful weekend anyway!  :) Your friend and colleague, --Happy Independence Day! Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 01:15, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting out [[User:68.248.74.14 for me. that guy was a bit of a vandal, isee that now. Smith Jones (talk) 05:15, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Ditto for reverting my userpage - judging by the number of edits like that, they'd obviously had a busy night :-) CultureDrone (talk) 09:09, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

ah, us FNGs - so willing to give people second chances. you may find this one amusing: User talk:Nickofthejones (see his contribs after I lifted his block). let's hope your 2nd chancer actually pulls through. –xenocidic (talk) 04:37, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm just going to stop editing for a while. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MyNameIsKyle (talk • contribs) 16:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

While I would like to assume you were only trying to help, I must ask you to please avoid tampering with my talk page in the future. I am a fully grown adult and do not need my talk page censored or bowdlerised in any way. Furthermore, that IP could have been a close friend or relative of mine; you had no way of knowing that his message that "he sucked cambridge's balls last night" was indeed "vandalism" or posted with any malicious intent. I myself rather liked it. JeanLatore (talk) 16:45, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I saw that too. But thank you for understanding. Have a good independence day weekend, if you care about that sort of thing (I am not from the USA although I live here) JeanLatore (talk) 16:50, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

hello Sarek,

may you live long and prosper :)

I added notes to the sheet music talk page as you described regarding Sheet Music Archive on the sheet music page.

pianomanusa —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pianomanusa (talk • contribs) 15:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

So them Sarek, can something be done about the continual reverting? Even if SMA is theoretically allowed (which I don't believe it is), it seems to me it ALSO fails in the simple fact we're not supposed to have an abundances of ELs in general, and since there are already a number of 100% free archives on the list, SMA isn't even 'needed' as such. Again, I really don't want a WP:3RR block over this, but I can't in good faith allow these two to keep pushing what I assume is their site that they are making money from. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 17:06, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Gafurov, Said. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. RMHED (talk) 21:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

This wikipage was recommended for clean instead of deletion. However, I fail to see why it was not deleted. There is unsourced information, naming names. It suffers from a lack of neutrality and contains several opinions not facts. These opinions are neither supported nor sourced. How can I recommend it for deletion.--Trish PUMA (talk) 22:44, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Was there a particular reason you moved this page, even though there was a discussion taking place about the title? seresin ( ¡? ) 23:35, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Heya. I blocked User:Wassaup indef even though you mentioned he hadn't edited since the last warning; the editor clearly wasn't here to help Wiki and the chances of the next edit being constructive were virtually nil. Didn't really mean to go over your head on that one, but replacing pages with "nigger bitch bitch whatever" pretty much seals the fate. Tan | 39 05:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, just re: the speedy keep of Edline, I have gone ahead and removed the AFD notice from the article and added {{oldafdfull}} to the talkpage. In the HTML comments for the AFD notice, it says that the oldafdfull template is for admin use only [4], I just thought you had forgot to do it so I hope that is alright. Thanks ~ Ameliorate _{U T C} @ 10:29, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi SarekOfVulcan,

I am trying to add a definition of "Credit Research Foundation," that keeps getting instantly deleted. I am a staff member of the organization. I must admit, I am totally confused by the myriad of rules, regulations and definitions that rival the most arcane and confounding legal jargon I ever encountered. Anyway, I've put up a short, banal, insipid definition of Credit Research Foundation that hopefully won't even offend a Wikipedia Administrator's grandmother. I put it in my "sandbox" area.

Please, can you tell me how I could get that moved into an article or whatever it is referred to on "Credit Research Foundation?" Any help you could give me would be deeply appreciated!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crfonline (talk • contribs) 14:59, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

As the officers of the NON-PROFIT, who are involved in making the policies of the organization, as well as have access to all of the founding documents, such as the articles of incorporation, should constitute verifiable information. Also, a related organization, the National Association of Credit Managers (SIC) - it should be Management - has a description article.

Please, what does it take to get a very simple, generic description of the Credit Research Foundation into Wikipedia? I thought the concept existed to provide the public free access to information on a hosts of topics, organizations, people, etc. That's all we're trying to do in a non-promotional way.

Thank you.

Tom Diana

Communications Manager

Credit Research Foundation

tomd@crfonline.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crfonline (talk • contribs) 12:35, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I saw the thread on ANI and your post on User talk:Ryttaren. Was this appropriate for me to close? J.delanoy^gabs_adds 15:28, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Sure; looks like Nancy speedied it and forgot/declined to close the AfD. You just mopped up, good eye. Maybe put a note about that in the closing statement if you're worried about it. Tan | 39 15:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

As Tan said, as the article was already gone, closing the AfD was fine. Thanks!--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Congrats on your RfA. I notice that you have been removing backlinks to articles that you have deleted. That's great, but you will sometimes want to delete the entry entirely. For example, removing the back link and leaving this entry wasn't enough. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Re your message: No problem. When I delete attack articles, I check the editor's other contributions to see if anything else needs to be reverted or deleted. It is pretty common for an editor who creates attack articles to vandalize other articles or create another attack article, especially if they have the childish "gay" insult in the attack article. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

It was a tough one to close, admittedly. Both sides had good points. He hasn't played professionally, but he was captain of the under-20 team. I might do a procedural drv if there's other complaints, but right now it looks like a very slight consensus for deletion only. I'll sleep on it though. Wizardman 20:39, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Who died and made you god? Your username is copyright. I don't have to prove anything. You can get off your arse and call the company and speak to me. I will read this email to you if that is what it takes, but I will keep posting and I will indeed until my posts stay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Huntersj78 (talk • contribs) 03:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

FYI I have blocked this user indefinitely for making legal threats (at my talk page). Stifle (talk) 19:47, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Hihi, just wondering why you declined the speedy as a hoax and prodded as NFT? I would have thought that due to the language about world championships and the like that it would be hoaxable instead. LegoTech·(t)·(c) 19:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

(e/c with below) :true, but G3 says "This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion as pure vandalism. This includes blatant and obvious misinformation, and redirects created during cleanup of page move vandalism. See CSD G3." which covers hoaxes I thought? Hey, it's all a learning experience here for me...A real lesson in how words can be defined differently by different people. :) LegoTech·(t)·(c) 19:53, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, the wording for G3 used to specifically include the words "patent hoaxes", or similar... _GB^T/C 19:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Was passing by (in the conversation above) here when I saw your comment. Obvious misinformation (clear hoaxes, in my book) fall very neatly under G3... ;-) _GB^T/C 19:51, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

more _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 00:41, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Could you maybe help out on these page with displaying references in is own section; tidy it up a bit Kelvin Martinez (talk) 21:56, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Honorific titles in popular music

I deleted an earlier version of this article this morning that was lifted almost entirely from the Spectator article. The contributor was DaveBulge (talk · contribs), and I gave him some advice on this kind of article. It's an awfully ambitious project to create an appropriately sourced (i.e., ironclad) article of this kind as your very first article, and I don't think the editor understands what is expected in such circumstances. Acroterion _(talk) 15:54, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm simply trying to update players' stats; I'm not "testing" or "intentionally introducing incorrect information". Thank you.69.47.186.220 (talk) 17:29, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I appreciate it. 69.47.186.220 (talk) 17:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for everything. I suppose that there are so many vandals these days on Wikipedia, everything has to be looked at. 69.47.186.220 (talk) 17:52, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

How do you block admins. Because User:A Man In Black is treating Wikipedia like his personal plaything and should be blocked. There has been no real discussion about this, but a lot of editors think it should be kept.Fairfieldfencer FFF 17:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

There was a discussion at WikiProject Video games and a few editors were in favor of Keeping the article, but we never actually discussed what to do with that specific article.Fairfieldfencer FFF 17:52, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Archive 46#Sonic the Hedgehog Cruft and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Archive 47#Sonic the Hedgehog Cruft may be illuminating. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 17:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Since you have a mop and keys now, feel like addressing Aaxxll's repeated removal of all citations, references, and footnotes from the Hawayo Takata article? Thanks! - House of Scandal (talk) 03:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for uploading Image:AdricTeganNyssaFive.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 05:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the comments about this article. As you have seen, I am in the process of expanding this article to meet the notability guidelines. I am currently editing it, and I have just added some of the references you mention. I realise I should have probably removed the prod noticed after I finished, but I had intended dong it yesterday, and forgot so I was panicking to get the article improved before it got deleted, as the prod was overdue. Whoops!!

I hope you can see what I have now done. I am going to keep expanding the article, hence I have placed the {{underconstruction}} tag at the top of the page. Arriva436^talk 17:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I have finished improving the article for now, but please feel free to mention any improvements I could make. Arriva436^talk 18:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

to late to dispute it, it stood for more then 5 days so therfor it was already set up--Jakezing (talk) 21:46, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps a short block of single purpose Special:Contributions/222.212.234.175 might help. Kind regards Ryttaren (talk) 02:16, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I didn't think his contributions were necessarily inaccurate, but they were disruptive, and since he had been previously blocked and did not change his habits, I felt his contributions were not having a positive impact on Wikipedia. ... discospinster _talk 23:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Please do me a favor and don't write on my talk page again. Downzero (talk) 00:03, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Can you take another look at the contribs? There was only one recent vandal edit, and there's been a lot of constructive editing over the past few days.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 12:44, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I thought the same thing - there are a lot of helpful edits. However, the IP has been blocked several times for vandalism so I am thinking that a week should put that vandal off, and hopefully whoever is being constructive (I am assuming it is someone else from the same IP) will create an account which I didn't block. I shall add a note saying that an account can be created to the page anyway, thanks for flagging it up. —Sean Whitton / 12:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable. Thanks!--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 12:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Please don't remove the tag before adding a source. We don't keep an image because you think it doesn't need a source ;). Thank you for understanding.--OsamaK 15:17, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I do not think these deletions will be accepted, so I deprodded them. Please discuss how to handle them at the appropriate workgroup first.I can see various solutions, including mergesand redirects, but not deletions. There is nothing wrong with permastubs. DGG (talk) 01:19, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

So now that my article is finished...how do I make it liveARosend (talk) 19:19, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Bigtothebone is causing disruptive edits again on Bob Herbert. He has also been disruptive on another article. As you have also reverted a few of his edits on the page I was wondering if you had an idea of what steps to take as this edit war seems to be continuing constantly. Regards, NcSchu_(Talk) 01:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. I noticed you deleted J.R. Exclusive. I was the one who nominated it for speedy deletion, but it was declined by User:SarekOfVulcan. He subsequently made some improvements to the article. Just thought I'd let you know in case it was a mistake, rather than a purposeful disagreement with his decision. Cheers.... justinfr (talk) 14:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC) By the way, thanks for taking care of all that Chiacig crap. justinfr (talk) 14:39, 14 August 2008 (UTC) Thanks, Justin, I was just coming over to say that. :-) None of the improvements I made involved finding sourcing to establish notability, though, so I'm not going to dispute it.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:59, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

J.R. is not just a mixtape producer. "Beat Without Bass" didnt make Freekey Zekey's (From Diplomat/Asylum Records) because of clearing the rights from Lil Wayne to be on the track. Since it was not on the album it was put on the mixtape instead. If you type in "Beat Without Bass" on Google you will get 12.5 million listing. "Beat Without Bass was the number 2 played song on satellite radio for 2 months in a row in 2007. If you need more notability I have a interview with a Canadian magazine called Champ Magazine and it is on youtube (5:33 sec snippet interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvjNjZaczAw). Champ Magazine also has a website. He was the producer of the month for the magazine sometime in the fall of 2007.

Whats wrong with my posting underneath? I have sources. J.R. had a interview by a major Canadian Magazine Champ Magazine. He produced songs for artist's under Universal records subsidiaries:

J.R. Exclusive (born Steven Welch Jr. on June 30, 1988) is an American record producer who works in Dayton, Ohio. He is most famous for the 2007 mixtape summer hit “Beat Without Bass” by Freekey Zekey featuring Lil Wayne and Jha Jha. This song was suppose to On Freekey Zekey's "Book of Ezekiel" album under Diplomat Records/Asylum but Lil Wayne's verse did not get cleared with Universal Records. He is also credited for producing six of the tracks for Jungle Record Inc. new artist Sosá’s Trap Happy album. The album’s was due to drop on January 29, 2008. The album got pushed back to a later release date. J.R. Exclusive also produced “Hemi” by Sosá featuring Lil Boosie that is featured on Sosá’s Trap Happy Album.

Life and Career

J.R. Exclusive was born in Dayton, Ohio, where he lived with both of his parents and his two sisters. His father, Steven Welch Sr. was an entrepreneur and started his own janitorial service. His mother, Bobbie Welch worked at Lexis Nexis. Growing up J.R. Exclusive played basketball everyday. He had dreams and inspirations to be the next Michael Jordan. He played basketball all the way up to his sophomore year in high school. J.R. Exclusive started rapping at the age of 12 as a hobby. Two years later, he found his passion for music. He started of producing music on Cakewalk. A few months later, he jumped to Fruity Loops. When J.R. Exclusive turned 18 years old, he was introduced to Nuendo from a friend. J.R. Exclusive graduated from Northmont High School in 2006. Northmont is the alma mater to Al Shearer also know as Hits From The Streetz. In fall of 2006, J.R. Exclusive attended Wright State University in Fairborn, Ohio. While he was in college, he rarely went to class. He stayed in his dorm room and made music all day long. Students called J.R. Exclusive an “Urban Legend” because he never came out of his room. During winter break, while at home, J.R. Exclusive was making the mixtape hit “Beat Without Bass”. While at Wright State University J.R. Exclusive was introduced to Chill Will by Sosá. Chill Will is the personal assistant of Jim Jones the original member of The Diplomats, also known as Dipset. In early 2007, Chill Will introduced J.R. to Freekey Zekey in Indianapolis after the Street Dreams Tour. At the end of the spring, quarter at Wright State University, J.R. knew that school was not his forte. He passed all his classes, with all C’s and with no effort. He loved producing music so much that he dropped out of college in 2007. J.R.'s close childhood friend KJ began to help J.R. get his name out a little more. KJ could not do too much, because he was in college. After KJ finished his year in school, J.R. wanted KJ to become his manager. J.R. and KJ began to work with each other. KJ is also known as KJ The CEO.

Production Style

J.R. Exclusive has a style of music that hasn't been heard before. His music style is experimental, urban techno, dance, hip-hop, and pop combined to make J.R. Exclusive. He uses a Triton TR Series keyboard, a custom built pc, Nuendo, VSTs, and KRK Rokit 5 Monitors. As of July of 2008 the starting pricing for a J.R. Exclusive beat is $2,500 for a artist on a indie label and $10,500 for artist on major labels.

Discography

Freekey Zekey – Blame It On the Henny (2008)^[1]

14. Beat Without Bass (featuring Lil Wayne and Jha Jha)

19. Hustler of the Year (featuring Tito Green)

Sosá – Trap Happy^[2]

Intro

Bad Yellow Bitch

Hemi (featuring Lil Boosie)^[3]

Rockstar

Bring Back the Money

I Can Give You Life

J.R. Writer^[4]

Two unknown tracks

References

1. "Blame It On the Henny." Wikipedia. 7 Mar. 2008. 15 Aug. 2008 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/blame_it_on_the_henny>.

2. On Target Graphics. "The Official Sosá Fan Club." Untitled Document. 2007. July-Aug. 2008 <http://www.junglerecordsint.com/>.

3. Amagindat.com. "Fast Lyfe Entertainment." Fast Lyfe Entertainment. 2008. 15 Aug. 2008 <http://www.fastlyfeent.com/wp/?cat=4>.

4. "The Diplomats." Wikipedia. 14 Aug. 2008. 15 Aug. 2008 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/j.r._writer>.

--Dat937boi (talk) 16:19, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I noticed you blocked indef this IP address, well, aren't you not supposed to block indef an IP address except if it is a proxy?. This of course is a proxy. Just came by to teell you bout' that. Happy editing! Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for your help with the article Order of the Collar of Saint Agatha. I tried to develop the article by adding many scholarly references, both literary and from the Internet, but as I had guessed this was all rejected by Yopie. I have spent many hours researching this, finding both old documents and official archives relevant to the history. I retained all of Yopie's criticism, followed a structure for the article proposed by an Admin on 30 May, and simply tried to widen the perspective by adding what seems to be highly relevant references. Please check my version of the article. I tried to add everything relevant both for and against their credibility, but Yopie rejects everything that doesn't fit his own POV. Surely Yopie can't have monopoly on the views nor which facts should be presented? I don't wish to engage in an edit war as there seems to have been earlier. Anything you can do to help will be much appreciated.StevenB (talk) 16:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)